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>>13763833

>>>/agdg/

>>13763833

Because they are amateurs doing it for free.

>>13763847

This is a general question about modders, not asking for advice or showing progress of my own mod. Does this really belong there?

>>13763865

No, it doesn't, he's retarded.

And the answer is obviously because they're mostly all terrible amateurs who think that hiding inside of them is an "expert game designer" that they've been somehow cultivating just by playing video games and watching Extra Credits. They don't realize that actual game design is hard work and takes a lot of studying and practice to get right. It's a skill, and it's one that they don't have.

You're right, the worst problem they have is excess. They can't gauge what is "enough", and have no idea of the concept "less is more". If they had ever done any sort of real art, engineering, music composition, amateur film, or anything at all that takes creativity and skill, they'd know this and know that good art and design is about balancing what you put down and not giving your consumer a terrible sense of sensory overload. It's not like you have to be minimalist, but you do have to practice some restraint and hone it into something clean.

Most of the people making game mods and maps are talentless and actually have no hobbies outside of playing video games and watching superhero movies, so it's really not surprising that they also fuck up the one thing that they assume they must be good at.

>>13763833

Enjoy never being able to finish the game on redux. It crashes each and every time at the very last level, after you clear our first half and you have to take the elevator down. Reproducible too.

>>13763917

Do you know what specifically causes it? I'd actually like to fix that.

>>13763902

I've studied a lot of really shitty level design thanks to Halo Custom Edition and Unreal Tournament. It just seems like they should at least have some sort of idea that when one object is bigger than the other and can't even be seen anymore, then at some point even they should see that and go, "Oh wait, that's fucking stupid." I've seen a new modder go onto an Unreal Tournament forum and say they were the best coder evAr, then proceeded to produce 3/~9 projects that actually worked and talked down to other community members, even editing a wiki over it.

>>13764218

I haven't been able to find any help regarding this. There were some crashes before and one corruption, but they went through with reloading of the save. This is just unfixable, doesn't give a specific error or anything. Go to the end game and see for yourself.

>>13763833

At least show how it looks in-game you massive faggot.

The reasoning for this could be that they are acting as a wall, though a bit excessively (maybe to be consistent).

>that one guy's who's Doom maps are all perfectly symmetrical squares

>People actually mod Fallout Tactics

I had no idea

>>13764479

Trainwiz's mods may have a lot of effort and creativity but their execution is pretty mixed and only seem good because they're marginally less awful than the base game.

>>13764533

>marginally less awful

>download World Eater Beater

>halfway through get dropped into some fucking acid that takes all my health away in three seconds

>to get out have to levitate

>get to alduin

>shoot him for fifteen minutes

>he regens back

>run around looking for stuff

>all important things have been kiked off the arena by Alduin's attacks

I have never encoutered shit this gamebreaking in vanilla.

>>13764570

That's true but the vanilla fight is extremely boring. His mods just trade boredom for absurdity, with the absurdity being either frustrating or novel since they're so inconsistent.

I didn't actually have too much trouble with Alduin but my build was hilariously overpowered at that point.

>>13763833

it's a common misconception that, more shit=good, another example is MISERY for Stalker: CoP

>>13764731

But more shit can be generally good. It's just that misery was made by kikes seeking a cashgrab at the lowest effort possible. Misery is an utter shit mod, probably the shittiest I have played ever.

>>13764747

>It's just that misery was made by kikes seeking a cashgrab at the lowest effort possible.

What did he mean by this

>>13764747

>>13764731

I've enjoyed misery.

>>13764747

cashgrab? why do you say that?, there is effort behind it but it's just not well aplied, they only delivered what the community wanted which was a harder an edgier stalker back when they finished the I work alone mod

>>13764764

it can be enjoyed but i missed the A-life a loot, in misery mutants no longer fight each other, they only atack stalker, just for th sake of artificial difficulty.

>That one mapmaker who abuses the color codes to make everything unreadable

>That one mapmaker who tries his hand in ascii art, but fails completely

>>13764770

>a-life

It's a meme, it's pretty much always the same every time unless someone in a predefined path or territory crosses the hostile creature's or fraction's path or territory. It's a joke.

>the A-life a loot

wat

>in misery mutants no longer fight each other

If that's true, there is also either an increased spawn rate or a more well defined patrols that fight those mutants.

>>13764770

After they made the mod in broken version it came out, they stopped working on it almost entirely. They instead shifted to writing a book (which they charge for) and I think their latest plans are to make a stand alone game.

>>13764479

>>the area is so buggy the terrain sometimes kills you, you have to clip through walls to finish quests

hey, you just described a hat in time

>>13763849

thread should have stopped here tbh

>game has a mod which adds a whole swathe of new dungeons

>you later find out it was all created through random generation

Fucking Tombs Expanded for Morrowind. I hate that they're procedural, but I still use it because the length of many of the dungeons in vanilla is pitiful. It's not the worst of the randomly generated dungeon mods for Morrowind though, I'd say it's the best. Still pisses me off that there's so few handcrafted dungeon expansions.