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4bfba7 No.13550889
OU VEY YOURE STEALING JUST BUY THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY YOU PIECE OF SHIT IN YOUR MOM BBASE MENT ANIME JACKOFF REEEEEEEEESESEEDDEEEEEE
2aff05 No.13550892
>>13550885
is this decrypted?
3f1c0f No.13550894
>>13550892
That's no script interacting with mega.
2aff05 No.13550900
>>13550894
I meant decrypted as in "able to run on the 3ds emulator" decrypted
3f1c0f No.13550914
>>13550900
Well it's a .cia, not a .3DS
a520a3 No.13550926
>>13550889
I did want to buy it, but not after they revealed that they didn't learn from EOUntold 2 and gave it launch DLC. If they hadn't done that I would be buying it.
2aff05 No.13550935
well if someone could decrypt it I could probably run it on an emulator. I just want to see how well it runs
4bfba7 No.13550947
>>13550926
Never buy games, lad. No matter how good.
a520a3 No.13550973
>>13550947
I will buy good games from good people. For obvious reasons that means I buy very few games now.
c555fb No.13550980
>>13550900
>CITRA
>running a game at full speed
Nigga it lags to shit on text games unless you dick with it for 8 hours, unless it's one of the very specific games that they intentionally coded it to work with
2aff05 No.13550983
>>13550980
Etrian Odyssey 4 runs fine at 400% speed
c555fb No.13550986
>>13550983
EO4 is one of those games, it runs like trash 99% of the time
93c36b No.13550989
>>13550980
The alternative is buying a handheld console, which is fucking stupid.
9ae319 No.13550997
how is it compared to eo4? that shit was pretty lackluster
523656 No.13551046
I know piracy is a good tool to try games before suporting shit devs. No questions there.
But shilling for 100% piracy all the time is one of the reasons few good devs even bother nowadays. And EO is a good franchise.
904b26 No.13551073
>>13551046
i bought the eo games up until the shit they pulled with eo:u 2
i'm pretty sure i'm not their audience anymore
820ea6 No.13551080
>>13551046
Fuck off, retard.
3f1c0f No.13551087
>>13551046
Hey, we're advertising it for free by even acknowledging it's existence. We are doing Atlus a service by raising awareness.
0948b1 No.13551113
>>13550989
No. What's actually stupid, though, is playing a no-glasses 3D + touchscreen game on a regular screen also sans additional touchscreen. Prove me wrong.
63a38c No.13551199
>>13550885
Who cares when Grimoire exists?
4adb4d No.13551235
>>13550926
>they didn't learn from EOUntold 2
But they did. The only DLC in V are cosmetics and ezmodo grinding missions, aside from the FM soundtrack that wasn't available in IV in any way shape or form.
ebe3f7 No.13551675
>>13551235
>cosmetic DLC
Back in my day those used to be called "unlockables".
>ezmodo grinding missions
Which are AIDS and leave you wondering if the game balance was fucked with to encourage buying it. It's a violation of trust (plus, these used to be called CHEAT CODES and didn't cost money)
>FM soundtrack
Which is included for free in every other 3DS release, and was only cut from IV due to time restraints and Index Corp imploding from corruption.
Atlus are just jews and they've been tainted by the lust for DLC kikery ever since SMT IV.
fa79be No.13551785
How lewd are the lolis in this one?
4adb4d No.13551807
>>13551675
>Which is included for free in every other 3DS release
The part you deliberately omitted is that "every other 3DS release" is a DS remake with an existing FM soundtrack, while V is a completely new title. If the DLC option is prerequisite to getting the FM soundtrack and avoiding the situation with IV where it was canned, then I can only consider it a net gain.
ff713f No.13551858
>>13550885
this game has been out for over a year now, go learn japanese instead of waiting for a pozzed translation you cucks.
9531a6 No.13551883
>>13551675
> leave you wondering if the game balance was fucked with to encourage buying it.
haha
is this your first dungeon crawler?
there is ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance that they made the game so hard you have to buy DLC to make it playable.
fuck it sounds like a dream come true if it were the case though, god i would kill to have that happen
but it never ever will
atlus loves the casual audience and every one of their franchises is for them now.
let's say the base game has the depth of a puddle, that DLC is going to make the sun dry it up and have no depth at all is what's really happening
9531a6 No.13551890
>>13551046
>EO is a good franchise
would have agreed with you before III was released, then it became mediocre. with IV it became unsalavegable little kid's game. "we want the pokemon audience"
8042e6 No.13551910
>>13551785
this is an important question
3da4fa No.13551947
DOES IT HAVE SEIYUU?
No seiyuu, no buy (or pirate.)
820ea6 No.13551964
>>13551947
>wanting voice acting when it isn’t needed
This is some alternate world, isn’t it?
2aff05 No.13551973
>>13551883
>there is ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance that they made the game so hard you have to buy DLC to make it playable.
They made Untold 2 harder so that it was only playable when in Story mode unless you use specific builds. Atlus isn't right in the head.
9531a6 No.13551986
>>13551973
i don't believe you
3f1c0f No.13551994
>>13551947
Link includes undub.
>>13551973
>>13551986
It wasn't that it was harder, it's that every boss has huge HP bloat to account for Fafnir's burst damage.
c555fb No.13551997
>>13551973
"harder"
please EOU2 was just health spongy as shit so anything that wasn't "pure damage" was bad.
Mainly to balance around the horrible supermoves.
But that wasn't DLC that's just a horrible game
ebe3f7 No.13552057
>>13551883
They did it with SMT IV, then they did it even harder for SMT IV:f. I don't trust Atlus not to pull this shit anymore.
>>13551807
Point still stands, they took something that was previously free and made it paid. EOIV's FM track was going to be free as well. It was cancelled because Index Corp imploded and Atlus was in limbo because they needed a new owner, not because it wasn't financially viable.
9531a6 No.13552069
>>13552057
>they did it with SMT IV
uhhhhhh
have you considered you're just a casual? there are girls that get every ending in that little kid game. have you never played nocturne?
3da4fa No.13552079
>>13551994
>>13551997
>Start playing pirated EOU2 story in picnic, just to complete it for completions sake.
>My fucking face when Fafnir has transformation which unlocks upgraded skills and supermoves.
>10 elemental random hits to enemy party.
>Force burst which does 99999999999999 damage.
What the fuck. That class is so retarded strong.
e06cba No.13552088
can you still get a qt doggo swordsman?
ebe3f7 No.13552227
>>13552069
>SMT IV/f have their balance fucked with to try encouraging you to buy microtransaction-tier DLC
<uhhhhh ur just casual
>
Just because the game is broken as fuck and I strolled through the game one-shotting every boss except for the Minotaur doesn't mean the game balance wasn't fucked with to encourage buying the DLC, retard.
9531a6 No.13552246
>>13552227
you one shotted bosses but you're complaining it's too difficult? i don't get it
ebe3f7 No.13552304
>>13552246
again, they fucked with the game balance to encourage buying DLC, the fact that the game is still piss easy despite this doesn't change that fact, it just shows nuAtlus' incompetence
Examples since you don't "get it":
>macca is extremely scarce unless you grab the fundraiser skills and grind your balls off mugging demons for 35k macca/hour near endgame… or you can buy the DLC and get hundreds of thousands of macca in mere minutes goyim!
