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>>13717333

>Ultimate Apocalypse

Shit tier. Get FoK

>>13717336

does Firestorm over Kaurava have good balance?

I will admit UA balance is complete fuckup

>>13717345

Forgot to turn off the fucking flag, goddamn

>>13717345

Chaos has a lot of huge "fuck your shit" abilities, but that's probably the point, for example the sorcerer has the same spell from vanila but it deals more damage, bigger morale damage and larger aoe

Other than that, as far as I know it's alright. Spess muhreens are the same but with more special snowflake units, ig requires korean micromanagement levels, tau can only fight long range, etc. The most radical change is how certain damage types wont affect certain armor types, this happened to me several times but mostly on ig:

>start game

>handful of tier 1 untis

>enemy marine/ultra heavy hero unit shows up

>deal 0 damage and forced to retreat

Same applies for buildings, but that makes more sense. This only happens with lasguns and shitty bolters, and heavier weapons deal much more damage than usual

The problem with UA is that it is made to always play until late game, and late game is really hard to finish. Also, goddamn the sororitas are ugly in UA

>>13717413

literally who

>>13717413

Even in his defeat he just leaves saying he'll get revenge someday. He won't.

You can just add making the orks led by some ork pretending to be Gorgutz the canon victors to the list of shit Dawn of Assfaggots 3 fucked up.

>>13717445

>How does FoK beta 3 for SS compare to Fok 3.6 for DC

No idea, I remember playing firestorm over kronus years ago (probably a decade ago) but not any details. In theory, more developement means more quality nut it might as well be ruined with stupid decisions (vanila dark crusade to soulstorm)

All I know that the soulstorm version does for sure is:

AI rework, a bunch of pathing and combat tweaks that are in the game, but I cant really tell what they do. Once thing I noticed is that AI players dont do retarded back and forth moves when they retreat

More units, specially for necrons and chaos

Production buildings need a generator next to them to work (except hq)

I think the kronus mod had a inquisiton faction, but they have sororitas units now

>>13717580

Worse Case Scenario Space Marine II using DOW III Engine

>>13717336

Don't you mean purgation of kaurava? that mod is fucking metal, i wish i had someone to play with

>>13717673

Well I just downloaded it and I'm up for some multiplayer

>>13717679

>>13717673

I just got it working as well, though I'm probably late to the game.

Man, this is way fucking different from SS having never played TT very seriously

>>13718003

nuffin had been started yet

>>13717679

>>13718003

Where we gonna play, steam? Some third party network?

Which version, beta3 or beta2? got both

>>13718044

>beta3 or beta2

Moddb only had alpha 1.53

and I just remembered my SS is a cracked version anyway, so it probably wouldn't werk unless 3rd party network, but I have no idea which are out there because I've never played MP DoW (other than a little of DoW2)

>>13718063

You are looking at outdated mod

>After a long break due to a breakdown of the original team, we are merging the Purgation of Kaurava and Firestorm over Kaurava modifications. This modification is the result of that merge and will STILL be Firestorm over Kaurava.

They have Beta2 here http://www.moddb.com/mods/dawn-of-warhammer-40k-firestorm-over-kronus/downloads/beta-firestorm-over-kaurava-2

and Beta3 http://www.mediafire.com/download/4jcm30tu87eenfc/FirestormoverKronusBeta3.rar

Mediafire download is fucking slow

>>13718082

Good to know that it wasn't the final version, this one had some really fucky behavior. No upgrading units if they aren't standing still, no explanation why certain upgrades weren't available, etc.

I guess I'll get beta3, then? Unless they're more of a fork of each other than progressively improved/bug-fixed versions?

guys i don't have time to play purgation of kaurava with you but i will if you give me your steam or contact info or w/e and we can play maybe friday

>>13718108

Let's all agree on Beta3 then - do you have that one yet? We should try to do as much prep work as possible. See >>13718082

I'm sure this thread will still be up tomorrow, but if not, let's keep it alive so we can accumulate other parties. I'll bookmark it/keep it alive in a browser tab.

Steam is linkdude64

>>13718134

It really is. Everyone in the industry used to be about having fun and making cool shit, now it's like going to a fucking church or something where you can't wear/say/think certain things. What a fucking waste.

Oh well. At least we have this site because some cripple in extreme pain wanted to keep true freedom alive on the internet when clearly nobody else does. Seriously, take a step back and look around. This is the last uncucked and un-coopted website left on the entire. fucking. internet. No other country has the freedom of speech protections we do.

