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This game is amazingly boring. Its like playing dark souls again. Repeating over and over same segment gets me annoyed.

>have trouble with the bat boss

>switch to odachi

>change to high stance

>just power attack her every time while standing just out of reach of her tantrums

>she dies in a dozen hits

this is great

>>13809660

It really could have used less reused assets, but the combat mechanics themselves are tops.

>>13809707

Isn't that one of the first ones? Haven't played in a while. Am about to pick it back up.

>>13809660

>hates dark souls

>decides to play a dark souls clone

brain problems?

Anyway it looks like I'm reaching the end of the base game, just went through a gauntlet together with Okatsu and Hattori. I disliked the Sekigahara levels and the ruined castle just went on and on, but otherwise I just really love this game. Hits all the right cords for me, even fucking around in early levels is fun.

Also all the historical figures involved are pretty fairly portrayed, even Nobunaga has a good streak to him even though they're doing the whole Demon King spiel.

I just started playing. Had it crash on me, then when I went to retrieve my souls (sorry, "amrita"), I walked to the edge of the cliff to see if my stuff was down there, and then when I pulled back on the stick fucking William took half a step forward so he could turn around for some reason and fell off the goddamn cliff. Must have clipped some geometry or something. Either way I fucking rage quit.

Anyway, I'm having a bit of trouble finding my groove with this game. I started with the Odachi, but it's a bit boring. I tried the tonfa, but they're weak.

What I really want is a weapon that allows for good counters and parries. There seems to be some good counters and guard crush in the tonfa tree, but having shit locked behind skill trees that have quest requirements bothers me. You can't even fucking backstab until you get taught how.

Since it's a Team Ninja game I'm desperately hoping there are some hot fucking ninja girls soon.

/r/ing quick rundown for brainlets on how to into proper offense.

Didn't have much trouble for the first couple of bosses, but Muneshige was a pain in the ass to deal with.

>couldn't break guard for shit

>couldn't stagger him

All I could do was dodge and block till he ran out of juice and hope to finally get some hits in.

I was using spear and tonfas. Currently putting points into sword and axe.

>>13809711

I chalk that up to the development ups and downs this game went through to release as this form.

>>13809749

Daiichi Daiman Daikichi ? It was Mitsunari's motto, his idea of what valor is. I think it means something like "work for everyone's well being", but absolutely don't quote me on this. Pretty sure it was explained in Samurai Warriors 3's Mitsunari campaign.

I hate the loot system. It's annoying as fuck that enemies drop weapons and armor like candy, but I only have 500 slots that get constantly filled with new things, and I have to waste time wading through my inventory and deciding on whether or not I should get rid of item X, Y, or Z. It's a pain. Not only is it a pain, I also don't know which items are worth keep and which items aren't, so I just tend to sell or disassemble lower level duplicates. For all I know, I could be getting rid of the wrong items by doing things this way. Not to mention that I feel like I should be constantly switching weapons because I don't want to get stuck using a level 10 uchigatana when I've got a level 60 pair of tonfa in my inventory, which itself seems counter intuitive when you consider that the game tries to reward you for sticking with a weapon to build it's familiarity.

At the very least, it'd be nice to have an infinite inventory, or maybe just have a charm that prevents enemies from dropping anything but money. Maybe you don't like these suggestions; they're not the point. Maybe you can think of some better solutions. The point is, the loot system + inventory management is bullshit and a pain and I hate it.

The combat is great, though.

>>13809795

The game actually has an infinite storage, you just can't access it during missions.

>>13809788

SW3Z translation/localization never.

>>13809806

How do you access the infinite storage? The shrine?

>>13809795

I just sell everything that isnt my top 5 sets of gear for each category. I then use the spare amrita I got to level up. I only had to do that about 3 or 4 times though, the amrita boost was a good bit of help too.

>>13809756

Odachis cannot parry. They are more for doing big damage with good range.

You need to buy Water Shadow and Leaf Glide in Katana tree to be able to actually "parry"

The parry stat refers to how effective blocking is.

>>13809817

Yes, on the world map go to your base and look for the storehouse option.

>>13809817

Dont just store everything anon, thats a waste of time, either sell it for money or amrita.

>>13809817

Don't bother keeping anything that isn't purple.

You can press select and sell/offer/disassemble anything that isn't purple rarity.

>>13809795

Everything you pick up after reaching your inventory limit is put in storage. The stuff you find in the Tower of London at the start of the game is in there too, since you don't wash up on the beach with it. So it's not like the extra loot disappears, you've just got a separate storage to also clean out.

I just sort by type, and then get rid of anything that isn't at least blue. I'm also sticking with light armour for the speed and stamina buffs, so any other types of armour get sold off or broken down.

>>13809822

Thanks anon. I guess I'll try katanas next. Is the respec book reusable?

>>13809833

You can buy a new one for a lot of cash but don't bother early in the game.

You'll get more than enough Samurai points.

>>13809649

>koei tecmo

>the guys who did the dynasty warrior games

>they finally made a game where enemies react

>a game where you can get surrounded by a ton of fucking enemies and get attack all at once

>but they cant do it on the dynasty warrior games

>no reference to sengoku basara

i feel very conflicted the sengoku basara thing might've of been because capcom but come on

>>13809820

>>13809823

>>13809824

>>13809831

>>13809833

>If it's not rare, just get rid of it and put things you want to keep in the storehouse

Alright, solid advice. I probably would've ended up doing that anyway. Out of curiosity, how do you get the best weapons in the game? There is a forge, so I would imagine that you have to disassemble gear and use it to create even better gear, and that's how you end up becoming ridiculously powerful.

>>13809844

>Out of curiosity, how do you get the best weapons in the game

Keep using whatever you want with the abilities you want and soul match it with any higher level weapons you find.

>>13809844

>how do you get the best weapons in the game?

Different weapons for different people will be the best. You can soul match and reforge a weapon to have different abilities but I wouldn't really soul match until NG+ since it becomes quite expensive to soul match the same item after a while.

