19ea15 No.13734269
About to start Fallout 1, anything I should know before I begin? Is the GOG version the best one?
I think I'll make some kind of high-agility gunslinger cowboy that uses pistols and gets lots of VATS perks.
4803c7 No.13734303
>Fallout
<Americana Post-Apocalypse
>STALKER/Metro
<Slavic Post-Apocalypse
>???
<Mongoloid Post-Apocalypse
Near A Tomato doesn't focus on the Post-Apocalypse game wise.
>inb4 China
cf9829 No.13734371
>About to start Fallout 1
>VATS perks
This just makes my head hurt
19ea15 No.13734935
>>13734371
Yeah I thought the system was in the older games, this combat is pretty boring so far. Is it better in 2?
cf9829 No.13734972
>>13734935
I have no words.
19ea15 No.13735030
>>13734972
Nevermind I'm retarded, apparently VATS is called targeted attack and I shouldn't have taken fast shot.
b2e123 No.13735057
>>13734303
A chinese post apocalypse would have you hunting down radioactive dogs to eat.
129626 No.13735154
Know that it's a shallow low-content game with bad controls and bad mechanics that doesn't live up to the hype.
129626 No.13735157
>>13734935
It's mildly better in 2. For once thing, ammo type actually does something in 2. You can also do a bit more with unarmed combat. Still a bag of shit though.
ace605 No.13735162
Tactics > 2 > 1 > BOS > NV > 3=4
f0e925 No.13735181
>>13735154
>>13735157
You can stop trying, Todd.
cf9829 No.13735185
>>13735030
Sweet christ. A plus trolling, I got to admit.
>>13735154
You shut your whore mouth.
>>13735157
Ammo type means exactly jack and shit in both Fallout 1 and 2 beyond "works" and "is shit" unless you mod it due to a bug. Just don't use AP, ever.
>>13735162
>Tictacs at top
>POS above NV
no
ace605 No.13735191
>>13735185
NV is trash
Tactics is a masterpiece.
f0e925 No.13735204
>>13735162
Wrong.
1 > 2 > Jagged Alliance 2 > Tactics >>> NV >>>>> BoS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3=4
cf9829 No.13735210
>>13735191
You are objectively wrong about NV
Tactics is fun, but not a masterpiece
>>13735204
Getting warmer.
f0e925 No.13735223
>>13735210
Nah it's pretty spot on. Tactics was a better game than NV, unless of course you meant 2 > 1
303a14 No.13735225
>>13734303
>>???
>Mongoloid Post-Apocalypse
Hiroshima Simulator VR.
ace605 No.13735233
>>13735210
>>13735204
>Oblivion with guns 2
>anything other than trash
Pathetic
>>13735223
F2 has better gameplay and exploration.
F1 has better story and writing, I can give it that.
f0e925 No.13735254
>>13735233
I don't really see a difference in gameplay between 1 & 2, but the meme writing sets 2 lower for me tbh. Also I set NV pretty low and it is better than BoS which isn't saying much.
cd6afb No.13735259
3272a3 No.13735260
>>13734303
That would be SMT lad
cf9829 No.13735289
>>13735223
1 is better than 2 for most non-mechanical reasons. 2 is mechanically superior, but filled with some silly shit that needn't be there and New Reno was sort of silly as well.
>tactics is better than NV
NV's story, worldbuilding and so on are objectively better than Tactics, even with the non-fleshed-out Legion. Tactics has the advantages of being properly isometric and having decent mechanics (pinched shamelessly from JA2) but is SHIT storywise. I consider them to be in a dead heat overall (Tactics had a ton of shitty perks too, whereas the amount of objectively shit perks in NV is honestly fairly low). Calling POS better than NV is just absurd, though. FOBOS was absolutely wretched.
>>13735233
>dismissing NV as oblivion with guns 2
Shoo shoo NMA goblin
b7a192 No.13735295
>>13734269
Invest in sniper rifle, and aim for the eyes in VATS, works well. Also make sure your intelligence is above 5 or you are retarded and people cant understand you. It locks you out of quests.
cf9829 No.13735313
>>13735295
If you're going to shine the troll on at least be funny and recommend he dumpstat intelligence and pump endurance and charisma.
87da0f No.13735318
>>13734269
Skip 2, it's the Bordermemes of Fallout
>it's a "HURR BETHESDAGAMESRBADBECUZISAYSOS EREREREREREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" poster
Nevermind, bordermemes would be right up your alley.
cf9829 No.13735324
>>13735318
We know it's you Todd, you fucking manlet
f0e925 No.13735333
>>13735289
A reskinned JA2 is still much better than NV. Going from turn based to an aRPG is downright retarded even if "MUH STOWY" is better. Granted, if Obsidian had more time they'd probably go back to the old Fallout formula but you can thank Bethesda for that.
19ea15 No.13735347
>>13735295
Rerolling now, I think I'll do this instead. Is high charisma worth it?
>>13735185
Not trolling, whats this ammo type bug and should I fix it?
c75879 No.13735371
>>13735347
Charisma in FO1 is USELESS, just go high int high speech, new speech options are given by INT not Charisma, as it should have been.
c75879 No.13735392
Join the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel, rid the wasteland of all the SCUM.
cf9829 No.13735395
Also, another strike against Tactics - if you actually play it like a proper BoS chapter (no fucking ghouls, muties or deathclaws) and keep Barnaky happy it's considered the evil route. Also also Barnaky is a bad guy for some reason because fuck you. Also also also FUCKING TALKING HAIRY DEATHCLAWS WHY.
>>13735347
>Not trolling, whats this ammo type bug and should I fix it?
Yeah, no, you broke Hanlon's Razor within 3 posts, you aren't fooling me. The AP bug never got fixed because fixing it fucked with ALL ammo for some damn reason and honestly the best shit doesn't need AP ammo.
>>13735371
CHA is the optimal dumpstat in both FO1 and FO2 (unless you really want a posse in FO2 or have very low STR and need Sulik/etc along to packmule shit for you).
8eeed1 No.13735407
>>13735347
I don't like you.
>whats this ammo type bug and should I fix it?
Different ammo types do jack shit. Just play it as is on your first run. If you had fun and want to play the game again, then apply some patches.
c75879 No.13735435
>>13735395
I actually do have somewhat decent charisma that I can easily raise for more companions with these babies. I love playing Fallout 2 with an entire possy consisting of my man Sulik, Cassidy, my boi Lenny, Goris and Pariah
a47b04 No.13735466
>>13734303
>still no post apocalyptic Africa game
Anything close enough?
inb4 real life Africa
cf9829 No.13735472
>>13735435
>Lenny
Personality-wise he's fine but fuck he's almost useless otherwise.
>Pariah
I see you like to live dangerously.
