/v/ - Video Games

>>13726027

why you lying? on the internet of all places

>they're not even finished making them yet

How? Fans figured out how to do this years ago and you kept shutting them down, not only did they figure out how to do it. They did it with multiple expansions not just fucking vanilla.

>>13726074

It might be the classic game, but blizzard will fuck it up regardless. On top of that they will still implement micro-transactions, which will kill the entire point of legacy servers.

>trusting nu-blizz

They'll soil the fucking memory of it.

Bastards wouldn't have waited this long unless they were desperate.

>>13726108

Because they are desperate. Like I said, no more giant big bad villain, just faction vs faction in all out war is the main focus of the expac; that is why I surmise this will be the last expac and the reason why they have to keep milking this cow by making vanilla servers.

But it's not finished yet. They're still working on it. It might come out when Valve released Half-Life 3.

>>13726124

>last expansion

Nah they're padding it out because they invented the Void Lords which are the new biggest bad. You'll have this expansion, the expansion that defeats the Burning Legion, another filler expansion and then the Void expansion. Blizzard need to milk their drones for as long as they can.

>>13726135

Aww, man please don't jinx it. I really want to see this shit parade end already,

So why are they fighting now? Didn't they go to space to fight the final boss?

>>13726146

But it's not ending. They just rebooted the whole thing. You think they won't redo the entire progression once more?

>>13726146

Don't worry anon you've only got another twenty or thirty years of it.

>>13726170

>redo the entire progression

Jesus christ.

Please don't say that. That's evil even for Blizzard's standards.

>>13726190

Well if they want to get more life out of it, make it so that the world goes in a different direction after lich king, maybe he actually survives or some crap.

>>13726194

>they will find a way to fuck it up

"Classic Access" being a premium over the regular subscription. Calling it now.

>>13726200

This.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/926524486387515392

HHAHAHAHAHAHAH

To be fair I was part of those people thinking they never would do this. But they went and did it the madmen. The only concern is how will they fuck it up place your bets

>Add garrisons or other casual shit in

>Make it a reskin of the current xpac meaning nothing changes.

>Add microtransactions and loot crates

>>13726027

sasuga blizzard

>>13726200

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>>13726194

I think for a lot of people it might end up being a "too little too late" sort of thing given how long its been asked for, and how often and willing they've been to shut it down. They've had chance after chance to demonstrate some modicum of goodwill, instead they shut down servers, laugh in the fans' faces and pocket the remaining dosh from the drones.

>>13726254

People upset you can't just mash shit anymore.

>>13726166

I do not know, I mean the whole trailer was just Alliance and Horde bashing each other in with Sylvanas and Anduin calling their OP power for plot just to put on the show. The expac name is "Battle for Azeroth" by the way.

>>13726170

>>13726183

>>13726190

That remains to be seen. I surmise some old grognards will go back to it, but this is not 2004. Some actually have lives now, and the casual scum and Cata-babies would not touch that shit from the reactions I saw, so I doubt the longevity of it if the Classic has only like 300k players comprised of only wizards. They probably would not do progression …

You know what, as I am typing this shit. I just have a flash of nightmare. Progression yes. But they will do another TIMELINE of WoW entirely and expand on that vanilla server differently. We are in this ride for another 30 years chaps.

>>13726194

I will not lie. I got a little hyped about vanilla, but then again those days are behind me. And since Cata, I really do not really have much reason to give money to Activision. Blizzard? Yeah, old Blizzard maybe. But not (((them))).

>>13726190

But anon, Blizzard has no standards.

>>13726232

Dunno what to feel about Jon anymore. Wish he was still doing unscripted stuff while playing games.

>>13726267

I guarantee that is a blizzard employee.

>>13726268

Great, the opening cinematic is basically the start of the expansion with the battle for lordaeron being the very beginning, Welp Sylvanas is dead…

Cinematic is high quality as usual.

https://hooktube.com/jSJr3dXZfcg

Though coming from a person who's never played WoW and only knows the lore up until the end of Frozen Throne (without the books or supplementary material) I gotta say a lot of these characters, factions and races looks unfamiliar to me.

>>13726329

Overwatch is an SJW pandering game, people. Get with the facts.

>>13726338

>a lot of these characters, factions and races looks unfamiliar to me.

It's fanfiction tier, you haven't missed anything worthwhile.

>>13726027

No date though, he just said it would take a long time. Watch them pull the same scam they did with Diablo where you get it if you stay subbed to WoW for a year or something.

>>13726338

Don't even bother with trying to catch up with whats going on now. You can waste your time/life in much much better ways. Besides, the quality of its content is worse than shit. I think I've read fan-fics that were better than what Blizz has done so far.

>>13726240

This. This is the post.