>>13809859

>since it becomes quite expensive to soul match the same item after a while.

The cost of soul matching is based on level difference between the target and the material.

Also its not like money has any other uses.

>>13809846

we at least got a date masamune that looks alot like the one from basara inb4 but thats how historically accurate he look'd like duhhh

>>13809859

>>13809862

I forgot to mention in the last thread about soul matching. There is a text in the abyss for a weapon called the Swordsmith’s Hammer that lets you reset your soul matching cost on weapons. It's Tome's hammer.

>>13809749

Went back to SW4 to try and see if he had this in his biography, but it's locked behind the chronicle mode so I didn't have it. Thankfully the koei wikia has it.

>His historical slogan (or the one Kanetsugu introduces to him in the game) is "Dai Ichi, Dai Man, Dai Kaichi" (大一大万大吉), which is also written on the back of his coat. It is an abbreviation of the phrase, "One for all and all for one and Heaven bless the land."

>>13809897

Thanks I figured it had some deeper meaning.

>play this

>like it a lot

>stop playing all of the sudden

Anhedomia is gay.

>>13809764

The side quest where you fight him or the sorry mission? In the side quest just keep him attacking and he'll run out of stamina, then do your finisher on him. Just keep that up til he dies.

>>13809862

There are some other factors that go into soul matching too, like the soul matching reduction and reset skill that are on weapons. I'm pretty sure matching two different pieces of equipment raises the price as well but that could be from the level and stat differences.

>Also its not like money has any other uses.

KT should have added more hair and beard types, that would have been another place to throw gold other than reforging and matching.

>>13809896

Was it dropped by a boss? Around what floor were you?

>>13809968

I haven't got that far but according to what I've heard you get it for clearing the 50th floor.

>>13809976

>floor 50

Hopefully that mode has stuff scattered every 20 floors or so, at floor 25 I've found two neat things but I don't know if I have the will to go down to floor 999.

So anyone who's into real lategame, is the game slowly developing into a dps race to handle group fights? Playing defensively seems to be less and less effective as I'm approaching NG+++.

>>13810034

I think the Frolicking Cats is the last reward at floor 108. Of course fighting Hanzo where ever you find him is a great way for getting all sorts of texts.

>>13809862

Money is always in short supply and more valuable than amerita. Reforging especially is hugely expensive and absolutely necessary to get anything worth a damn. For some reason i never find revenants with competant gear.

>>13810132

There are revenant exclusive equips.

>>13810188

I did that for a while but now I have a fucked up mmo tier combination of random stuff.

>>13810132

that sword is ugly as fuck

>>13810218

you can refashion armor to any other set. weapons are restricted by their class, but it's still nice.

>>13810242

I really want to refashion an odachi into some kind of western weapon like a zweihander. Are there only 3 western weapons or can you find more later?

>>13810242

>you can refashion armor to any other set

Whats the point of doing that when I dump my current armor after finding a better set after one mission? Id rather stay looking all mixed and matched.

>Meme all over Nobunaga's ass

>Cutscene defeat

>He tells Kelley to fuck off and is just a majestic motherfucker all around

Can't even get mad. Also I see his set has "sword of meditation fast skill activation". How much damage does this skill actually do for such a long wind-up?

>>13810242

Can I only choose stuff I've already found?

>>13810224

A cute little dance.

>>13810307

Yes.

>>13810224

Research indicates it's similar to the Kodama bowl headgear in that it provides an additional bonus to whatever Kodama blessing you've chosen.

How do I know which item modifiers need multiple slots of reforging to appear? Is it based on the color? 3 for purple and 2 for yellow or something?

>>13810300

>sword of meditation

It's pretty good if you pick your times to use it. It's great against blockfags.

>>13810319

Does it stack I wonder?

Can you add permanent elemental damage to weapons?

I figured out Soul matching and Reforging won't do the trick which is fucking bullshit

Is it just me, or was Tadakatsu kind of a pussy? He never blocked my swings and I just comboed him to death.

>>13810442

You can reforge elemental damage on to a weapon.

>>13810442

>Can you add permanent elemental damage to weapons?

Yes provided it doesn't already have an innate elemental or status effect.

>Reforging

Try using magic charcoal if you have any.

>>13810471

>>13810478

Aren't the special skills by reforge completely random though?

>>13810540

Yeah. That's why I suggested for you to use Temper instead of reforge. But you have to have that special charcoal to spend on tempering though.

>>13810551

Aye thankd

>>13810478

>>13810551

Tempering is kind of iffy. Certain attributes seem to only go into certain slots when you temper a weapon. I went through a couple hundred attempts and had change attribute to attack dozens of times in slot one and four, change element in two and four, but neither of those EVER showed up in slot 3. That's probably weapon specific and they probably roll a table of affixes for each slot.

Something similar might apply to straight reforging too, so some combination of the two is your best bet to get the affixes you need. Honestly I recommend save scumming, and so it seems does a lot of the community from ps4.

>>13810269

>Dumping your armor

>Not reforging your armor to have amazing affixes and then sticking with it forever

I think I stuck with level 60 armor right up until I was able to forge level 150 divines. I especially love having +20% item/equipment find on my chest, now I actually have +25% of both on there.

>>13810635

Oh, and I'm pretty confident that you cannot get the +20% item find rolls from reforging. Maybe with divine fragments or tempering, but I never rolled either one with normal reforge.

Had an interesting coop run last night. Summoned into "Demon King Revealed" with an actual competent summoner and we did the whole thing without much issue. The only time I triggered my Quick Change was vs the Nue, which I still think is one of the most bullshit individual "bosses" in the game. Against Kelly we actually backed him into a corner and both reapered him to death at the same time, it was kind of neat to see.

>>13810651

>Reforge material is cheap enough. Only temper when you get a roll you like.

That's what I do most of the time. I still end up burning through hundreds if not thousands of reforges and what would be tens of millions of gold

I stopped playing for a while shortly after being the game and some Way of the Strong levels. Is it safe to just pawn off the massive amounts of non-divine equipment I get?

