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They do this shit so you goyim can stop asking for demos

Has anybody beaten a level yet?

Knowing Sanic fans, somebody has probably mustered up the autism to do it.

>>13667102

Yes.

Looks like another shitty Sonic game where you're either going Z0MG mph or walking.

Also holy shit the graphics are somehow worse than Generations.

>>13667168

Looks like another Sonic game where there's a casual barrier. Easy to complete and finish the game, but casuals who literally can't do under 1 min in the demo are getting filtered out and complaining it's impossible. So basically a good time trial sort of game, in the same vein as generations.

Fug. Sonic Mania was really Segas lucky break and even that denuvo.

>>13667184

Did you try two pass? It takes longer is all.

>>13667195

>>13667184

Yeah just do it with "pass=1" and then with "pass=2", first pass takes a few seconds, then second pass takes as normal but produces better quality compression.

Are they gonna pretend Generations didn't happened?

>>13667337

>didn't happened

>>13667358

>>13667337

I generally hate lorefags in most video games but why would they do that? the game is basically Generations 2.

>no momentum in the movements

>the level background is more interesting than the level itself

This is just colors 2.0 but somehow worse.

>Linear as fuck level design.

>60 second time limit for levels that you can get through two thirds of in that time.

>OC character weapons break the game.

>Enemies don't attack you at all in 3D segments.

Fucking unreal. After three great games in the boost style you'd think they'd know what works and would be able to avoid making levels designed this fucking badly. Hopefully the later levels will be better designed. :'(

Also, whoever designed this boss needs to be fist bumped to death.

>this fucking straight line

>one minute long, somebody beat it anyway

>no idle animation

I had hope in this game after Generations, but now I know it's just going to be a huge disappointment. What is it with every "X5"th Sonic anniversary?

>5th: 3D Blast

>15th: 06 and Genesis

>25th: Mania's Denuvo disaster and Forces

>>13667459

>This is just colors 2.0

sonic rush simulator 2017 with elevator music

that green text was a mistake btw*

Never played a 3D Sonic but watching SA1 gives me more pleasure and comfyness than these bland new ones.

>>13667979

Agreed. Like they need to ditch the boost formula all together and get Yuji Naka back.

>>13669563

Sega already layed the groundwork for how 3D Sonic should feel with Super Monkey Ball. I don't know why they never put 2 and 2 together. Add a jump button and robots to kill and you're two thirds of the way there.

>>13669733

I never explored the later games in this series. This one even has a jump and boss fights. Fucking Sega, look. Look what you did. You were almost there.

>>13667063

I'm of two minds on this. On one hand this isn't even meant for a US release, so reviewers and the like who are assmad at the length of a demo that isn't even for them should probably neck themselves. On the other hand I feel like this is almost intolerable to watch after having played Sonic Mania and the short length is doing everyone a favor.

Who really fucking needs another Sonic-on-rails homingattacklulz game?

>>13669776

Did you use the drop dash?

>>13669971

its for a different audience than sonic mania.

>>13669971

>this isn't even meant for a US release

How does that make it excusable?

>>13670055

That's just a go fast game where you stick to every surface. No sense of being a ball affected by real physics. Still a hell of a lot better than what Sonic is doing now, but still not quite right.

Green Hill again? Wow.

>>13670096

well i guess they should tone down the wallrunning physics so you cant run on a surface thats greater than 90 degrees away from the ground for more than a very short period of time

cant run on the ceiling though, and if you slow down enough on a wall you fall off, also peelout on walls is buggyits a demo

>>13670095

Different culture = different audience = different mentality behind releasing a demo. To act like this is a fuckup of SEGA's to not give the demo you wanted to another region is just blatant entitlement.

In other words if you circumvent the system and import a demo that describes itself as limited, you probably shouldn't be an assblasted faggot when it is exactly what it says. They obviously didn't release it to western audiences, and the reaction it is getting from autists and professional retards who just can't wait a couple weeks just to play another shitty Sonic game just might be one of the reasons why.

>You can literally hold one button to beat the stage

I never liked the "boost 2 win" meme but holy fuck it's actually warranted here.

>>13670193

Yeah, this is a lot more what I want. The fact that he fails to make it all the way up the halfpipe when he hasn't built enough speed shows they have the right idea.

>>13667487

Speaking of, there's even more red flags.

> Reusing old bosses & Classic Sonic for nostalgia bux- even though the plot probably doesn't need it Infinite might have time powers or some shit

> Characters constantly cheering you on, and even Sonic encouraging you and calling you buddy.

> Music isn't even that good- main theme is OK but title is god awful.

> Classic Sonic's first level can be beaten without jumping- since every wall or raised piece of terrain has a hidden spring in front of it.