>exp curve slows down extremely hard in the 60's, so if you want those extra levels for the optional endgame content (and levels do mean a LOT unlike older games since you have no VIT stat, so your raw health needs to meet damage checks) you can either grind your balls off or… buy the DLC and gain a full level every single battle goyim!
>AP is finite per playthrough and the unlockable apps are intentionally obtuse with many hidden behind other unlocks and even story progression to make it easy to fuck up your allocation, good thing you can BUY DLC TO GET INFINITE POINTS
None of these things make the game actually hard, again, because it's a broken piece of shit of a game so easily snapped in half that Final added damage gates to the bosses to stop you from skipping the scripted story scenes, but it's clear they made a serious attempt to chafe people with annoyances on the hopes they'd cave and buy the DLC. It's disgusting and nuAtlus can go fuck themselves for it.
Even after the insane backlash EOU2 got, they're still trying to push DLC in EO5, so they've learned absolutely nothing.
3f1c0f No.13552335
>>13552304
Not to mention the DLC bonus bosses require specific DLC only skills and strategies to beat.
4adb4d No.13552346
>>13552057
>EOIV's FM track was going to be free as well
For amusement's sake I'd enjoy seeing you try to substantiate that claim, but your point about it being free is irrelevant since it doesn't exist. Not in-game. Not a CD release. Not even a pack-in bonus of selected tracks. I'll take the paywall if it means I can pirate the music because it actually saw release.
b2485c No.13552910
Nice, got the game pre-ordered. Will alleviate the wait time it takes from the game to arrive here.
3da4fa No.13553890
>It's undubbed.
>The seiyuu are preserved.
It's beautiful.
f33466 No.13553969
>>13553890
Seiyuufag pls go.
Voices have no place in EO, whether they're your jap waifus or not.
c7525e No.13553997
>>13553969
But you can turn them off, can you not?
3da4fa No.13554018
>>13553997
The developers kept the mentally impaired in mind and graciously allowed the option to turn them off.
f33466 No.13554020
>Yurop retail edition doesn't come with the artbook and CD
>Not sure whether to order a US copy and pay lots for shipping or just let it go
Help me
>>13553997
Yeah, but their presence at all is indicative of a desire to make the games more like a standard JRPG. It's the top of the slippery slope down which a wider audience lies.
9531a6 No.13554048
>>13554020
really? the voices are what make you think it's casualizing? not the expert difficulty being dumbed down and having the ability to change the difficulty whenever you want anyway? not the dungeons becoming tiny so you don't have to trek back very far to get home (not that you'd run out of the casual as fuck, super cheap level 1 item escape rope anyway)? or the 2D sprites being replaced with 3D models that are heavily animated, making it difficult to imagine what a battle with them would look like since they're already in motion? that's very distracting to me, I fucking hate 3D models.
f33466 No.13554094
>>13554048
I agree with you one the models, imagination is what I was getting at with the voices. They had the story modes in the Untold games and they're really just one step away from putting a fully voiced story mode in the next EO, completely killing the tone of the games and the player's ability to use any imagination.
1c77a5 No.13554095
c8f85b No.13554134
>>13552346
> DLC for a pocket game.
I don't care how much mobile has normalized this it is still disgusting.
f33466 No.13554136
>>13552088
>>13554095
No, but you can get a rabbit swordgirl or a cat swordtrap.
839b54 No.13554162
This might not be the thread to ask this but, In EO3 is more effective against an enemy that deals stab damage to wear armor or to have an accessory that resists stab damage?
9531a6 No.13554266
>>13554136
so fucking gay
thousands of human sprites and they can't do us the favor of even one single anthro. just this 2% shit. they don't even have tails.
>>13554094
i just think optional voice acting is really the least of all evils to happen to this franchise. wizardry 8 had your characters interject at times and exclaim during fights and in my opinion it didn't take away from the game at all. it added to it.
but then again that game had an extremely deep character creation screen and i doubt we'll ever see anything like it again. you got to choose your voice actor and choose your character's personality that would determine what they say and how they say it, rather than atlus deciding for us.
aa6f22 No.13554309
What's all the extra shit in the mega? Do I need it or can I just install the .cia?
b2485c No.13554477
>>13554134
Atlus have been doing that ever since 2013, locking important content like quests, bosses and maps. It's a miracle EOV only has cosmetic shit locked and not 2U tier DLC.
f33466 No.13554604
>>13554477
>It's a miracle EOV only has cosmetic shit locked
The miracle of angry otakus. When 2U bombed Atlus decided to pay attention.
b2485c No.13554699
>>13554604
It sold the worst in the series lmao.
9531a6 No.13554713
>>13554699
so glad to see those low sales for mystery dungeon. fuck that pokemon manchild garbage. makes me sick to my fucking stomach i'm angry just remembering it exists.
dbc3fe No.13554732
I hate that they replaced the beast people with animal-eared people.
ddefd4 No.13554747
im glad furries didn't get what they wanted
9531a6 No.13554761
>>13554747
no furfags play etrian odyssey, even 4 on the easiest difficulty would be too challenging and "boring" for them.
the only thing that suffers from them removing the beast class is aesthetic diversity.
ddefd4 No.13554770
>>13554761
you are a dumb furfag who already got served earlier in the thread. begone with you.
9531a6 No.13554786
>>13554770
furfags play overwatch and only own a 3ds ironically and their most played game on it is animal crossing for 10 hours.
ddefd4 No.13554797
>>13554786
you would know your peoples habits i huess
6f08ec No.13554805
>>13554048
You didn't mention the auto-mapping - floors and walls. It's like I'm not even playing an Etrian Odyssey game - amazing!
9531a6 No.13554824
>>13554805
oh i forgot about that shit haha. isn't it set to automap by default too? you have to go to options and turn it off rather than the other way around. amazing.
i remember back in 2012 in the smt general on 4chan people were extremely optimistic about the prospect of a sega buyout. everyone had nothing but good things to say about it. i wonder how they all feel now, now that sega singlehandedly destroyed literally everything, literally everything.
383242 No.13554828
>>13554713
Mystery Dungeon games existed before Pokemon dipshit.
9531a6 No.13554845
>>13554828
the first and final nail in rogue-like's coffin, so far from its original vision now (that was shit to begin with) that even calling it a rogue-lite is a stretch.
2aff05 No.13554858
>>13554845
>the first and final nail in rogue-like's coffin
Yeah such a dead genre that you still get multiple completely different games in the genre
fuck off retard
9531a6 No.13554865
>>13554858
name ONE lmao you have rogue-lites in mind.
i guess there was that epic as fuck anime roguelike where you can fight dio who uses za waruldo that i upvoted on reddit and reblogged on my jojo tumblr, is that what you have in mind? what a great addition to the genre
3da4fa No.13554886
Can you morons please stop feeding replies to this retarded furfaggot?
