807469 No.13746241
Its come to my attention that Onimusha was practically the Dark Souls before Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Bloodborne, and Nioh. I didn't really realize it until i started playing it again recently in an emulator. So why does everyone refer to games as Dark Souls clones, instead of Onimusha Clones, when Onimusha did it first? Was there an even earlier example of a dodge and strike game that relied upon collecting souls? I was so young in the early 90's I don't even remember as I wasn't allowed to play anything but Sonic until like 1998.
163310 No.13746251
Because dark souls was the one that got the most popular. Also I predict nothing but shitposting to occur in this thread.
807469 No.13746262
>>13746251
But my real question is, are there any games before Onimusha to do this?
163310 No.13746271
>>13746262
Probably. The formula of "hard dodge and strike" is extremely general.
099b51 No.13746272
>>13746241
>comparing onimusha with dark souls
807469 No.13746273
>>13746271
Nono, specifically collecting souls, dodging, timing hits, and it has to be in 3D.
807469 No.13746281
>>13746272
You really are a jaded piece of shit if you can't notice the glaring similarities.
f39394 No.13746288
Is Onimusha the Dark Souls of Resident Evil?
163310 No.13746297
>>13746273
I don't know, but it seems the shitposters have caught wind, so good luck OP.
ef6e49 No.13746301
>>13746281
and you aren't even trying with this shit anymore
807469 No.13746309
>>13746288
Resident Evil doesnt coun't because you don't collect Souls and you mostly use guns. Devil May Cry is too stylish to count and really is its own genre. I'm talking slow awkward timed combat with the focus of dodging, striking, and collecting souls, leveling up, and saving at magic mirrors, shrines, bonfires etc.
807469 No.13746317
>>13746301
Demons=Demons
Magic Mirrors=Bonfires, Shrines
Souls=Souls
Precision Combat=Precision Combat
Lockon Combat=Lock on Combat
Dodging/Blocking=Dodging,Blocking Rolling
Puzzles=Puzzles
d7809a No.13746319
>Resident Evil with swords is "Dark Souls before Dark Souls"
I think you mean Demons' Souls.
I think you mean King's Field.
807469 No.13746326
>>13746319
What's king's field? Maybe I'll give that a go too.
6bcdfb No.13746337
Those are some nice souls you're collecting.
b1f8bf No.13746338
>>13746326
Morrowind before Morrowind
807469 No.13746345
>>13746332
Nah that's in first person, i wouldn't say it counts. I'm talking specifically 3rd person 3D combat, that involves dodging, rolling, lockon combat collecting souls, savepoints, etc.
29bfa7 No.13746347
>Dark Souls before Dark Souls
>NOT King's Field, the game that introduced mechanics like Estus and characters like the crestfallen warrior
>>13746288
Dark Souls is the Evangelion of anime
6bcdfb No.13746349
>>13746337
Would be a shame if someone took them all.
493ff7 No.13746356
Onimusha is resident evil, how can it be dark souls nigger
807469 No.13746358
>>13746349
>>13746337
STOP IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Bust seriously those guys arent as bad as the fucking archers that pick you off while you're trying to fight a boss.
e7e4a2 No.13746364
>ctrl+f gothic
>phrase not found
Subhumans.
ef6e49 No.13746365
>>13746338
>not Arcade Flight Simulator before Ace Combat
Also roll for your fap
39d7ad No.13746370
>>13746347
That's a very cute Marisa.
807469 No.13746371
>>13746356
When I think Resident Evil, I think Re4, every game before that was practically Silent Hill with a zombie skin. Besides it can't be Resident Evil if you're fighting demons, then it would be Devil May Cry (i.e. resident evil with demons)
807469 No.13746384
>>13746371
Therefore its closer to Devil May Cry than Resident Evil, but ultimately Devil May Cry is just mechanically different and therefore its own genre.
1102c6 No.13746390
>>13746371
>>13746384
That's some top tier autism op.
755e5b No.13746391
You stupid motherfuckers. All of you.