Hell there's even a theory that Infinite uses the Phantom Ruby from Sonic Mania so they tried to tie it into Sonic Mania for more appeal.

>>13669892

I never really felt in control in Super Monkey Ball. I get the theory don't get me wrong (and how it handles momentum would work great), but I feel like it needs more control and platforming to feel like Sonic (or at least the 2D). Once momentum is sorted, throw in a button to "brake" so if you need to be precise with jumps you can (and have more control over momentum).

Looks identical to Generations. I get that it was a successful formula that was well received, but it wasn't so great that we needed 3 games (Colors, Gens, now Forces) that play exactly the same. Even Colors at least had the powerups. When are we going to get Sonic Adventure 3? Surely they'll eventually have the balls to just make a game that plays like the speed levels in SA/2

>>13670223

I don't trust current year SEGA to make Adventure 3 to be honest. That and we already have idiots trying to claim they play the exact same as this game anyway.

>>13670211

Well I'm not saying literally make Super Monkey ball with Sonic. In my mind, you'd have separate standing and ball forms. Standing for tighter control, ball for when you want to let the physics carry you.

>>13667063

>T-the sonic cycle was invented by the haters g-guys

>>13670255

On the plus side, Mania at least shows it can be broken.

Just not by anyone at Sega or Sonic Team.

>>13670245

current year SEGA is fine, It's Sonic Team that sucks.

>>13670281

What?

>>13670223

if it was actually identical to Generations I would be ok with that. This looks way worst then Generations and I'm not talking about graphics. The map design & gameplay looks stifled.

>>13670245

I'd rather see it than more of this samey shit or more horrific, gimmicky attempts at "innovation." When it worked, it was way more fun to play than the new boost-into-a-wall simulators.

It's not like they even need to be afraid of it. Sonic/Shadow levels in the Adventure games were well-received, held back only by an occasionally-awkward camera - that's fixable with new technology (I think), and it wasn't even that bad. Plus, the demographic that played the Adventure games as kids is growing up, and in a little bit of time, they could pull the same nostalgia trick they pulled with Sonic Mania.

>>13670281

64/Sunshine/Galaxy formula is good enough that I'll take more of the same, and even then, they add and change more than this demo seems to, relative to Generations. Sidescroller and 3D Land formulas are not good enough to endlessly regurgitate and I'm absolutely sick of them.

>>13670281

What are you talking about, man? People hate it when Nintendo do this. Remember Twilight Princess? Remember NSMB? Remember how everyone hated Miyamoto's decision to strip all of the originality out of Paper Mario?

>>13670387

That's why I said the Sonic/Shadow levels. Just that style should be fleshed out and made into its own game. Barring occasional camera issues and the light dash being finicky, they were a lot of fun. The controls were fine; Sonic and Shadow moved well and didn't get stuck on walls or anything like that. Somersaults were a questionable mechanic, but overall, the game rewarded you for playing well. The controls only got really wonky when the camera messed up, and it really didn't mess up all that often on the Sonic levels unless you fucked up badly.

>>13670409

>Remember how everyone hated Miyamoto's decision to strip all of the originality out of Paper Mario?

That was Tanabe, not Miyamoto.

>>13670555

Still though.

>>13670546

It's garbage the second you try to not hold the direction Sonic goes in scripted sequences like loops and shit.

He keeps his momentum but can turn on a dime, making it really hard to control. Hence why later games take away control so much. Unless Sonic can kill his momentum on a button press, you're going too fast to have any control (whether you have less turning control when going fast, or just the same).

I'm sure there are decent "fast" platformers in 3D, but all I can think of is first person stuff like Clustertruck and Mirror's Edge

>>13670702

>Doesn't feel right if you hold in the direction Sonic is expected to.

Bullshiet. Sonic feels perfect when moving around anywhere. Much more so than the newer 3D games. He never feels like I'm not in control especially when the controls transition from walk to run. Though I agree that it would help a lot if 3D Sonic had a brake button, just as a safety net to people not used to the high speed control.

Also if I recall, this game might have more than 3 acts in a world, maybe 6 like Colors, hence why the stages are short. If that's true then I'm fine with that. I prefer more stages. It's one of the few things I didn't like about Generations when it's just two acts per world.

>>13671007

Toei Sanic is best Sanic.

>>13671029

>Generations was two acts per world.

not if you count the nine challenge missions per world in Generations.

>>13671333

Yeah, but they weren't required. Though maybe they can do the same thing they did with Lost World, but without making the unlocked extra stages bland shoot em ups.

>>13671352

>at their best when they taking themselves too seriously

oh so you are legitimately retarded? I assumed (you) where just pretending.

>>13671419

I don't remember having any issues with having plenty of Flickies.