51cba3 No.13554919
So is the translation good enough?
6f08ec No.13554930
>>13554824
III was weird and IV was clearly aimed at an expanded audience. I knew the franchise was doomed when they felt the need to remake the original, which remains totally playable. Sad.
9531a6 No.13554938
>>13554930
what do you mean when you say it's weird? I've played every etrian odyssey except III and I keep debating with myself over whether I should play it or not. what's stopping me from immediately picking it up is allegations it's stupidly easy, moreso than IV on expert.
6f08ec No.13555000
>>13554938
I liked it but lost interest, unlike 1 and 2. There were like… quest missions where you'd have guest characters, I believe controlled by AI. There was also a mechanic where you were sailing around the world getting boat upgrades. Sorry, it's been years. Play it, it wasn't bad, just weird.
11bcb4 No.13555242
>>13554930
>the original, which remains totally playable.
It deserved a remake more than most games. The original was a buggy, imbalanced mess and featured tooltips that outright lied about how skills work. Of course it's playable; people played it, but it needed that extra polish to really help it shine.
b2485c No.13555640
>>13555242
II was unbalanced too but it's perfectly playable at least. 2U somehow managed to be even worse.
6f08ec No.13555860
>>13555242
I did everything in the original EO, I don't remember bugs. It got remade 6 years after the original released for a system that could play the original, that's fucking ridiculous. What did they add? 3D graphics and weeb shit. Just forge ahead for fuck's sake, the first 3 were good games - they aren't mistakes which need to be corrected. Cash grabs.
2aff05 No.13555926
9531a6 No.13555941
>>13555926
>C:\raft is a homage to the Rogue and JRPG genres, while being an easily accessible and expansive experience. Within minutes you can already be collecting tons of loot, exploring your hard drive, and dying. The game features practically no story, but many ways to play, some of which only unlock after beating the game at least once,
it's a rogue-lite just like i told you it'd be. rogue-likes are dead.
2aff05 No.13555943
>>13555941
You keep moving your goalposts
9531a6 No.13555952
>>13555943
uh, no? rogue-like is very easily and clearly defined. 2D tile-based, turn-based movement, procedurally generated dungeons, permanent death with zero items or stats carried over, complete loss of everything upon death.
very simple, only 3 criteria. if it meets this it is a true rogue-like. your link is missing the last one. therefore it is rogue-lite.
2aff05 No.13555961
>>13555952
>permanent death with zero items or stats carried over, complete loss of everything upon death.
Both ADOM and Elona don't fit that criteria
You can stop moving goalposts now.
9531a6 No.13555967
>>13555961
what does two games being rogue-lites prove?
go ask rogue-like general on /vg/ over on 4freechan if they consider it a rogue-like and they will say no. they still talk about it there but they all know it isn't one.
as for adom it's so shit no one even cares to argue over semantics about it. never seen it discussed in a positive light even once.
9531a6 No.13555971
>>13555967
by "it" i meant elona.
c555fb No.13555993
>>13555967
>it's another retard roguelike -lite autism thread
Man I didn't even have to bring up how bad the berlin interpretation is this time
2aff05 No.13555994
>>13555967
>go ask rogue-like general on /vg/ over on 4freechan
Why would I care about the judgement and opinions of like-minded degenerates? The fact that you think ADOM is a roguelite is enough to discredit your existence let alone the fact that you are unironically recommending cuckchan.
9531a6 No.13555998
>>13555994
it's not like there's any rogue-like threads here for you to ask. personally i stopped visiting that general after none of them minded and even defended the introduction of hardcore leftist politics into dungeon crawl stone soup.
as for adom i didn't call it a rogue-lite. i said i don't know, no one knows, because no one recommends it or talks about it.
820ea6 No.13556489
>>13553997
That doesn’t matter. They still allocated funds for something that was useless that could have been put elsewhere.
8d94ca No.13556852
Now that I'm done with V,
EOU2=EO3>EO4>EOU1>EOV>EO2>EO1
c555fb No.13556888
>>13556852
U2> anything
well good to know bait is still alive no matter how dead the thread
3da4fa No.13557280
Man, the first floor is mega comfy.
>Walking around with my doggo taking care of any ills
>Slowly beating up on acorns gettin them gainz
>Find a turtle that bites off all the fingers
>Try to knock its bitch ass out with my ripped as shit Pugilist
>It doesn't give a shit and keeps defingering me
>Finally outsmart it and get my 100en. Feels good man.
>Stumble my way to the other side of the shore to inspect some loot
>Get ambushed by a Venomous Leech while picking it up
>It spits mega-AIDS at everyone
>We all go home in bags.
Great game would play it again.
884142 No.13557375
There are things about 3 and 4 that aren't present in 5, this game really feels like a return to the roots - for better or worse.
The lack of an overworld makes it feel less adventurous, and removes the "travel" aspect which was one of my favorite things about 4. There was a certain comfiness to having one party travel around the world seeing different biomes, enemies, ecosystems and so on. It stirred imagination and emphasized the "explorer" part of the fantasy concept. I understand the first two games didn't have this, and not all of this side-content was necessarily loved by the faggot purists, but it made the game more unique, at least to me. The main dungeon itself is more focused now, but at what cost?
Also: floor jump is a convenient feature in theory, but it can have potentially aggravating side effects. In 4, individual dungeons were at most 3 floors deep, meaning that going balls deep without an Ariadne Thread wasn't always a death sentence. To even get that deep you'd have to leg it all the way down.
Now you can jump into a stratum's last floor without a moment's hesitation; but the travel is one-way: A momentary lapse in thought could have you stranded and you might as well restart lest you go about the tedious task of running all the way back to the pole. Floor jump for specific floors also means autowalk is obsolete at best and your time on each floor will be temporary. All of these problems could have been fixed by removing floor jump in favor of geomagnetic poles. Autowalk would be useful again, you wouldn't be able to instantly get stranded at the press of a button, and it would fall in line with earlier entries. The challenge would increase and the potential frustration would decrease. As of now it feels like they weren't thinking and tried to rework a perfectly good system.
Besides those gripes and the severe shortage of flat portraits I'm enjoying myself a lot, and think the game turned out really well.
f33466 No.13557550
>>13557375
I liked the overworld stuff mostly as a way of taking a break from the dungeoneering, it keeps things feeling a bit fresher but for me the bulk of the exploratory feel was always in delving deeper and deeper into a single dungeon. That's why I like the way 3 did it, you have an overworld but still only one dungeon, plus sailing is comfy.
>severe shortage of flat portraits
For shame. It seems like the artist has been gradually moving away from his loli roots.