When I went charismatic I usually opted for Sulik, Vic (or Skynet later on) and Cassidy. Or K9, Robodog and Dogmeat for shiggles
f0e925 No.13735486
>>13735466
>tfw no games based on being a rhodie and killing communist nig nogs with muh FAL
Why live
c75879 No.13735506
>>13735472
Every time I go to Reno I have Lenny stand by the car for my entire stay in Reno, can't have it stolen you see? But then they steal it on the first day right in front of Lenny
a6d68f No.13735543
>>13735057
I'm pretty sure I can already do that in Fallout.
8ce6ed No.13735561
I wonder if we'll ever get a fallout game again were we can play as a ghoul, not counting mods of course.
c75879 No.13735570
Has anyone tried out Killap's Fallout 2 Restoration Mod? It adds a whole slew of content and fixes, it's pretty dope, adds the abbey, and an entire new section with 3 new companions.
cf9829 No.13735581
>>13735570
Yes. Wouldn't use it for your first time through the game, but it's nice (one of the few good things to come out of NMA).
8414ba No.13735582
>>13734935
2 can be fun, but it's rough at the start, and when it comes to the first 2 fallout games you gotta savescum like a bitch.
>>13735570
Does it add in an option to be myrons little slut?
c75879 No.13735593
>>13735581
It ain't my first time in the rodeo pardner Just wanted to see if I was not the only one to utilize it.
>>13735582
Myron, baby, Myron!
Seriously Kys for wanting to sleep with that grease boy
cf9829 No.13735608
>>13735582
>2 can be fun, but it's rough at the start, and when it comes to the first 2 fallout games you gotta savescum like a bitch.
Not really. The only time I ever savescummed in FO2 was when I was being an ass and doing the SanFran trick.
>Does it add in an option to be myrons little slut?
Pic related
8414ba No.13735626
>>13735608
>>13735593
No bully. It's for character development. Besides, hes a good chemist for jet on the road. I bet you faggots always choose cassidy and marcus
306fcd No.13735637
>>13735582
Last time I tried it I think it crashed the game? Some dialog with Myron was bugged anyway. But yeah, it does from what I remember. Restoration project is a must-have and it's a great mod, first playthrough or not. It adds depth and new stuff.
c75879 No.13735639
>>13735626
>He plays a Jet junkie that sucks Myron's dick for probably more doses.
3272a3 No.13735644
>>13735639
This Jack Frost always disturbed me with how erotic it looks
cf9829 No.13735659
>>13735626
>No bully. It's for character development.
This is almost up there with the pedo RP autist who drank from the toilets in Little Lamplight for "character development".
>Besides, hes a good chemist for jet on the road.
I generally just parked him somewhere convenient and occasionally used him to make super stimpaks. He's pretty awful in every other way.
>Marcus
Marcus is sort of bro-tier but he's really terrible for a number of reasons.
c75879 No.13735668
>>13735659
>pedo RP autist who drank from the toilets in Little Lamplight for "character development".
I demand to know more.
306fcd No.13735670
>>13735659
>pedo rp autist who drank from the toilets in LL for character development
You got my interest. Tell me more about this pedo.
cf9829 No.13735685
>>13735668
>>13735670
Christ now I wish I had saved the caps. Some guy RPed a pedophile in FO3, followed the Megaton kids around like a creeper, got to LL and fixated on the one little girl, got to the toilets in LL and drank himself into rad poisoning death because it was RP. Someone must have the screencaps of that, it gets posted from time to time. I'll look around a bit.
306fcd No.13735689
>>13735685
I vaguely remember something like that but I wish I had caps of this.
cf9829 No.13735693
>>13735689
Found it on fucking FunnyJunk of all places. Predates 8ch.
306fcd No.13735704
>>13735693
>that fucking pixelated text
Oh yeah. That brings old memories back.
e5570b No.13735709
>>13735704
It's still possible, you know
2cdf7e No.13735714
Consider the following: Take Fallout 3 and replace every instance of the name "Enclave" with "(Midwestern) Brotherhood of Steel". Turn the Lyon's Pride into their own thing, too, because fuck that. Is Fallout 3 now vaguely interesting?
Note the "Enclave" power armor in Fallout 3 being really strongly modeled after the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel power armor from Fallout Tactics, too.
306fcd No.13735716
>>13735709
Try harder, I can still make out the letters in my original pic.
cf9829 No.13735718
>>13735714
Except it doesn't make any sense now, anon. Which would make it fit right into FO3, now that I think about it.
c75879 No.13735719
>>13735714
>Turn the Midwestern brotherhood into the bad guys
We've got a live mutie here, boys.
cfc69c No.13735722
where's that mod list for fallout 3?
9d981a No.13735723
>>13735719
>Enclave
>Bad guys
c75879 No.13735729
>>13735723
I don't give a shit for the Enclave, they all died at Navarro and the Oil Rig, the end.
Fuck you FO3 for bringing them back from the dead
cfc69c No.13735732
e5570b No.13735735
>>13735716
Old jpg screencaps have a certain look to them that I can't perfectly recreate, but here's one at 80% quality
2cdf7e No.13735739
>>13735719
Throw out the intended reading of Fallout 3, as well. Who says the nation expending their greatest military assets and personnel to civilise the nightmare land that DC has become are the bad guys?
fb5287 No.13735749
2cdf7e No.13735754
>>13735718
It's gotta make more sense than the Fallout 3 we have. Except… where's Washington DC? Oh, fuck, that's a big issue of geography.
c75879 No.13735762
>>13735754
How about this, DC is a wasteland since it was bombed to shit, groups of violent tribesmen and mutants are pushed to the old DC wasteland due to the advancement of the Midwestern BOS, DC becomes a battleground for all the several tribes, some more peaceful than others.
The player can pick either tribe or join the BOS in wiping out all the tribes or just assimilating them to expand the BOS.
That's just how I would see it.
306fcd No.13735765
>>13735735
That's because fags save them, post them on kikebook, save them, post them elsewhere and repeat it for like 10 iterations until jpgs become unreadable and pixelated to shit due to constant recompression.
8414ba No.13735767
>>13735639
>He doesn't have bad shit happen to him
>He doesn't adapt to terrible situations
This is why you're weak and still a casual, you're not willing to go the extra mile and make yourself stronger, even if that stronger is by sucking a nerds dick for your next fix. It's all about context and improvement.
>>13735637
It crashes the game when you talk to myron? That's an uninstall for me right there. He's usually one of my main companions.
>>13735659
>Being addicted to a drug is the same as being a pedo
Go home /b/.
>Parking the chemist somewhere away
>Just stimpaks
You're the anon who doesn't use buffs in combat aren't you?
>Marcus is really terrible for a number of reasons.
Agreed. Such a boring character.
306fcd No.13735771
>>13735767
No, it fucked up the dialog with him and sometimes caused crashes last time I played, some year or more ago, but I think that got patched already. The fag forgot to put brackets somewhere so it fucked with Myron's dialogue. Go check on the forums, they are actually a strangely active community for a 18 year old game.
cf9829 No.13735779
>>13735767
I said ALMOST. (Turning tricks for Mynon to get your Jet fix is nearly as nasty. Nearly.)