>>13670702

Maybe if you're shit at the game. Yeah, if you fuck up during the loops, he goes in the wrong direction. You know how to fix this? Just fucking hold forward on the loops. It's admittedly temperamental at the start, but it really isn't hard to learn. And even that issue is as simple as locking controls during scripted sections (although that would be a shame, since it would remove a lot of cool loop skips and things like that). When you're just running around and not autistically holding left on a loop, the movement is quick and responsive, and you're actually running through a level instead of blazing mindlessly through a series of alternating boosts and homing attacks.

>>13671464

If that's what he meant by scripted sections, then I agree yes Adventure sucked hard on the loops.

>>13670181

>it's for a different culture

>that excuses jewing out customers by putting an artificial one minute time limit on every demo level

The Japanese the demo is meant for are getting screwed as much as any westerner who downloaded it. You can't just excuse sloppy business decisions with "it's not meant for you!" Some things just universally hold across human societies.

>>13671516

>>13670181

I thought the one minute time limit was a casual filter?

>>13670223

http://archive.is/dnwNi

>When are we going to get Sonic Adventure 3?

>>13671527

It's probably more to hide how small and simple the levels are. SEGA obviously gave Sonic Team a tiny budget, seeing how much asset reuse is in the game. That, or they spent all the budget on the custom character stuff and not the levels.

>>13671535

The trademark of the "Adventure" games was the multiple playstyles and stories, which I can do without. The thing I remember fondly about Adventure games is the way Sonic levels played, so I can hold out hope.

still, fuck

>>13671464

>You know how to fix this? Just fucking hold forward on the loops

Except for the loops where doing that causes you to fall through the world

http://archive.is/YSYX7

On the bright side, we are living in the timeline where Liru came out and Sega/Sonic Team have clearly changed their minds in the past.

On the other hand, would you be fine with the thought of them outsourcing it to another dev studio like Dimps or Big Red Button and if they actually manage by some miracle to delegate it to fans instead who make it not shit with a chao garden on top to screw everyone over with some baffling decision like fucking it with Denuvo?

>>13671125

God Jap women are annoying

>>13671685

Yeah, I think it's best if Sega did like Disney did for their Renaissance era movies. Replace the old guys with the new guys who were fans of their older material to create something fresh. Maybe rename the new team of Sonic games something like Sonic Team 2 or whatever.

Also, I love Iizuka's previous clarification of why there's no Adventure 3 by straight up saying what many shitty game companies do nowadays:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130531050551/http://www.edge-online.com/features/interview-nights-watchman/

"We want the casual audience"

>>13671702

White women are the only attractive women.

>>13671617

Mutiple game styles could be done well if given to different teams

>>13671603

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>>13671794

>implying i'm just talking about skin color

Jap chicks look like fish

>>13671794

Where's thr cocane?

>>13671708

Wasn't most of Sonic Team fired after the 06, which left Unleashed to be developed by an almost entirely different crew?

>>13672244

There are still some of the old members of Sonic Team working on the games like Takashi, much like how some of the Nine Old Men in Disney animation, specifically Milt Kahl, were still working with Disney even when Disney died.

I'm guessing there is no PC demo?

>>13671685

>On the other hand, would you be fine with the thought of them outsourcing it to another dev studio like Dimps

Dimps is good. I'm aware that they responsible for Sonic 4, but you shouldn't only nitpick this and ignore the other Sonic games they have made, like the Advance and Rush games. They ARE able to recreate the Genesis physics on modern 2D Sonic games, and also able too to make a great Boost game too.

I don't know about who should take the task of creating 3D Sonic games, though. I have always thought Unleashed from Wii was pretty addictive and fun, so I guess if Dimps could study the same specific game and try to expand it to new ways.

LOL

>>13673004

>literally hold right/up to win

>>13671765

>he keeps telling himself that to not disturb the spirit of /pol/ inside of him constantly telling him to not miscegenate, when he is going to die a virgin anyway

Yeah, same old story. Asian women are obviously superior to european ones, its seen on the naked eye. You just lying to yourself.

>>13671794

Asians are for funs only. No babies. That's how Eliot Rogers are born.

>>13671516

> Getting screwed

> by a free demo.

This post is about as millennial as it gets.

>>13673004

Basically this epitomizes Generations in a year where SEGA themselves managed to blow the Generations formula out of the water. I have a feeling this game is going to tank.

>>13673354

Eliot Rodgers is a product of California mentality paired with poor social skills.

>>13673429

That's why every other hapa is a fucking deranged failure like Northernlion right?

>>13673309

In America that is not true for sure. Weak beta males can either get a lard ass white woman or an asian chick. Usually chinese, korean or flip.

>>13673004

>Using the QTE to glitch and freeze the timer.