1102c6 No.13746398
>>13746391
Sadly OP's autism won't let him accept that game, as you don't collect soul-like objects after defeating enemies, which is necessary for him to recognize a game as being soul-like.
29bfa7 No.13746403
>>13746370
Every Marisa is very cute.
f959a1 No.13746407
Onimusha was literally Resident Evil with swords
807469 No.13746409
>>13746391
This game looks like what im talking about, except for the soul collecting. Tell me are there save points, or can you just save anywhere? How do you level up?
>>13746398
This guy is a moron.
aa454d No.13746411
But anon. Onimusha is much more forgiving than Dark Souls, at least regarding wasted time.
f959a1 No.13746414
>>13746391
You are too optimistic if you think nu/v/ played that
ef6e49 No.13746419
>>13746391
>responding to obvious bait threads with anything except mockery for OP's insatiable lust for dick
>bumping obvious bait threads
come on man
807469 No.13746426
>>13746411
>forgiving
If anything its harder because of the fucked up camera angles and tight spaces, there are no introductory builds, and there are only 3 swords, and very limited stat distribution.
361135 No.13746430
Is Nioh the Onimusha of Dark Souls or the Dark Souls of Onimusha?
aa454d No.13746434
>>13746426
But when you die you don't lose all your points and don't get retarded debufs that make you easier to die.
At least in Demons Souls.
755e5b No.13746437
>>13746430
It's clearly inspired by both, though I imagine games featuring samurai fighting demons aren't exactly in short supply.
29bfa7 No.13746438
>>13746430
It's the Samurai Champloo of Zelda.
807469 No.13746445
Onimusha is Onimusha, but Dark Souls very clearly took inspiration from it. Nioh is probably a modern return to form, with a little Ninja Gaiden added in for fair measure.
3012da No.13746460
>>13746241
>Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Bloodborne, and Nioh.
Nioh shouldn't really be lumped in with those games as if they're the same thing. It only plays like a Souls game if you don't take advantage of any of the unique mechanics it encourages you to play around with (ki pulsing, stance switching, combining the two, customisable movesets, depriving enemies of their stamina, Living Weapon essentially being a pseudo-Devil Trigger, etc). It's also a lot faster than any of them.
The influence is clearly there, but the similarities between Nioh and the Souls games are mostly superficial things like HUD layout and position of the camera when you lock on.
807469 No.13746475
>>13746460
So its more like Ninja Gaiden then?
That's what I assumed from the gameplay I saw, like a wonky mix of Ninja Gaiden with Dark Souls sprinkled in.
33b684 No.13746480
>>13746345
ocarina of time and xbox ninja gayden
807469 No.13746486
>>13746480
Oh shit im an idiot, I forgot about Zelda.
807469 No.13746500
How the fuck is this possible?
bb64a0 No.13746513
>>13746391
That game was great. Although the knights stage was probably the best starting stage with all of the tricks and traps.
7416bf No.13746516
>Onimusha was Dark Souls before Demon Souls etc
>not Otogi
For fuck's sake it even has the Moonlight Sword, is made by From and you collect souls in it.
807469 No.13746526
>>13746516
>no Otogi PC port or Emulation
Just fucking kill me
3012da No.13746527
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>>13746475
Kind of. Think a bit of Demon's/Dark Souls, a bit of Ninja Gaiden and a loot system similar to Diablo. You can juggle enemies like in NG as well but it's more difficult to do. Check out embed related, it's beta footage but it's mostly similar still.
807469 No.13746543
>>13746527
Theres no Jumping right?
83ef48 No.13746556
>>13746500
1. autism
2. prerecorded gameplay and he's just mashing closely enough to be convincing
755e5b No.13746557
>>13746526
I could give less of a shit about 360 emulation, but I hope the two XBox emulators currently being worked on come through.
3012da No.13746622
>>13746543
Yeah, there's no dedicated jump button, but there are moves for every type of weapon that allow you to jump. The jumping moves for the spear and kusarigama (embed related) in particular let you jump quite high.
