2eb5d7 No.13749521
Let's have a thread on any games involving mechs. How is everyone enjoying Gundam Versus?
df05c7 No.13749530
generally speaking the more leg the better the mech tbh
2eb5d7 No.13749535
>>13749530
Tank>legs
Has anyone tried that War Tech Fighters game? Is it good?
354fe0 No.13749545
Mecha are a disease of the adolescent mind.
a86633 No.13749595
>>13749545
RESPECT THE ROBOT
15e769 No.13749607
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Anyone here enjoyed Project Nimbus?
1cd4fb No.13749613
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Why have mechs when you can haveerotic powered exoskeletal suits
df05c7 No.13749616
>>13749535
>every mech thread will have tank shitters autistically arguing over nothing
a86633 No.13749629
7142bb No.13749688
>>13749607
Its more of a vtol missile spam type game. I don't think its bad, but it doesn't quite match up to ACfA when using infinite boost NEXTs and definitely not as good as when using the somewhat gimped NEXT set ups that can't use infinite boost.
b85cd4 No.13749703
Are there any good mech games coming out?
8e15eb No.13749781
Golden mech era lasted for a while and then suddenly both west and japan forgot how to make a proper mech game.
>new mech game!
>it's a shmup
>new mech game!
>it's a p2w trash
>new mech game!
>it's a mobile trash
>new mech game!
>it's cowadooty clone with mario mushrooms
>new mech game!
>it's an early access scam
>new mech game!
>it's a 3D shmup
And the cycle continues.
Gundam VS stands out as a dominant franchise in a genre that originated from V-On but is not limited to mechs.
And I heard that the newest one is bad, even though I can't verify it.
Then there is thriving SRW game with only a handful being released in english officially or otherwise out of 40+ something games. But compared to something like Front Mission it barely feels like a mech game, since customization is so very limited.
Not to mention chibi style ruin the whole mechanical war machine appeal to a lot of people. I can deal with it, but know a lot of mechafags that can not.
Then there is RTS genre that is also stagnating for years now, and mechs isn't even the focus there.
Then there was fucking Xenoblade X game, and we all know what jewtendo did to it.
And of top of it all you have obnoxious fetishists that start dumping their degenerate porn whenever topic is mentioned effectively putting the last nail into the coffin, just like furries did with walking animals years ago.
So yeah.
Mechs are dead.
fdf20a No.13749787
>>13749607
To put it short it's barely above a 6/10 but there's so few decent games on the genre it's worth pirating
8b03c5 No.13749789
>>13749545
Mecha, yes.
Mechs, no.
8e15eb No.13749794
>>13749607
Also compare code mirai trailer to the PC gameplay.
Console version gets a lot of polish and major voice actors to reprise roles, while PC version, which was crowdfunded and all, doesn't.
So even if you like 3D shmups in general I advice you to not buy it with money and pirate it instead.
b2c2bc No.13749801
Brigador is pretty solid.
8b03c5 No.13749802
>>13749781
>Mechs are dead.
Funny since Living Legends just got a new patch with Argus and Cauldron Born.
b2c2bc No.13749805
>>13749801
just realized that in all but one of those screenshots i'm using a non-mech. Whoops.
fdf20a No.13749818
>>13749802
How's LL doing? They still have at least 1 active server? I had to stop playing when I had to change to a potato isp
8e15eb No.13749825
>>13749802
It's an online arena game released who god knows when.
If you're autistic enough to replay same shit, even if it's good shit, for decades - good for you.
>>13749801
That thing is a fluke. Devs admitted never playing strike or future cop games. I have no idea how it ended up being so not bad.
Lucky shot probably.
d0cb79 No.13749829
>>13749545
Mecha is pretty shit. That tends to be the human garbage.
True mechs are awesome, though.
8b03c5 No.13749833
>>13749818
There's enough people to fill a server or two during eu evening hours and later.
bd8590 No.13749840
I hope Phantom Brigade doesn't suck.
79d30d No.13749854
dc9917 No.13749862
>>13749854
When Armored Core gets ported.
79d30d No.13749864
>>13749862
Armored Core can suck it. Bandai needs to get on the wagon now. I'm not gonna buy a ps4 anymore.
dc9917 No.13749874
>>13749864
I still want ports for 1 through FA though.
8e15eb No.13749880
>>13749864
>>13749854
Look up windom xp. In some ways it's better than Gundam VS.
abf80f No.13750012
>>13749801
Can't recommend this game enough, it hasn't sold that well but the devs are still updating it and show no signs of losing interest, intending to release a map editor in future. The visuals and music/sound are perfect and in terms of the feeling of combat it's the best isometric shooter I've played (others have more gamemodes, content, etc but didn't feel as tight and satisfying). There's a pretty big variety of vehicles and weapons, each vehicle having 2 weapon slots of a given class, with there being 5 weapon classes with 8 weapons each. Then a further choice of equipment with 4 choices. Vehicles vary significantly in size, speed and responsiveness so really do play very differently.
I can see myself playing this regularly for years to come, great little game.
df05c7 No.13750057
>>13749840
that looks like a faggot trying to fit the largest dildo in his ass tbh
bd8590 No.13750063
>>13750012
They dropped an update yesterday that added five new missions and a new vehicle, as well as car horns for all the vehicles.
>Vehicles vary significantly in size, speed and responsiveness so really do play very differently.
Also, playing a mech is completely different compared to playing a hovercraft or a tank, or something like a bike.
>>13750057
It's X-COM with mechs.
df05c7 No.13750088
>>13750063
>it's X with Z
thanks for clearing that up truly without such detailed descriptions I would never actually FEEL what that game is
bd8590 No.13750157
>>13750088
>I would never actually FEEL what that game is
I've worked with retards before, that's why I know the kind of difficulties you face in your daily life.
df05c7 No.13750196
>>13750157
you sure that retard hasn't rubbed off on you? I was being sarcastic you know
43c260 No.13750344
>>13749781
Mechas will be popular again in twenty years.
8e15eb No.13750372
>>13750344
Hopefully I'll live long enough to see that happen.
c7b71a No.13750486
Anyone played War Tech Fighters? Looks like a slower Project Nimbus.