>Three new DLCs are $25

Is it really worth it? Is it really nearly half the game's content in DLC?

>>13810675

>shortly after beating* the game

>>13809764

High stance for all weapons doesn't bounce off when guarded, and lower stance dodges are fast with a faster attack so you can weave between attacks and counter yourself. He has some hyper armour attacks but not all of them and it's always the same ones. The most important things to keep in mind are stance selection, Ki Pulse, mobility and making use of the Ki you get rather than hanging back because you think you have to, because you very rarely do.

>>13809764

>brainlets

I smell faggotry.

>>13810688

>and new levels of the abyss

Is this something you unlock after completing Way of the Strong?

>>13810705

Each difficulty level (including way of the samurai) unlocks a certain number of levels. Once you complete way of the nioh it unlocks down to level 999 and maybe more.

>>13810709

Well fuck. I'd been holding off on those last few way of the samurai levels because I'm too shit at the game to fight multiple bosses at once competently.

>>13810675

>Three new DLCs are $25

Wew, that's like half the complete edition on PC.

>>13810675

> Is it really nearly half the game's content in DLC?

It really is. Base game has 6 regions, DLC adds 3 new regions. The DLC is basically half a sequel.

>>13810731

Those are optional missions. To unlock the next difficulty level you only need to complete the main missions from the base game.

>>13809795

It's always the people who have no idea how to manage loot that hate on the system. There's multiple sorting options, the very next one after Newest (the default one) sorts by strength with each weapon class being in order, between that and the rarity you have everything you need to cut down how many things you have to check to a handful. Inheritables are the only thing that takes slightly more time, but they're only important later on and are stronger the rarer the weapon anyway so the same thing applies. Beyond that, you can just go and offer/sell/disassemble/donate everything in a matter of seconds between every level. This problem you're running into is one that's entirely self-created.

Show me his stat page

>>13810772

>end of the game

You'll be meeting more spirits after the base game ends along with being able to have two at once

>>13810785

Yeah, I know, I meant his Guardian Spirit talisman skill is insanely good.

So it's optimal to disassemble anything that isn't a level 150(+x) divine, right? From there, just use what I like and pay attention to inheritables?

>Get on game after not playing for a while

>You get some free shit

>Tempering system is added

>Level cap is raised

>You can swap between a primary and secondary spirit

>You can play as the qt3.14 nip grills

>There's a PvP arena

Holyshit.

>>13810752

>To unlock the next difficulty level

Of the Abyss? I must of missed it somewhere then.

>>13810772

Well, obviously you don't put the best shit at the beginning of the game. But yeah Atlas Bear looks damn good.

>>13810806

Try it out against anyone block happy and you'll see how easy it punishes them

>>13810808

Abyss is difficulty-independent. Doesn't matter if you play it on Samurai or Nioh, it's the same either way and only gets harder with more floors. The option for it is right above the two twilight missions as soon as you complete Samurai, requires a cracked ochoko to enter

>>13810819

Also to summon inside you require while ochoko cups and you can summon two people. I haven't summoned two, but when I summoned another person it caused a second boss to appear in the arena. If that's the case summoning a second person may force you to face 3 bosses on a floor.

>>13810852

Honestly I shove off every spare shit into Hisahide's teahouse for glory. I rely on random drops for upgrades and it works just fine.

>>13810861

Maybe if you want to be gimped to hell and back. Crafted gear tends to be MUCH better, especially if you are careful to reforge it into something good. Some revenant drops are good because that's other players gear, but most players seem to have your same brand of mental deficiency and don't have gear worth a damn.

>>13810877

>most players seem to have your same brand of mental deficiency

Look faggot, I like varying my gear as loot comes and goes to keep shit fresh and enjoy all the movesets. I know damn well I'm sub-optimized but I'm managing just fucking fine up to Nobunaga so far, so I'm not going to apologize for it. If you so desperately need to optimize your shit before hitting the level caps then maybe you should just git gud.

>>13810852

Split the shit you don't need between disassembly for reforge material for the wonderful game of rolling for new skills on your equipment/using umbracite, and giving them to the shrine for more amrita to level up.

>>13810938

Never worth giving gear to the shrine. Amrita is EASY to come by. Glory is fairly easy as well, especially if you go bridge farming.

I recommend splitting between disassemble and sell. Gold is always hard to get in enough quantity. You ESPECIALLY want to sell about half of your Divine gear when you start getting it. Divine fragments are very nice, but you can quickly get more than you need and not have the gold to use them.

>>13810979

At least at the end of NG and beginning of NG+, when divine-revenant farming becomes a thing, farming and selling Divine gear becomes the fastest way to get money. I have no idea how one gets the money they would need in later difficulties.

>>13810979

If he goes gold then he should max out the sell price request to really get the most out of it.

>>13810992

That's what I did. Although personally reforge cost reduction first, then sell, then soul match.

Not to confuse forge with reforge. Forging is cheap

That was weird. Spend a lot of time on WotS and had a lot of trouble with doing enough damage. Barely spend any time upgrading my gear which isn't even 200 and skip main missions to go to orochi to see what item level drops there. End up doing more damage and beating heads in almost one phase instead of 3 like my WotS run.

Did anyone else think NG++ was a lot easier?

What the fuck is up with the servers? I get lost connection 9 times out of 10.

>>13811336

Nips still can't into netcode

>>13811421

Tengu are tough but fair. Wheelmonks can just run you over at 80mph over and over again if they feel like it.

>>13811446

They are literally made of bullshit, but they don't actually do any damage

>>13811447

>the one thats actually dangerous is the one that gives you half an hour dodge window

Their dangerous attack is the one where they just randomly roll into you without doing an actual attack. To easily beat Tengu all you have to do is stay close and bait the claw swipe into 360 combo then punish them.

>>13811491

not the one that posted the webm but I recognized the song, have the original youtube related gives the remixes

>>13811519

much love man appreciated.