That's kind of cool.

>>13672244

>Wasn't most of Sonic Team fired after the 06

If that's true then that sounds like a dick move, it's not like it's Sonic teams fault that Sega made them rush the game out before it was finished.

>>13673459

06 was actually on the right path, certain story elements aside. It just needed way more time in development.

It had the right basic ideas. Bring back and expand on what people liked (Sonic stages, playing as lots of characters, hub worlds), and kicked what people didn't like (tedious gameplay for characters who weren't Sonic). The only problem is the lack of a chao garden.

>>13673514

I thought it was the original team members were divided and left with Yuji Naka in the middle of productions, which would explain what happened to the product.

>>13673514

Sega bullied the fuck out of their old employees in the 00's post-Sammy merge.

>>13673553

06 really was starting to get things right, instead of forcing you to do a treasure hunting stage or a mech stage, when you switched to a new character they just played an action stage like Sonic did, but with there own unique move set. it's just that everything was extremely unpolished was the problem.

It's a shame that they through every single gameplay idea into the garbage, except the mach speed sections, they took the worst part of the game and turn that into the future of the franchise.

Boost gameplay is just less shit Mach speed sections.

>>13673626

That sounds sad

>>13673004

hey it's that nigger

>>13667063

Why is Tails a girl now?

>>13673482

Guess you have me there since I have no idea who the fuck that is.

>>13673830

Tails was always secretly a girl.

>>13670193

I'm not much a fan of the 2D ones by preference. But this is essentially what I've been wanting out of the series. Going fast and using momentum in your favor with good timing and being able to plan ahead for how you'll tackle an obstacle.

>>13673873

He has threads on /cow/ and /pol/. Another crazy hapa that also happens to have threads on /cow/ is the self-admitted pedophile /eerie/fag, there's also Codemonkey. It's almost as if there was a pattern…

>it's shit.

>>13673944

>It's almost as if there was a pattern…

Almost like you desperately want there to be a pattern.

>>13674003

Just check reddit's r/hapas and see for yourself

>>13671434

He has a point sorta. The dialog in many of the 3D games are so blatant and terrible they do go back into being entertaining. Do you seriously not remember Shadows most famous line?

>>13674141

Kind of makes her seem more naked, Like Zoras have a concept of modesty, but just choose to expose their genitals.

>>13667063

So, who datamined the demo?

>>13669877

You'd be correct. In this day and age ,a demo is often suicide because of how shit games are.

But this? I'm amused.

>>13667063

Does this game have killing trannies?

>>13673188

Asian women are just fishes with a load of make-up or plastic surgery or both.

>>13670055

Why do people keep posting this. It's fucking shit. Sonic is fucking tiny compared to the level and it'll never go beyond this just like every other sonic fangame

>>13675419

>sonic lost world

>sonic boom

God damn Sega doing the same shit over and over again! There is no pleasing sonic autism. Sega is meteorically suffering from battered wife syndrome. They do something experimental and fans cry "stick to what works", if they stick to what works fans cry "do something experimental!". The only think I find supper funny is how many autist actually had somehow built up the expectation that Sonic Forces was going to be another Adventure game. I wish they just made Lost Words 2 or Generations 2. Forces is actually way to lazy and autistic for anyone with taste to care about and its not the boost system that is the problem, its the bad level design and stupid weapon/whisp gimmicks.

>>13678053

>every other sonic fangame

but sonic mania anon.

>>13678080

Boost gameplay is perfect for Sonic, but so is Adventure gameplay and in a vacuum, the original 2D gameplay.

>Sonic Mania

One out of a million fangames was decent and actually finished.

>>13673004

>Frozen timer had 2 seconds left

>There's almost half of a level after that in the demo

But why though? Did they felt releasing the entire first level would be too much? This seems like a decition taken in a board meeting with a bunch of marketers who know little to nothing about videogames.

>>13667063

Why haven't they tried making forward scrolling sections control like a racing game?

It seems so obvious.

>>13678080

>Sonic lost world

>Sonic boom

I consider those both to be spin offs in the same sense as Secret rings and Black knight.

They were Wii U exclusives, with Lost world only coming to PC much later.

>They do something experimental and fans cry "stick to what works", if they stick to what works fans cry "do something experimental!"

You sound as if you think all Sonic fans agree on what they think they want. when really since sonic has such A huge fan base and has been around for so long since there is basically a separate fanbase for each ear of Sonic (classic, Adventure, and modern and that's just the games their is also fanbases for the comics and cartoons.) with likely not that many enjoying all the era's equally, when you look at all of them I doubt that fans will agree on what they think the future of Sonic should be.

I can only speak for myself, and as far as 3D Sonic goes I liked it more when there were multiple playable characters and I like the Spin Dash more then the Boost.

