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>FNAF

>game

> game journos like games they can't lose

Welcome to /v/, lurk 2 years before posting

the answer is always jews

There's a conspiracy theory that certain indie authors actually pay to advertise their work. Undertale is the greatest example of it.

because you keep making shit threads

Since when do journos hate LISA? They seem indifferent about it at most.

They hate LISA? I only know that RPS shat on the game because they thought the controls were too complicated.

>>13814749

I think Undertale is simply popular due to sheer weaponized tumblr/homestuck autism and journos bandwagoned it. I can imagine it being true about NITW though.

>>13814770

>>13814781

I remember exactly one article that complained about the tutorial, otherwise the game didn't really get any coverage.

>>13814749

I strongly doubt it. Undertale was pretty much a perfect mix of everything pretentious faggots love. There was no way it wasn't going to get stupidly popular, with or without advertising. The only "evidence" for it was that one "I work for an astroturf company and Toby Fox paid us to advertise his game please believe me" post on halfchan.

>>13814791

This guy did a video on it, sort off.

>>13814806

Super Bunnyhop isn't really a journoblogger or part of the industry clique though, right? I thought that was the point of the thread.

>>13814812

That post was bullshit though. I kept an eye on Undertale's development and its explosion in popularity, there wasn't anything particularly weird going on. It had an uneventful launch but gradually became more popular once people caught wind of it, which you can easily explain by tumblr latching onto the hot new quirky thing, like they did with OFF. Additionally, Toby Fox was involved with Homestuck prior to it, so he was already somewhat established in those circles. Similar thing happened to LISA once the game went on sale, but on a smaller scale. You can probably draw a similar parallel to other indieshit games.

Blame the audience and their low standards, not some bogus conspiracy.

>>13814749

>Undertale is the greatest example of it.

Didn’t Toby fox got butt hurt that his game got popular and people want a sequel?

>>13814873

>did a numale use his perpetual victim complex to shift attention towards himself

Probably.

>WOW most people do XY!

>no proof of people doing XY

get the fuck out with your shit threads

>>13814907

>commie

>tax is theft

H-how does he reconcile the two though?

>>13814907

I don’t hear why they hate Scott cawthan work yet love nitw

>>13814918

A libertarian communist?

>>13814918

Why don't you ask him to find out?

https://twitter.com/bombsfall

>>13814861

He's got a journalist degree and his head shoved far up into Ubisoft's taint so yeah I think hes a journalist

>>13814873

>Doesn't it displease him that his game raked in tens of millions of dollars?

>>13814873

He said he's sorry about his awful fans, or something. But it's not like he didn't attract them in the first place.

>>13814949

Didn't know that.

>>13814921

Because Scott Cawthon is a white male christian who as far as I know only ever used his games to preach christianity instead of any of the beliefs held by games journalists. He also respectably avoids using twitter, only having a twitter account to let people know any other twitter account under his name is fake.

Also NITW is a game about being a worse than useless neet while FNAF is a game (with actual gameplay) about being a man earning a living.

>>13814861

Why then Undertale is coming to PS4? And was advertised on playstation con as the most amazing thing ever?

I smell something fishy. Toby Fox is not what you think he is.

>>13815019

>a successful game is being ported to another platform

Stop the fucking presses.

>>13815019

Because the game was successful? This is not rocket science.

>>13815030

>>a successful game

>game

i wouldn't consider it a game

>>13815019

It came out on PS4 because the new version of Game Maker can natively output PS4 games.

>>13815019

Call it now. Undertale will be on the switch in less than a year.

>>13814793

I can't speak for Undertale specifically as I haven't followed it that closely, but you can see it all the time where SJWs will coordinate to get rid of something and replace it with their kosher version. Like how they got some hentai card game removed from kickstarter, which was replaced with another one but that one was okay because it was made by an SJW.

You can also see this shit with how much they despised the P5 translation so much even an entire website was made just to show off some menial semantic errors. Mind you, this is made by the very same people who turned a complete blind eye to Fire Emblem removing entire paragraphs of dialogue and replacing it with "rawr" and "*wags tail*". Fire Emblem got away with it simply because they had their claws in it. It's like a protection racket, and such a thing can be observed throughout all industries, not just videogames, and it's simply naive to think otherwise.