How the fuck do sets work? I'm wearing a full iga ninja set, but only receiving the bonus from my weapons.

Wait I thought I had to beat all main missions to get the next NG. It's actually just the last normal boss.

>>13811541

I actually remember the remix used in the video I think is this one

https://soundcloud.com/yungestbae/selfish-high-heels

Polite sage for out of topic

>>13811547

You have to have the attributes to gain any bonuses from armor, I think iga ninja requires 12 body, 13 skill. Crafted armor has reduced requirements though, crafted iga is only 6/7.

tonfa master race. reminds of ninja gaidens 2 tonfas. so goddamn satisfying dashing everywhere and pulling crazy combos.

>>13809660

>lock on

>strafe

>hit enemy in the back

how the fuck people manage to play these games to the end, are they braindead?

>>13811558

Because every single enemy is alone and doesn't have a 360 degree attack that can hit you before you recover from your attack animation

>>13811558

>he plays it like dorksouls

cant webm gameplay vids at the moment but this is close to how i play nioh

>>13811595

I played dork souls without armor and without using the lock on until that retarded white dragon boss, got sick of it and dropped it, but the game forces you to use it on boss fights. And 99% of you casual faggots play like this, dont even try to deny it.

>>13811611

i forgot this game had lock-on and neglected to use it until people started bitching about it

>>13811611

>without using the lock on

why would you not use a feature of the game?

>>13811611

>I played dork souls without armor and without using the lock on

Wow anon, ur so hard core. tell me more.

>>13811673

be a ninja for easy modo. You can just throw kunai at everything til it dies.

why do i wanna fuck the kodamas so bad

>>13811673

>Then repeat from the top all with no pause

Just block and watch his pitiful amounts of stamina go down.

You did buy grapple did you not?

Wait what? I'm on WotW and I didn't know you could grapple them.

>>13811673

I'll admit I do usually blast Tengu with Sloth. That, or I try to set lightning status on them with a single combo even if I have to get roundhouse kicked to the face to make it happen.

>>13811745

>They're weak to lightning?

You can see all enemy information in Amrita Memories on the map screen.

So is this game worth an actual

PURCHASE

Or should I pirate it first?

>>13811745

>Blocking one of those three hit combos was enough to deplete all my Ki though

>on tonfas

Are you blocking in high stance or something?

>>13811760

Always try before you buy.

>>13811673

>Also those little flying skulls are just straight up fucking stupid.

Do your self a favor and put some points into ninja so you can get kunai to throw at little annoying shits like them. They also do wonders for wheelmonks and make it easier to fight just about everything since if you get something low but run out of ki to smack the shit out of them before the smack the shit out of you, you can just throw a fucking knife at them and make their head fall off.

>>13811745

>They're weak to lightning?

Well they aren't immune to it. Lightning effect is basically mini-sloth. It's not as strong a slow and I don't think it reduces regular move speed, but it does reduce attack/dodge speed enough to get comboes in reliably afterward. Plus it stays up permanently as long as you can hit

>>13811771

Roger that, I figured as much. is the fitgirl 21 gig torrent good to go?

>>13811760

Always pirate first. The game's pretty good, although it sure as hell ain't gonna be everybody's cup of tea.The port is decent although lacking in proper M+KB support because the game's control scheme is entirely reliant on how a controler is laid out.

>>13811780

Should be, though it's gonna unpack to about double that if not more.

>>13811780

Yes, but also get the 1.21.02 patch. Makes the game run better.

>>13811784

>>13811792

>>13811781

I mean, I know what I am going into, I have a controller and everything and my computer is up to date. Just wonder if the 56$ price tag is worth the port. Ill get started on the pirate for now.

>>13811794

Port's okay. Runs pretty well on my machine, seems to have a good amount of content and it has all the DLC so that 56 is all you're gonna have to put down.

>>13811794

Well it is the port and all the DLC for 56$ so you're already better off then people who bought it for PS4.

>>13811794

You get the base game which is pretty big and the three DLCs which basically double the content. You get a lot of bang for your buck with those 60 bucks.

>>13811781

It wouldn't be too hard for the developers to make a good layout for the game. There would need to be some code modifications to split out controls that are normally handled by the same button, but the game could be totally playable

WASD move

Mouse Camera

Space dodge/run

Shift stance/ki burst button

LMB light attack

RMB heavy attack

MMB lock on

Mousewheel change lockon, or alternatively hold MMB and move the mouse

Numbers 1-4 items (would do 1-8 for two sets if possible).

Q Switches item sets

Shift+F switches weapons

Shift+R switches ranged weapons

Shift+Q switches guardian spirit

E maps to Circle/B button (use objects, sheathe weapon/buffs/iai attacks)

CTRL ready ranged weapon

Left mouse switch/fire ranged standard ammo

Right mouse switch/fire ranged alternate ammo

I'm not sure about stances. Probably shift+123E but that sounds a little hard to learn because of the E. Maybe make it shift+1234 with E as an alternate key

Is there anything I missed, because I think all of this works pretty well in standard "FPS style" controls. Maybe there's some combination of buttons that would be hard to do? This is basically a first-draft that would be put through development testing.

>>13811843

Quality bait.

>>13811867

You forgot blocking. Also it would be impossible to move and switch weapons/stances at the same time without shifting all of your fingers on your left hand, and I'm not really sure how I could be done without making things even more awkward.

>>13809649

Why do the japs look more realistic than the westerners in this game?

>>13811942

You already can't move and switch weapons because dpad/left stick is incompatable to begin with Shift +123 is done with pinky and middle finger, leaving your index free for WSD. You can't use A easily, but it's more than you get when switching weapons on a controller and more than enough for the brief instant you would be switching stances.

You are right about block though. I'd probably shift Stances to MB4 and put block on Shift, but "officially" developers can't use MB4 because not everybody has one.

I fucking hate those wheels. Close range roll is not telegraphed and just breaks through your guard like it's not there.

