fda962 No.13636605
Which games have held up to the test of time? What games do feel will always be enjoyable to play despite the graphics becoming dated or even the presence of annoying bugs?
I think its hard to eliminate nostalgia from my thought process, because Medieval 2 does hold a nostalgic place in my heart. But I do think someone entirely new to even the franchise itself could really get into this game.
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b9d54f No.13636697
>>13636654
>JA2
Great game. Sadly last time I played it on a genuine win 98 machine it kept crashing to desktop every 30 min or so. But that was a long time ago, maybe there's a community patch that made it more stable.
5b3b9a No.13636743
>>13636605
Medieval 2 is amazing.
>graphics still hold up today
>thousands of units on the field
>units actually have collision unlike every game since Empire
>huge map, content changes throughout the game with each century, fucking post-game colonialism content
>missions and objectives based on your council or the pope which sometimes conflict
>every army is unique because of the difference in buildings in certain areas
>6 gorillion overhaul mods
Still one the best strategy games of all time and hasn't been topped by any other Total War since.
f2c9a4 No.13636744
>>13636697
The GOG installer works on modern machines.
I also have the 1.13 version installed, and haven't had any crashes so far.
d8cb12 No.13636833
Even when I was a kid, I could tell that every corner of Ra had a level of care and detail that was hard to find anywhere else.
Baldurs Gate was different, I didn't play it until recently, but it was pretty obvious why people have been trying to imitate it forever. Lacking a lot of modern comforts even with mods, it basically has everything an RPG should.
f5ec1d No.13636852
>>13636743
>graphics still hold up today
The graphical leap between Rome 1 and medieval 2 is pretty big. Medieval 2 started getting in small details like more individual looking soldiers, dirty torn up banners, rustic buildings, and junk laying around on farms
Pic related is from my shitty rig from nearly 10 years ago with AA off
b9d54f No.13636888
>>13636744
Good to know, if I ever pick it up again I'll look into it. Danke.
>>13636605
>Which games have held up to the test of time? What games do feel will always be enjoyable to play despite the graphics becoming dated or even the presence of annoying bugs?
Genesis era classics. Capcom CPS1-2 games. Fallout1&2. Some SNES titles, Link to the Past I'd consider one of the better zelda series.
7dc6c8 No.13636905
>>13636847
Honestly I played FEAR when it was new and thought it was amazing, then never revisited it until last year and thought it was extremely dated. There are other FPS from that era that are still fun but FEAR is repetitive as fuck, it reminds me of a light gun arcade game like area 51, but you move your player. You just move from one set to another and know you are going to have a battle with enemies that act predictably.
3c2d57 No.13636978
>>13636853
>galaxies pic
Is that person in the foreground doing the autistic screeching pose?
c7349f No.13636998
>Released in 2011
>People still buy it for 40 bucks 6 years later
ebe598 No.13637028
>>13636978
That pic is from a long long time ago…
e4901a No.13637054
The space donut never gets stale.
e4901a No.13637064
Addendum: I am more a fan of RTW, war dogs are the best goddamn thing ever.
e4901a No.13637077
Not vidya but I installed Amapi 6.1 on Win 7 yesterday and the shit just werks.
d5e013 No.13637110
>back when games had decent manuals
>back before shitty DRM
>back when Maxis wasn't shit/dead
>back when EA weren't total shiteaters
>excellent sound track that I still listen to today while working
>graphics have held up well even though its not a true 3D engine
>excellent mod support 13 years later
Cities Skylines is talked about as a possible replacement, but it still doesn't match SC4s depth, especially with mods like NAM and CAM.
Why can't EA just release the source already? They still can't be making money of this game.
fce3e6 No.13637124
>>13636605
I like Third Age Total War but I'm not too fond of vanilla Medieval II, oddly. It's a shame the turn and load times in the mods tends to take forever.
9cbcb3 No.13637303
>>13636654
Is there any reason to play Jagged Alliance 1 before playing Jagged Alliance 2 if I've never played either game?
ef72bf No.13639196
>>13637110
>brings-employees-to-suicide-EA
>ever letting you have the source for any reason that they don't profit greatly from
you already know why
>>13637303
i'd also like to know this
you might want to mod ja2 since the entire first part of it consists of enemies wielding pistols who can't do shit versus your smgs and long arms
9d406e No.13639220
>>13636905
I never liked FEAR much. I thought combat was fun, but the game constantly interrupts you with shitty J-horror inspired cinematic sections. Pretty much unplayable, in my opinion. Couldn't finish it.