>>13815069

It will be once Game Maker can output games to Switch, like I said here. >>13815057

The PS4 port got announced a month after the feature was added to GM:S.

>>13815069

Naturally. Nintendo wants to turn kids gay, Undertale wants to turn kids gay. It makes perfect sense.

>>13815091

Exactly, Undertale is jewified mix of succesful titles that were once niche on the internet and spawned fandoms. Particularly Cave Story, Earthbound and Yume Nikki.

>>13815100

>>13815094

Speaking of gays. Surprised game journalists haven’t attack Scott cawthan for not having gay or trans character in FNAF. Mind you cuphead got attacked for racist inspirations

>>13815124

Die

>>13815131

>Would that be pedophilia?

Would it?

>>13815131

Is that Henry

>>13814731

>NITW

I didn't really see journos caring that much about the game, it was mostly furfags and the sjw circlejerk that liked that shit

>Layers of fear

Its yet another "deep" walking simulator about an artist struggle and besides FNAF has actual gameplay and you can lose journos hate that

>Undertale

Same as NITW furfags, sjws and "games are art" fags even when the game was just painful mediocre

>>13815055

Give me one reason it's not a game.

>>13815124

Delete this

>>13815055

>I don't like it therefore it isn't a game

>>13815264

No it's not. He was the most famous LPee for a good while before it. And most people associate fnaf with that one Irish cunt.

>>13815264

>FNAF is what made Pewdiepie

No, he got populat before that thanks to early facecam shit like Amnesia and Happy Wheels.

>>13815069

It will be compatible with the Ness and/or Lucas Amiibos. Bank on it.

>>13815264

>3746 sexual acts

>still wears white

>>13815286

>that spoiler

I'm writing your name on my Dead Notepad as we speak

Maybe because FNAF has a modicum of difficulty?

>>13815303

How? You just slam the door in their face until you win.

>>13815131

>a blowjob is a blowjob, you can't say its only half

>>13815264

Pewdiepie actually hated FNAF and only played it because his fans kept insisting he did, he was already stupidly popular at that point.

>>13814745

>Why do game journalists hate FNAF

Same reason all non-furfags hate it. They don't want to be associated with furshit.

>>13815264

>FNaF is what made Markiplier popular

Fixed that for you.

>>13815069

Do you think Amiibos grow on trees, goy?

>>13814731

Because they are violent

And violence is patriarchy

>>13815382

>journalists

>not associating with furfags

>>13814731

>FNAF

The author is a staunch Christian and doesn't hate himself. This sends the Jew recoiling into a hissing fit and they try to tear it down.

>>13814746

sho sho tranny

>>13814731

>Why do game journalists hate FNAF and LISA yet love night in the woods, layers of fear and Undertale

Because they like games that they can feel are "deep" or "rich with lore". They want something they can sleepwalk through, then write an article about how it's the hottest thing. They want to sound thoughtful without actually putting thought or effort into vidya.

>>13816229

This. The demo came out on its own before kikestarter even came up. The threads were fairly comfy back then too. No caner yet aside from the usual furfags wanting to fuck the tutorial cow.

>>13815264

oh god muh dick

>>13814861

Super Bunnyhop was part of the secret GameJournosPro list.

>>13815117

Don't get me wrong, but I don't think there's any reasonable way they could get away with doing that and not looking like absolute retards. Even in their own minds. They can attack him for being a Christian or his political opinions, but that would take actual research to find and we know how much research game journos do, or they could just completely ignore him and pretend he goes away because he isn't part of their clique or willing to suck their dicks or pay them off.

They attacked TenNapel for being Christian and anti-LGBT, but only after he made a public showing of his opinion. They attacked some games that could be considered anti-LGBT or filled with microaggressions, but a lot of the really heavy-handed shit went unnoticed.

As far as Cuphead and the accusations of racism are concerned, remember that journos were praising the game for not being racist until someone took the effort to go through the mental gymnastics to call it racist BECAUSE it tries not to be racist. Someone had to take the first step to equate an active attempt to avoid racist stereotypes by removing any and all references to race except the coin guy on Isle 1 saying "I bet the (((Devil))) owns the banks, too!" and replacing all characters with anthropomorphized items and mythical beings with WHITEWASHING because they're removing all minorities and therefore pretending that those people of color and oppressed minority groups do not exist/do not matter.