I read a few threads ago that everyone should have 20 dex and skill to unlock some missions. Would a sword user need/want to do those missions?

>>13812571

Yes.

20 dex is primarily required to unlock the master ninja training mission "A true ninja" at the dojo, which in turn unlocks the two Ninjutsu Mystic Artes. One of those arts allows you to instantly use ninjutsu items such as Power Pills and Quick Change (extra life) scrolls. Both are immensely useful.

Not only does it unlock the Mystic Artes, but completing that mission also allows you to purchase Okatsu's skin for your character. She is of course the most expensive (and objective best) skin option at 100k glory.

Completing the mission A True Ninja is also necessary to unlock at least one other side mission outside of the dojo.

>>13812571

>>13812665

Worth noting though you can always respec after you've done the mission (and or when you want to do it) with a book of reincarnation. They are pretty cheap to start with and they cap at a low enough cost to be affordable in NG+ anytime.

I tried asking this last thread, but how good is the "Ki Pulse" stat? I've been stacking skill because it's the common attribute between my two weapons and I've got A+ skill on both of them now as well, so I get a lot of damage out of it. I just want to know what I'm getting besides damage.

>>13813100

nigga dey all chinese

>>13813076

The stat improves the amount of "recoverable" ki that can be obtained when you hit an enemy which will allow you to get the pulse bonus sooner by partially filling more of the red section of ki.

>>13813118

I explained it rather vaguely but the best explanation is to hit empty air and look at the ki bar, then compare it to when you hit an enemy.

>>13813124

The real question is "by how much".

>>13813162

I have more issue with him spamming bombs and shit. That boss doesn't really give you any chance to recover

>>13810966

>>13810806

Not to mention when you do the GS while in living weapon mode it lets you cycle through all of the elemental effects so you can apply discord very easily.

>>13813190

I personally find it easier to apply status OUT of living weapon, LW just doesn't have enough buildup

>>13813167

Use any thrown object while he is airborn. Then just give him a final blow and wait for him to reteleport and do it again. As long as you stay locked on to him and keep the rhythm up he practically can't touch you.

>>13812571

Ninjutsu and Omyo spells are actually pretty useful. I would recommend getting those no matter what.

Don't play this like memesouls by just pumping up a single stat hoping to one shot enemies.

Im pirating it. I'm way cooler if I beat it solo right?

>>13813264

Eh. It's pretty doable solo, at least as far as the first difficulty.

>>13813284

But surely it's more cool that beating it with help.

>>13813146

That I couldn't say for certain, it seems to be percent-based but I don't know the calculation for it.

>>13813285

The hardest fights in the game don't allow summons anyway.

>>13809649

I dislike the Diablo loot drops, I spend way more time managing all the worthless loot crap.

Equipment grade and parameters should be entirely done by the blacksmith.

>>13813365

They might as well be. It's not even worth looking at parameters on equipment drops other than transferrables. Just craft the best level gear you can and then reforge/temper every slot until it has what you want.

Random tip: Umbricite drops primarily in coop

>>13813354

Some of the newer yokai typically seen in the final three regions of the game that were added as DLC will laugh at the sloth talisman since it will basically last for a second or two. The talisman used to be a lot stronger and journalists and players would talk about how broken it was.

>>13813399

The DLCs added new enemies to old regions? Like what?

>>13813399

it really was broken, to the point of why even bother with it. Kind of like perma-invincibility suzaku

Anyway if you use sloth at all you're a shitter so really you deserve whatever you get

>>13813402

The way I see it, you are the shitter for not using every tool you have available to you. If you aren't doing everything you can to win (whether you technically need to or not) you are failing.

>>13813401

I meant the Osaka siege regions and Oshu for the final three regions since the PC version just has the DLC prepacked. in the higher NG+ though I've sworn I've seen those fox demons and Rokurokubi added to the other regions in missions.

>>13813402

The game should have given enemies the torpor ability earlier through mages or on hit for some bosses and enemies rather than just nerfing the talisman.

>>13813444

damn now I see, by not playing the easiest most braindead way, you become the shitter.

>>13811611

Same here i played through half the game without knowing you could lock on.

>>13813585

Yeah, play every game on easy mode, it's in the game it doesn't mean I'm bad!

Do you write for kotaku or something

>>13813585

I mean the real best part is I can call you a shitter who hasn't beaten way of the nioh because bosses start getting massive defense buffs when debuffed in that mode making sloth talismans literally useless. You saw plenty of shitters complain about their crutch being taken away on that difficulty

>>13813622

>play every game on easy mode

>using mechanics provided to you is easy mode

Gee I shouldn't be using those elixirs after all

>>13813652

I've been considering the makibishi balls, I've have paralyze powder but I haven't been using it as much like I used to.

>>13813653

>using weapons

>not just fisting everything

pathethic

>>13813663

Makibishi balls are fucking amazing. Every individual makibishi inflicts or reapplies sloth and and they cause a momentary stun effect to humans every time one is stepped on. Plus being a ninjutsu they can be restored mid battle using the Iga 2 piece bonus.

>>13812033

>warrior of the west

>warrior of the west

>ninja

>warrior of the west

fuck these cunts

>>13813716

They try to balance coop by lowering the stats on visitors who are too high level but since most of your damage comes from gear and stacking multipliers it doesn't really help.

>>13813724

Wait until you get to the third act where 9 out of 10 people wear red demon armor. The other guy will either be wearing warrior of the west still or just be wearing random pieces of gear. I swear there must be a guide somewhere that all these people are following because it's a genuine surprise whenever I get to fight a ninja or something other than red faggots anymore.

>>13813752

Could you imagine a Bird Man and Bat Bitch dual fight?

>>13813752

If you throw kunai at him while he's flying he falls on his ass and then you just giggle like a madman while you stab him on the ground.