>oh hey neat i might play that

followed immediately by

>hang on whats the bullshit catch

Because we all know theres another shoe thats gonna drop.

>>13726420

>shoe thats gonna drop.

More like a bomb.

>>13726194

The interesting part is all the drones that stuck with the game are screaming that Horde vs Alliance is 'boring' and 'ruins the game' WHEN THE LAST EXPANSION HAD FUCKING SPACESHIPS RIGHT OUT OF STARCRAFT AND FUCKING INTERPLANETARY TRAVEL

>there are people whose first online game was WoW

>these same people will never play any other game

>these same people will play it until it dies or they die

>they won't be able to play anything else

>>13726420

I sincerely doubt they'll even go through with it. This reeks of desperate marketing and they're banking on everyone forgetting about it just like how everyone seems to have forgotten about "YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T".

>>13726437

Didn't they have !notZerg enemies (including hive structures) in one of the high level desert areas near Ah'Kiraj vanilla?

>>13726417

archives please

This is a stupid amount of gay people to be working for a company, even for blizzard that I gotta see proof

How the fuck did they find so many faggots when they're such a small percentage of the population? Jesus christ

>>13726426

>Subscriptions to games is new to PC

hello newfag

>>13726452

California.

>>13726451

Qiraji were egyptian bugs, they weren't really that similar compared to actual spaceships flying around.

>>13726444

This entire show reeked of 'we need play retention'. More 'f-free OP cards!' from hearthstone, making fucking sctarcraft 2 free to play AND vanilla WoW servers?

They must be doing bad in some departments over others. I saw diablo get a bigger cheer than hearthstone and morheims fake smile dropped for a second with a look of 'oh fuck we didnt get the right audience' during the opening.

>>13726483

I think Destiny 2 underperforming has something to do with this. Remember that Overwatch and Destiny are the result of that alleged Titan game falling through.

>>13726483

>SC2

>free to play

Wait wait wait. What? When the hell did they make it p2p? Did they really make it pay to play?

>>13726923

No you nigger, it was always pay once to play forever

Now its going to become completely f2p from what it sounds like

>>13726074

It very well could be the final expansion. They added so many things that have been requested since the very first days. South Seas content, subraces, and possibly old gods content as well.

>>13726194

all they need to mess it up are SJW GMs

thats it

>>13726311

why would it be? it was announced by blizzard

>>13727040

Forgot to mention, level cap 120 as well. Double the original, so this would be a good stopping point.

>>13726934

It's kinda f2p currently. You get a free version that can't be used in ranked.

But you get access to the full game if you have someone in your party who bought it

>Blizzkikes

Reminder to save your shekels from the Blizzkikes. They don't deserve it.

>>13726027

>overcuck

>>>/reddit/

>>13726027

>legacy servers

8 years too late. Fuck Blizzard

>oy vey, goyim, you know you don't want to play an old game like vanillla WoW, so stop asking

>just stop making private servers, you don't want even want them

>don't tell us that you want it, we know you're lying

<h-here's that thing you asked for, please pretend like we're just the fuckin best

Classy move, Blactivision.

>>13727239

Who wants to bet it was Activision saying no.

>>13727308

That wouldn't even make sense.

>>13726452

Video games are gay. You've seen them here. You know why they're here.

>>13726647

What's the context for this scene?

>>13727372

A loli stole his sled

>>13727372

Watch Citizen Kane.

So from what I understand it's not just them going "you don't want this" It's also some technical reasons behind it which recent articles elaborated on.

This is nu-blizzard so I'm waiting to see HOW they fuck this up. However from the article it seems like all we're gonna get is vanilla WoW with slightly better graphics and the ability to switch between old nad new graphics.

>trusting Pozzard

>After Overcuck and years of ignoring the call for a return to vanilla WoW

If any of you buy into this, you deserve whatever hell they throw at you.

>>13726027

People seem to be forgetting one important thing:

Vanilla private servers was buggy as shit cause MangOS and all its derivatives are shit, and a lot of quests and monsters and skills were unbalanced or downright broken because no one had access to actual stats, either because it's been lost in the sands of time, or because it was simply never recorded on the internet properly.

Even if Blizzard finds a way to turn this into a cash shop nightmare of nu-vanilla, it's a great thing for vanilla private servers, since they'll now not only have access to all that data they were missing, but also a modern build of the client that has proper addon API and doesn't shit itself just because you try running it at a 2017 resolution.

If Blizzard pisses vanilla fans off too much I can guarantee you someone will use the material Blizzard is supplying them to make a proper vanilla private server, with cash shop level boosts and heirlooms and every other "Quality of life change" disabled.