>I find supper funny is how many autist actually had somehow built up the expectation that Sonic Forces was going to be another Adventure game.

I think the idea is that it's like Adventure in terms of the story, I don't think anyone was expecting the gameplay to go back to the Adventure style.

>>13673429

>(((entitled))) gamers

This post is about as (((corporate))) as you can get.

The most agreed upon birth dates for millenials is 85-00, making them 32-17. If you're outside that range, it's just embarassing to be on an imageboard.

>>13677907

>NL is not asian

He is a hapa, just read his /cow/ page.

>>13670055

Fuck gravity, i gotta go fast!

>>13678285

Good idea, bad implementation (lack of interesting levels for example)?

I get why they have it over the spin-dash (spin dash takes time to build up), but it did have some stuff over the boost (as a ball you use momentum better, and you eventually slow down).

I do think the Boost needs some tweaks along with better levels (Meter starts empty and it takes more to fill it for example)

>>13673004

>Amy is completely serious now

Was this written by a western writer?

>>13678413

I agree, I would much prefer another SA2, but for what it is I think Unleashed and Generations are good also. The scoring system in Generations is truthfully much less complex but personally I only seek to improve my times, the rank itself doesn't matter to me unless the bar for an S is set high enough(which it isn't in the base game, but the Unleashed mod is an example of it.)

>>13678454

Yes, the Happy Tree Friends creators.

>>13678454

What do you mean? Amy's historically been young, naive, and obnoxious, but never particularly jokey. Though she does seem more objective-oriented, like her Sonic Boom iteration. In the context of a game, I'm not sure if I like her more or less as being an actual character, instead of a joke and sometimes plot device to attach to Sonic. I think the best use of her has been as someone to play jokes off of in the Sonic Boom show, but it's not really the same character as in CD/SA/SA2.

>>13673004

>Music at 1:48

Calling it now, there will be a mashup with this song and Hopes and Dreams/SAVE the World.

>>13678475

>>13678454

>Happy tree friends writer

He wrote for Sonic colors to Lost World, I could be wrong but I think he's only translating/localizing this time.

>>13678460

Just to be clear I don't hate Boost Sonic, I just think there was far more potential for gameplay with how things were before it just needed more refinement. I really enjoyed how each game added and shaked up the core gameplay to where they all felt familiar with the basic movement and homing attack, but they all had something unique that made each game worth trying like Heroes had the teams to shake things up but the Speed character still played like Sonic save for how the spin dash is all f'd with in that game.

Unleashed to Generations boost Gameplay all feel to similar, so it's getting a bit tiresome, I actually really am interested in playing as the avatar since it's something new again.

>>13670193

I definitely prefer this, the whole stickiness of 3D Sonic games is what really shits it up for me, kills the whole point of fast going.

Some Switch owners are now getting the full game as early as now. Any chance somebody can stream it?

>>13678870

Surely Mark will be our light. And Game Over 12 times more. But really, it'd be cool if he did that.

>>13678870

sauce of people getting it early?

>>13679419

Is it such a big deal to get 12 game overs? I got 5 on Flying Battery Zone.

>>13679549

12 in a row on the same level is pretty bad. He was tired and rushing, but he also just wasn't being careful. Sage for off topic.

>"Deep in the mystic jungle lurks one of Eggman's many bases. Shadow is en route to raid and destroy it. And Eggman's army is in full force to greet him and take him down, by any means necessary."

Exactly what the fuck is Shadow's role in this game anymore.

>>13680011

he's on sonics side but he's being tsundere bout it

>>13680011

Didn't Shadow die in SA2?

>>13680047

no he just hit his head real hard when he landed on earth and got amnesia, he's pretty much invincible i think.

eggman says he's the original in the final boss of shadow the hedgehog

>>13680011

>remix of White Jungle

>"d-definitely not Generations 2, guys."

>>13680047

Where have you been the last decade?

>>13680047

He was saved by the safety net of his popularity with furries and teenage edgelords.

>>13680011

Shadow has consistently been an anti-hero since the last act of SA2, alternate paths of Shadow The Hedgehog notwithstanding. Given that he has his memories of Maria again, it's unlikely that he'll ever do anything but try to protect the planet, which was her final wish, and his intended purpose. He'll just be an edgy faggot about it. To make Shadow a villain again, you'd have to give him a reason to defy the rest of the group because he thinks that something else has a better chance of protecting the planet per Maria's wish.

>>13680053

>no he just hit his head real hard when he landed on earth and got amnesia, he's pretty much invincible i think.

He never made impact, or even went through reentry. See vid related.

>>13680060

Soundtrack will be nice to listen to anyway.

But even when comparing the remixes used in other games (Metal Sonic in Mania vs this) the other ones sound better.