>Grace of Tsukuyomi

>2PC Damage Reduction 3.2%

>3PC Onmyo Magic Power +65

>4PC Close Combat Damage +13.8%

>5PC Ki Recovery (Timely Guard)

>6PC Onmyo Magic Damage Bonus A+

>7PC Recover Onmyo Items (Finished Using Living Weapon) 30%

7PC Recover Onmyo Items (Finished Using Living Weapon) 30%

My dick is an iron kanabo right now.

<Sukunahikona's Grace

<2PC Damage Reduction 3.2%

<3PC Unlimited Daion-jin's Sake 64.4%

<4PC Close Combat Damage +13.8%

<5PC Unlimited Saisetsu-shin's Sake 77.2%

<6PC Increase Luck (Defiled Items) AA

<7PC Damage From Stones +5000.0%

This one is just fucking funny.

>>13813622

These are the same faggots that will use the wallhacks and auto headshots in stealth games because they are there. Its pointless arguing with these casuals.

The scythe and weighted chain are the funniest weapon in game.

>>13814111

I hope you have the high stance skill that pulls people toward you because that skill is the fucking best.

>>13814142

can someone explain to me why the big one eyed oni randomly become the small one eyed ones if you kite them long enough?

>>13814167

Maybe runs out of amrita?

>>13814167

Those are counterfeit oni. They're just transformed one eyed imps. You can tell because their eyes are glowing. If they exhaust the amrita that they stole from you they return to their original forms.

>>13814190

>>13814179

wew

aight, next question, how do I prime the crystal oni to detonate, because Im pretty sure Ive seen one explode before

>>13814211

Match the element of the oni with the element you're attacking with.

>>13814211

What >>13814231 said.

Usually a single elemental shot of the appropriate element is enough to make them explode. They're great for taking out groups of enemies.

>>13814553

You grind materials to make them and then make a million copies until you get one that's good.

>>13814553

A lot of unique helmets drop from certain enemies you summon in different levels. Then most armors and weapons from bosses will start dropping a lot more later in the game.

>>13814553

Grind. They drop from bosses, enemies have a chance of dropping them and bosses have a very, very low chance of dropping smithing texts for them.

>>13814573

>bosses have a very, very low chance of dropping smithing texts for them

These are the things you want too because later you can start making divine equipment with and 80% chance so basically just wear what ever you fell like until you beat the base game and then get the smithing text to what you want and make it.

>>13814583

Tonfas are the best weapon in the game ki depletion wise. So you probably stunlocked the shit out of her.

>>13814595

Oh right, I forgot she has shit Ki. Still, tonfas are great and a load of fun.

>>13814628

Not to mention kunai in general fuck her up good.

Has anyone come up with a good high Spirit build?

I know that there are quite a few peices of armor and weapons with spirit scaling but how good can you make it?

>>13814737

Just put heavy armor on and put a bunch of levels into health to become the most annoying fucking revenent that ever lived.

>>13814568

>>13814571

>>13814573

thanks, I'll keep this in mind and I guess check the wikis on who drops what, and how to smith the shit I want

>>13813752

He's also still considered airborn when his feet already landed on the ground. He's such a pushover it's ridiculous. A lot of bosses have this thing where they are almost useless if just hug them. They way some attacks track you makes playing it safe by keeping the distance to learn the patterns actually the most dangerous.

>>13814874

The wiki is so empty. Didn't even see a mention of any difficulty beyond WotS.

Can you make divine sets at the blacksmiths or is that locked until later?

>>13814553

why are these yokai designs so fucking cute

>>13815040

Once you unlock WotS. You gotta change materials and invest some divine fragments to increase the chance for divines.

>>13815040

10 fragments will give will give you a 96% chance of forging a divine. Once you get to NG+ you can also get divines from the Teahouse lottery.

>>13814874

>>13815026

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oi5_WMfnKEOljZbvv8nMVyaFJC63wpTeeJCYI_RxMA0/edit

Has the locations of everything except DLC3 stuff.

Wait, you can't get thw qt blacksmith girl as a skin?

I bought a game pad just for this game. It's pretty good, but holy shit, gaming without a kb+mouse is so fucking bad, console people really are plebs

>>13815172

oh man, thats rough. Is the entire game choppy too or is it just pronounced during movies? Do you have everything on low that you can? I remember someone saying that low shadows are more intensive than just having them on medium…

>>13815172

Running it on a Core 2 Duo. I know that feel. Slow motion fights would be easier if it didn't add input delay like crazy.

>>13815217

I think for Nioh at least it worked nicely due to the stance changing system, can't imagine it being enjoyable on kbm.

>>13815226

I have them turned off. Everything on lowest. Changing fps limit doesn't seem double the game speed.

>>13815226

The game runs smoothly, then when it needs to load assets it hiccups way worse than that. sometimes it needs a good minute when reaching a new area whithin a level.

Already set everything to lowest possbile, even disabled shadows, doesn't help so much when the game tries to load in particles and special effects.

>>13815234

My luck is that only my RAM sucks, so it doesn't actually lag, just has severe hiccups frmo time to time.

>>13815259

It's the opposite for me. Have the game on an SSD and enough ram but it runs in slow motion on big stages, yet without hiccups.

>>13815304

I want to say you find her hammer at a certain point in The Abyss, which unlocks her skin.

>>13815319

Fuck I didn't even know about skins when I played it. It's somewhere in the Teahouse menus, isn't it?

>>13815349

Fug. I knew it. I skipped that whole "choose a clan" and "glory" shit because I thought it was some online bullshit.

>>13815364

Choose a clan, their bonuses can help.

>>13815358

A PS4 is a lot more expensive than a new cpu+mainboard and it doesn't allow me to drawfag.

>>13815380

It's sorta online bullshit, but it does grant passive boosts and a weekly reward based on clan performance.

>>13815358

The irony is that I'm playing the game on a PC but with with a DS4 controller.

>>13813992

Yeah, that works alright for the face buttons, but not at all for the dpad, ESPECIALLY on an xbox controller because there is no fucking way you are going to control the stick with the side of your index finger.