894a71 No.13639663
There's many games I'd consider timeless but off the top of my head, Warcraft 3 is probably a perfect example. Nothing about the game ever gets old for me really. Battle.net is still active, people are still making maps and the music is ridiculously good.
cf1eca No.13650734
>>13636605
Nostalgia surely plays a huge role for me with these, but they are pretty damn fantastic RPGs
6f5106 No.13650853
>ctrl+f "Doom"
>ctrl+f "Dude Sex"
>ctrl+f "The Punisher"
>ctrl+f "Spongebob"
>0 results
It's like you fags are forgetting the quintessential oldfag games, and Licensed games smh.
>>13637110
Oh man i always fucking remember that game, i mean having a full control of a car in your city that you've built was just mind-blowing to ye olde me, and the tanks / jets that can get will never top anything else.
>>13636847
>F.E.A.R
Anon that game was just released a few years ago, its not really old
OH wait,
<2005 was 12 years ago
28c9f8 No.13650879
6f5106 No.13650994
>>13650879
>he doesn't like good games
28c9f8 No.13651014
>>13650994
I do like them, it's just everybody's fucking played them. maybe get some new material or try something new for once.
6f5106 No.13651091
>>13651014
>implying everyone on /v/ has played these
Oh sure, those games that i posted might have been the 'essentials' for /v/ but always remember that there is so much a man can play i.e me who haven't played any of Troika's games. But still i see you point, people have already heard of those games to the point of repetition and i should be posting the lesser known ones.
Too bad you have to be a faggot to make your point, now go post some more 'obscure' games you picky cocksucker
6f5106 No.13659972
9ce93d No.13660261
Probably not THE best, but any time I pop these bastards in I have loads of fun like I'd be playing them the first day all over again.
2684c4 No.13660452
>>13651091
Midway was good, but I preferred Pacific myself.
778c35 No.13661614
Diablo 2, as shit as the graphics are now they've been relatively shit for a long time and it's held up through all of that.
I'd argue the game is better now than ever before thanks to skeletons getting reworked (fewer of them but they're actually useful and it's still a lot of them) and respecs being added.
44fcb9 No.13661623
>>13636605
The list goes as follows:
a5f3a3 No.13663096
Games do not "age". All you are saying when you say that a game has "aged poorly" is that you were too ignorant or too tasteless to recognize a poor game when it was released.
eedba0 No.13663576
I feel like MGS2 aged amazingly well for an early PS2 title. Mostly due to very smart design decisions to get around the polygon and texture limitations.
031c55 No.13663664
>>13663096
Games "age" because standards change.
Especially with the introduction of 3D, developers had to experiment a lot before figuring things out. As an obvious example, the early Tomb Raider games were fantastic at the time, and they're still good, but it's undeniable that the tank controls feel clumsy and outdated now.
Also, low framerates and simple graphics that we accepted because having any 3D on a lowly 16-bit console was jaw-dropping, but now we are pickier. And we should be even more, there is no excuse for anything less than a solid sixty.
97d3fb No.13663838
>>13650853
>I'll post the shit that gets posted every thread
>fagbob redditpants
68fd1c No.13664050
I just bought Medieval 2 on Steam it's really good.
ef3069 No.13664193
>>13650853
That spongebob game was surprisingly pretty good, they even had an alright Mario Party clone as well.
647db8 No.13668983
>>13660452
Same here but by 2009 the game felt outdated for me tbh
>>13663838
>hurr durr reddit
You're totally fitting here bud
Also i'm gonna spice things up a little here
What mods do you consider to be timeless ones anons? Bear in mind that i'm excluding mods that have been ascended into full-fledged games here
I'll start with these M&B classics
c80595 No.13669020
>>13664193
>Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds got posted before Age of Empires II
What the fuck niggers?
168585 No.13669045
I will always be forever salty about Civ 5 and 6. Civ 5 was made by toddlers, Civ 6 was made by sjws and is a fucking childrens game. Not to mention the US civilopedia page comes off as anti American to me.
9ce93d No.13669067
>>13669045
Have you tried Rhye's and Fall?
e15445 No.13669215
>>13669045
Ah, CIV 4, I don't know how much time I've puit into the game since it released. It's one of the only games I keep going back to. I've pretty much lost all hope for a good Civ after 6. I just want civ 4 with more features and better graphics, is that so much to ask? Nooo, we got to have """""innovative"""" new concepts like 1upt that shit all over the entire concept of civ games.
168585 No.13669273
>>13669067
All my years of playing, I actually haven't which is funny. I recently started playing Civ 4 again and I should try it.