>>13680157

>Not Green Forest

It's a Shadow level, it wouldn't make sense if it was Green Forest.

>>13680216

>He's only be

Fuck me, I need to go to bed.

>>13680157

>how

The spider boss is really hard

>>13680317

talking about a franchise that removed series known obstacle courses to unlock a "Super" form to play as during the game. Now we only see that form at minimal moments in games past Sonic 3. I'd rather them figure out how to use Super Sonic early before I worry about Chaos Control abilities.

>>13680317

As far as I can tell, there's no reason that Shadow shouldn't be able to use all of the abilities he's had in the past, especially Chaos Control. He's just hasn't been in a situation to use them again since then. Honestly, I'd like to see his powers from Sonic Battle make a comeback, but I doubt they will. Everyone's abilities in that game seem to exist to enable the game, not because they have a particular rationale in the series. There's no reason Knuckles should be able to summon meteors, for example.

>>13680411

The level of fast attainable with the boost system of gameplay is already pushing the limits of what most people can handle. How do you implement Super Sonic in regular levels without completely altering how those levels play?

>>13680349

Didn't die once to it, and that was with a lack of sleep before playing it.

>>13680317

It was sort of cool with how they made Shadow interact with Metal Sonic in Rivals 2 and was able to use it to return to their dimension through Chaos Control, but no one really cares about the Rival series.

>>13680011

It's rather telling that one of the best songs to come from this game is a remix of an old song from a game released in the early 2000s.

>>13680627

>Sonic High School

I'm still laughing.

>>13681270

I recently downloaded all of the Wii Sonic games so I'm planning on trying this one out. I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about it; most love the day stages and hate the night stages, but some just outright don't like everything, and then a select few enjoy the night stages. I never played any of the Wii Sonic games and I feel like I'm missing out since I never played Colors.

>>13681270

>He played the PS3 version

It has lots of framerate problems, it makes lots of the later levels frustrating to play.

>>13681387

How does that change the godawful gameplay?

>>13681401

Unleashed never really looked terrible. I mean if you don't like it, that's cool, but I didn't think it looked too bad.

>>13681405

I'm not talking about the graphics.

>>13681409

Oh, me neither. I was talking about gameplay as well. Looked like a fine game.

>>13681401

it changes what it changes, if one doesn't want to experience the framedrops, play the 360 version.

>>13681424

I don't want to experience Sonic Unleashed in any shape, way or form ever again.

Just found 1 hour footage of Sonic Forces His Big Hedgehog Cock Down Your Throat. I ain't webm-ing this shit nigger.

Shadow working for Infinite confirmed faker.

>>13682925

I FOUND YOU FAKER

>>13682925

Something feels jarring with this. It's probably the voice acting, animation or both.

IT'S BEEN GENERATIONS SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU!

>>13682925

The memes…

>>13682946

>Muhahahaha!! Guess what, Sonic Heroes… I've finally developed the ultimate weapon! In three days, I'll conquer the world. Think you can stop me? Ahahahaha!!

It's like pottery.

PHANTOM RUBY JUST PUTS SHIT INTO YOUR MIND

>>13682985

I wasn't the only that was reminded about Sonic Heroes when the streamed leaks dropped.

>>13682990

That much I coild surmise from Mania and the lyric in Infinite's thrme song. "This is an illusion" But what's up with the "prototype" Phantom Rubies?

>>13681216

>Sonic Forces is literally a fanfiction game/love letter to the fans and I'm fucking loving every bit of it.

So… it's deliberate shitposting like Mania, but autistic in a different way? Have to admit I never thought of it like that.

still not going to buy it

>>13677907

A fun story in video games is justification enough. As long as you can skip it there's no problem.

Yeah the game leaked. Sonic mania 2.0

>>13682945

It's SFM tier

>>13684960

Did the 2d sonic levels ever get better than what was initially shown, the boss fight in the previous video didn't look to bad. Also, are the 3D levels as linear and "hold button to win" as they look?

>>13684966

Some levels are showing potential, unfortunately they are doing nothing with that potential, so it remains a "Gotcha!" sort of thing.

Also, Infinite is a weak piece of shit, in terms of gameplay.

It would be the shitties thing if they took the SMB2 route and say Sonic Mania was a dream.

>>13680011

Damn I've always wished they would turn shadows SA2 music intro proper jungle tunes. Seems like they practically did the opposite.

I'm really not feeling this soundtrack

>>13685018

I'll take that considering I'm mostly in it for the novelty at this point.

>>13682945

>The lighting is fucked (how come unleashed looks twice as good as this)

>The animation has no character too it. The cartoonines isn't there (basically the problem with the entire game)

>acting and animation don't match up

>sound levels are terrible

shit

>>13682925

Edg, Edge and Edgy

>it's been leak

where's the download?