>>13815741

me too, its the best pc controller currently available

>>13815097

1 fragment is a 49% chance. Unless you really desperately need to conserve some rare mats, I wouldn't bother with 10.

>>13815741

>>13815404

A good graphics card and cpu always helps too!

Too bad that my toaster is absolute garbo when it comes to almost any game thats worth a damn.

I was just lucky that my brother bought a ps4 but never even plays it.

>>13815358

go away sonynigger

>>13815942

My gpu isn't the issue when the game uses over 80% of my cpu even when paused.

>>13815793

>not at all for the dpad,

considering my default strategy for fights is 'run away and throw kunai' i'm gonna go ahead and say either 'you're wrong' or 'get a dualshock 3, faggot. they work fine for that.'

Shamesless primary low stance and secondary mid stance dual sword fag here. Never use debuffs and only use elemental attacks against enemies with high defense because it feels like cheating and I like fighting my enemies raw. How do I git gud?

>>13816145

throw kunai and run/sloth talismans+lightning debuff

>>13816175

>Ranged attacks

>Gimping the enemy

I think I'll stick to brute forcing shit.

>>13816177

also, stop using shit weapons. you deal like no damage, i can trade with dual sword users all day

>>13816191

I love wearing heavy armor vs dual sword users, feels like the patter of rain

>>13816170

I find myself preferring the claw to any other monster hunter controls just because it was my first and I got so used to it

PSP still best handheld of all time

I notice that Way of the Strong starts with 3 regions unlocked. Is it necessary to beat the story missions on the first two regions to get to the next difficulty?

>>13816546

No, you just have to beat some of the missions in order to progress. Koei Tecmo relaxed the number needed a while ago too.

I keep getting summoned to the same guy on Masamune on a higher difficulty and it's pretty clear neither of us are strong enough to do it.

>>13816655

5th time in a row, I guess that's it for coop

>>13816655

Honestly, I could PROBABLY handle him on my own, but most of my damage would need to come from knockdown comboes in the brief window between LWs where he is vulnerable. The host doesn't comprehend that though so he wails on him for his piddly 100ish damage per hit causing him to block my 15k combo.

Well that skeleton was as disappointing as it was bigly

>>13817135

What is the worst boss? The Skellyman or the Centipede?

>>13817135

First time I fought him I thought I had to kill both feet to knock him down, then I attacked the hands which were on the ground next to me. Not sure how you are supposed to kill him once you've killed both hands and both feet

>>13817146

Centipede easily. Even if Gash isn't that great of a boss the presentation of the fight and his entire stage was impressive. And you don't spend half the fight getting poisoned.

>>13817153

Shoot him in the head or in the crotch.

What you're really suppose to do is to attack his head every time he falls down after defeating a limb. The fight expects you to use LW since the battlefield is littered with those infinite amrita gauge portals.

>>13817169

Yeah I killed him easy enough once I figured out to attack ONE foot and then the head. If you don't know that though you can end up with him at like 50%+ health and no way to really damage him

So how do the twilight missions work exactly? I've been ignoring them because the ones that have been unlocking were missions that I particularly hated, but if the mission goes away am I no longer able to do it?

>>13817240

Nah, they will cycle in again, 2 per day.

>>13817225

That's the only reason I consider him to not be a (mechanically) good boss fight. He's not actually terrible though. If they just patched in regenerating target points for his feet and hands he would be fine.

The game doesn't really do supersized bosses that well. The best two are Ninetails and Umibozu. Ninetails was great and Umi is only frustrating because you can fall in the water if you're not careful.

>>13817146

I didnt have any problems with centipede since I knew how to cheese him but gashadokuro was an absolute pain in the ass along with that entire mission to kill em, fuck em.

Is there still a point in forging when 22+ stuff starts dropping? Soulmatching it this much seems pointless.

>>13817268

What are you talking about, x+22 gear?

>>13817279

Yes.

>>13817264

>I didnt have any problems with centipede since I knew how to cheese him

I recall there's a wrong way to fight him, a boring cheese way to fight him, and a right way. But I can't remember the right way.

>>13816191

>also, stop using shit weapons. you deal like no damage

But I like to go fast.

>deal like no

Be honest, how underage are you?

>>13817929

im 12 and what is this

>I like to go fast

Regular katana hits harder and gets more attacks (though fewer hits) per unit of time.

>God tier

Kusarigama

Katana

>Great tier

Spear

Odachi

Axe

>Shit tier

Dual Swords

Tonfas

>>13818604

By what metric?

I agree with your "god tier" so far, since I run sword/gama myself, but it's axe/odachi I would put in shit tier.

>>13817991

Dual swords are MUCH better at applying element status than singles

>>13818604

Tonfas are brutal against humans, their strong suit is impact and mobility, but poor tracking if the enemy is mobile himself.

>>13818715

Poor TTK and crowd control. They are good at shutting down one enemy for a prolonged period, provided you don't get shit on yourself by something else and that one enemy is susceptible to being shut down in the first place.

Well, at least I never have to worry about finding another Kodama, I fucking hate those things

>>13818738

Situations where you need crowd control are either best avoided or cheap bullshit if they can't anyway. But yes, tonfas are build from the ground up to be purely duel weapons with a narrow range of attacks.

>>13818905

Tell that to the double/triple boss fights

>>13818920

Are you implying they are not cheap challenges slapped together for easy endgame content?

>>13817268

It's still useful if you are trying to inherit something particular on a piece of equipment. And of course armor you forge from scratch has lower stat requirements.

>>13819275

>>13817268

Soulmatching gear at the same base level doesn't increase soul matching cost, and +levels carry over even as the base level increases. Forging something fresh from say 200+1 at the blacksmith up to 200+20 isn't really that bad.

>>13818777

Who could hate a kodama?

>>13819311

Someone who had to find 225 of the fuckers

>>13818698

yes but the guy using them is a tard scared of winning too much so he's relying on pure physical dps

>>13819401

Kodama sense exists for a reason anon.