>You're the anon who doesn't use buffs in combat aren't you?
I just don't need them. The only really crazy-good chem is probably Psycho and the addiction/withdrawal symptoms for it suck hard. Mentats are useful OUT of combat at times, but the only time Buffout's worth a damn is when you're trying to force doors and shit (and you don't have the implants/power armors yet).
8414ba No.13735986
>>13735771
Oh. When I play my next playthrough in a few weeks to a month i'll check it out.
>>13735779
Tbf, myron is kinda cute, and it's kinky.
It's also nowhere near as nasty, pedo stuff is wrong and gross
>Don't need them
Only because you're a casual who doesn't know how to minmax properly.
cf9829 No.13736182
>>13735986
You don't even need to minmax in FO2, but I have rarely had a problem that I needed chems to fix. ESPECIALLY if I pick Gifted.
Dumping Strength is generally not a great idea. I usually start it at 5. Does fine, you get the implant and power armor by the time you really need more strength on hand in a more permanent fashion. Small Frame will nick your carrying capacity a bit if you pick it, so don't dump strength and pick Small Frame.
Agility should absolutely never ever be dumped. I baseline at 8 minimum, that's if I go both Small Frame and Gifted which take it to 10. If you don't want to use the incredibly broken Gifted, start at 9, pick Small Frame anyway.
Luck can be dumped but it results in bad times (or hilariously bad times if you took Jinxed). I don't dump luck because I like the Sniper perk. Go 8 to start if at all possible, get the +2 luck Zeta scan from the one Hubologist, and take Sniper at 24. Have fun faceraping everything with Gauss Pistol/Rifle.
Intelligence you only dump if you really want to play a stupid character. Otherwise, start as high as possible. 9 Intelligence is not irrational if you can get the statpoints for it by dumping/choosing Gifted.
Perception is kind of nice, but not critical. Starting value of anywhere from 5 to 7 is fine.
Endurance I usually go anywhere between 1 and 4. HP is alright and all but being able to murder shit in the first few turns is better. Usually if you're in a situation where you need gobs of HP something has already gone really wrong/you're under-armored/both. That said, 1 Endurance to start makes for a really challenging run through early game, so use discretion.
Charisma is the prime dumpstat. I never take it higher than 6 AFTER Gifted and the blue memory module and the mirrored shades. Dump it completely if you want to just solo. Barely matters. Keep in mind that the kickass combat implants slash your charisma score a bit if you max them (worthwhile trade, IMO).
cf9829 No.13736222
>>13736182
Oh, keep in mind the Gain Foo perks. Don't use them for EVERYTHING, but a few are worth it, depending on your situation/build.
Worthwhile perks are Awareness (there aren't many other decent perks at that level), Better Criticals (makes shit blow up REAL good), Sniper (Slayer if melee, Slayer's ridiculous and you don't need uber luck with Slayer), and a handful of others I can't remember off the top of my head. Crits are godly in FO2 especially, having a good crit rate when you snag the .44 Mag revolver turns you into an angel of death, and when you get Gauss weapons later you can oneshot shit a lot of the time with Sniper and good LK.
cf9829 No.13736253
As for combat tactics, targeted shots are your friend. Eyeshots are great for crits. Deathclaws you shoot in the legs first, because their AI is dumb and if you cripple their legs they try and run (which they've suddenly become really bad at). Most robots/machines become completely helpless if you shoot their sensors.
c591f8 No.13736277
>just started Fallout 2
>unsure of how to build character
>mfw this thread
I hope I didn't screw up on the stats. I wanted to play a character more gifted in speech/jewing to get through situations rather than just becoming death.
Played Fallout 1 but it was years ago, so i am rusty and forget viable things etc. Going to play through blind.
cf9829 No.13736285
>>13736277
>Diplomat character
Lockpick is a better tag than Doctor, honestly. Lockpick is stupidly useful. But Small Guns and Speech are solid picks. CH is excessive even for a diplo character, but you do you, it can still get through the entire game without much of an issue I wager.
215f1e No.13736295
>>13736277 (noice)
Like >>13736285 said, skills like lockpicking and sneak are far more useful than doctor (with a Doctor Skill of 60-80%, you can get successful heals almost every time). Also, Inteligence is very important because apart from defining how many skill points you get every level, it also gets you access to more dialog options.
8414ba No.13736307
>>13736182
>>13736222
>>13736253
You've ruined the fun by making it so sanitized anon. You're supposed to minmax within the confines of your build, not like this. Not like this.
>>13736277
Play a stupid character with 1 int.
cf9829 No.13736333
>>13736307
>You're supposed to minmax within the confines of your build
wat does this mean
I've run a number of different builds and the hands-down most ridiculously good but still-fun one was the posse gifted gunslinger. It's impressively difficult to make an unplayable build in FO2, really.
Anyway, traits to stay away from:
Bruiser is so bad. So, so bad. You do not want to sacrifice action points.
Heavy Handed is something you only do if you dumped luck. Maybe. It's really crap otherwise.
All the others are either conditional/for RP purposes/fun or actually good.
if you really want just utter fucking cheese roll a high LK unarmed Gifted Jinxed character and watch enemies literally kill themselves. It's funny for a gimmick playthrough.
8414ba No.13736389
>>13736333
See having a gimmick or a special skill is better, like a gifted gunslinger, but how you were explaining it before was just
>these are all the best skills to get and be unstoppable
Which is dale, sanitized and stale. The best builds find a way to make themselves OP within the confines of their inception.
>gifted jinxed
I've done the jinxed playthrough which was fun as fuck i'll admit. I've still never actually played a proper retard playthrough tho.
b854bf No.13736544
>>13735395
>HURRR EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE TROLL BOOGEYMANG BCUZ I SAID SO XDDDD XDDDD XDDDD XDDDD
Kill yourself, kike.
2af2a3 No.13736687
cf9829 No.13738128
>>13736544
Drink paint thinner, nigger.
>(1)
You don't even deserve that (you).
>>13736687
Wasteland 2 is… flawed. If you can snag it for cheap, go ahead I guess, but I just was not having anywhere near as much fun with it as I had with old Fallouts and the first Wasteland. YMMV.
5c0a82 No.13738170
>>13735347
If you're serious about getting into this game, and you're not just trolling, then get used to failing a few times. It's not a shooter with "RPG elements." It's an RPG. If you're not used to the genre you are going to fail A LOT until you learn.
fb5287 No.13738180
>>13735347
Don't forget to save in multiple slots.
cf9829 No.13738191
>>13738180
Oh god this. Yes. Also, unless you want to do an Iron Man run save before you travel between major locations. Some random encounters (and some special encounters, depending) can absolutely fucking ruin your day.
e2cd13 No.13739561
fallout, fallout2,>>> fallout New Bugginess/ chestbreach vids > wasteland 2 >>> capital greenshitty filter (pointlookout and mothership zeta were awesome, but thats it) >>>>>> Fallout 4: bio blackops modern warfare shock
19ea15 No.13740019
>>13739561
Come on, 4 is at least marginally better than 3. They both have vomit-inducing writing and aren't RPGs but at least the combat is tolerable in 4. 3 doesn't really have anything going for it.
b3cca3 No.13740284
friendos quick poll:
fallout 2 or a STALKER game? already have new vegas if that makes licking for me easier?