>>13685025

Well that's kinda shit. Especially when you consider what it does in Mania.

Not only is it saying all of Infinite's shit is basically just illusions that have real consequences, but all the stuff with Egg Robos and what they do never happened. You're just fighting a normal egg robo who makes you see all that shit. Albeit it's making everything see it like that- even Eggman- but it still feels cheap

What would be wrong with keeping with what was already established and give it time/space/reality powers better than the Chaos Emeralds?

>>13685050

>And the voice acting is jarring because Roger Craig Smith. "nuff said.

I thought he was one of the better VAs.

>>13685572

One of the cutscenes says Tails "lost it" after Sonic was captured. Seems like he got separated or left the rebellion, and became a coward without Sonic (in either order). He had the whole "I've got to live up to Sonic's standard" shit in Adventure, and I'm not expecting consistency, but if they're gonna be edgy, at least show what made him like this.

Hope you like fighting the Nega Wisp robot again.

>>13670055

Is that 3D Platform Masters?

nostalgic*

>>13686323

This autist does a decent Sonic.

>>13686357

I wouldn't go that far. No one has nostalgia for Sonic 06 yet.

>>13686421

Just check the comments for some 06 videos and you will see people who were kids when it came out saying how they have fond memories of it.

>>13686421

>No one has nostalgia for Sonic 06

thats not true just look at the comment section on any 06 play through and there are endless people working to "fix" it.

>>13686441

I was just saying that

>>13686490

>Does Sonic Team even give a shit anymore?

Did they ever?

>>13686490

>Does Sonic Team even give a shit anymore?

>picture of sanic adventure

they stopped giving a shit after Sonic 3.

>>13686307

I'm guessing it was cut for time or in the Shadow DLC. The game feels rushed as well- like the robots in cutscenes all have a visor and a chrome finish- while it looks like that design is only for the ones in the last level.

If they had development trouble, they could have pushed it back at least a few months for a Christmas launch. Sure they'd be competing with Odyssey, but the style of both games (or what they promised) is vastly different.

>>13686323

When I was younger I liked the voice acting in Adventure, and didn't like how they toned him down with each appearance after that. Now I'm older, I prefer it (play the VAs in reverse order up to Urkle, and each sounds like a parody of the last). I will admit the lines and direction in Forces sounds awful. Nothing is interesting or exciting- Roger is just encouraging the player all the time. Christ, his VA work in Sonic Boom has more emotional range and is fun. Same applies to Eggman to.The fact the script is so dry doesn't help either. No one has any personality.

For example (love it or hate it) Knuckles is characterized as an idiot. In Forces (you get all the cutscenes after the boss) does he show he's an idiot- or any other personality traits?

Fucking hell, the writing in porn flash games of the characters has more personality than this.

>>13686792

>overpowered

>combat is pointless.

plus enemies just stand there and do nothing

>from a narrative point

caring about story in video games is always a mistake.

Hey it's that reskinned last boss from sonic colors

>>13686953

> caring about story in video games is always a mistake.

Oh lord yeah. Even in an RPG- if the game is good enough no plot- or even a bad plot (at times)- can be ignored.

It's magnifies good gameplay like graphics, music, sfx, etc.

Without good gameplay- all the bells and whistles will do is help it sell more in the initial phases before it's forgotten.

And for all the hype behind the game- it's a plain wafer.

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>>13687113

Gave me more enjoyment that forces did.

Super Cloudbuilt is best boost sonic game

>>13687222

Nice trips, have one made specially for you!

>>13667063

Even Sonic autists don't like this game. Also, since the whole game is now leaked, it seems the consensus among Sonic fans is that it's worse than Generations. Jesus Christ, Sonic Team.

>>13686797

>>13686792

and its still gonna make money cause of the character creator

>>13687354

and then of course whatever sonic game comes after it is gonna sell much worse unless they include a character creator with even more features in every sonic game afterwards

but wait, theyll probably put DLC in sonic forces for the character creator to milk aaaaaaaaaaall of those deviant art whales

>>13687336

I still see huge fucking fanboys licking Sonic dick in the Jewtube comments though. I am glad Forces is getting the criticisms it deserves though.

>>13687336

The leak is going to hurt sales bad. I half wonder if Denuvo had a hand in it.

> See- when people realize your game is shit, you lose money! You need us to stop people playing your game if it leaks early!

>>13687374

The real fans are making fun of them and calling them the "Sonic Forces defense squad". Most of the fans on forums don't like the look of the game and with spoilers out, the only ones liking the game are retards. If you can't even get autists to like your game, then there's something wrong. All Sonic Team had to do was go full edge and not rehash so much, I guarantee Sonic Adventure fans would be all over it.