>>13819792

If I didn't have kodama sense I wouldn't have been ABLE to find them all. With it it was just incredibly tedious and frustrating.

>>13819799

>tfw no kodama skin in the Teahouse

Game had been running great with no crashes until just now when it crashed twice in a row on WotD Hundred Eyes. The real annoying part is that it didn't save my progress, so I have to kill the kellys for a third time now.

Versus mode is buggy and laggy as fuck

Got about a week before my refund window closes for a patch to come out because I've spent the last 2 days fucking with shit trying to get this game to not crash the moment I start it with no luck

I just won a couple of matches and gained dual swords I should not have gained yet. I think.

Are there pvp exclusive rewards?

>>13821650

I haven't actually tried the PVP, but I know that Anima stones are supposed to drop there. Otherwise they come from a few mission rewards. They are used to reforge your weapons with pvp-specific traits

>>13821302

Had to restart the mission, crash happened every time I got near the boss, either on the stairs up to him or at the start of the fight. Beat it on the restart, fortunately Hundred Eyes is one of the easiest bosses in the game, the 3x clone kelly before him is much harder.

Now onto way of the Wise. As it turns out, in order to unlock a difficulty level you only need to complete ANY 17 missions (including side missions) and then complete "the queens eyes". Alternatively, if you complete ALL the main missions on the previous difficulty, including the DLCs, then that will also count for your mission completion and you will just need to do "the queen's eyes" itself. I skipped Way of the Strong that way.

I'm guessing the people with 40m glory in the clan ranks cheated to get it? Unless there's some way to farm a crazy amount of it that only a few people know about/have access to, the next highest have under 1m.

So I tried the game and I like it.

Should I support this developer?

Is it only available thorough steam?

>>13822093

Choose based on what bonuses you that will help you with what you are doing right now or that works with your equipment. You can change after 24 hours if you don t like what you have.

>>13822255

Good to know you can change it. Thanks, anon.

>>13823035

Need to use those locks/10

Ok I beat Orochi and then the eyeball man

what now?

>>13824522

You can either complete the three DLCs or go to the next difficulty.

Finishing the 3 dlcs should automatically unlock eyeball man in the next difficulty, or else you need to beat 17 missions (not necessarily main ones) in that difficulty, and the process begins again.

>>13824543

how do I go into next difficulty?

is it just newgame+ where I gotta do all that shit again or can I just pick what I wanna do

I really dont wanna have to find all those little green men again

>>13824553

You just go to the country map and press the country map button again (press x/square twice). You start off being able to select from missions in the first 3 regions, and you can flip back and forth at any time.

Kodamas are once only

>>13824553

>I really dont wanna have to find all those little green men again

You don't. All shrines are already maxed.

>>13824543

>not necessarily main ones

I can't stress this enough. Main missions are long and tedious, and there are 5 difficulties to go through counting the start (samurai, strong, demon, wise, nioh). If you can handle it, you just do the easiest/fastest side-missions and then The Queen's Eyes to progress.

>>13824543

>>13824598

>Thinking I have to do all the missions for 100%

>Been going through area by area doing missions in order of level.

>>13824658

Its not all bad, you probably got some locks out of it too. Now that you realize it just do the missions that give locks of hair for your completion %.

>>13825194

Do you get locks from in-level loot in each difficulty, or only once? I haven't really looked.

In other news, the game used to be perfectly stable, now it's crashing fairly often ever since I ran into that glitch on Queen's Eyes WotD.

>>13825462

Only once, same as Kodamas.

Is there a limit to how many reset books you can get? I've reset about 3 times now to try different weapons.

I've mostly used sword and dual swords and now tonfas and kurasigama (plus ninjutsu). I'm thinking of trying something else or going back to dual swords though.

>>13826471

The price goes up each time you buy it, caps at 1m each

>>13826471

>I've reset about 3 times now to try different weapons

Why

>I've mostly used sword and dual swords and now tonfas and kurasigama

At least pick a combination that isn't redundant m8

>>13826871

I reset every time I want a different jutsu, got to be optimized.

I'm Sword/Gama though

>>13826871

>Why

I have trouble settling on things.

>At least pick a combination that isn't redundant m8

Like what? I guess sword and dual sword is redunant, but tonfa and gama play different enough.

>>13826953

>>13826871

Yeah, I'm running tonfas for if they get close and gama while they're distant. They cover each other very well.

>>13826953

The stats which govern Tonfa and Kusarigama are not complementary. Both get nearly same defensive moveset focused on dodges despite Tonfa actually being better suited for blocking. The only place the Tonfa beats the Kusarigama is in terms of Ki damage which isn't that useful because you could just stunlock and kill enemies with the gama in the time it takes you to deplete the enemy's Ki assuming the enemy in question actually is affected by Ki depletion.

In the end its all min max bullshit because you can beat the game with no Samurai point investment and minimal stat investment but considering you respecced thrice already you care about minmax bullshit.

>>13826994

>I'm running tonfas for if they get close and gama while they're distant

You do realize that the gamas are even better in close range right?

>>13826994

I built myself for gama first and tonfa as a backup, but found myself mostly using the tonfas. They're super fun for rushing down enemies and keeping a combo up, which is how I mostly played dual swords.

I'm wondering if axe or odachi are any good. Being able to combo into different stances with the odachi seems pretty interesting.

>>13827119

>but considering you respecced thrice already you care about minmax bullshit.

But I don't, I just wanted to try out different weapons and see what they're like. I'm still clueless as to which stat is best for what or which weapon combinations work well together.

If you could actually follow up the stance change attack with attacks from the new stance in the same string it would be amazing. As it is it's 100% pointless because you are forced to have dead time anyway and could just manually change stances then. In fact if you change during your ki burst you even get some bonus ki back that way, which doesn't happen when you use a stance changing move.

>>13827191

>If you could actually follow up the stance change attack with attacks from the new stance in the same string it would be amazing

Which weapon are you talking about?

You can absolutely do that with the odachi. It even preserves your Ki pulse.