>>13738550

Vanilla was also just a buggy piece of shit regardless, but not having the code certainly didn't help

>>13738550

>make a proper vanilla private server

That won't be shut down, surely

I am happy this is happening because now all the wow private servers will have to gitgud or die.

Nothing is more autistic than the people who run them and nothing would make me happier than for them to be assmad.

>>13726097

They're probably going to do something like give you an hour of game time for the classic server in a loot box that you get by playing the live game. Or some other fucking scheme to get you to waste time on that shit

I played WoW for two months in 2007 and never picked it up again. It's so fucking boring doing nothing but grinding for hours to get better equipment to grind even more.

>>13738700

How old were you? I didn't really like it when I was a kid but when I played the vanilla servers as an adult I loved it

>>13738704

I was 20

The community that wanted a game like classic WoW is long gone. Blizzard is making this for WoW's current community. It won't be anything like what you're hoping for.

So I've been seeing screenshots go around but don't care enough to actually look… did Blizzard announce a new game that straight up coppies 40k but adds more diversity and stronk women?

>>13739436

No, it's just the back story of a character from overwatch.

wow was never good so only retards care

>>13726452

Cuckfornia: The Pozz County

>>13739450

gotcha

>>13727372

A relationship he didn't want to end just ended. This is especially hard for him because he hates not having power.

The snow globe reminds him of the last time he was truly happy.

Watch the movie, it's good.

>getting upset at vanilla servers

why? that's a good thing

better late than never

>>13738589

Lol there's a server hosted in … Bulgaria or the Czech Republic or somewhere in east europe that have been up and running now for years. Blizzard hasn't taken them down because they can't, because the host don't give a shit (because east europe).

They even paid for several "official" advertisements on bus stations and such, promoting their servers a "free alternative to Blizzard's wow".

All it takes is for someone to make the actual server software good, and then someone in said country to host a server outside of Blizzard's lawyer army's jurisdiction and Blizz is fucked.

>>13726452

Faggots, furries, degenerate sex groups, secret societies, political organizations, and jews are all insanely nepotistic and WILL get their fellow members jobs if allowed to, usually claiming them as 'good friends'. It snowballs from there.

>>13738550

>>13738564

Problem isn't the code, problem is a vanilla database which Blizzard doesn't have.

>>13740275

Even when they had the database during actual vanilla the game was really buggy

>>13738727

I was 104 when WoW came out and I enjoyed it.

>>13738696

That is a retarded idea that won't work because the chance of profit off classic would be too low. We will probably just get a sub model like the old days. Remember this is VANILLA, gold isn't thrown at you like in live. You'd be lucky to have enough gold when you hit 40 for mount and the training.

>>13738845

Not true. there are enough people that would "happily pay for official legacy servers". There is some crossover with the people who play private servers.

>>13738417

wouldn't be vanilla anymore.

>>13726200

>Classic Access subscriptions, require normal subscriptions

>Loot boxes that drop raid gear based on the tier you buy

>Cosmetic items also in more expensive loot boxes

>LFG and raid finder still included

>Hunters don't have ammo

>Extra paid service to get a quest helper

>Additional quests to reach max level

>Classes 'tweaked' to not scare away noobs

>Simplified classes

>Races have less class restrictions

>50/50 chance of Alliance shaman and Horde paladins

>Paid pets

>Paid mounts

>Pay to look like new races

>Pay to get new race abilities

>No racial skills in classes

>>13726329

Wasn't Vanilla plenty "diverse" enough? Also, MoP was decent if you ignored some of the story.

>>13742482

Already the guy is on record stating it's going to be 1:1 vanilla. We're getting or should be getting according to the interview available the original vanilla experience.

It seems the issue is they'd have to run essentially TWO mmos at the same time. It seems they DO have old builds laying about from what was hinted at and they're trying to rework it so the engine plays a bit nicer with newer hardware.

Just fucking make soul shards stack

Please

>>13740261

I wish anons could do this. We could do so much good, or at least combat the poz spread. It's a shame all our tells could be replicated by some memeing newfags.

inb4

>just hire the most qualified valuable people

I hate to admit it, but that's how these groups get their foot in the door. All it takes is one seemly high qualified rational person who is a member of one of those groups to get a hiring position and you're flooded.

>>13726027

what kind of subhuman would be playing blizzard games in the current year?

Is it wrong that i want it to have random dungeon finder?

Finding groups is so boring.

Wasn't vanilla mostly good because people reminiscence about it now?

Back then it was unbalanced mess, stormstrike fuckery and shadowbolt one shotting people gg no re

>>13743737

Look, vanilla was a product of the time, nothing more. It had horrible pacing, worse leveling, bugs out the ass, horrible balance with several classes being flat useless for most content, but it was a lot of people's first exposure to the MMO genre, so they have delusions about this massive community that never really happened. The user clutter provides the defense that it's hardcore when a majority of content was braindead easy and the walk to the dungeon was harder than the dungeon itself.