8e15eb No.13750493
>>13750486
>Early Access
Figures I never acknowledged its existence.
Call me when it's actually out.
71fe2d No.13750530
>>13749789
lol no.
there is no difference, the only difference s made by shitty westerners (like you) who think THEIR specific brand of giant robot is "more realistic".
Be it high fantasy machine like Aura battlers, or mobile suits. mecha is the idea that human technology can advance to a point where the tech level is viable to produce something like that.
>>13750057
>That design
>Good
reminder any type of design like that is kill if the legs are taken out due to lack of any type of AMBAC system. Even a Zaku II can reposition itself if it loses a leg and effectively become a giant stationary auto cannon
df05c7 No.13750547
>>13750530
but anon that design has the technology that's advanced to a point where it's viable to produce something like that
bd8590 No.13750557
>>13750530
I just want a good Gundam game that lets me win the war for Zeon. And yes, I know there's Ghiren's Greed, but the faggots making that one wasted all the time and money making Feddie events for the post-OYW period leaving almost nothing for Zeon. How can they miss the point of such a game so badly?
b150fe No.13750565
>>13749829
This.
The only time Japs can come up with an even HALFWAY decent robot is when they are copying from western designs.
Pics related.
d1fac6 No.13750570
>>13749535
Boat + Legs > Tank
df05c7 No.13750580
>>13750570
under the sea > over the sea
43c260 No.13750589
>>13750530
The difference between mecha and mech is arbitrary stupidity. Both of them are just fancy tersm for robots people pilot. Same shit.
6f8e60 No.13750595
I want fast paced mech combat with customizable mechs wielding ranged and melee weapons on a variety of scenarios including but not limited to cities, open ground, underwater, tunnels, and space.
8af055 No.13750631
>>13750565
what do you mean copying from western designs?
The image you posted essentially looks like a clone from a Warhammer 'Mech from the Battletech universe. And Battletech was essentially blatantly copied from Japanese designs at the time, from everything I've read about it. I distinctly remember seeing that reported several times over the years, if you're trying to claim Mech designs were a Western invention I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
af91b4 No.13750639
>>13750631
Japs copy westerners but also outdo the originals. Then the westerners copy the japs and the cycle continues.
78fac5 No.13750988
>>13750570
>>13750580
Why is the Supreme Commander community so autistic?
I love it
df05c7 No.13751003
>>13750988
because collecting mass, building your base, managing production and controlling your army is a alot of finely tuned autism with very little margin of errors allowed tbh
a2ee82 No.13751004
they finally translated the skull stories game
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3159/
now i wait for the do you remember love game
bd8590 No.13751025
>>13751004
Nobody will ever touch Ace Frontier. Why live?
d9036c No.13751058
>armored core will never be as good as it was during silent line/last raven days
why let me live
40f81c No.13751218
>>13749840
>>13750063
>>13750088
It basically is just X-COM with mechs though. Except instead of being invaded by aliens, your country is invaded by some other human fags. There are two parts to the gameplay; management of your squad and then the tactical battles. Movement and actions are both governed by AP, but I'm not familiar enough with X-COM to know if this would be meaningfully different. I believe the dev claimed full ballistics simulatjon, with hits to different parts being able to cause different malfunctions, but from the demos I saw this doesn't include the environment. Or perhaps it just didn't apply to the missiles, which clip through terrain. I asked if they had plans for a combined arms approach to the game and the dev said that while they did not, they plan on shoving some sort of modding support in there.
On the squad management side, you have pilots and mechs. From what I can remember, the level of customization for mechs will be stats crunching and that's about it. You won't be able to add different kinds of chassis with different hardpoints or mounts and you won't have different types of locomotion available. Which is disappointing.
Besides ranks in veterancy or whatever they're calling their experience system, there is a nemesis system between your pilots and the enemies. In the battles, you can either blow the fuck out of enemy mechs, with reduced salvage, or you can disable it and let the pilot eject. The surviving pilot will be able to appear in future battles and be more of a bitch to handle. Killing a pilot affects his surviving squaddies in a similar way, but I am unsure if it's to the same degree.
Also, reminder that the dev team consists of one programmer and three or four artists.
cc53bf No.13751237
>>13749789
In nipland mecha just refers to anything mechanical, because it's literally a shortened form of the word.
df05c7 No.13751256
>>13751218
sounds like it has more depth to it then nu-com tbh
03d24a No.13752004
>>13750547
Man, I so fucking love Mil-Agro combots.
Something about the simple geometric shapes and massive air intakes that makes my blood flow.
Although, nothing quite appeals to me as much as the Jaywalker.
7711d3 No.13752665
I really wish there were more simulator games for mechs. You never get to many games with a cockpit view.
71fe2d No.13752918
>>13750589
Westerners use the term "mech" because to them the entirety of japanese mech is humanoid machines that fly around. Looking at shit like Gundam going from OYW suits all of the suits are basically ground based. none of them can fly under their own power and when they ARE zipping around it's usually in space
>>13752665
Try rise from the ashes for dreamcast. JP version because JP version had a bonus disc with extra stuff including the RX-78-2 beam rifle you could use.
c1b76d No.13753013
there is a translation for front mission 5 for the ps2 emulator. Improves Fm4 in every way.
452759 No.13753588
hi is this the mech thread
71fe2d No.13753623
452759 No.13753638
>>13753623
Problem, Officer Faggot?
452759 No.13753661
Battletech's Space Japs are better than real Japs.
25d18f No.13753676
>>13753588
Chickenwalkers are QTs.
71fe2d No.13753694
>>13753638
Nothing, just funny you mention it when a few of the designs are taken from nip shows like Dougram and Macross.
If you want really nice designs, look at the shit Nagano did for shows like Heavy Metal L-Gaim and five star stories.
452759 No.13753714
>>13753694
>Nothing, just funny you mention it when a few of the designs are taken from nip shows like Dougram and Macross.