2fca8d No.13557564
>>13557550
>It seems like the artist has been gradually moving away from his loli roots
Hopefully we got some top quality ara.
c555fb No.13557565
>>13557550
weirdest part is he still draws loli porn if I remember
3f1c0f No.13558083
>>13557375
>>13557550
Yeah the overworld was great. Hopefully they add mini-dungeons to EOU3, rather than just sea battles.
f0b7bd No.13558256
>>13557550
I hated the overworld in EO4. The reason why i liked EO3 was because of the one continuous dungeon that you delved into. The overworld ruined that.
f91ea3 No.13559125
this is going to sound dumb but how do you pronounce etrian? i want to know so i don't sound retarded when i pre-order it at gamestop.
is it eh? eh-tree-on?
or eee-tree-on?
or what
3f1c0f No.13559168
2de07c No.13559253
>>13550885
>Etrian Odyssey 5 leaks a week early
so, how is it? im planning on going full goy on this game
b2485c No.13559274
>>13559253
Just reached the second stratum, it's really fun.
06a1a0 No.13559280
>>13559168
This, heavy emphasis on the second syllable.
f33466 No.13559310
>>13559274
How does the difficulty compare to the earlier games? I'm guessing it's the easiest yet.
b2485c No.13559332
>>13559310
Well so far it's harder than IV.
f0b7bd No.13559918
>>13559332
From what i played of the demo, even on hard the game isnt too hard.
b2485c No.13560097
>>13559918
Yeah, being harder than IV is nothing to write home about, then again I have played through the Japanese version up to 3rd stratum so it might get harder later on.
6c4cdd No.13560166
What's your party guys? I started off with a Fencer, Masurao and Pugilist on the front row with a Dragoon and Healer in the back.
Ive been thinking of changing it up just to try the other classes out. I switched out my pugilist for a necromancer when i got to the 2nd floor but im not sure if i want to keep him. I just sort of wish i could see the possible skills before they "unlock" at the next tier before making my decision
884142 No.13560457
>>13560166
Pugilist, Masurao, Dragoon, Necromancer, Warlock
I really like my party but I feel like I don't have enough heals, not sure if I should change someone out or keep going. Might re-class my Necro into Herbalist or Shaman or something
all that said, my EO4 run was the most basic-bitch team imaginable. I wanna avoid generic cookie-cutter party dynamics and do something interesting this time around.
any tips?
f91ea3 No.13560466
>>13560457
someone on 4freechan at EOIV's launch did a team with five medics, that was pretty cool.
6f08ec No.13560594
>>13560166
Pugilist, Harbinger, Dragoon
Necromancer, Botanist
Not far enough to know what I like - the Pugilist, Necromancer and Botanist are good. I've got the Dragoon focusing on the Decoy Bunker and the Harbinger focusing on Miasma Armor. We'll see.
b2485c No.13560764
>>13560166
I'm running Dragoon/Masurao/Pugilist at front and Warlock/Shaman in back. It's smooth sailing atm.
3da4fa No.13561312
>>13560166
Rolled a Pugilist and Harbinger for front row, and Rover, Shaman, and Warlock for backrow. Things have been tough so far (I'm only on floor 2) because of the lack of dedicated at-will healing but it's fun. I really like all these classes, but I can't see how they're going to interact very well with each other. I'm hoping like hell that once I "unlock" the next abilities that it all just meshes and comes together, because fuck man. Right now it's 5 ragtag morons with no synergy trying to make it work, and it just aint.
But I wont give up. My autism won't allow me to bench people. This is my people, and they will conquer this fucking tree.
3da4fa No.13575185
When do you unlock the advanced version of classes? End of 2nd Strata? I'm trying to conserve skill points for it, and it's beginning to make the game tougher.
6b09b2 No.13575199
>Tfw buyfag
>Bongland release not till early november
>Only games i havent played are the untold games
H-HERE I GO!
90b3e5 No.13575225
>>13575185
Defeating the 2nd Strata boss unlocks Legendary Titles. Did that shit last night then spent hours just deciding what I wanted to do with my team.
shit is fun
3da4fa No.13575345
>>13575225
>Defeating the 2nd Strata boss unlocks Legendary Titles.
Fugg. I'm only at the end of the 5th floor, and already I've got some points saved up that are making the game harder than it otherwise would be. I don't think I'll able to hold out till then.
b2485c No.13575479
On 8F now, this game is shaping up to be my favourite in the series. I love that it's straightforward dungeon crawling with no bullshit attached, although I did like sailing and skyship from III and IV respectively since they emphasise the adventuring aspect of the series.
>>13575199
You're not missing anything by skipping the Untold remakes. I only recommend U1 if people haven't played EO1 yet.
8fe68b No.13577081
>>13575479
If there's ever an EO6, I really hope they have a mix between EO3 and EO4's travel mechanics. EO3's system was nice, but having the sea missions take you straight to the boss felt kinda lackluster. EO4's approach gave a nice sense of freedom, but splitting the game across small, separate dungeons rather than having a giant labyrinth made each dungeon feel like less of an accomplishment. The adventure feels less like a grand trial and more like a string of inconveniences to me. I think the ideal overworld would be a bunch of optional minidungeons separate from Yggdrasil, and each one would end in a miniboss. That gives you the freedom to explore without sacrificing the feeling of scaling a huge labyrinth. I was kinda sad to see that EO5 ditched the overworld entirely. Why establish all these locations outside of Iorys and create this stunning view of the continent if we're only going to spend all our time in one city?
3f1c0f No.13577906
>>13577081
What you could do is have the entire world be Yggdrasil Blame style and have vehicle sections for crossing great distances, like maybe you need a wind sail boat to cross a gap in the branches or something. Integrate both ideas.
b2485c No.13578002
>>13577081
I had a similar idea in that I'd like something with a main 30 floor dungeon like 1, 2 and 5 along with sub-dungeons similar to IV's caves. You use some kind of vehicle to travel to sub-dungeons in order to complete certain quests and maybe fight bosses too. I think these ideas would be a good fit for VI if they decide to make it instead of 3U since it will be the last 3DS game.
f33466 No.13578161
>>13577081
>If there's ever an EO6
The sales for the series have been steadily increasing so they probably won't want to stop yet. I did hear that they plan to stop after 6 but I don't know how true that is and even if it is true, high profits might change their mind.
>>13575199
You can always just import a US copy, it's what I'm doing. That way you can also get the artbook and CD for the pre-order which aren't available here as far as I'm aware.
4adb4d No.13578168
>start game
>name guild
>listen to all those nice jp voice options i'm not going to use
>see color pickers
>fucking color sliders
>unlink option to set shaded colors independently
>heterochromia options
>paralysis sets in
>haven't opened the 3ds again since
I need like six solid hours to devote to character creation and I can't find the time. God damn it.
3f1c0f No.13578172
>>13578161
Next game might be New3DS exclusive.
3da4fa No.13580707
Finally ready to tackle the 5th floor boss. Hopefully my shitty team can handle it. As long as I can bind something and eliminate 99% of its danger, then I should be good to go.
6c4cdd No.13582605
>>13578168
I feel the same way when im choosing skills
Also ive been meaning to ask, is anyone using the evade fencer at all? Is there any benefit to using one over a paladin in hard mode? I feel as though they're nice for random encounters but would get destroyed by a boss. Im using a support with blind skills to help out with all of his possible skills but i haven't got anything concrete planned.
3da4fa No.13582655
>>13582605
>Is there any benefit to using one over a paladin in hard mode?
>Using a tank
lmao casual. Send help.