Embed related also shows that enemies can juggle you if they hit you while in mid-air, which is another difference from the Souls games. In general, enemies in Nioh play by the same rules the player does a lot more closely than enemies in the Souls series do.
d8af36 No.13746632
Pong was Dark Souls before Dark Souls, because it was dark and you collect souls (points) and can dodge by moving the paddle up
807469 No.13746639
>>13746622
I have a pertinient question, with the skins, can you also wear different clothing and armor? Or is it just basically like Way of the Samurai with a wearable model?
8c9683 No.13746649
what's the dark souls of 8bit video games?
d82e0b No.13746650
>>13746241
Oni Musha was just Resident Evil with katanas.
0fb7d9 No.13746661
>>13746649
I already said Zelda II, holy crap do kids even read threads anymore?
088cff No.13746662
>>13746241
Guess it depends on what defines the Souls-like experience. Personally, I always thought it was the build making, multiplayer components, bloodstain and the constant auto-saving that makes you live with some decisions like spending items or attacking NPCs (though there's ways to mend this, it's not immediately apparent) are what made it unique.
Onimusha 3 is one of my favorite PS2 titles with a surprising amount of depth to its combat as well as a shit ton of extras. It's one HD collection I'd probably goy for (provided it came with dual audio and, preferably, uncensored) but Capcom decided to ignore the series. The incredibly disappointing Dawn of Dreams was too ambitious for its current gen and showed the series needed to make the jump but with nuCapcom, I'd rather just plug the PS2 and play the ones I have.
>>13746358
Archers in these games are evil. Fuckers will hold a arrow for as long as it takes for you to press a button; blatant input reading bullshit.
Still, what about those little fuckers flying out of reach and casting those binding spells that circle you for a goddamned hour?
8c9683 No.13746670
>>13746661
threads are the dark souls of reading
807469 No.13746680
I wish the retards saying it was resident evil with katanas would fuck off, there was very little if any physical combat in resident evil and the combat was completely different.
56a7e8 No.13746716
>>13746241
Shit thread aside, I fucking played the shit out of the first Onimusha game. Was one of the first games I got for PS2.
3012da No.13746724
>>13746639
The skins are wearable models, but it changes voice clips and animations too.
361135 No.13746733
>>13746670
katanas are the dark souls of guns
3dc093 No.13746788
King's Field was Dark Souls before Dark Souls. Miyazaki himself even said that what he laid down in King's Field was the foundation for Dark Souls, which is bascially a combination of all the original ideas from King's Field and Shadow Tower but added a different leveling mechanic and dodging in a third person combat. Even the basics combat and non-linear progression is the same.
>onimusha is the dark souls before dark souls
It's literally Resident Evil in feudal Japan but uses "demon souls" as experience. Oh I see, it's the same because it has "Demon Souls". What a faggot.
I guess this is what it's like being born in 1999.
3dc093 No.13746799
>>13746788
also I'm so sick and tired of this fucking "x is like dark souls" meme. Fuck off with this shit already.
807469 No.13746802
>>13746716
I love it, its one of the many weebgames I have.
Weeb Games:
-Shenmue
-Shenmue 2
-Yakuza 1
-Yakuza 2
-Tenchu 1
-Tenchu 2
-Tenchu 3
-Tenchu Shadow Assasins (4)
-Tenchu Time of the Assassins
-Blood Will Tell
-Chulip
-Aragami
-M&B gekokujo(suguroku)
-Way of the Samurai 1
-Way of the Samurai 2
-Way of the Samurai 3
-Way of the Samurai 4
-Shadow Tactics
-Shinobi
-Bujingai: The Forsaken City
-Onimusha
-Onimusha 2
-Onimusha 3
-Onimusha Dawn of Dreams(4)
-Nioh
Set in Japan:
-Hitman(2016)
-Hitman Blood Money
-Tokyo42
Chinaboo Games:
-Sleeping Dogs
-Jade Empire
807469 No.13746813
>>13746788
>1999
1993 actually
>>13746799
But it literally is like Dark Souls, not because its difficult, but because of the glaring gameplay similarities. So is Zelda now that I think about it.
7943f3 No.13746821
>>13746799
This shit's fucking bait at this point, it spawned from the headline of a clickbait article.