A lot of the older (now Unseen) designs were basically purchased by FASA from the Japs. Some of the Reseens look pretty good, others not so much, but there are actually tons of designs that they didn't pinch from the Japanese (and some of these ended up being the best-looking - pic related. MWO is shit but the MWO Cent is a sexy beast, FlyingDebris does good work for the most part)
71fe2d No.13753758
>>13753714
My issue with western mech designs is they're all really boxy. Even nips do box designs a bit nicer. Pic related is from Xabungle, most of the machines in the show use gas engines. Xabungle itself, the titular mecha uses a 16 cylinder engin.
452759 No.13753806
>>13753758
Raven is actually pretty sleek and rounded (the MWO version looks a bit more angular, which kind of ruins it for me. MWLL version looks correct.) But yes, there's a very "chunky" aesthetic going on with a lot of the western designs (it mostly depends on which artist did the illustration I find).
354495 No.13753828
>>13753758
>gas engines
fucking clueless nips, mechs would clearly need diesel engines to power all them hydraulics
452759 No.13753842
>>13753828
Diesel or gas, wouldn't matter. They'd be better off using the engine to generate electricity and making a hybrid power plant. Electric has far better characteristics for this application than simple ICE.
71fe2d No.13753925
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>>13753828
It's silly. Then again Xabungle is a earth that's been fucked so hard by war the original inhabitants of earth are dead. Those left on the moon tried to come back and found the environment had changed so much they couldn't live on the planet and thus enacted a literal breeding program to make a breed of human that could live on the planet and could live on the land.
Entire show is nuts and you don't learn about this till midway where it turns out that once the innocent (whats left of the original strain of mankind) find Civilians (The humans that were made to be able to live on the planet outside domes) that could live life without the help of the innocents, the innocents were to give up the land to the civilians. But of course assholes with power are a thing and instead of it being the guy at the top of the innocent's power structure, it's his right hand man who wants to keep the civilians under the rule of the innocents and the entire show then becomes a sort of war. Civilian vs innocent.
Show's worth a watch. Tomino wrote this show when he was in one of his good moods. so you get silly shit like this
452759 No.13753939
>>13753925
>thumbnail
>You want land? Fuck you! You get bomb! Big bomb!
71fe2d No.13753961
>>13753939
the context of this scene is Jinron's group is close to the final bout at X point where the Kashim is. The weaselly little fuck works under kashim and launches the ICBM at Jinron's group an a attempt to just stop them altogether.
2259c6 No.13754005
>>13753714
I really can't wait until the HG fiasco is fucking done and over with. While MW:O has already been going down the shitter, I still want to see some of the final classic unseens make it to the game so that I can extract their models. If there is one thing that MW:O does do well in, it's the artwork department. I personally can't stand the anorexic look of some of the classic mechs.
452759 No.13754014
>>13754005
A lot of the newer TROs did much better on that, I think. The Timberwolf/Mad Cat is a classic but those legs don't look like they have any myomer bundles or armor to them at all really.
71fe2d No.13754015
>>13754005
IIRC the HG fiasco is over and HG is dead.
2ea56b No.13754023
>>13749521
>How is everyone enjoying Gundam Versus?
I kinda like it, but grinding for GP is impossible outside of multiplayer matches and I'm finding those harder and harder to find in my region of the US…
452759 No.13754026
>>13754015
In pace requiescat. Good riddance. (Now we might actually see more Macross/Robotech shit make it stateside)
2259c6 No.13754055
>>13754015
You sure about that? According to this Jew that studies law it sounds like it is far from over. It's gonna be another 4 years before Harmony Goldbergshekelstein finally loses their rights to the Macross franchise. And according to a fuck up from Tatsunoko Productions during a recent trial, HG apparently has the rights until the trial expires. That means more harassment to HBS and PGI unless they settle before the court date on September 2018.
2259c6 No.13754058
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>>13754055
>>13754015
Derp I forgot the link.
71fe2d No.13754068
>>13754055
alrighty. So 4 more years of ROBOTECH bullshit that will never happen.
ALso if people haven't yet, watch Genesis Climber Mospeada. Good show, was used as part of robotech as the 3rd leg of the series.
452759 No.13754070
>>13754055
I'll be honest there's no love lost between me and PGI/HBS but I do want them to win this. Since Micro$oft owns Battletech now they should be bankrolling the effort to curbstomp HG.
7711d3 No.13754104
Are there any good mech games for the ps4? Isn't there supposed to be a new armored core game coming out in 2018?
2ea56b No.13754112
>>13754104
Gundam Breaker 3 and Gundam Versus are your options as far as action games, while SD Gundam GGeneration Genesis and Super Robot Wars V are for strategy. The SRW people are also making a Full Metal Panic focused game.
2259c6 No.13754133
>>13754070
They need to win this or else HG is going to further IP troll anyone who dares design a mech without their permission. They want a stranglehold on the rights for royalties for any company who dare makes a mech robot. Look at the Transformers/GI Joe case they tried suing Hasbro for. They got curb stomped during that trial and I'm hoping the same happens during the September 2018 trial. I wish a freak earthquake or a natural disaster would hurry up and destroy California already. Maybe based NK nips would nuke them.
7711d3 No.13754151
>>13754112
Isn't gundam Breaker 3 only in Japanese though? Isn't there also a shit ton of dlc or something like that?
2ea56b No.13754155
>>13754151
There's an East Asia version that is in English, and it was re-released a few months back with all the DLC included, called Gundam Breaker 3 Break Edition.
25d18f No.13754165
>>13754155
*Engrish
It's important to note the translations are held to nowhere near the standards you're probably used to.
7711d3 No.13754177
>>13754165
>>13754155
The cheapest I can find a ps4 version of the game is also close to 90 dollars.
2ea56b No.13754183
>>13754165
Yeah, some of the skills are haphazardly translated. It's firmly in between Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers which is nigh unreadable at times, and Super Robot Wars V which could probably be released as is in the US (if not for licensing).
>>13754177
Welcome to importing vidyas.
7711d3 No.13754197
>>13754183
I just hope more gundam games come over here. I would like something more slsoer pace than Gundam Versus though. Something like zeonic front, journey to Jaburo, or Missing link would be nice.
2ea56b No.13754205
>>13754197
Something like action strategy would be nice, yeah. That said it didn't help too much that Gundam Versus got trashed hard in Japan to the point of being 40 bucks within a few weeks of release. It makes me think we're destined to just get the games Bandai Namco isn't confident enough to push solely in Japan.