3a9049 No.13740299
>>13740284
Why settle for one? Try them all
50d6e0 No.13740318
>>13739738
What's wrong with project Nevada?
b3cca3 No.13740353
>>13740299
if i can only go for one, which one should i settle for?
b3cca3 No.13740373
>>13735722
speaking of mods, whats the /v/erdict on requiem / ultimate skyrim for the elder scrolls 5? makes the game hardcore, and a little more challenging, but is the game redeemable?
b3cca3 No.13740380
>>13740373
and for the skyrim fans here, anyone excitrd for beyond skyrim?
5da069 No.13740428
>>13734269
>GOG
Isn't the GOG version/Bethesda re-releases based on the European versions where you can't kill children?
Try to find torrents based off the original US .isos.
19ea15 No.13740482
>>13740353
Play Fallout 1 before 2. If you like the exploring in NV go with STALKER, if you like the role playing go with Fallout 1.
dc618b No.13740580
>>13734303
Well Near A Tomato was actually decent post apocalyptic game. It was one of few times we actually saw post apo world that didn't get its shit together. Pretty much of instead of struggling to survive a struggle for a reason to keep surviving.
Besides that:
Dark Souls and pretty much every other Souls game.
Tokyo Jungle is what you want for your answer.
SMT was already said but still there is that.
God Eater and Code Vein?
Problem is Japs and other Mongoloids like to throw apocalypse like Western media like to use ancient civilizations. One giant plot device for them to do stuff that is essentially magic. Sometimes developed nicely but more often nothing interesting is done with it.
2a4ac3 No.13740891
129626 No.13741187
>>13735181
lol, what is with this insistence that criticism for the original isometric shitheaps must come from modern Fallout fans? You understand the original games being bad doesn't preclude the FPSs from being shit too, right?
0ac6d7 No.13741201
>>13734269
Is there a reason the Fallout 3 logo is on the NV box art?
e2cd13 No.13741230
>>13740019
fallout 4 is a bioshock game written by bioware that got rebranded fallout mid development cycle
c591f8 No.13741233
>>13741201
Really nigga ?
Because NV really is Fallout 3 if you consider the story and the lore of the series, the team that worked on the game, and compare it to the other modern Fallout games. NV is the only one worthy of even being considered a predecessor to the originals
8be670 No.13741269
>>13741187
lol what is with this insistence that games which are liked by people who like a certain genre must be bad because children have gotten older and pretend to be fans? You understand that games don't just get worse because you like the little noises Mario makes when he jumps, right?
0ac6d7 No.13741285
>>13741233
So what you're saying is it's some autists desperate futile attempt to omit and butcher reality in favour of their own opinion of what they think of as canon.
Face reality, FO3 exists and it's not NV, sadly for all you FO1 and 2 blowjobbers it's better known and more playable than both the earlier iterations too.
0ac6d7 No.13741298
>>13741285
I'll just nb that with: All Fallout games are retarded.
0ac6d7 No.13741311
>>13741233
You paint me as retarded Wojack but:
>NV is the only one worthy of even being considered a PREDECESSOR to the originals
That would mean it was set before the originals.
19ea15 No.13741314
>>13741230
So is Fallout 3 though
b0569a No.13741410
>>13735343
You forgot to take that POS Fallout 3 out of the Main seires dumbass.
>inb4 muh new vegas
Shit wasn't much better than 3 and just because it was made by a bunch of the original guys doesn't mean it was good - just look at Raven Software, no one is defending their crappy CoD games because they made awesome shit like Black Crypt, Heretic, Solider of Fortune back in the day, so fuck off with the Obsidian meme.
13cb34 No.13741418
>>13741233
Don't you mean successor? I agree that it is more of a worthy followup to the originals than 3 was, but come on man.
aa6694 No.13742567
>>13734269
Does someone have that edit of image 1 where Mr. House is presented as the exception?
Also, leddit ruined my meme by fucking up the punchline. I was looking for the original because it wasn't in my computer.
8414ba No.13742677
>>13742567
It's debatable whether the people caesar killed were innocent. Whores, prostitutes, pimps, communists, and NCR are NOT innocent by any margin.
cd6afb No.13742703
>>13742567
>implying President Richardson wasn't one of our greatest Presidents
22e47b No.13742748
>>13742677
>It's debatable whether the people caesar killed were innocent
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Caesar
>Sallow knew that, even though the tribes had always fought each other via occasional skirmishes, he considered them to only be "playing at war," having never seen warfare at its most destructive and barbaric state. They defeated the weakest of their enemies first and enslaved many of the able-bodied survivors; but Sallow had the rest, including women and children, killed to the last, leaving their remains piled high.
cd6afb No.13742761
>>13742748
Gotta break a few eggs
>tfw no game where you play as Caesar establishing the Legion
aa6694 No.13742762
>>13742677
Post-apocalyptic ISIS aren't heroes.
>>13742703
He is only president in name.
It was a low effort meme yet leddit still managed to make it worse.
cd6afb No.13742768
>>13742762
>Post-apocalyptic ISIS
But that's not Joshua Graham :^)
aa6694 No.13742783
>>13742768
What you said is too retarded to understand.
1) Joshua Graham is a single person not a group.
2) Joshua Graham is part of the Legion.
3) What the hell is that suppose even mean?
303a14 No.13742790
>>13741285
>So what you're saying is it's some autists desperate futile attempt to omit and butcher reality in favour of their own opinion of what they think of as canon.
Yes, that's what Bethesda's Fallout 3 is and that's why New Vegas is the real Fallout 3.
8414ba No.13742791
>>13742748
>Bunch of raping, kidnapping, murdering tribals
>innocent
Anon, you know full well tribals are monsters.
>>13742762
>Isis
Caesars Legion is 90% white, and based on Rome, not muhamada.
aa1086 No.13742794
>>13742567
The institute managed to make the story to Fallout 3 make sense in execution. Does anyone have that screencap talking about how fucked up their objectives were in a way that they made no fucking sense?
aa6694 No.13742816
>>13742791
>Caesars Legion is 90% white, and based on Rome, not muhamada.
So acting like mudslimes is ok if you have the right skin color? OK. There are plenty of White traitors that joined ISIS.
303a14 No.13742819
>>13742791
>Anon, you know full well tribals are monsters
Only after Caesar trained them into being them for his Legion.