>>13669215
Amen. I sort of like the stacks, gives the perception you're in command of a giant army instead of 5 where you have a dozen or so units. I gave up hoping for a good Civ game after 5. I consider Civ 4 is a masterpiece, everything blends so well together
>The music for each era
>The small details such if you zoom in all the way on trees you hear a forest, if you zoom in on water, you hear waves
>Diplomacy that makes sense
>Happiness and health that makes sense
>Leaders that aren't schizophrenic
>The UI is amazing even without the bug mod, Civ 5's atrocious even with mods
Fuck I could go on.
7535d9 No.13669421
>World in Conflict
-Top tier models and particles effects plus FX
-Top tier netcode
-Top tier RTT gameplay
-Top tier redpilled singleplayer campaign
>Crysis
-Open Ended gameplay and map thats barely done today
-Top tier visuals and animations that still hold up to this day
-Top tier gameplay full of content and choices to make
-Aliens vs Commie Gooks with Giant enemies
>Super Metroid
-Top tier gameplay design that stil being ripped off even today
-Top tier level design still being ripped off even today
-Top tier suffocating alien atmosphere
-Tight as fuck controls
>Chrono Trigger
-Shitton of content
-Shitton of different designs
-Shittons of choices for an RPG which even makes you lose party members
-Time travelling insane as shit plot that wraps up decently
-Shitton of endings
-Almost made me cry
-Comfy as fuck
>UT 2K4
-Shitton of content
-Top tier gameplay and map design
-Super moddable
-Community is was autistic as shit and created a shitton of TCs that are now games, even more than Volvo
-Still mods being made for it
-Top tier netcode
Honorable mentions
-S.T.A.L.K.E.R SoC for its atmosphere, RPG elements and A Life
-Supreme Commander for its scale, top tier designs and visuals and gameplay
-Shadow of the Colossus for its top tier visuals and atmosphere with Boss enemies that function as a puzzle plus top tier animations that still hold up today shame it runs like shit
0447d9 No.13671573
>>13636605
Medieval II's UI and campaign management have not held up well
3c4395 No.13671579
c0000f No.13671613
>>13671573
Better than the trash CA now makes
9ce93d No.13684886
5ce965 No.13684908
>>13671613
Very arguable to be frank.
cf8c16 No.13684952
quintessential oldfag games coming through
74ad6a No.13685045
>>13636847
>F.E.A.R.
My fucking nigger.
>>13684952
>mfw missed SWAT4 gamenite
2bc222 No.13685814
Pic related is 20 years old and is more popular now than it's ever been.
It's comfy af and the random map generation ensures every single game is unique from the last. It's easy to learn but difficult to master. A true classic.
>tfw i still have the game and the thicc guide that came with it
95e5ef No.13685946
>>13636605
Mount and Blade Warfare and its mods. Gekokujo, Fantasy in Calradia, etc.. especially. But I've found it a little unstable.
bc36ef No.13685952
I think the agreed-upon death date is when the Uber update came around, but the zombie is still fun to play. For a multiplayer game, it has lasted a very long time and still has a consistent player base. I'd say that it's second only to Starcraft and Warcraft.
3d246a No.13685971
>>13685907
You can tell Master of Magic is great because literally every game that has tried to capture its "magic" (heh) has failed in one way or another. There's nothing else like it, and not for lack of people trying.
ef3069 No.13686565
>>13685814
>Not the first game with it's comfy midi
disgusting
684dd3 No.13687001
>>13684952
Swat 3 was better but it seems nobody played it.
06f2e7 No.13687375
>>13636743
Agreed. Still the best over all Total War game in my opinion.
dfba84 No.13687429
>>13687375
>>13636743
Medieval Total War 2 is the only TW game I ever played.
Been playing it through months now, there is just so much content and the campaigns take so long. After I finished it there was a ton of cool mods.
How bad exactly is Empire compared to Medieval 2? I want to get into the newer entries of the franchise but everyone talk like the quality only went downhill.
06f2e7 No.13687448
>>13687429
Honestly, the other Total Wars aren't that bad generally, it's just Medieval is a stand out title. I think most people agree the Shogun is also solid.
5b80a8 No.13687454
>>13636743
>played for the first time in a long time the other day
>installed Stainless Steel
>picked Byzantines
>roasting hundreds of kebab alive at once with flamethrowers
Holy shit
dfba84 No.13687504
06f2e7 No.13687564
>>13687504
Couldn't say honestly. Only played Shogun 2 and Medieval 2.