7711d3 No.13754224
>>13754205
It does seem like that. This gundam versus is ok, but it still falls flat compared to the older ones. Federation vs zeon and Gundam vs zeta gundam still seem more enjoyable with a more paced gameplay. There also used to be more variety of grunt mobile suits outside of a constant stream of gundams.
71fe2d No.13754282
>>13754197
>Not just learning moon to play all the gundam games
2ea56b No.13754300
>>13754282
>Zudah
Good taste.
71fe2d No.13754308
>>13754300
Zudah and Kampfer are my two go to suit for Zero G combat. Feddie suits can't keep up with me and if my Zudah takes too much damage and retreat isn't an options I'll allahu ackbar them by outranging the zudah's engine and trying to ram a group of fed suits with it. The resulting explosion usually gets at least a kill or two
ad5d5a No.13754318
>>13754282
>not going to japen to play gundam
I bet you don't even have trading cards.
71fe2d No.13754322
>>13754318
I have a Zeta Gundam one from my import of SRW V or GB 3, one of the two.
a2ee82 No.13754333
>>13754005
>it's the artwork department.
for me is a hit or miss, mostly miss
ceabb9 No.13754704
>>13751025
Triangle Frontier is better game anyway.
ceabb9 No.13754723
>>13752918
Let idiots be idiots and educate them. Mech and Mecha is the same shit.
>>13753638
Hello there Scopedog ripoff.
ee4d7c No.13754909
>>13753758
My issue with nip mechs are name.
What does "Mazinger" mean? Does it mazing people? Majin is some sorta jap devil, so Mazinger devils people? What the fuck?
Or Getter!
What does it get? Where? Why?
Or Gundam. More like condom lol.
ee4d7c No.13754918
8177a3 No.13754961
>>13754909
the ger in mazinger is, in kana, ga. Ga as a particle in grammar is used to denote the subject of a sentence with special emphasis. So it's emphatically a devil
Getter may have been derived from gettan (first day of the month) or geta (wooden sandals). Or it may have just come from the english phrase "get 'em" or "go-getter"
Gundam…don't know where the dam comes from but the gun part is obvious enough
Why couldn't you bitch about Ideon or Escaflowne or something similarly without possible origin
f7297e No.13755002
>>13754909
Getter was named Getter because its powered by getter rays.
And if I'm remembering it right the creator of Gundam said he named it that because he wanted it to represent power and defence. Gun for power, and dam for defence. Because it blocks water and shit.
cf3927 No.13755034
>>13750639
it started with macross, or super dimension fortress macross. sorry m8 i love ALL things FASA and battletech but it was the japs that put the content out there then Fasa had it and now i think Harmony gold and pirhana games holds rights to different "seen" or unseen mechs
ee4d7c No.13755036
>>13754961
Ideon or Escaflowne sound cool as fuck.
Getter sounds stupid.
Which is weird since Getter itself is cool and Escaflowne sucks ass.
>>13755002
What do those rays get then?
I know fucking lore, it's just a random ass word that sounds dumb.
f7297e No.13755045
>>13754961
"eidolon
ei·do·lon
1. an idealized person or thing.
2.a specter or phantom."
I'm gonna take a guess and say it comes from the word eidolon.
8177a3 No.13755053
>>13754058
if I understand this correctly, the judgement does not cover actual ownership of the Macross franchise internationally, but of the series and characters under their English names.
any Macross series that does not include characters from the original 3 series that went into Robotech should be fair game for dubbing
8177a3 No.13755063
>>13755045
possibly, but it also comes from the freudian concept of the Id
f7297e No.13755084
>>13755036
Maybe it was named after a scientist with the last name of Getter?
Maybe when Getter Emperor shot his rays back in time he also implanted the idea of calling himself getter into the humans in a time-paradoxical sort of way?
0ad716 No.13755118
>>13754917
Does that game have swarm missiles? If it does I'll vote for an honorable mention
2061f5 No.13755190
>>13749607
That shit was fucking repulsively bad when I played it in 2015
Like "frictionless wet soap sliding on infinite bathtile" bad.
Infinite "speed" but no reference points to give you a sense for it, and engagements only being autoaim press 1 button to win bullshit at green boxes that represented enemies far outside of draw distance. Every single shill for this game, all three of you, should kill yourselves.
048e26 No.13755314
>>13755118
Northstar has dumbfire missiles, Tone has guided missiles, and the singleplayer titan has multilock and a quad missile launcher. Viper's just got missile's for days.
That whole "not a mech" interview is still one of the worst interview blunders in an industry filled with them. He might as well have just said "we don't have nor want an audience". It took a lot of love being put into the second game to get back respect.
c0e3a8 No.13755402
>>13755314
You're just playing as a giant dude.
It's not porper mech game interviews or not. Same as Shogo.
It might be a cool shooter, but the point of mech games is to make your robot feel like vehicle, and not just big guy.
048e26 No.13755545
>>13755402
After playing it, I can't agree. In a typical shooter the difference wouldn't matter, but titans play completely differently to pilots and it really does give it a strong mech flavor. If it was just Titans alone it'd be bland, but the whole medley of mechanics that go into it make piloting a titan have a real pleasant feel with how often you'll be jumping in and out. Yeah, it's not mechwarrior, but it's probably the best action-fps mech game out there.
Also, I've never seen anyone actually say what they'd want to be changed about them to make them "real". They have nice boxy huds, a stompy movement, thrusters, weapon arrays, emergency ejections, and can be ridden or grappled. What's the missing ingredient here?
2ea56b No.13755622
>>13755545
>What's the missing ingredient here?
Eroticism.
e36b43 No.13755644
>>13755545
>What's the missing ingredient here?
>If it was just Titans alone it'd be bland
You answered your own fucking question.
If in your mech game it's more fun to be out of the mech instead of being inside of one, they you done fucked up son.
Might as well play fucking call of duty.
>>13755622
I hate you even more than TF shills. Kill yourself.