8414ba No.13742858
>>13742794
>
>>13742816
>Acting like mudslimes
But anon what do you mean, the legion is winning. That's as far from acting like a mudslime as possible.
>>13742819
>Tribals rape, murder, pillage
>It's the white mans fault they're bad people
Anon, your neofag is showing.
aa6694 No.13742874
>>13742858
>But anon what do you mean, the legion is winning.
They lost the First Battle of Hoover Dam and it is up in the air for the Second Battle of Hoover Dam.
Mudslimes cucked a lot of places. Europe got pretty cucked.
303a14 No.13742880
>>13742858
>oh he made a good point
>better try to dismiss it by bringing race into this
And you have the audacity to call me a neofag user? What fun life must be without any degree of self awareness.
e2cd13 No.13742881
>>13741314
no you fucking retard, its an oblivion game with guns shoved in it
8414ba No.13742893
>>13742874
And have been winning since
>Mudslimes cucked a lot of places
It's interesting you never said "won", because they don't win, cause they're useless, which is how poland of all places took them down.
>>13742880
>Good point
You give yourself way too much credit. Your point was shit. The tribals were already raping and murdering people for funzies and bragging rights. Caesar just showed the pieces of shit how to do it effectively by doing it to the other raping and killing pieces of shit. He himself says this, course you ignore that to try and make caesar the bad guy for being better and more organized at his job than others, cause you're probably a communist cuck that doesn't like ambition and effectiveness.
aa6694 No.13742911
>>13742893
>It's interesting you never said "won", because they don't win, cause they're useless, which is how poland of all places took them down.
Do you think all of those countries have always been Muslim? They have won some battles. Why don't you join your White mudslime apologists in the media?
e2cd13 No.13742912
>>13742677
> defending a dipshit who wants to further regress civilization after a nuclear holocaust
303a14 No.13742932
>>13742893
>The tribals were already raping and murdering people for funzies and bragging rights.
You gonna post a source that backs that up? Because Anon >>13742748 already posted with citation that they weren't as savage as the Legion until Caesar showed up, that all they had were skirmishes. You got evidence to back your shit up or are you arguing your stubborn inability to admit you were wrong and muh legion?
aa6694 No.13742952
>>13742893
>And have been winning since
Dying of Cancer isn't winning.
Also, enjoy having your nation be cucked to death.
8414ba No.13742965
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13742911
You're now derailing the thread with offtopic things. This will be the last (you) you get from me.
>>13742912
His plan is to save civilization. Unlike NCR, who are failing.
>>13742932
His own conversations say as such. When he talks about "playing at war"
>A little rape here, a little enslavement there
>I showed them total warfare.
They were already raping and enslaving long before he arrived, he was just more effective at it, hence why he's top dog.
>>13742952
>Destroy camp searchlight
>Take nelson, crucifying soldiers as a message while the cucked ncr looks on angrily, completely unable to do shit
>Take over a ranger station, the supposed best of their soldiers, and take one of the women for fun
>Burn Novac to show you can be anywhere in the mojave
Frankly, the only possible successes ncr has is due to intervention, like the bomb that we stop at mcarran, otherwise it'd work and boom. But it also shows the perfectly placed spy network.
Then there are the fiends harrying the ncr and even raping their snipers, who admit to working for legion.
The only way the NCR one the first time is because graham is an idiot, the ncr blew up a city to win and they still barely won, after blowing up an entire city and having a superior commander in the battle eg: hanlin
>Muh legion is isis
Everything has to come back to muslims with you cucks. Go back to prepping your bull and leave us alone without your erotic obsessions.
aa6694 No.13742977
>>13742965
You really love sucking that cock from that old White Mudslime dying of Cancer.
>The only way the NCR one the first time is because graham is an idiot
>one the first time
303a14 No.13742979
>>13742965
>a little here and there
>so I show 'em how to do it better and righter
>this somehow means they were worse than the Legion was
You tried. Poorly, but you tried.
8414ba No.13742996
>>13742979
>Poorly
My entire premise was that the legion were conquering tribes that were not innocent. The admission from Caesar is proof they were raping, murdering and enslaving already, long before he entered the scene. None of them were innocent, Caesar was just better at it. He's being shit on for being the best in his field.
aa6694 No.13743017
>>13742996
By your logic, you can't shit on someone for being the best at twerking.
8414ba No.13743027
>>13743017
My argument was never that he wasn't a piece of shit, just that he wasn't murdering innocents, which the tribals were not. He built an empire on slavery and conquest. Of course hes a cunt, but most great men who change the world are.
d95728 No.13743033
>>13743017
Hardly. Using horrific acts in order to stabilize and get rid of horrific acts is an entirely different premise.
303a14 No.13743045
>>13742996
>you know full well tribals are monsters.
>[Caesars] plan is to save civilization [by showing how to rape, enslave, and pillage on an industrial scale they've never seen before also he hasn't murdered any innocent person except for the times that he has and he as ordered it done because Caesar a good boy who dindu nuffin]
You called tribals monsters yet you're claiming the people who turned them into actual monsters that are a thousand times worse are the ones saving humanity? You are an idiot. Just straight up a fucking idiot. Like every Legionfag that shits up New Vegas threads. Whatever, enjoy your final (You) from me and feel free to pretend you somehow won this argument.
d95728 No.13743069
>>13743045
The plan to save civilization is to use the total war tactics of savages to unify a balkanized region, along with creating single culture. Tribals have no objective, no goal, and commit monstrous acts without reasoning. Equating that to a unified states army is moronic. You cannot think past your own initial emotions.
f07fdb No.13743142
Myron looks like Reviewbrah
4439d6 No.13743263
People comparing the legion to isis always leave me confused to say the least
>roman empire were isis
>crusaders were isis
>british colonialists were isis
This is on par with you are literally hitler. There are other points to complain about them but instead these people just show up on every fo thread to shitpost
8414ba No.13743264
>>13743045
>Rape people
>Murder people
>Enslave people
>"y-you're not a monster yet goy! Only when this other dude is more effective at it!"
Apparently a little bit of rape, slavery and murder is okay so long as you're bad at it.
>This is the last (you) you'll get from me
Unsurprising since your flimsy arguments have all been trounced.
a9e178 No.13743345
>>13735347
Just play the fucking game you under aged cunt.
aa6694 No.13743394
>>13743263
>crusaders were isis
>implying the Christians instigated the war against the Muslims
The Muslims were spreading like plague conquering the holy land and killing everyone else that is making a pilgrimage. Maybe try not just using the argument that they aren't ISIS because they are Roman or White.
aa6694 No.13743402
>>13743264
Why do you avatarfag?
Why do you have such shit taste in Mongolian cartoons?
d95728 No.13743449
>>13743394
>implying the Christians instigated the war against the Muslims
He didn't imply that at all, though.