>>13667184

every 3d sonic from adventure looks really slow tbh

>>13687428

Too much to hope this splits the fan-base from tards and everyone else?

How do you split from over half your group?

>>13687711

>>13687668

Is classic sonic still unable to hold down to roll down slopes like in generations? That shit is the one thing they need to get right

>>13687727

Association with games people like

TRUE FINAL BOSS

>>13688937

this would be better than what we currently have tbh

>>13669892

Supermonkeyball always reminded me of Billy hatcher, both the music and the gameplay.

>>13687336

>Even Sonic autists don't like this game.

That is in no way surprisng. Nobody hates Sonic more than Sonic's fans.

Sonic Forces Defense Force in the comments

>>13687100

>>13687113

>>13687173

>>13687254

>>13687312

>>13687340

>>13687383

>>13687443

>>13687576

These are fucking fantastic.

>>13688937

>>13689029

All jokes aside, I found the bosses in this game better than I had anticipated. Sure, they aren't that as long or as difficult as they could be, but the same could be said about most Sonic bosses, really, especially Colors.

>>13686846

I noticed the personality thing in the gameplay vids. Everybody talks like fucking COD characters

>>13694927

Nintendo is doing the same shit, including non-nintendo owned first party companies. I.E; Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Mario (non-mainline), Metroid. Of course, at least these are 'okay', which is a bit better than mediocre.

The only ones that haven't gotten fucked as hard have been Kirby, Donkey Kong and Zelda, yet Zelda is already showing signs of decay.

>>13671125

If i pull that would you die ?

>>13689371

I think it mostly spawns from all the complaing about green eyes Sonic being the Sonic they picked for Sonic 4. And sure, that was disappointing but it wasn't even close to being that game's biggest problem. Infact Sonic Advance 1 is probably a better classic Sonic game than classic Sonic in Generations.

>>13695328

Retard writers.

What if you asked is only scraping the iceberg.

>>13694927

Well that puts things into perspective, but

>cuckchan screenshot

Every single piece of gameplay footage and information about Sonic Forces has suggested it is going to be a horrible game. The fact that anybody is excited for it demonstrates why cults are successful.

>>13695656

The Lost World director is on this so of course he gets the priority.

>>13694927

>Takayuki Okada

this guy also seems to be the one person consistently involved with all the other games but is absent form Forces.

>>13686323

Don't forget the faggot is a retarded femishit.

>>13686214

Was anyone even expecting a Sonic game to be good?

>Lost World came out in 2013

>Sonic Team had four years to make this game

>It's just more boost2win shit

>But even worse somehow

Amazing.

>>13696525

>4 years

>implying they didn't scrap half the game because Sonic Boom didn't pan out (they were going to have Boom Sonic be the 3rd character)

There are actually some lines in the game that make no sense and the story seems rushed towards the end. Also some story DLC is planned, so perhaps some of the story is sealed behind paid DLC as well.

>>13695647

Most people aren't excited for it. The Sonic Stadium forums are up in flames right now over how bad the game is, hardly anyone is defending the game and it's not even out yet for most.

Is the game out already?

>>13696585

No just people getting the game early and leaking the game, I think.

>>13696584

See reddit and youtube comments. The defense force were massive.

>>13684960

Console game gets leaked and SEGA will punish PC for this. Retard logic.

Not that it will matter since the Denuvo will get cracked day 1.

>>13696944

For some reason it's much too difficult for them to think of any other kind of attacks for the Final Boss, yet Egg Dragoon in Generations was better than this shit and he he wasn't the final boss.

Also, don't forget the Egg Beetle in Unleashed PS360, it did the same shit.

>>13695328

N-N-N-NO, NOT SHADOW FEVER!

>>13695624

They're probably saving it for the (((DLC))).

>>13696944

Their thought process is like

<We got to come up with a final boss fight. Any ideas?

>Okay hear me out, Sonic is all about going fast, right? So lets make the final boss fight involve him running after them.

<Okay, liking it so far. Who is he fighting?

>Eggman, of course! We can't have *insert new antagonist sidekick here* be the final boss, we've done that too many times already.

<Mmkay.

>And Eggman's in a robot with two arms that shoots lasers.

<Fucking genius!

Wait, didn't we do that the last two times?

<No, see, but this time you have to homing attack the arms to open it up for a QTE attack.

That's literally exactly what we did last time. Why don't we make the final boss fight centered around using all of the skills the player built up over the course of the game?

>That sounds too hard! We're not making fucking Dark Souls here, we're making a SONIC game!

But–

<Get out.

Sonic is dead

>>13702854

I unironically liked the OC creator but shame about the level design. Also no Chaos, really?