048e26 No.13756473
>>13755644
Titans are great fun to play as, though. Learning how to counter pilots is one of the more enjoyable aspects, and it's by properly using what the titan offers. It's a constant tug of war between using movement vs using your titan abilities correctly. What I meant is that titans alone wouldn't work near as well because the game is inherently structured around using, losing and dealing with titans. It's extremely rare to finish a match with your first drop, even if you're a great player. Any game would suck if you cut half of the integral mechanics out.
26b2f2 No.13756501
>>13749535
>War Tech Fighters
It has its nice moments, but overall it's kinda mediocre. The part designs are a boring western clusterfuck, camera is really wacky during dogfights against light fighter jets and the controls are not really responsive.
But it has some nice customization, lots of "research" upgrades, not that bad pvp fencing close-quarters fights and the finishing moves' scenes are cheezy and nice.
Basically, don't expect much of it and you will get enough content and fun.
TLDR: 6.7/10
26b2f2 No.13756507
>>13756501
>pvp
Shit, sorry for my autism, every time I write "PvP" I mean 1v1 duels
26b2f2 No.13756614
>>13749880
>>13749854
There's also a Gundam VS mod for Windom XP
71fe2d No.13756857
>>13755084
>Devolution
it's shit
>>13755002
The gundam thing is retarded and should be considered not true until someone pulls out a good interview with Tomino, preferably not a ANN one
>>13754961
You also fucked up Mazinger is pronounced Majinga. A Mazin is a type of demon IIRC.
e87b62 No.13758539
How good is Hawken? My friend raves about it, but it looks like pay to win shit.
71fe2d No.13758560
>>13758539
It's garbage. Played very early in it's life combat is boring. and just generally avoid it at all costs.
c9ecb7 No.13758744
>>13758539
I enjoyed it in its prime, it's dying now though, not worth picking up anymore. Server shutdown in like a month.
1d3269 No.13760134
Isn't a new armored core supposed to come out soon?
282973 No.13760151
>>13755402
>Same as Shogo.
get this hothead out of here!
8996a0 No.13760362
>>13760151
Shogo is shit in general
340fa0 No.13761361
>>13755002
So how long until a dam with a gundam head on it with giant devastating weapons where the vulcans would be shows up? Let's just go full circle on this.
37e3b9 No.13761380
>>13750631
They actually licensed some designs from Macross, but that was only for the very beginning of Battletech, the Clan mechs were all Western designs, and I dare you to find something more iconic.
ceabb9 No.13761397
>>13761380
They licensed designs from various different franchises from second hand company who had no legal rights to license them out.
66885a No.13761959
Any other good real robot games other than Front Mission and Armored Core?
37e3b9 No.13763373
>>13761397
Didn't realize Tatsunoko was a second hand company
e7bffc No.13763411
>>13761959
OG macross games tend to be good, but most of them are in jap, obviously.
84be04 No.13763478
>>13749825
golden BBs are like 2/3 of all good games. just look at the mountains of trash sequels that can't even recreate the core gameplay of the original.
>>13750565
i chuckled
>>13761397
no they actually did have the rights too, but Harmony Gold had toy distribution rights and that's how they sunk FASA, they construed miniatures as toys in the courts.
37e3b9 No.13763491
>>13763478
I will never understand the hatred for the Pirahna redesigns. A lot of the early IS shit was in dire need of redesign because they were just fucking hideous and wouldn't fucking work (Kit Fox, Jenner)
b63c6e No.13763510
>>13749535
>Tank>legs
Go away hotwheels
ceabb9 No.13764745
>>13763478
Miniatures are toys though.
452759 No.13764927
>>13763491
I'm not entirely sure where that hate comes from. I don't hate most of the Piranha redesigns (done by FlyingDebris, actually). I do think the Direwolf/Daishi looks too blimpish even for a 100-ton assault (the concept art did not look nearly that rotund), the Warhawk/Masakari Prime's missile rack is in the wrong spot and makes no sense IMO, the Urbie doesn't really look trash-canny enough but it's not too bad…
Most of my issues with the looks of various mechs stem from the one update where they "standardized" the way hardpoints look with mounted weapons and how it made things scale oddly/fucked with geometry. The rest of them are issues not actually related to the designs themselves but to other closely-related things.
>The Direwolf "prance" walking anim
>The fact that mech feet no longer snap to terrain at ALL (they used to)
>The weird way the Nova/Blackhawk's arms kind of bend inwards from the shoulder joint for no good reason at all and make it look really wonky
15cdbd No.13767614
c1cb7b No.13767652
>>13753694
Nagano's only good designs are the ones that ended up refined for Zeta Gundam and Brain Powered. Everything else is too gaudy or flimsy.
>>13750557
Zeonic Front
>>13754282
>playing shit Gundam games like Gundam Online
At least Battle Operation 2 will be a thing
c1cb7b No.13767655
>>13755402
>You're just playing as a giant dude.
What the fuck do you think mechs are?
5c35c3 No.13767681
>>13749613
I'm not seeing the erotic here.
df05c7 No.13767704
>>13767655
piloted giant robotic machines with bipedal(or more) movement
15cdbd No.13767786
>>13767681
>Robotics
+ Cute
+ Extremely nice
~ Shy
- Easily bashful
- Kinda boring
>Medic
+ Professional
+ Loyal
+ Always there for you
- Stern
- Expects you to pull your weight at all times
>Recon
+ Flirty
+ Playful personality
+ Great in bed
- Wants to be out all the time
- Never appreciates the little things
>Assault
+ Always DTF
+ Is up for basically anything
~ Absolute thot
- Will probably leave you after a month
Which one is your waifu, /v/?
5c35c3 No.13767803
>>13767786
Medic because it was the most fun class in that game.
fdf20a No.13768002
>>13763491
>he prefers mechs made with legos to the original designs
Fuck off, that retard completely changed the art style, and specifically ruined half of the mechs (madcat and dragon for example)
e7bffc No.13768470
>>13767652
>brain powerd
What a shit fucking eva clone it was.
The only redeeming factor was villain being batshit tranny.
Terrible show.