8414ba No.13743460
>>13743449
He's been trying to derail the thread, probably because he's a bethescuck.
aa6694 No.13743530
>>13743460
>shit taste projecting his shit taste
I guess that you one that argument.
aa6694 No.13743645
>>13743619
What happened to >>13742965
>This will be the last (you) you get from me.
8414ba No.13743666
>13743645
>He doesn't get it.
You disappoint me.
aa6694 No.13743675
>>13743666
Go masturbate to little girls, Satan. You are still assblasted faggot.
021dc3 No.13743701
>>13740318
>>13740891
it's an overhaul mod that would collide with other mods posted in the pic, especially with JSawyer mod. On top of that nevada is more about shooting mechanics (sprinting, grenade button etc.) closer to CoD than rpg ones
61e781 No.13743735
New vegas > 4 > 3 > the other trash isometric
61e781 No.13743842
>>13743747
wow grampa, do think this is 2005 or something?
1fe7cc No.13743888
>>13735729
>the only faction that predicted and prepared for the war by building bunkers all around the nation should have died when an outpost and a base got destroyed
>it makes total sense for the bos to be called "steel plague" because they sheltered themselves in a whole bunker!
The enclave is still the most powerful and populated faction, even after losing ravenrock.
I believe we deal only with the presidential division, both in fo2 and fo3. There is absolutely no way for the enclave to be reduced to an oil rig and a refueling station by the time of fo2.
If you say that is silly for the presidental division to be relocated on the other coast, i agree. But to say the enclave should be dead, that's just retarded.
8414ba No.13743895
>>13743735
Tbh
NV>2>1>Tactics>3>4>Other shit
5e5ab6 No.13743932
So how many times is Fallout 4 going to be released in the next eight to ten years?
f07fdb No.13743943
>>13743895
swap 2 and 1 and we're good
8414ba No.13744002
>>13743932
It won't be. Fallout 4 has become increasingly unpopular, unlike Skyrim which is largely just shit on on imageboards. Skyrim though will get more rereleases on new console platforms.
>>13743943
I preferred 2 tbh.
335c0a No.13744007
>super gaymers sikrit club
>there is not one day without a fallout or TES thread being made
This place is really a haven for pretenders.
d0724a No.13744037
>>13744007
>>super gaymers sikrit club
Get a load of this retard. There is nothing secret about this place, and there never has been. The only one pretending is you.
d9f362 No.13744054
>>13744007
>(1)
>implying /v/ is one person
>implying there is anything wrong with talking about vidya
>implying TES and Fallout don't have good games in the series
>he didn't even sage
b4dc1f No.13744095
Go small guns high luck.
Get sniper perk.
8655b5 No.13744398
>>13735543
You can already do that in china.
0ac6d7 No.13744692
People with a similar problem to (you) >>13742790 and him >>13741233 wore 'Spoiler Alert: Hilary Wins' t-shirts.
I played FO3 more than NV and I've played NV through twice. That some fags are so precious about this series concerning anything past FO2 is lolworthy, the whole series is fucking stupid and shoddily made, the complaints people level at 3 are hilariously weak as nearly all of them apply to NV and NV has many of its own problems to boot.
The first 2 are relics and not very good ones but I understand the aggro from having a series dragged up/bastardised by a group they don't like. However what would make the whining a tad more justifiable is if those people actually played any of the earlier games when they were relevant and wasn't a load of retroactive: "Looky at me I'm such an oldfag cos I pirated them off GOG last year" that we actually see.
I mean fuck, you complain about FO3 when FO4 exists? When does it stop mattering to you? When do you realise your precious canon is meaningless in the face of IPs changing hands?
c75879 No.13744736
>>13741410
Do it yourself you crybaby.
c75879 No.13744753
>>13744692
Would you say the same if it was YOUR favorite IP being butchered?
aa6694 No.13744768
>>13744692
Without those criticisms, people would have sucked Bethesda's dick with FO4 like people did with FO3. Stop being a faggot.
0439be No.13745225
>>13739738
>Someone capped my post
I don't know whether to feel happy that I've helped people, or sad that I've spent so much valuable time on vidya. Speaking of…
My autism returns with a second gift! I did some playing around with the damage formula for New Vegas listed on the wiki, and found the exact points at which hollow-point ammo beats regular and armour-piercing rounds. Here's the short and skinny of it:
>HP beats normal ammo when Damage > 5.67*DT
>HP beats AP when Damage > 5.375(DT+3.3)
a9e178 No.13745243
>>13741410
>MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
335c0a No.13745249
>>13744054
>(1) himself
>bethesdacuck and proud
>believes sage is a downvote
cf9829 No.13745260
>>13745225
Neat. Thanks anon. Think you could flesh it out to cover the Hand Loader permutations? I imagine it'll probably just be a matter of Hand Loader stuff being objectively superior at all times, but it'd still be pretty cool.
0439be No.13745281
>>13745260
There are a lot of different Hand Loader ammo types. Any one in particular you're thinking of?
cf9829 No.13745302
>>13745281
.308 JSP and .45-70 JFP mostly because they're the ur-endgame-ammo types more or less. Also, how does +P 9mm handload stack up versus the other common pistol calibers? (I really like Maria.)
cf9829 No.13745309
>>13745302
SWC for 45-70, I mean. Fuck me.
cf9829 No.13745317
>>13745302
>>13745309
Wait a sec I thought +P was the 9mm handload, not JHP. Fuck it's been a while.
54adc9 No.13745346
>>13734935
>this combat is pretty boring so far
Don't you have a Call of Duty to be opening Lootboxes in?
ebb9bf No.13745357
>>13744692
So far I have only played Fallout 3 and NV, back when it when it first came out I played a ton of Fallout 3 due to the basic fighting and looting gameplay being very entertaining. I didn't play much NV at the time since I guess I was burned out, but a few months ago I started a new game of NV after playing it for a while I found out about the Tale of Two Wastelands mod that lets you combined Fallout 3 and NV into one game.
Since I wanted items I remember liking from Fallout 3 I started playing that games content. the difference is night and day anon. Fallout 3's writing is Dog shit, after going from NV to 3 all I wanted to do was go back to NV. The people in NV feel like they have stories to tell and most of them really do and that makes me give a shit about them. most people in Fallout 3 felt like boring exposition dump in comparison.
In an RPG the most important part is the writing since your talking to people all the god damn time. Fallout 3's writing is shit so that makes it shit. New Vegas Writing is great and that makes it great. every single complaint i'v seen against Fallout 3 is justified in my eyes.
54adc9 No.13745383
>>13745357
>Tale of Two Wastelands
God damn that mod is an abortion. Never take a smart story and mash it into a stupid story, the contrast between the two locations makes Fallout 3 look worse and drags down New Vegas. I guess at least it makes some people see how shit 3 is by comparison.
>>13741285
>something being widely known makes it better
>McDonalds is the best five star restaurant in the world
You are fucking retarded, full stop. You need to stop posting.
49460e No.13745437
Anyone fall for the kickstarter meme for A.T.O.M. RPG?