9b9136 No.13687578
Surprised no one has posted this yet
>>13687504
Very buggy. the Ai doesnt work well with projectiles. Napoleon is more of an expansion of empire than its own game and plays alot better. the ai is still retarded though.
>>13669020
Because its better in every way.
4846f4 No.13687616
>>13687578
>Very buggy. the Ai doesnt work well with projectiles.
That sucks. I like the time period it is set in.
9b9136 No.13687628
>>13687616
multiplayer is ok if you can find anyone. but you can just steamroll the ai as they usually just stand there and take canon fire.
4846f4 No.13687650
>>13687628
I don't care about multiplayer.
Should I just get Napoleon then?
9b9136 No.13687686
>>13687650
while napoleon has better mechanics, empire has more playable factions and units. empire also has alot more mods. personally i prefer napoleon but thy both suffer from the same problems, either is fine just to scratch that world conquest itch.
4846f4 No.13687829
>>13687686
Is there something like a Stainless Steel mod for Empire?
c0000f No.13687954
>>13687829
No, Empire isn't that moddable
cf8c16 No.13691528
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>>13687001
Swat 3 had the most kickass genre-specific theme, Its stuck with me all these years.
2c1876 No.13691725
>>13687429
There is no more strategy on the battlefield from Empire on out. The AI just charges right at you and numbers become the only thing that really matters. Family trees are also gone starting with Empire. Then, after Empire comes ever-increasing DLC kikery. So, even if you are willing to stomach the cut features and crappy battle engine, you're still paying 8 dollars each to get access to all the factions. Total War series died with the release of Empire.
e64abd No.13696648
>>13687429
You'll want to play Rome 1 and Shogun 2, and try Medieval and Shogun 1 while you're at it just to see how far the series has progressed (and then decayed). Everything else is mediocre compared to those titles. Empire isn't completely awful, but it really could've been so much more that just talking about the game makes me sad.
5b3b9a No.13696703
>>13687001
>>13684952
>>13691528
It's still amazing how the SWAT games were actually designed by the guy who co-founded swat
9ce93d No.13697771
>>13685952
Hopefully, Vintage will bring in some life to the game, even if it's just for 20ish players.
Lemme add some to the pile.
cf8c16 No.13697776
>>13696703
no way, that's pretty impressive. What's his name? It'd be interesting to see if he's contributed to other media.
a33ea1 No.13697786
>>13647783
Max Payne had aged by the time 2 came out, graphically i mean, of course those games still rape every TPS out there.
df58b6 No.13697818
>>13639247
This tbh, this game never gets old.
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6ee95e No.13705140
I'll just leave this here.
Also, don't be a fool, Marshall.
21b9df No.13705545
>>13650853
A shame Punisher is impossible to run on Win 7.
be70dd No.13705568
>>13639196
>>13637303
>Is there any reason to play Jagged Alliance 1 before playing Jagged Alliance 2
no. there's not much of a cinematic experience
just be sure to get what this guy did >>13636744
577986 No.13705622
Thanks to /v/ I found these awesome games a long time ago.
a5f3a3 No.13708372
Oh you mean "good games" OP? Games are not fine steel subject to rusting or milk subject to souring. Bit rot doesn't magically make sound game design turn unsound over time.
a02c24 No.13708409
>>13669020
>not GOD OF RTS
9743a7 No.13711188
SNES classics in general are timeless.
b9d05f No.13711246
>>13705622
Try the other two games by Apeiron too.
b64c89 No.13711288
The only two games i never deinstall.
e1dc9a No.13711294
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>>13636605
Legend of Mana. - Everything but the special effects were painted with watercolor. Gameplay and music are great. Combining abilities isn't really optional because it's the only way to get better techs, but it's well worth it. I've never encountered a bug in the game except when my disc was scratched.
e64abd No.13713392
>>13687454
Kebab removal is a calling only for true men like you and me, anon.
I've taken over about half of the turkish territory. Unfortunately Hungary decided to try and take some of my northern provinces. I'm trying to make a temporary ceasefire with kebab so I can move some forces to defend the new war front. They were willing to give me a ton of money for the peace since I so thoroughly kicked their asses. But then I got greedy and decided to take one last settlement before asking for peace and now they're having none of it. Guess I get to remove kebab for good while I try and stop the hungarians from taking my rightful clay.
>>13708409
I have fond childhood memories of TA but SupCom is superior in almost every way. The one saving grace of TA in this day and age is that it runs on potatoes so it's easy to get a large group of people for a LAN party.
3804ea No.13713683
>>13697771
>Spy vs Spy
Mah nigga. That game was underrated as fuck. The trap mechanic, the strategy of it, fun shit.