15cdbd No.13770849
>>13768002
>somebody watermarked their photo of a robot toy
afb25a No.13770896
>>13768002
I was going to say no one is upset at the redesigns for the Pgi designs but hey we found that guy. I will admit that I am pissed the remade Nova has a torso, but fuck the old timberwolf noodle arms.
ceabb9 No.13770929
>>13770896
That horizontal shadow-lining is a great way to hide things and not give a single fucks about proper detailing.
1c1cff No.13770956
>>13770896
The noodle arms are part of what makes the Timberwolf. The original design emphasizes the cockpit area, keeping the limbs skinny as not to draw attention away from the central focus of the mech. PGI's redesign makes everything too thick, and the cockpit barely has the emphasis of the original, as a result. The new design just blends together, while the original has a distinctive, iconic silhouette.
ceabb9 No.13770993
>>13770956
The original design also looks fucking terrible, but that's par for the course when it comes to Battletech.
0ad716 No.13770999
>>13770896
I have to admit, gondola nova is growing on me
452759 No.13771145
>>13770896
>wanting a mech that can't torso twist
>especially when torso twisting to spread damage is fucking important
There's being a purist and then there's being a stubborn retard.
2fff6e No.13772411
>>13771145
West can't into mechs.
93c0ee No.13773935
>>13772411
is that a nip mech?
0ef7d2 No.13775439
>>13767786
Medic is clearly the best choice.
970bcb No.13775570
>>13753013
I downloaded it half a decade ago and never played it. I wanted to finish FM4 first, but, damn, it was a let down compared to FM3.
Now that you reminded me, I guess I'll just fire up the ISO and skip FM4 entirely
452759 No.13775641
>>13772411
>dissing the Mauler
It's like you hate dakka or something.
0ef7d2 No.13783375
15cc9e No.13783777
>>13753758
>My issue with western mech designs is they're all really boxy. Even nips do box designs a bit nicer. Pic related is from Xabungle, most of the machines in the show use gas engines. Xabungle itself, the titular mecha uses a 16 cylinder engin.
Ok let's do this.
>Another use for the V16 configuration is in medium-speed Diesel engines. Here, manufacturers tend to work with a common cylinder size across a wide range of engines, and size the engine by the number of cylinders for different power requirements. Thus, many users of medium speed diesel engines such as railroad locomotives use V16 powerplants, including most Electro-Motive Diesel and GE Transportation Systems locomotives. EMD's 16-cylinder two-stroke diesel, with 710 CID per cylinder (hence known as the 16-710), can produce over 4,300 hp (3.2 MW). Engines such as these are also popular for marine applications and for large emergency generator sets (which frequently use available marine engines, since weight is unimportant). GE's four-stroke V16 diesels, the 7FD Series (used in marine, locomotive, and stationary applications), have 668 CID per cylinder and can produce over 4,400 hp (3.3 MW). GE also manufactures the GEVO line of engines; the V16 version, known as the GEVO-16, produces over 6,000 hp (4.47 MW). Some of Wärtsilä’s marine diesel engines are also available in the V16 configuration. The largest of them, the Wärtsilä 46F, produces over 25,700 hp (19.2 MW) at 600 rpm
How much hp or watts does the titular mecha need to run? Because next is to calculate the fuel consumption rate.
820d48 No.13785762
>>13783777
great way to kill the thread faggot
548e75 No.13786118
I've been using a hacked PS2 to go back and play the Armored Core games, which I didn't get to spend much time with in the past. Starting with Armored Core 2, this game is a fucking slog so far. Half these missions are an endless parade of the same dumbass helicopter enemy. I'm tempted to skip the rest of this game and export my 600,000 credit AC into the next installment. I remember Another Age had much more creative mission design.
280b78 No.13787357
>>13754723
> Mech and Mecha is the same shit.
Just like jrpgs and crpgs.
52cc62 No.13787465
>>13786118
> I remember Another Age had much more creative mission design
80% of AA is filler or annoying missions
37e3b9 No.13788056
>>13770849
They painted that model. Watermarking is valid.
71fe2d No.13788166
>>13767652
I've been playing MSGO since it came out of invite only beta years back. Right now the only complaint I have is the shitty ranking system they use.
also
>Not liking the designs from L-Gaim
Good fucking show and good fucking designs.
On the subject of GBO. It's nice in practice but the EN system was fucking retarded and the game was heavily P2W. Will probably skip GBO 2 because you'll need to pay to play online and it will no doubt carry over their microtransaction shop. I wish they'd take the concept of GBO but apply it on the scale of MSGO.
71fe2d No.13788187
>>13783777
I have no clue. Xabungle never went in depth and the thing is the innocent, the people who designed the machines used by the civilians (people LIke Jinron and his friends) kept that shit a close secret.
More or less the innocent in Xabungle treated the civilians like test subjects, which they were. The civilians were a selectively bred race of human meant to survive in the much harsher climates of the now heavily ravaged earth. But going back to that gotta remember Xabungle was made in the 80s so in terms of engine design scale it back a few years from what you have. Looking at MAHQ there are no entries from Xabungle sadly. Dunno if they ever made any data sheets
37e3b9 No.13791733
>>13754723
Mecha treats machnes like they're somehow psychically controlled suits.
Mechs are massive fucking machines controlled with throttle and yoke, and operate like fucking tanks.
878c04 No.13791808
>>13786118
>>13787465
Jump straight to 3.
>>13791733
You're making this up aren't you? Or maybe you're confusing real robots with super robots?
0b9135 No.13793213
0ef7d2 No.13793382
>>13791808
Why does that look like the cover of some kind bara hentai?
22504d No.13793814
>>13783777
>Taking Xabungle more seriously than it takes itself
It's a comedy. Half the fucking show is Looney Tunes-tier.
Forget about engines and fuel consumption, first try figuring out how they operate the fucking things using nothing but a steering wheel and gas pedals.
7711d3 No.13805053
Is Gundam Vs dead or something? It is hard to get any matches, and the ones you do get will DC if they are losing or get paired up with a specific suit. A lot of people also just pick the meta suits rather than anything else, so you just constantly see the same thing over and over again.
d9cb85 No.13805887
>>13786118
I ditched AC2, but I kept AC3. Haven't played it i forever but I remember it feeling a little more like the original than AC2 did. Also, this thread needs to get more RAD.