>I guess this is what it's like being born literally retarded
Sure.
56a7e8 No.13746823
>>13746802
Fucking loved Tenchu Wrath of Heaven. Getting to play the doctor/assassin who jams needles into people's skulls was awesome.
807469 No.13746835
>>13746823
He was a buddhist monk, not a doctor
5bb83b No.13746917
>>13746365
rolling this shit
1d2d95 No.13746953
Is Dark Souls the Grand Turismo of fighting games?
2c2176 No.13747191
Onimusha was the Dark Souls of Soul Blazer
a11115 No.13747243
5bf766 No.13747275
>>13746241
>So why does everyone refer to games as Dark Souls clones, instead of Onimusha Clones, when Onimusha did it first?
because its not anything like Dark Souls you fucking retard.
8c9683 No.13747284
>>13747275
dark souls is the dark souls of game similarities
807469 No.13747312
465453 No.13747324
>>13746241
Dark Souls is 3D Zelda without the training wheels and Metroidvania level design.
5bf766 No.13747337
>>13746661
>>13746567
>saving low quality thumbnails of Katsuya Terada work
shame on you
807469 No.13747348
>>13747324
I agree with this, it was stupid of me to forget Zelda. Is it too late to just make the thread about Onimusha, instead of arguing whether or not it it has similarities to Dark Souls?
7416bf No.13747358
>>13747348
Yes, way too late.
Either start lurking more or just fucking leave entirely.
807469 No.13747396
>>13747385
>1st person
I don't care if its from From Software, it looks like a bad daggerfall. Onimusha resembles darksouls more than this shit.
7416bf No.13747410
>>13747396
>OP gets BTFO repeatedly both here and in the now deleted thread he made earlier
>starts getting salty after the other thread was deleted
Why you haven't been banned yet for being a fucking neofag refugee is the million dollar question.
807469 No.13747419
>>13747410
>neofag refugee
Except i've never been to Neogaf in my life and hate them for being liberal faggot sjws, so stop being a tryhard and either contribute to the discussion or fuck off.
07850c No.13747449
>>13746337
I love those things once you can reliably kill them, because they increase the amount of souls.
807469 No.13747518
>>13747449
Yeah but most of the time they just dissapear before I can kill them
6bcdfb No.13747544
>>13747518
Like right now?
04bd13 No.13747592
>>13747396
daggerfall is already a bad daggerfall. the kingsfield games are mostly combat oriented ultima underworld.
if your reference for first person fantasy games is the elder scrolls, you really need to kill yourself
807469 No.13747606
3bdb25 No.13747634
>>13747592
>if your reference for first person fantasy games is the elder scrolls, you really need to kill yourself
Didn't Elder Scrolls come directly after Ultima Underworld? I never much cared about first person melee, so I don't know much about the genre, but I thought Elder Scrolls sprang into existence immediately after UU2 and were the only games in the genre for a long time.
ceff3c No.13747641
Destiny is the Dark Souls of cumskins getting btfo!
bbf0d4 No.13747646
Just like people thought all the fruit games were a fruit ninja clone when in reality fruit ninja was a shitty fruit slice clone. A game made earlier and still better. But fruit ninja got famous instead.
c41691 No.13747663
3b36de No.13747693
>Dark Souls before Dark Souls
>Ignoring the existence of Demon Souls
>Ignoring the existence of King's Field
>Ignoring the existence of Shadow Tower.
I am surrounded by Children.
afd722 No.13747701
Onimusha came out before 2007.
299e99 No.13747734
>>13747693
>>13747689
OP is a cuckchanner
He even made a second thread to prove it
e91662 No.13747839
Dark Souls came out at the right time. Years of casualized games meant DaS would stand out big time against the rest.
ff2953 No.13747844
>>13747641
>cumskins
>>>somethingawful
3b62d1 No.13747918
>>13746475
>>13746527
I always feel very slightly upset when I hear people talking about Ninja Gaiden and realize they aren't talking about pic related.
I'm not certain why.