I mean, come on. How long did it take these fucks to realize that the 'developer' who received death threats and posted about it on Twitter didn't actually work for EA? I'm more surprised that it was an actual Kotaku journalist who discovered it and wrote an article detailing their findings, rather than some anon.

The modern journalist is fucking lazy. They won't lift a finger to do anything on their own or research shit to dig deeper into the real issue; they'll just wait for someone else to do it for them and sperg out over the results, regardless of how inaccurate the bullshit is. These people just look for outrage to bait clicks. Don't expect anything special.

Though, you could probably foment some fake outrage by baiting some asshat journalist into writing an article about Scott Cawthon being a Christian, and therefore he hates fags and trannies and gay marriage because he fucking has to, right? It would be hilarious to see all the FNAF kiddies autistically screeching at the journos and running their credibility through the mud even harder.

>>13815019

you don't understand how fucking mad i was when i saw this announced live

>>13816592

I really don't think Scott and the FNAF series is quite the banner to rally behind it used to be. Most kids seemed to stop giving a shit about it.

>>13816296

>that one webm from a show where a bunch of mathematicians guesstimate how quickly they could jack off an entire audience

>>13814806

I fucking hate Earthbound, it's a shit game, and anyone who likes it deserves to be hanged.

>>13814731

>Why do game journalists hate FNAF and LISA…

Since when do game journalists hate LISA?

Fucking everybody praises it to Hell and back

Better question, why does /v/ like LISA but hate shit like Undertail?

Oh, this isn't a thread about questions we should have asked a few years ago?

>>13819901

LISA wasn't shilled relentlessly, doesn't have a cancerous fanbase full of furfaggotry, tumblristas, and isn't treated like the second coming of christ in vidya form. LISA doesn't have a secondary fanbase that hasn't even touched the game but circlejerks the various memes and fan-related content. The fact that LISA's developer isn't related to yet another huge tumor called Homestuck helps.

>>13816201

I don't even want to click the video.

i find it funny how no one has realized that the op is a (1) and done

its always like this with these "muh meme game" template threads

>>13819898

Lisa touches on the fact that people are moral due to the conditions around them or something, which is pretty deep only when you consider the shit around it and what it did.

Undertale was fake, entirely. It's not even about morality, it's about glurge. You have a character that turns out to be evil, and then in the literal last minute you make him tragic, pulling a 180 emotional shock that sticks with kids, while piling on the the fact that you can't save him despite the fact that you clearly can, you're just never given the option for the sake of tragedy. It presents choice and takes it away from you if it can't preserve the overall tone, which is tragedy.

It's ultimately a bad example of a tragedy, because this isn't a play or tv show, when player choice is involved and you can't choose to do the obvious thing that ANYONE would think of when your character is a fucking avatar of yourself it's a fucking retarded plothole.

LISA on the other hand never GAVE you a ending changing choice when it came to the ending, Brad's forced to overdose and go nuts because of Buzzo's vendetta, and he's never in a position to choose, only chase. It's good writing despite lacking branches because it gives good reason for that behavior, and Brad himself is a character with an established personality and vice that defines the guy. The whole story is less about choice and more about how fucked up he is, and the people around him.

What makes LISA better then Undertale despite the fact that they both intentionally jerk with your feelings and you don't really have a choice in the matter is that LISA is honest and shows that you never had a choice, and Undertale prevents you from making one and dangles it in front of your face to hurt you. Sure you have multiple endings in Undertale, but no one is ever saved, people who caused atrocities go unpunished, etc etc.

In both games, you can't save the villain or really do anything good. But in LISA, it doesn't even give you the illusion of choice. Undertale is just dishonest and fake. And if I had a choice of hanging with a dick or some liar, I'd pick hanging with the dick, because at least he's honest.

hell, even the fangames are way better, Pointless and Hopeful are pretty fucking great and only improve on the mechanics and art, despite being more simple.

Pointless is like a David Lynch movie, but balances it out by having the protagonists being pretty sane and nice all things considered.