8b210d No.13805919
>>13771145
>needing to spread damage
git gud
705a3e No.13806166
>ctrlf+f
>Armored core
>8 matches
fuck you guys, I'm out.
7711d3 No.13806256
>>13806166
There really needs to be another armored core game. Armored Core V felt kind of rushed.
f55beb No.13806332
>>13806166
Fucking opening image is from Armored Core.
>>13751058
>you can't play LR in both full HD and 60 fps
>PS2 version doesn't scale up in emulator
>PSP version runs at 30 fps
It's a living nightmare tbh. To add insult to the injury it plays with KB+M surprisingly well.
c90509 No.13806385
>>13805919
Just stand there and git hit in ct/head?
7142bb No.13806388
>>13806256
They were working on it for about five years, anon. My guess is that attempting to do multiplayer the way they did was a bigger challenge than they thought, especially given some of the things that they did. Some of the systems they included are really good, like having actual firing arcs, and how kinetic weapon damage would drop off at longer ranges. I didn't like the movement system or armor system that much, though. I think they could justify the different weapon types well enough in single player if they brought back some of the crazy shit like giant bugs.
598f37 No.13806475
>>13806166
Come back after I upgrade my toaster, the PS2 emulator is really demanding for specs. Otherwise I'm just playing mech games I missed.
fdf20a No.13806537
>>13770896
>fuck the old timberwolf noodle arms.
NO, FUCK YOU
7711d3 No.13806557
With battle operation 2 coming out, do you think there will finally be a US release? It seems possible since they brought Gundam Vs over.
cc2076 No.13810797
>game censored so hard it's censored out of people's minds
71fe2d No.13810899
>>13793814
Hey, they use gear shifts
71fe2d No.13810931
>>13793213
You mean like Gundam :^)
You're confusing shit like Mazinger Z with shit like Dougram or Vifam. Even in the original MSG you had none of that shit. Most you got was the Gundam "Jumping good" on earth because the thrust output it had was just that beastly even Garma Zabi thought the damn thing was capable of flight. The best MS tech got during the OYW was the Dom and it's ability to hover over terrain.
It wasn't until zeta gundam you saw MS with the ability to fly under their own power and even then it was very limited. Even the Asshimar was only capable of flight under it's own power thanks to a combination of breakthroughs in MS tech like the moveable frame that the Gundam Mk II was a test bed of. The only suits I can remember in 0088 that were capable of flight under their own power were
>Gaplant
>Asshimar
>Methuss (debatable, we never see it operate in earth's atmosphere. Inside a colony at best)
>Zeta Gundam
When you get into Shit like Getter and Mazinger you get into the real of super science and stuff like that. I mean Getter is able to change size and mass during transformation. It's never really touched on but it's there and you're left to guess how it's done.
693cd1 No.13810993
>>13810931
> It's never really touched on
Getter rays yo.
Getter can become size of the planet if he eats enough of them, so yeah it kinda explains everything it can do.
f71831 No.13811053
>>13749840
Does this have any connection to Phantom Crash?
10b09e No.13814069
89f2aa No.13817309
The amount of grunt suits in Gundam Vs is pretty small. Are they adding any more?
0adeaa No.13819086
>>13817309
I wouldn't have thought they would, but it was a surprise they put in as many as they did, the franchise had really moved towards only having main characters. The DLC does seem focused on adding more secondary characters and the latest announcement is adding Mudrock and a Zaku 1 from Zeonic Front, so maybe more game characters, which will likely mean more grunts.
If you play the older ps2 games they have truckloads of suits.
6c042c No.13819170
>Never liked Wing when it was on Toonami
>Thought 79 was the shit, Zeon did nothing wrong
>Find pic related in the video store
>Enjoy the hell out of it even though I couldn't get into tactics back then
>Find it again recently, buy it immediately
Easier than I remember but still soild overall.
71fe2d No.13819409
>>13810993
Well that's only touched on with shin and G touches on it. Before that Getter rays are seen as a new clean energy source surpassing nuclear energy. The implications come later. The heaviest implications come in the Shin Getter manga when Getter Dragon, piloted by Benkei goes critical. But not in the Musashi way.
>>13817309
Should've bought FULL BOOST.
>>13819170
Zeon did something wrong They followed Ghiren instead of it's rightful heir
f28f3e No.13820281
>>13819409
At least all of that is canon written by the man itself.
Japan was always tsundere towards radiation after nukes, so getter rays are clearly radiation 2.0.
a2eb09 No.13821178
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>>13806166
I've never even seen that boss before in all my years of watching armored core games. I guess last raven was one of the ones I couldn't play on the emulator without using software mode and it looked terrible.
02f08e No.13821662
>>13749825
Twin stick shooters aren't hard to design, man.
09d8c9 No.13822787
Going to dump Mech related webms. Please stand by.
09d8c9 No.13822836
Sorry got distracted by a trap in the gamenight thread, resuming mech dump.
485f8c No.13822889
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>>13822797
>>13822800
>>13822824
My nigger, Patlabor 2 is a masterpiece.
09d8c9 No.13822910
>>13822889
Wish I had my discs somewhere I need to rewatch it sometime as I don't remember much honestly
485f8c No.13822922
>>13822910
You've got torrents my nigger
09d8c9 No.13822941
>>13822922
Aye but I am a disc autist
Still time to rewatch EVERYTHING
a2eb09 No.13823258
>>13822807
What media is the Zaku desert fight from? I have watched MS Igloo and know that isn't it, but the cgi is very similar.
09d8c9 No.13823272
>>13823258
Then you clearly haven't watched all of MS Igloo cause it literally is from the first series of MS Igloo. Second episode to be exact.
a2eb09 No.13823362
>>13823272
Well damnit, I thought I did a while back. Think it was the 3rd installment then or something, it was almost entirely in Space on a battleship. I'll have to go fetch it thanks.
09d8c9 No.13825390
>>13823362
>Think it was the 3rd installment then or something
I am a little concerned now anon, there is MS Igloo which has 6 episodes focused around the crew of a Zeon transport testing experimental weapons and then MS Igloo 2 which has 3 episodes focused around Fedcucks and a theme about there being a "God of Death"
767a6a No.13825433
>>13825390
Igloo WAS released in 3 installments, 3 episodes each and a couple of years apart from one another.