What support is that, by the way? None of my classes can blind at all.
6c4cdd No.13582669
>>13582655
It's the botanist, its the skill at the very bottom called dark smoke
3da4fa No.13582685
>>13582669
Well darn. I went with the Shaman for my healing needs, and it's been quite a letdown, let me tell ya. I'm praying to god that the advanced class version will pick it up, because the base sucks shit at actually healing.
Hows the Botanist for healing? Pretty straightforward and braindead, a la Medic?
6c4cdd No.13582712
>>13582685
Yeah pretty much. Ive actually made 2 so far, one therian and the other a brownie and ive got to say its actually pretty straightforward as it goes. Level up skill for single heal and then gain line heal at rank 5. It also has status healing at base with a revival herb skill at rank 3. Not sure which way i want to build her now but i have a feeling going the poison botanist might not be so bad considering you seem to have most of the wanted skills in her base class.
3da4fa No.13582778
>>13582712
>single heal
>line heal
>revival
I'm super envious. The shaman is absolute dogshit in comparison. All it has is partywide prayers, with separate atk, def, hit, and ice, fire, volt resistance buffs (that also imbues your physical attacks with the corresponding element.) There's a side passive that you can level, up to 10, that adds a small heal per prayer, but I don't believe it scales awesomely. I've got one value point in it, and each prayer heals about 7-9 hp per cast at the cost of a whopping 15 TP. It's fucking nothing.
I've got some points stockpiled on her, so next time I play I'll dumpstat the heal passive and test how it goes, because that's the only option of health restoration she has so far.
6c4cdd No.13582807
>>13582778
Yeah I wasn't liking the shaman at all when I tried it so i just went botanist and never looked back. Maybe if when I unlock class titles i'll think about using one depending on what it does but for now im sticking to what works. Brownies and Celestrian have some pretty great racial skills too, im thinking of mixing and matching some in my party for some of these, especially game changer.
3da4fa No.13582826
>>13582807
Not a big fan of the racial skills myself. It's all either union skills (which can fuck off forever), or copy-paste abilities that all the races have, but not in the same order, that add flavor-text shit and small stat-gains. I'm trying my hardest to avoid them, after I got the obligatory mine/chop/take.
I'd rather have just that one more point in whatever ability, then the 5 AGI or whatever some race ability would give. Seems like the better deal.
6c4cdd No.13582850
>>13582826
Hmm I see well if you're interested the Botanist also has another skill that restores hp and tp every time you chop/mine/take (not fishing or hunting) and currently mine is at level 1 and it restores 10hp to 2 tp, so at max level it'll probably be pretty decent as a gimmicky skill to have if you're into that kinda stuff.
3da4fa No.13582883
Alright, I tested out the Shaman heal passive now. At level 1, Gospel made each prayer restore approximately 8-10 hp on cast. At 5 and 10 it has power spikes, which give you 14-15, and 22-24 respectively.
CERTIFIED DOGSHIT AND WASTE OF SKILL POINTS.
>>13582850
While that all sounds dramatically better than what I've got going, I'm an autist that sticks to his guns come hell or high weather, though I do like hearing how all the other classes handle so I can bite my thumb in envy. I'm just praying to god the advanced Shaman class unlocks all the real nigga shit. I've been saving up points for it.
4fb6a1 No.13582995
>>13551073
elaborate, anon. What shit did they pull?
f0b7bd No.13582996
>>13582995
So much fucking DLC. It was rediculous.
b2485c No.13583066
>>13582996
The DLC was so bad that the game bombed in Japan.
f0b7bd No.13583074
>>13583066
I hope EO5 is light on dlc. I wouldnt mind extra dungeons made after the game launched though.
b2485c No.13583094
>>13583074
V only has skins, pay2win shit and FM music now. The FM music was made after the game.
f0b7bd No.13583097
>>13583094
I think i'll get the fm soundtrack.
3da4fa No.13583322
>Guards challenge my guild to a kill-off to see who has the biggest dick
>As I'm slaughtering beasts left right and center, they start setting up emergency smoke signals
>Eventually the head honcho calls it quits and admits they aint shit compared to me
>Turns around to walk away defeated
>You can say something right now
>"If you're not god enough, get good."
git gud faggets
c555fb No.13583920
>>13582778
Shaman gets way better later on once the resistance debuffs start to matter, unless of course you're playing on basic in which case just hit auto and win like 90% of the fights
3da4fa No.13584126
>Hippogryph uses Wingshield
>Hippogryph uses Sky Dive
Any tips?
bb0683 No.13584146
How accurately can you remake the party from Made in Abyss in EOV?
a520a3 No.13584201
Shaman healing isn't a problem. They heal the entire party while buffing everyone. Give one the healing knife you find early on and they're good enough for everything I've done so far. A dragoon obviously helps to keep damage down. What does suck is the complete lack of status/bind recovery. Got to carry the items, and those are single target only. Keep in mind that the shaman's defensive buffs reduce the need for healing at all.
>>13583094
The FM soundtrack is a huge disappointment. They just took the default soundtrack and converted it. Just like I predicted they would. The result is nowhere as good as the older soundtracks that were made to be FM music from the beginning. It's like taking a piano song and playing it with instruments that clearly don't work with it.
>>13584146
Shaman or herbalist for girl, shaman works because she's useless on her own but motivates others, also twintails. Probably dragoon for roboboy, tanky with a gun and protects. Furry would be either katana or bow furry, or botanist. I guess you could make a bunny furry with a bow that uses a dog called Mitty
3dc128 No.13584221
>>13584201
Wait, is there actual furshit in this game or is it just kemonomimi?
a520a3 No.13584226
>>13584221
Just animal ears. One of the classes uses a bird or dog summon.
3dc128 No.13584236
>>13584226
Well I guess it's back to CoH for me then.
bb0683 No.13584279
>>13584236
At least you "kemonobros" are polite compared to regular furries.
3dc128 No.13584281
>>13584279
Please stop using that term
bb0683 No.13584286
>>13584281
There needs to be a better signifier term than 'maybe furry but not autistic' for you people to use then.
3dc128 No.13584299
>>13584286
No, just call everyone a furfag. Don't give any kind of furry a foot hold. If he's not autistic then it'd come across through their posting.
6c4cdd No.13585777
I'm really loving these little side quests that give exp they're pretty entertaining. Met a squirrel that was trying to get a fish so i just gave him one and got a whopping 400exp
Simply amazing
f33466 No.13585947
>>13585777
One thing that always bugged me about the first two games was that sidequests gave barely any reward and tended to be quite bland. I'm glad the later games improved them by giving exp and having fewer but more interesting quests.
a63c1d No.13586515
>>13557565
Himukai indeed still draws loli porn under a different name on Pixiv.
It's rarely all that lewd anymore, as ATLUS has expressly prohibited him from doing so, though.
a63c1d No.13586531
a63c1d No.13586549
>>13560166
Dragoon Dragoon
Dragoon Dragoon
Fuck youuUUUUUU
2d63db No.13586682
Hey what version of EO IV should I pirate? Does it matter?