(Shilling site goes here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atomrpg/atom-rpg)
0439be No.13745439
>>13745302
>>13745309
>>13745317
Done. Here you are:
>HP beats SWC when Damage > 7.36(DT+1.78)
>HP beats .308 JSP when Damage > 8.78DT
>HP beats 9mm JHP when Damage > 19.5DT
>HP beats 9mm +P when Damage > 6.385(DT+0.53)
de9956 No.13745642
>>13745357
Have my game set up like that, except the enemies can actually fuck me up pretty bad. Pretty fun for the 30 minutes it will run before crashing.
c75879 No.13745658
>>13745383
I only use Tales Of Two Wastelands so I can play the DLC like the Pit, I always use the NV start, and take off for the Fallout 3 DLC at the end, It's kind of satisfying.
da8e45 No.13746997
>>13735223
Tactics had brain-dead dialogue options. Exactly like Ford Model T paint options.
c591f8 No.13748263
Making progress here.
I was getting absolutely slaughtered on my way to New Reno was was getting pissed.
I did everything as best I could up to that point cleared up the quests in Klamath, Vault City, Gecko, and The Den and I felt underpowered as hell. The I got a lucky encounter some Yakuza fighting with mobsters, they kill eachother and I walk away with a Sniper Rifle.
Went back to The Den and had sex with a hobo for $200 for a couple days and bought ammo then steam rolled all the way to Broken Hills.
ff2566 No.13748483
>>13748263
Your special stats are garbage. Should have had a couple 9s or 10s and luck down to 1. At least, in my opinion. Luck is a useless dump stat and perception is of the most important combat skills. Doctor is a nice thought for a tag skill, but I prefer a more utilitarian skill like lockpick, science, even sneak isn't a bad choice.
ff2566 No.13748523
>>13748263
Also, you don't know the true beauty of having ten agility. Shoot twice in one turn? Yes please.
cf9829 No.13748731
>>13748483
>At least, in my opinion. Luck is a useless dump stat and perception is of the most important combat skills.
Luck is a useless dump stat until you want to actually crit something which you need to do in order to do serious damage in mid-late game. Or get some spending money from gambling tables. Or avoid the exploding brahmin encounter which will fucking murder you. Or not get absolutely fucked by the Pariah encounter.
Luck is an extremely shaky choice for dump. I'd dump Endurance before Luck, Charisma before both.
>Also, you don't know the true beauty of having ten agility. Shoot twice in one turn? Yes please.
10 Agility is nice but you hardly need to nuke Luck to do it, nor should you. As for shooting twice, that's nowhere near as important in early game as you seem to think, and by mid to late game you'll have secured BRoF and Action Boy. Early to early-mid shoot and scoot is perfectly viable against melee opponents, and against ranged opponents the bonus AC you get from shooting and applying the leftover AP to AC is amazingly helpful.
c591f8 No.13748992
>>13748483
I wasn't going for perfectly optimized stats, I went in blind with the idea of playing a more passive character.
aa1086 No.13749075
>>13742858
Anon you reposted the screencap about the Enclave from 3 that some other dude had already posted in this very thread.
Thank you for replying though.
7702eb No.13749125
>>13735204
>JA2 in this list
That's… not even remotely the same thing as the average fallout game.
000000 No.13750269
Sure, Fallout 4 needed more finishing, but was better than fallout 1 and 2, 3 and new vegans in terms of gameplay
81a525 No.13750284
>>13735466
>>13735486
Far Cry 2 is the closest thing you're gonna get, and it's a fairly flawed game.
da8e45 No.13750610
>>13735435
Pity the game has fixed appearances for your possy. Imagine a whole squad in power armors behind you.
>>13735318
It's not as bad as you exaggerate.
da8e45 No.13750623
>>13748731
You need to keep Endurance at least at 4 for a certain perk with extra hp, and some charisma grants you additional pack mule companions. Because they serve only a little more use than that.
a9e178 No.13750629
>>13750269
>torfag
Every time.
0439be No.13751535
What do you guys think of Melee Weapons and Unarmed in New Vegas? I've done a lot testing in the past few days, particularly against deathclaws, and come to a few conclusions:
>Unarmed is only really viable with crits, not including the Industrial Hand
>Crit Unarmed/Melee builds leave you with next to no free perks when your level cap is only 35 with the JSawyer mod
>Paralysing Palm is too infrequent to be worth it, and Ranger Takedown's timing is too finicky to be reliable
>Unarmed is worthless against multiple deathclaws because they bat you out of range, whereas Melee has some reach
>Juggling enemies with the Mauler special attack for blunt 2H melee weapons is great fun
>Despite all this, punching things to death is more satisfying than whacking them thanks to the floaty animations
I want to love Melee/Unarmed, but the absurd stat and level requirements before you're actually a competent fighter leave me disappointed.
c75879 No.13751646
>>13751535
Melee It would work if guns weren't as common in NV as they are in the first 2 FO games. Where often random gangs would have 3 - 4 guys with spears or knives and 2 or 3 with guns.
9da3e1 No.13752289
>>13742874
Why does thew 1970 pic show western tourists?
c0f436 No.13752522
>start Fallout 1
>two cool cinematics play
>pick my character, decide to be a charismatic girl that can stab if needed
>get thrown into a cave with rats
>rats keep biting me, I have about 50% chance to hit despite putting points into right attributes
>once I get out of the cave I am greeted with a shitty map with squares, no actual in-game, stuff, use your imagination
>random encouter with radscorpion
>spend most of my stimpaks, severely beaten
>continue until I meet a caravan
>everyone there refuses to speak with me or do any business
>get to junktown
Is it going to get better? Is it like Morrowind, where you need to do some preparation and go level up your skills before the combat becomes bearable and you aren't fucked in every situation?
da53da No.13752579
>>13734935
I can not believe this.
>>13752522
You just have to play the game, anon.
How the fuck did you end up in Junktown before shady sands? Are you retarded?
ce3a06 No.13752648
>>13752522
Just play Fallout 4, anon.
4a355a No.13752674
>>13752648
I greatly appreciate your uppity dismissive attitude.
>>13752579
I just decided to explore and went south. I went the correct way the second time.
c75879 No.13752675
>>13752522
Only the bad can survive the wasteland, are you bad enough Anon?
>>13752648
You ain't bad.
b0be61 No.13752817
>>13748263
In your first playthrough if you are going in blind you are probably going to lose because of shitty building. It's just part of the game if you feel underpowered it's because you did something wrong.
0e6bbc No.13752840
c591f8 No.13753047
>>13752817
Made it to NCR and did the quest for the area involving Vault 15.
The only issue I have is if a group of enemies surrounds and targets me as long as enemies focus on my team mates I win the encounter.