0bed8a No.13748062
>>13746513
That's really one of the downfalls of the game, the knight feels like the only really polished and 'complete' character, whereas all the others are a bit lacking in some way or another, although the barbarian isn't far behind the knight.
b4aeeb No.13748081
Is Dark Souls the Dark Souls of Dark Souls?
99909f No.13748674
>>13746788
I don't think Miyazaki had anything to do with King's Field… IIRC he did draw inspirations for Dark Souls from playing King's Field.
216d55 No.13748704
>onimusha is the dark souls of pre-dark souls dark souls
<mfw this is a valid sentence in current year
b3894b No.13748734
>>13748674
Miyazaki played the King's Field games when he was younger and it was one of the reasons he applied to work at FromSoftware in the first place. Demon's Souls also started out as a formal King's Field reboot (in the same vein as Shadow Tower) before Miyazaki was handed the project.
04bd13 No.13750139
>>13747634
>long time
kings field 1 came out the same year as arena. Arena was terrible. Daggerfall was terrible. """""""'people""""""" like morrowind and since then think the elder scrolls is the only game of its type.
a79e2d No.13750384
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d08c92 No.13750461
>>13750384
Mario Party Advance
229fbe No.13750470
>>13747693
King's Field was nips pathetic attempt to rip off Elder Scrolls
04bd13 No.13750474
>>13750470
this is the reddit race in action
229fbe No.13750475
>>13746526
i have a xbot 3shitty and never heard of it
229fbe No.13750489
>>13750474
deal with it nerd, even shadow tower was shit. king's Field is pure garbage.
04bd13 No.13750491
>>13750489
im so happy the elder scrolls invented the first person fantasy game, truly todd howards revolutionary vision the game industry never deserved
229fbe No.13750498
>>13750491
you can bitch and moan all you want nerd, as shitty as elder scrolls is, nips tried to rip it off
04bd13 No.13750502
>>13750498
yeah, its not like the elder scrolls started as a ripoff of a far better game from far better developers, no way. you retard.
3bf90a No.13750520
>>13750384
Is /v/ the dark souls of image boards?
807469 No.13750528
>>13750520
Yes unfortunately…
1c6156 No.13750998
>>13746241
It's not the gameplay that made Dark Souls popular, it's the superior western themes.
9ae30f No.13751048
>People literally comparing Feudal Japanese Resident Evil to Dork Souls because you collect souls of enemies and roll around.
Woah OP is Ninja Gaiden the Dork Souls of action games now?
>Collect Essence from Enemies
>Roll and shit during combat
>Sup3r haRdc0re
>Has save points
Why do people need to compare everything to fucking Dark Souls? How do good games draw out the faggotry from within the hearts of men.
99909f No.13752419
>>13747918
>I'm not certain why.
The fuck is wrong with you?
fa18a0 No.13753063
>>13747641
>cumskins
Nigger detected
094a4d No.13753087
>>13746371
>When I think Resident Evil, I think Re4,
Anon, if you're going to communicate with other humans, you have to speak in terms strictly as they're used and not just assume everyone can read your mind, or you'll just look like a big idiot.
094a4d No.13753101
>>13750139
Daggerfall had a god tier dungeon generator. I wish there were more games which were inspired by that.
65d865 No.13753158
>>13746802
>No Tenchu Z
>No Shinobido: Mark of the Ninja
>No Red Ninja
>No Yakua 3, 4 and 5
Fix this right now
299305 No.13753369
>>13746241
OP its called Action Adventure. Demon Souls only got famous, because it was the only not shit Action Adventure Game after a long drought.
I know its hard to imagine for young gamers, but we used to have several franchise of Action Adventure Games on all platforms that had the same production quality of the Souls Series.