Why do people keep comparing LISA to Undertale? They are nothing alike.

>>13820781

exactly.

>>13820686

ok ok, ill play pointless

geez

> >13820686

LISA technically gives you some choices, for example if and when you give the 2BFs the dynamite determines if and when they destroy that town, as well as if you give terry up or not and more, but none of them have any real impact on the story.

It does give you the illusion of choice with staying clean, as there is one character who can only be recruited if you are not experiencing joy or joy withdrawals, but again, as you said, you are foced to become the joy mutant.

More importantly you are forgetting that brad can keep one of his hands.

>>13820781

Both are compared to earthbound.

>>13820943

Brad can keep both of his arms if he wants to, it just costs you a party member one time and all of your usable items and Brad's equipment the second time. Still doesn't matter in the least in reality.

>>13820984

Wouldn't you miss the chance to perform certain combos?

>>13814749

Don't be stupid. Paid advertising/shilling is what the AAA games do; indie games simply don't have it in their budget.

>>13820686

>when your character is a fucking avatar of yourself

It's total bullshit that you can't save Asriel, true, but this is completely wrong. The protagonist is not you; you're not naming HIM, but rather the dead ghost kid haunting him. This is pretty basic that at this point I figured everyone knew it.

>>13814731

You're right, OP. Walking simulators are just as shit as jump scare simulators, since neither have satisfying gameplay.

>>13821000

Losing arms means you lose combos and have withdrawal symptoms quicker, but that doesn't matter either. The same things happen either way.

>>13820686

Undertale is about letting things go, not about morality though, it was never about morality.

>>13814907

Tax actually has been theft for the last 20 or so years though, maybe longer

It goes right into politicians pockets and doesn't do jack shit for the citizens.

>>13821137

At least jump scare simulator has gameplay

>>13814731

If a good game doesn't get coverage it's because the creator isn't in with any of the game blogger clique.

>>13814806

Superbunnyhop liked NITW, I can't respect someone with an opinion that wrong.

>>13814806

lol

>>13814731

Im gonna make my own hipster RPG, with hoookers and black jack

Because niggers in the hood is super-de-duper fucking gay and full of SJW-lingo, which appeals to 'game journalists'.

They're so fucking stupid that they get conned into promoting a game, which hates on capitalism and republicans, thus increasing the sales for the developer - for free. Whoever made this game knew how to appeal to these dumbasses, and took advantage of it.

>>13814731

theres an easily exploitable thing you can do to drum up sales for a game you say?

*slowly resisting urge to rub hands

>>13814749

>actually pay

Y'mean that their status as buttbuddy to some famous webcomic faggot or meme status from some soyboy letsplayer wasn't enough advertising on it's own?

>>13819898

Speaking of games with more realistic characters morality, IJI does a pretty grim portrayal of ethnic wars between two alien races which end up with humanity entangled.

>Dan wanted you to kill the Tasen because they completely destroyed the Earth's ecosystem in a surprise attack and killed everyone in the research facility, as well as the majority of the Earth's population. Furthermore, due to their personal nanofields, human weaponry is virtually useless against them. He then spends six whole months living off of vending machine candy bars, slaving away to decipher as much of the alien technology that he can so that a hastily thrown together team of scientists can create a nanofield-powered human to stand against them, to stand against the violent alien invaders that have been killing people with zero mercy.

I've still the archived thread. http://web.archive.org/web/20170322014748/https://8ch.net/v/res/12161513.html just in case.

>>13814731

Fnaf doesn't have leftist propganda

/thread

>>13819995

So the audience is why.

>>13821068

>This is pretty basic that at this point I figured everyone knew it.

Yeah everyone that ever played the game.

Which is like 0.008% of people that talk about it, which is why they act like retards about it

>>13815019

>Why then Undertale is coming to PS4?

Because Japan wanted it. But didn't want computers.

Dumbass.

>>13816599

You're right, I don't understand. How could this possibly be upsetting to you?

Oh and friendly reminder

Butterdragon is a massive fucking faggot that used his donation to profiteer off the game and he should choke on a dick.

>>13815152

If Yoshi is laying eggs then he's already reached puberty so technically, no.

>>13815162

yes, it's an edit