After completing the quest I now have 12k caps and plan to either get into Westin's Ranch, or start looking for the other part for the car then go town to town and buy up Stimpacks with all the extra weapons I have.
cf9829 No.13753251
>>13750623
4 EN is optimal and Lifegiver is nice but it's really not that difficult to get away with dumping EN once you've got decent armor. That said, even 1 CH gives you a single follower, which is fine unless you're an incorrigible packrat. Sulik is also absolutely brutal when you put a Sharpened Spear in his hands. Like, goddamn he will fucking wreck shit. When you get the Super Sledge he's an absolute god of melee (but he does really well with the .223 pistol if you're so inclined). That all having been said, take Gifted and Small Frame and you don't have to dump ANYTHING.
>>13751535
Melee is very viable. Unarmed is harder. For melee, you want to do Honest Hearts DLC as soon as you think you can handle it.
cf9829 No.13753361
>>13752522
Mistakes you probably made:
1. You seem to think %50 is bad. That's actually decent for the start of the game. Learn to shoot and scoot - rats have shitty AP and it's pretty easy to make them waste them if you move strategically. Even in that cave.
2. You should go to the nearest town you see, which is Shady Sands. You wasted a ton of time fucking off directly to Junktown.
3. You can get the Overseer to give you more supplies, believe it or not.
4. Run from random encounters like that, early on. They aren't worth it. You should be able to outrun early radscorpions if you have as much agility as you say you do.
5. Use First Aid instead of blowing stimpaks. Even if your First Aid skill is low, just use it over and over again until you can't anymore. First Aid is fine for rat bites.
0439be No.13753461
>>13753251
>For melee, you want to do Honest Hearts DLC as soon as you think you can handle it.
For the War Club?
cf9829 No.13753483
>>13753461
AKA The Slayer of Gods. Upgraded, the War Club is absolutely absurd. Upgraded and with all the relevant perks and a bit of chem help it's BROKEN and will destroy absolutely everything.
Honorable mentions to the Thermal Lance, Super Sledge, Ripper and the upgraded Baseball Bat for early work. Melee is spoiled for good choices in NV, really.
0439be No.13753582
>>13753483
Ah, so I assume this would be a Heavy Handed build. I remember loving the War Club, but I generally don't base builds around the DLC weapons because they're a PITA to obtain. I guess I'll make a Heavy Handed build and throw crits out the window this time, although it'll suck to miss out on all the free money from the casinos.
cf9829 No.13753608
I absolutely love the sound the Baseball Bat makes when it connects. Most satisfying sound in NV.
c591f8 No.13753989
Lmao, this encounter.
Walked out of it with robes that are OP.
I dont think the NPC had anything to do with the Master, it was just a lol so random refence to Monty Python. Made me laugh though when he exploded.
Got my car, and now I decided to kill Metzger, his fucking attitude pissed me off to no end. Killed him, but now the slaves are attacking me, I wanted to do a good thing.
Had a save before I decided to shoot up the place.
cf9829 No.13754108
>>13753989
That happens occasionally, it's a known bug IIRC. I know I was able to kill the Slaver's Guild once without killing the slaves but I don't remember if that was with or without the killap restoration patch. Pretty sure there's a Ranger quest where you can whack the Slaver's Guild later on anyway without issue
cf9829 No.13754135
>>13753989
Also
>10mm AP
pic related
just sell your AP ammo when you find it, it's not even worth using most of the time
c591f8 No.13754375
>>13754108
It ended up that not all the slaves attacked, just a few house niggas.
I hope this car was worth while, I trekked all over the place till I got that Wrench. My goal is finish up any small quests in the starting areas, Klamath, Gecko, Vault City maybe Redding, to try and get a few levels.
Dont know why people give Fallout 2 a bad rap, been throughly enjoying my playthrough.
fd6cac No.13754394
>>13753989
Fallout 1 or 2 were always filled with small Monty python references or other movie/tv show jokes. If i remember correctly there were even MORE planned but they were cut out of the game due to time or just because they were unfinished.
da53da No.13755647
>>13752674
I'm just baffled. You failed as both an RPG player and a normal player. No character, regardless of intelligence, would do this. Unless They were a supreme hedonist. Are you, or is your character, a homo?
1fe7cc No.13755794
>>13751535
>i can't take down the apex predators in the wasteland bare handed
>so unfair
You have the jsawyer installed. You should understand why it makes perfect sense for you to be assblasted by a flock of deathclaws.
c80995 No.13755811
>>13744398
underrated post
0439be No.13756054
>>13755794
When did I say it's unfair? The whole point of my testing was to see which out of Melee and Unarmed performed better in clearing out Dead Wind cavern, and Melee proved to be far superior thanks to the Mauler special attack. Besides, JSawyer has little to do with this; if anything, it's BLEED's increase of limb and head damage multipliers that makes them harder to survive against.
c591f8 No.13761371
Crushing it now.
Getting the GECK was probably harder than anything post GECK so far.
The fact that you can just pass a couple speech checks and steal yourself Power Armor is pretty game breaking honestly. If I had a steady source to getting ammo for the FN FAL I would be able to burst kill everything I come across in 1-2 rounds.
I assume once I actually have to start facing opponents with Power Armor will need a weapon the ignores armor.
Also why the fuck does Vic run away from EVERY fucking encounter ? Its absolutely frustrating, I gave him a Sniper, good armor and he still runs. Also, I cant stand when companions just dont attack, for what ever reason and just stand in place the WHOLE fight.
215f1e No.13761429
>>13761371
>"Also why the fuck does Vic run away from EVERY fucking encounter ? Its absolutely frustrating, I gave him a Sniper, good armor and he still runs. Also, I cant stand when companions just dont attack, for what ever reason and just stand in place the WHOLE fight."
If you replay the game eventually, you can use the "Sfall" mod/script to give you control over your teammates in combat. This makes you incredibly overpowered, but you can enjoy it for a while
1859f7 No.13761672
>>13761371
Vic runs away because he is genetically inferior.
d4eb0c No.13761743
>>13761371
Protip:
pistols and shots to the eyes kill anything and ignores armour.
c591f8 No.13770501
Any way to get my companions into the Oil Rig without setting the whole base after me ?
I have managed to get and clear the third floor, both times though I lost one companion that I dont want to lose namely Sulik and Cassidy, the other two stupid shit Vic and Brainbot I could care less about.
Combat wise we can handle the Enclave, its just the AI making dumb decision that gets them killed, ie running into a fucking machine gun turret. Both Sulik and Cassidy both have power armor as well.
I wonder if dumping Vic (no power armor) and Brainbot would allow us to pass into the base undetected. Also, its weird but I swear the Power Armor set I gave to Cassidy is bugged sometimes, its like he gets hit for full damage.
c591f8 No.13772900
Well made it to the end.
Fuck, the Shi are such an interesting group. I would love to see whast they did with San Francisco in years past for the lore of the series.
>knowing that we will most likely never get it
>even if we do it will be
>a betheseda botch job
>a shell obisidian using bethesedas scraps to piece something together