807469 No.13753619
>>13753158
>Tenchu Z
Can't be emulated
>Shinobido
Fuck I forgot
>Mark of the Ninja
Kill Yourself
>Red Ninja
Its a bad game…
>Yakuza 3,4,5
Can't be Emulated
f618f4 No.13753698
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>Nobody mentioned Soul of the Samurai
3dc093 No.13753950
>>13750470
>being so young and so gay that you cant realzie that King's Field is the Japanese version of Wizardry
>ripping of elder scrolls when it came out the same year
I mean people on this board are retarded but I had no fucking idea where these idiots come from. Jesus Christ man you are even making OP look better
1e1e54 No.13756252
>>13747844
>>13753063
Dodged that joke really well
ae1901 No.13758380
>>13753950
How can King's Field be the japanese version of wizardry when nips have developed their own Wizardry games? Also, it's nothing like Wizardry, like not even remotely.
1faece No.13758433
>>13758380
Just call it the Dark Souls™ of Wizardry-Likes™.
7515e8 No.13765825
>>13746391
God bless you, boy.
ebb435 No.13765861
>>13746407
Was the best of the games born from RE4s prototypes.
PC port never ever.
0daed2 No.13765909
What
The
Helll
Is FROM software up to right now?
a67531 No.13765944
Dark Souls before Dark souls is Rune you twats.
ebb435 No.13765954
>>13765909
They're planning some new game and making Armored Core 6
50912b No.13766064
>>13765861
>PC port never ever.
THe third one got a shit-ass port, though.
c638a9 No.13766120
>>13765954
Don't play with my heart like that, Anon, don't you dare be false!
095699 No.13766374
>>13746326
Is this bait? If not go google kings field and get used to First person slashing with a comfy atmosphere.
ebb435 No.13767544
>>13766064
I saw that one but never again; plus it was long before their current ports which I haven't heard anything negative so far.
1b7f39 No.13767598
>>13750491
First person RPG's have been a thing for quite a while. Enjoy your (you).
3dc093 No.13767657
>>13758380
>explore dungeons in a medieval setting, kill monsters to gain experience points, use magic, find treasure and equipment
>nothing like Wizardry
Wizadry and Ultima put down the foundation for a large amount of Japanese RPG game including Final Fantasy and King's Field.
It's set in real time and is therefore much more action oriented and you only control one character but even the PSP King's Field games are probably the closets the series has to come to outright copying Wizardry, of course with their own twist on things.
1b7f39 No.13767683
>>13767657
Wizardry ended up being way bigger in Japan than in America, right? As for Ultima, Final Fantasy definitely took inspiration there since the NES versions of those games look pretty similar.
0daed2 No.13767710
>>13765954
Are the armored core games worth playing? I watched some game play and couldn't understand what I was watching
42bf4c No.13767725
Wait, I thought it was resident evil
Are we being baited?
6a679c No.13767732
>>13750502
All you just said is that the nips ripped off a ripoff. You didn't contradict his statement at all.
b5f883 No.13767808
>Over a 100 levels.
>No backup battery save feature.
>No passwords.
>Limited number of continues.
1b7f39 No.13767890
>>13767808
Huh, I've got a copy of that game on my desk right now. It's not really the most difficult game, but the 100+ levels makes it a huge timesink.
e2099f No.13767939
>>13746241
>every difficult game is dark souls XD
>ninja gaiden on the NES was like so much like dark soulsXD
GAME JOURNALISTS GO HOME
ebb435 No.13771812
>>13767683
DQ took inspiration from Wizardry and when it proved itself successful; FF was made as a final attempt to save Squares ass the first time they were about to go bankrupt.
>>13767710
Yes though it varies by game. If you enjoy speedy robots; Armored Core 4 is the one you should go for
b7e2f3 No.13771837
>>13746241
you're fucking retarded and ur mom's a whore. onimusha games were like dmc1 (or the other way around) with a bit of resident evil, and nothing at all like niohsoulsborne games.
b7e2f3 No.13771851
>>13746338
>Morrowind before Morrowind
holocaust before lie
e267c8 No.13774606
>>13771812
DQ isn't shit at all like Wizardry. Wizardry has you in one town with one massive dungeon. DQ has multiple towns and dungeons with a world map. It's more like Ultima, in that regard.
f32a13 No.13774793
>>13746241
10-15 Yeas before Dark Souls, everything was as "hard" as Dark Souls. It's the timing that did it, not the gameplay. Teenagers thought it's some unique shit because they didn't know otherwise and that's that.