People tend to only remember the good parts of something, not the two hours spent waiting for a group for wailing caverns/UBRS/whatever to form. The awful attunement nonsense for raids that took weeks of busy work or large amounts of money. WoW has always been a shitshow, vanilla was a user unfriendly shitshow that was mostly un-datamined so there was a decently immersive world.

>>13743083

you can just get a 28 slot soul bag

hunters also devote a whole bag slot to their class; the quiver or ammo pouch

>>13744700

a whole bag*

>>13744700

The thing is the quiver and the side bags were optional. At least for hunters. The reason WHY you used a quiver was it gave a auto attack speed increase. THe better the quiver the higher the auto attack percentage. I think the best you could get in vanilla was like a 18% increase and that was with that purple tier quiver you got from the epic bow quest.

>>13743021

They might patch out bugs. Who knows, but we have little info and from waht has been told it's still pretty much in the very early stages of development

>>13744721

I hope they manage to get it out in less than a year. Though I'm afraid they're gonna hold onto it until their new ex pack starts losing subs (which will be pretty quickly, it looks like garbage). So 2 or so years from now. It shouldn't take long, most of the content is done already, they just need to fix the scripting and data. I'm probably gonna try to forget it about for a while.

Someone explain to me why vanilla WoW is any better then current WoW. Aside from the numbers properly scaled from start to finish, which I can completely understand as a good reason, but that can't be the only reason.

>>13750504

>World felt more alive.

>No flying mounts so people couldn't just pop a mount and escape being ganked

>No LFG meant you had to travel world and interact with people to run dungeons.

>Before battlemasters in the major cities you had to travel to the BG portals and Q there. Lots of faction fighting and mingling

>Even before BGs had to go out into the world and kill people, roving gank squads were fun

>Sense of accomplishment without the need of an achievement which paved the way for a load of shit in wrath.

>>13750504

Much of the appeal of older games isn't in good design, but in the clunky design that somehow comes together and makes a pretty picture.

Old World of Warcraft had a lot of weird-ass design decisions that nobody would repeat these days. But that's not a bad thing; that weird variation between classes and races is what makes them interesting.

Secondly, the old World of Warcraft is actually more of a MMO in the sense that you have to interact with other people to get shit done. A lack of dungeon finder meant you had to communicate with others to get a dungeon going. 40 man raids aren't challenging in terms of game mechanics, but challenging in actually getting those other 39 idiots to work together for just that one fucking encounter.

>>13726074

After being reminded of the intro cinematic, I can't remember a single gnome being in any cinematic.

Is my memory erasing them or were they that much of an afterthought?

>>13751039

Both gnomes and trolls didn't get into the cinematic. They also both were the races that didn't have their own capital.

As someone that played classic through to cataclysm I've got to ask, why is it that people think spamming general chat with LFG for half an hour every time you want to do a dungeon is better than the group finder? Of all the things that changed as the game went on I never found that one to be detrimental.

<it's true

Fuck everything. They're only in it for the shekels and nostalgiafags will finally get the cold hard truth that vanilla fucking sucks. Enjoy your frost shock and faceroll warriors with fag reapers.

>>13751093

Because you actually have to interact with the local server 'community' to get anything done. Dungeon and Raid finder removes the aspect of having to be a part of the game and turns it into a single player game with multiplayer afterthought.

>>13739775

What server is this?

Can you imagine being a Blizzard employee that came on after lich king? The player base saying the changes you made are shit and the original is better? That dispite working their multi colored heads off they can get people excited for the new shit? That your work has been hemorrhaging players, expansion after expansion. And the only hope to keep your job, is to bow to the entitled cis lords and make vanilla servers.

I bet Blizzard, internally, is depressed as fuck.

>>13751160

Yelling LFG in general chat while one other member of your party does the same in the nearest main city isn't what I'd call meaningful interaction with the community.

>unironic World of Warcraft thread

Cancer.

This new expansion makes me realize that Blizzard won't ever be able to make WC4 because Warcraft is tied up in WoW. This expansion seems like their attempt to create the closest possible thing. I guess it's not so bad, because I wouldn't want modern Blizzard making WC4 anyway.

>>13751341

Prozac must be handed out like candy in the offices.

>Stupid CISlords! They don't want gaming perfection!

>Why don't they want our diversity?

>Why don't they want our epic storytelling?

>Why do they want the bad old shit?

>WHAT DO YOU MEAN A VANILLA PRIVATE SERVER WENT UP! KILL IT WITH FIRE AND SUE THE PARENTS!