Are the Tau a really strong race in vanilla dark crusade or am I just terrible? I was playing as Necrons and it took me forever to do their base mission in the campaign.

>>13718160

necrons are the most overpowered fags there are in the entire game, you just suck very hard.

>>13718165

I figured they would be an easy race due to the lore and how they were portrayed in the IG ending of winter assault. I think I did so poorly since I mostly pumped out the basic soldiers and flayed ones for their teleport ability for infantry instead of mixing in immortals and supporting them with tomb spyders to put them back together

>>13718181

Is the doc their primarch?

fucking flags

>>13717333

What's the best faction and why is it orks?

>>13719820

The Sisters of Battle has had their models updated like 3 fucking times now in every new update, it's getting ridiculous seeing models that clearly look like their from a 2005 game collide with models that look like their from a fucking Trip A game from current year.

>>13719839

no I get you utterly on that and it extends down to the bloody audio as well, half the mod I'm convinced is just lifted models from dow2 and various other little mods

>>13719820

>>13719917

UA is made by a russian moder that shamelessly steal assets, so the whole thing is put together with stolen assets. It's not his own effort, but the thing that looks good do because he stole them, and the ones that don't is because he can' improve them since he can't stole models or textures to improve them.

>>13717413

>Gorgutz won

Glad I never bought that shit.

>>13717497

>>13723524

Gorgutz was stupid in general. He was practically a meme character. Where others might die, Gorgutz always returned, because he was just that good. It was dumb.

>>13723549

>He was practically a meme character

There was nothing wrong with this tbh, some of my favorite lines came from him. His temperament fits with the Ork unit's voice lines in general

>Gorgutz always returned, because he was just that good.

He's not that good you git, even Gorgutz said so himself. He runs away from meaningless defeats so he could 'ave anuver go at 'em 'umies next time.

>>13724099

He also tells a brown-nosing Ork that he isn't as good as ghazghkull.

>>13717413

>implying

Anything nuRelic says its false, vance's victory isthe only way for blood ravens to be defeated in kaurava and still have some marines survive, but of course, they dont give 2 shit about the lore or common sense.

>install campaign mod for dark crusade

>lots of new units, ultimate apocalypse dc version

>my main base gets assaulted

>kill enemy base and all his units

>my 2 squads with commanders are max experience and have 20k hp each

>game is not over

>run around map like an idiot

>see enemy base in another area

>titans get stuck, they can't pass through so have to fight without

>he just build some main buildings and 30 upgraded turrets

>quit after 1 hour and a half of pure grind and agony

Why are all the campaign mods so utter and complete shit?

>>13726480

Because most modders have zero sense of scale or balance and add as much sensless shit as they possibly can which rat-fucks the campaign to death.

I get that people like having their mod reference the source material but scrolling over 9+ variants of the Baneblade with shitty russian translation descriptions is not fun.

The only mod I ever found that made the Campaign tolerable for Soulstorm was corncobmans mod mostly because it didn't radically change everything about the game like most mods.

Reminder that you should spank all Eldar!

Playing through all of the original campaigns. On Dark Crusade currently. Is DoWII this good?

>>13742472

yeah its good, also anon take this mod, http://www.moddb.com/mods/wrath-of-the-blood-ravens

Make DOW II Campaign Better (Increase Squad Size and New Weapons and armor for your squads)

>>13717407

Tau plasma rifles are incapable of destroying buildings in FoK last I played it. So you need something bigger than infantry to fuck up buildings. In general, FoK Tau are much more crisis suit focused, with infantry acting as chaff and fire support.

>>13742472

DoW2 is a very different beast. Its an ARPG mixed with an RTT.

>>13737777

Funny you say that since we just had a World in Conflict gamenight

>>13742472

the DOWII campaign, from the base game without expansions that is, is very good indeed, they even let you carry on progress if you decide to play the Chaos Rising campaign, a nice touch you don`t see much of it lately.

The RETRIBUTION campaign is just as good but maybe a little bit streamlined since it`s the same thing to all races, everything else is pretty much the same thing

>>13742588

>still no Dawn of War Soulstorm Ultimate Apocalypse campaign mod

>>13742801

I meant with official support, I tried that and the AI isn`t very smart with her unit composition and quantity, it`s really underwhelming in comparison to what you can actually do