I'm emulating.
a63c1d No.13586691
>>13586682
No game for you. Too bad.
Don't emulate, it doesn't work. It's hard to emulate Eo3, let alone something in Citra.
2d63db No.13586706
>>13586691
Intense doubt
Guess we'll see
24ee89 No.13586866
>went in blind
>rolled a fencer dragoon rover(hound hawk it's basically the RO hunter) necromancer and a masurao
>3 summon limit
>the bunker counts as a summon
ill make this shit work somehow
4f8330 No.13587603
there's nowhere to talk about this game other than 4freechan /vg/ and that place is fucking awful but it's the lesser of all evils. it's either there or gamefaqs.
this thread is so dead it went four days with no posts at one point. i don't know how it lived.
it makes me so depressed. 4freechan had so many good threads at EO IV launch. that was before moot fucked everything up.
now i feel alone
nothing but gays left on 4chan and nothing but nothing here at the good site.
f0b7bd No.13587696
>>13587603
The game comes out tomorrow so i think it will pick up.
4adb4d No.13587697
>>13587603
There will be more discussion once the game actually releases. I think that's tomorrow.
fa915e No.13587763
>>13555998
>lefties invade DCSS
uhhh when? I only play the tournaments and don't read any updates, this is terrible news
4f8330 No.13587827
>>13587763
they're changing titles and descriptions of some items. they think calling things foreign is "eurocentric" and they think words such as shaolin is racist and stuff like that.
majority of unique characters have been genderswapped.
there is now a transgender ghost.
an entire branch was in development and has been abandoned because it was deemed insensitive. no one knows any details about this other than the devs. it was a forest branch and no screenshots even are available.
this issue is exclusive to the tiles version but the generic human enemy now comes in a rainbow. it used to be only white but now they have four new ones that are dark skinned.
this is all just from v19 when i stopped playing. maybe new problematic content has been altered in v20 i haven't heard about yet. i complained about it in the DC:SS IRC which is full of redditors and even they agreed with me it's getting out of hand shockingly.
you know it's bad when even leftist retards are bothered by it.
2d63db No.13587955
>>13586691
It worked fine you're a retard
fa915e No.13588032
>>13587827
you mean the spriggan forest late game branch got axed because of PC
> fucking spriggers
3da4fa No.13588053
>Defeated Hippogryph
WOOOOOOO! Goddamn that was hard. Most of my party has 10+ skill points saved up so I'm not fighting anywhere near as effectively as I should be, not to mention my subpar as HELL lineup.
Time to sit for the next hour or so deciding on how I want to advance them all.
4f8330 No.13588761
I got it. I had my mom call and act all sensual to one of the male gamestop employees and coerce him into giving it up early. She gave him a bullshit story about how it's her son's birthday and how it would mean a lot to her and whatever normalfag babble.
When she showed up, he had left though and the only employees there were worthless retard holes who gave her a hard time and didn't want to cough it up. Women can't manipulate other women, only men. My mom was drunk as shit though and didn't back down, so here it is.
6c4cdd No.13588816
>>13588761
Sweet, I can't wait to get my copy of the game and finally start grinding up the lab for real instead of this level 10 character cap bs.
4f8330 No.13588832
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
i did an unboxing video and showed some of the art book in low res. enjoy my autistic commentary
3da4fa No.13588877
>>13588832
>Wubba lubba dub dub
Stopped instantly and reported. Off yourself you worthless piece of shit.
ed5d2a No.13588890
>>13588832
>direct linking to jewtube
>no webm
>bought it at gamestop
>sent her mom to buy it
kill yourself
3da4fa No.13588901
>>13588895
>my main audience
>6 views
>4freechan
I'll contribute as many reaction images as you need for you to feel "bored" enough to fuck off home to reddit.
b2485c No.13588988
>>13588053
I beat it on my first try but I was sort of familiar with his attacks. Goddamn Sky Dive hurts, make sure to bind the legs (and head) if you have a binder lads.
3da4fa No.13589032
>>13588988
I didn't even realize you could stop the Rest heal with head bind until my 6th or 7th attempt. RNG just wasn't in my favor. I haven't played since then, but I'm hopeful, very hopeful, that Mastery will cover some of the glaring holes in my lineup. I pray to God that Herald Shaman will have some decent passive heals.
Were you playing on faggot difficulty or Hard?
b2485c No.13589046
>>13589032
Hard, truth be told I weathered the sky dives until I realised I could bind the legs. That helped me finished it off before it could kill my entire party.
3da4fa No.13589077
>>13589046
My biggest problem was lack of DPS, honestly. I've got a Pugilist with One-two punch, so I was able to bind everything fairly successfully, but even with Bolt Prayer and constant Lightning (lvl 5) spam, I just couldn't utilize the bind time to put on the serious hurt.
I guess that's to be expected though when your Reaper has 18 skill points in the bank and the only other DPS is a Wolf Rover working quadruple time on binds/heals/debuffs with a starting pool of 30 tp. It was rough going.
b2485c No.13589119
>>13589077
I didn't level up the one-two punch skill, instead leveled up my Thunder Fist. It's so good for DPS especially against thunder weak foes like Hippoglyph. I spammed High Ground and Armor Pierce using my Masurao along with Ruinous Prayer using my Shaman for maximum damage.
I reckon you should've leveled up the Reaper's skills to help out against the Hippoglyph. You could've used the union skill analyze/analysis scope item to check it's weaknesses to aliments and go from there. Then again you made it anyway so I guess you will have an easier time deciding on what master titles to use.
3da4fa No.13589148
>>13589119
Yeah, I was deliberately holding myself back so that I could have better skill selection come Mastery. I suppose I could have just looked it all up and planned ahead on the wikia or something, but that's for faggots. It only really bit me in the ass whenever I had to fight bosses or FOE, but I made it work. You should level up One-Two by the by. That shit is godly as fuck, especially if you keep it at 4 or 9 for reduced TP costs.
How's your Shaman working out? Did you take it into Herald or the other one?
b2485c No.13589200
>>13589148
One-two punch eh? Will give that a shot once I start playing again. Shaman is really solid so far with the small heals and buffs, gonna decide on what master titles to use later since I'm taking a break. The Brouni union skills help out with survivability too.
Pics related are my party btw.
3da4fa No.13589267
>>13589200
>2 boys
Gay community.jpg
Seems solid. The shitty Shaman heals seem like they'd work well enough if you've got a Dragoon cutting damage down to nothing, alongside whatever the hell a Masurao does.
I'll let you (and everyone following along at home) know how Herald Shaman works out healing-wise. I've got at least a value point in every healing passive they have. Heal on turn, heal on damage, heal on steps, etc etc, alonside the lifesteal active.
6f08ec No.13589382
>>13586866
Good luck. Necro can have 3 wraiths out, I've been leveling up the thing that summons them automatically.
a520a3 No.13589731
>>13589267
The cestus man doesn't count, he's actually manly. Unlike the rest of the androgynous faggots that make up the male portraits. Yes, like that shaman. Shamans work just fine as healers anyway. Max that passive that gives healing whenever they buff someone, as well as their skill that increases buff speed and reduces TP cost. They have so much TP that they can keep throwing out a buff every turn and still only be halfway empty when everyone else is starting to run out. Carry a few healing items just in case. The biggest problem they have is status, binds and people in need of revival since they can't do anything about that without theriacas or nectars.