MS IGLOO:The Hidden One Year War
>Big Ass Space Cannon.
>Feddies in Zakus
>The Zudah (or what happens when you go 3 times as fast without painting it red)
MS IGLOO:Apocalypse 0079
>Sky Z'gok
>Uggos and Red head chicks younger brother 2 parter.
And MS IGLOO 2: The Gravity Front
>Tanks vs Zakus.
>Zaku vs Tanks.
>Guntanks.
89f2aa No.13826893
>>13819086
I have the older ps2 games, and that is why I am kind of disappointed at the lack of grunt suits. I just want to play as some of the aquatic mobile suits. Acguy a best
8da084 No.13828501
I wonder if battle operation 2 will have a campaign mode instead of just being a simple freemium multiplayer game
8da084 No.13828524
i really want a new gundam cockpit simulator.
the last one that they made was operation troy on xbox360 (japan only) and it was a shame because you could freely switch to 3rd person with a wider fov and the cockpit view became a mostly useless novelty. at least they made unique cockpits for every unit.
c3d5be No.13828535
>>13828501
I know it is supposed to be like the first one with slower gameplay compared to NEXT. I heard rumors that it will come to the U.S., but I am not sure if it will have that freemium bullshit. I hope it does not since it was fucking retarded in the first game.
1ba572 No.13828572
WHERE IS ARMORED CORE 6 FROMSOFT
09d8c9 No.13828825
>>13828572
No idea but here is something else Fromsoft that will cause screeching.
f71831 No.13829251
>>13828825
Who the fuck would elect someone called Gormit Sin to be a President of anything?
09d8c9 No.13829271
>>13829251
Same people who would vote for Shillary Clinton
c9ecb7 No.13829371
>>13828841
It still hurts.
8da084 No.13830099
>tfw i have steel battalion line of contact but can't get anyone together for a multiplayer match on xlink anymore
09d8c9 No.13831394
So Mechwarrior gamenight coming soon anons.
00e39e No.13836215
That Dual Gear game looks pretty good, but a lot of the customization does not seem to have drastic changes on appearance in the trailer.
Gundam models have become an addiction. I planned on only getting one, but I soon dropped like 200 dollars getting a whole set to set up some autistic battle scene.
37e3b9 No.13836411
>>13754070
The irony is HG has basically jewed themselves into a corner, suing people over rights
THEY NEVER FUCKING HELD
Even after this lawsuit, even if they win, once the truth hits public record, they're fucked. They chummed the water themselves.
89f2aa No.13845387
>>13822836
How is project Nimbus?
73137c No.13853216
>>13828825
>tfw never got to play Steel Battalion
>tfw likely never will
31ca1b No.13853249
I only dig RTS with mechs. any first person mech game is hard af to play. I tried the first two Mechwarrior games (the DOS versions) and the new one, and its too much multitasking bs.
0b9f43 No.13853660
>>13853249
You still have MechCOMMANDER 1 and 2.
382b30 No.13853689
>>13845387
It's a glorified shmup.
31ca1b No.13853724
>>13853660
you know I'm gonna look those up rn.
31ca1b No.13853727
wait, looking at the screenshots I think I've played this before. it was hard as usual
31ca1b No.13853729
btw was there such a game called Mech Assault? or is my dude lyin'?
382b30 No.13853738
>>13853724
Mechcom2 is fucking gold.
Haven't played 1st one, but you probably should play it first. I remember being confused at the start of the sequel.
>>13853729
It's an Xbox exclusive. You can't emulate it I think.
f79cbd No.13857871
>>13828841
>used to play a ton of chromehounds back in the day
>join up with a pack and we have a great time every saturday
>pack leader organizes a scrim against another pack, some unknowns i've never heard of but they're pretty good
>we beat them in the first round
>they beat us in the second
>before the last round, the leader says in voice chat "we need to unleash our secret weapon. everyone, choose your best hound"
>round starts
>we have all, with no rehearsal or any idea that anyone else has done the same, chosen small wheeled hounds with like one weapon
>we spend the entire round just zooming around the map making vroom vroom noises
god i miss that game
b85cd4 No.13858580
>>13857871
>played with some random faggots
>werent serious but we did pretty good
I miss my rocketpod defender. I did pretty good at the game and we would do pretty good against randoms and AI. Unless its was the white knights, fuck those hounds. Wonderbread was pretty hard to fight too.
c6fb6f No.13862738
>tfw no good games that let me play as or with a giant robot waifu
09d8c9 No.13865930
>>13857871
I remember taking on the Sal Kar secret weapon solo in that game as nobody felt they could win against it. Kept pounding away at it but it seemed like I was going to run out of ammo, then my final salvo caused the thing to explode.
41ad20 No.13866199
>>13862738
Titanfall 2
Zone of the Enders
c9ecb7 No.13867534
>>13865930
My group and I all went against it together and won, and after that we just found ways to cheese it. Most efficient and easy way to solo it we found was to make a hound with spacers off to one side with a bunch of artillery, load incendiary rounds, and take cover behind a COMBAS or something and just fire incendiaries into it, they do damage over time to it and will kill it more efficiently than just about anything else.
We grinded it for all it was worth solo after getting one "authentic" victory.
84be04 No.13869040
>>13853738
they're both stand-alone. the first one is clan invasion, on a single planet. second is FedCom civil war. first one drools atmosphere, like a Tiberian Sun.
09d8c9 No.13869126
>>13869040
First one is actually Operation Bulldog which is an InnerSphere counterattack against Clan Smoke Jaguar set during the same time as Mechwarrior 3. Then there's an expansion pack set post Bulldog against renegade Smoke Jaguars.
I remember capturing a Mad Cat early in the campaign which just made the only campaign a cakewalk. One thing Mechcommander did well was stress the importance of salvage but also showed how powerful Clan tech really was. Mechcommander 2 especially was good at portraying the impact Clan tech could have on the battlefield. When you have to face a whole company of Steiner Assault mechs but field a lance of Blood Asps, now that was fun