>>13589382
You don't want three wraiths out. You're missing out on both the bunkers and the rover's pet.
3da4fa No.13589783
>>13589731
>Shamans work just fine as healers anyway. Max that passive that gives healing whenever they buff someone, as well as their skill that increases buff speed and reduces TP cost.
Don't lie to me, man. I have a shaman as well, and (at the time) enough skill points to throw around. I have tested this. That skill is SHIT. The scaling is so super bad it's not even worth taking outside of a value point. Bad skill. See here >>13582883 22-25 per cast for 10 skill points? No thank you.
What isn't bad, however, is the Herald Shaman healing. That stuff is quite legit so far. Still doesn't solve the lack of revive, ailment/blind, but as long as you don't get one or two shot, you will be alive and kicking to pick yourself back up. With enough skillpoint investment, you might even be able to get a form of burst heal via lifesteal, as well. I haven't invested enough points into the skill to see just how well it scales, but initial appraisal is good. By doing 70-100 or so damage, it restores around 28-35 hp at level 2. Extremely fast activation speed, maybe even instant.
6c4cdd No.13590895
Finally feel like ive decided on my party roles.
1 dodge fencer, 1 bind cestus and 1 single sword masurao up front, with a warlock and botanist in back line. I'll let you guys know if running around without a dragoon is any worth it
c21fb6 No.13590954
>>13584299
>If he's not autistic then it'd come across through their posting.
Even then, people would still find a reason to sperg out about a poster.
5919b6 No.13591049
I plan to pick a team via dick meta. Will see how long it lasts.
8042e6 No.13591062
6c4cdd No.13591248
Shit, anyone know why the FM synthesis soundtrack is shown as "expired" in the download page? I wanted to get it before starting up my game again
3da4fa No.13591387
Man, Necros seems fun as HELL. After being teased by Lili joining the party for a bit, it made me realize how orthodox my class selection was. Too bad the hardcap summon limit cucks you out of anything truly crazy.
c555fb No.13591407
>>13591387
Necro's bad unless you use a gimmick strat with them. Bad dps and mediocre everything else, except when gimmick'd up where you become death destroyer of worlds
cbdaad No.13591435
>>13552057
4 you bought DLC to have money more than EXP.
I remember playing through 4 recently and all the last pieces of armor in the game cost extortionate amounts.
I set up a build that allowed me to get macca for every recruitment, max out my begging and bound enemies for max macca each time as ASAP at the cost of skill slots, demon slots and various other bonuses that would be more practical short term.
This was all pre planning to minimax my money throughout the game, and I only had enough to actually buy my way into the fucking store, every piece of armor in that store, not set, piece costed 3 to 6 times as much at the initial buy my way in fee and you had to make that much 3 to 6 times for each piece.
Also if you want anything to actually be worth using this armor on? Better buy more fucking DLC so you can have post game content.
Pic related is my file after finally getting that fucking demonica Armor for 1 million Macca, the only reasonable way was to trigger a quest that made an enemy drop a quest item sellable for 5000 macca and getting around 600 macca per recruit and 900 per full bind right at the end of the game, but good lord never actually finish the quest.
cbdaad No.13591459
>>13591435
Also for context, the DLC makes you fight demons that just casually drop high macca value items in mass and also give you major riches for binding and recruiting them as soon as Madusa dies which is extremely early in game.
a520a3 No.13591509
>>13589783
You can heal the entire party every turn for somewhere from half to a third of their health, especially early on where the static amount hasn't started falling off. If that isn't enough for you, you must be doing something pretty fucking stupid. And don't forget that you're reducing all the damage you take thanks to aegis prayer in the first place, which will always go first if you put some points in prayer mastery unless it's a shiny enemy. It's more than enough healing if you have something to reduce the damage you take, be it a dodge fencer or shield dragoon or even a necromancer or rover. You aren't so stupid that you ran in with four glass cannons and started screaming about how the buffer first healer second class can't single handedly keep them alive when they rush in with no regard for defense, are you?
Either way, it worked just fine for me and the only thing that gave me pause until I unlocked the secondary skills was the hippogryph since it does a ton of damage to the whole party. I just had to switch my tactics up for that a bit and play more defensively, and ruinous prayer was a huge boon when it came to both dealing with the attack debuff and breaking its shield.
a520a3 No.13591513
>>13591248
I'm seeing people saying that it is because it isn't available yet.
3da4fa No.13591582
>>13591509
>You can heal the entire party every turn for somewhere from half to a third of their health, especially early on where the static amount hasn't started falling off.
>10 hp per 15/11/9tp
>Implying this is half, or even a third of anyone's hp, at any point in the game
>Implying that 10 hp per cast does fuckall once you've played longer than 5 minutes.
>Implying this is good
You don't even deserve a single smug honestly, but I'm feeling generous.
6c4cdd No.13591624
>>13591513
That's a shame, here i was thinking I could get into it early on. Hope it gets released soon, although looking at the other DLC stuff theres a lot of cancer, although the portraits i wouldnt mind buying though.
And just found out that the innkeeper goes to the 3rd floor to bake bread the balls on this lady
a520a3 No.13591883
>>13591582
>10 hp
Where the fuck are you getting this? I made a level 1 shaman right now just to prove how full of shit you are, and at just two points in gospel she was healing for ~15 hp every time. Half health is an exaggeration but healing for almost a third of someone's health wasn't far off until health started going up faster thanks to the static heal amount.
Either way the point remains that shamans are more than enough to keep a party alive through the game and I've proved it, as have a bunch of other people. You were saying that their healing isn't good enough without the title when it quite clearly is. My gospel estimate was off the mark but it's still good enough. If you couldn't make it work when a bunch of other people have, we can deduce that you just need to git gud. Actually, while I was off the mark, you're just as off the mark yourself.
>10 hp per 15/11/9tp
At just two skill points in the skill it did 50% more than what you posted. As far as tp cost goes, that's assuming you have the prayer skills maxed, and why would you if you can't sustain the tp cost yet? Ruinous and aegis in particular are a waste to upgrade beyond level 9 for essentially the entire game, because all it does is increase the number of turns and what are you even going to do for all those turns? Defend? As well, focus prayer is very cheap and you need to put two points in it to unlock the rest of the tree, so there's a very cheap and quick heal if the only thing you need is the healing effect. It's an entire 1 tp if you have prayer mastery filled and not much costlier if it isn't filled.
6f08ec No.13592052
>>13589731
>you don't want 3 wraiths
I usually keep 2 out with the bunker. With the passives to summon automatically and bring them back to life how won't I become unstoppable?
90b3e5 No.13592084
>>13591582
>>13591883
Let me solve this. The Shaman skill that makes you heal when casting a buff heals you based on two different calculations. One is a static HP restore, the second is a percentage of the person being healed max HP.
Basically, >>13591883 probably had higher leveled characters when he made a level 1 brouni to test it, which means they had more HP, which means they had a bigger percentage heal.
3da4fa No.13592140
>>13592084
That's certainly true, but that's ignoring the point. That retard is autistically focusing on the exact numbers because he's an idiot, but that was never what I was aiming for.
I said two things. The scaling of the ability is shit, and that it's a terrible and inadequate source of heal, specifically around the 7th-10th floor and especially against the Hippogryph. One of these is inarguably true, and the other is true enough.
90b3e5 No.13592238
>>13592140
Well, I will certainly say that the healing from that move, when fighting the 2nd boss, is most certainly not enough. My Rover could only barely handle the healing in that fight and base Rover is a far better healer than base Shaman. I can't argue that because I had to change from Shaman to Rover to handle that fight.
6c4cdd No.13592981
easy looking random battle with 2 turtles and 3 ropers in the back line. mfw the ropers combine and leg binds everyone then proceeds to wipe my entire front line and then my back line
f0b7bd No.13594659
Whhat do i need to do to complete jenetta's excellent adventure? I think she wants to find honey but im not sure where to look.
6c4cdd No.13594947
>>13594659
Well I sure can tell you what its not. I defeated an owl bear thinking "oh hey a bear right? Likes honey maybe?" well that wasn't the case so I dont think that was it. Not unless you have to defeat all 3 of them. Let me know if you find anything, im having trouble with that quest too
aecae6 No.13594989
>>13594659
>>13594947
There's a certain room with a bees nest in it. I believe it's on the 3rd or 4th floor with stairs leading up to the next floor. Good luck!
aecae6 No.13595007
Also Got physical copy of EO5 today and since it won't use data from leaked download copy, I'm starting over. Stuck on deceding new party though.
Last one was Fencer, Puglist Front; Shaman, Rover and Warlock. Bows and elements Chase for days
6c4cdd No.13595128
>>13594989
Okay I managed to get it, thank you. I thought it was in one of those corners i never explored but I was mistaken
6c4cdd No.13595133
>>13595007
Sounds pretty good man, I'm currently using a party with line blind and having a dodge fencer with blind/parry on the front line. It seems to be working well so far but it takes a bit of time to kill enemies unless my masurao decides to crit every hit.
394b2e No.13595188
How do the race skills that raise the stats work? Is it a one time thing, or does it help increase my character's stats every level?
6c4cdd No.13595201
>>13595188
I believe its explained that its a one time thing and that depending on your characters level it varies. So its probably raised by whatever your character level is
f0b7bd No.13595221
This anigolem is kicking my ass. Should i just ignore the small guys and kill the body fast?
3da4fa No.13595243
Bodied the fuck out of the Lich King, until my TP ran out party wide. When he hit 1/5th of his hp remaining, I wasn't able to keep up the serious hurt and his adds starting getting to me. It was a bit of a lame finish, limping to the goal, but I still won on my first try.
This entire strata was actually super easy.
394b2e No.13595280
>>13595221
Yeah, kill the main body and the battle is pretty much over.
f0b7bd No.13595353
I killed the fucker. Took me like 7 tries.
2aed48 No.13595385
>>13588761
Your life sounds extremely cool to me.
7cb930 No.13595482
>>13595385
haha. thanks. maybe you would like my blog board. >>>/eerie/
3da4fa No.13596500
Does anyone know where the stairs to F16 are? I've been searching for 5 million years but they must be invisible or some shit. I've scoured every tile of 15 twice, and even did a quick sweep of 11-14 just to make sure.
a5fdee No.13599557
>not making your self-insert a brownie botanist (poisoner of course) with the cheeky voice
If you aren't doing this you don't know shit about video games.
233bb9 No.13599614
>>13599557
Speaking of voices, are there already lists for the voice actors for both versions (japanese and english) ? I can't even find a list for the Japanese one despite the game being released there for a long time.
9dc233 No.13599623
>>13599557
Does poison drop off in this game like it does in the others? It's always been pretty useful early on but eventually ends up useless because the damage doesn't scale well.
5f8073 No.13599634
>>13599557
>not making a brownie dragoon with a confident voice to tell you she'll use her tiny body to protect you all
381271 No.13599643
Is there any bonuses for playing the demo or should I just play the full game right away?
99997d No.13599665
The battle theme change past F15 is ace. Much more suitable and appropriate for tension and hype than the first one. Also comes with a really beautiful strata. The enemies on those floors are really lame though.
a5fdee No.13599748
>>13599623
I'm only on floor 2 so I don't know. Hope not though.
99997d No.13599775
>>13599748
Seems fine to me so far. I don't have many sources of poison so it's not like I use it very often, but when I can manage to land it, it always does 300+ damage to the enemies I'm fighting, who typically have 1-1.3k hp. Or so it was on floor 14-15.
But the damage scaling seems fine. I consider it an instant death sentence on any regular enemy, and immediately just stop hitting them to let poison take care of it while I focus on some other nerd. Even against FOE, it's very welcome.
9f1d6f No.13600179
Which party combinations have the best synergy?
Which combinations are the most broken? For some reasons I really like finding out these things
The top left Dragoon makes me want to name her Balalaika for some reason.
5f8073 No.13600252
>>13600179
I think people are still sort of figuring that out as they go since it was just released here but I will say that fencers seem to be the chasers of this game and they have plenty of multihit/multi follow up moves that might be helpful for whatever you're making.
Ive also heard a Necromancer/Harbinger has pretty good synergy, although im thinking more along the lines of getting an elemancer for that mana leak skill.
e0f222 No.13600475
SUPER OFFICIAL /v/ Etrian Odyssey V Class TIER RANKING FOR 2017!!!!!!!!!!
SUPER OFFICIAL!
"wow haha I cant believe atlus let this broken overpowered shit past playtesting" tier:
Necromancer
"okay this is pretty broken as fuck too, a combo of these two top tiers means i might as well be playing on Basic mode" tier:
Dragoon
the good shit:
Puglist, fencer
OK:
Masurao, warlock, botanist
haha, look at this retard waste a party space:
Shaman, rover
e0f222 No.13600483
>>13600475
oops, i forgot harbringer. he goes in his own :bad tier" located in between OK and last tier.
feel free to repost this extremely studied and comprehensive list my friends.
99997d No.13600503
>>13600252
I don't have a Necro, but Reapers seem pretty self-sufficient. They're all about inflicting ailments, and they have a skill that lowers enemy party bind/ailment resistance. Anyone at all who can take advantage of that will pair well with them.
381271 No.13600945
5f8073 No.13601003
>>13600945
It didn't look like I got any bonuses for playing the demo so i'd just start the game up right away
381271 No.13601118
6e56eb No.13601233
>>13588832
lol I just picked it up while people were grabbing Fractured Butthole for the midnight launch. People were picking up basically everything else being released on Tuesday so their manager was like "why the fuck not?" Basically, asking the manager was all I needed to do. Everything was golden. I have such a based fucking Gamestop.
b41c06 No.13601531
What level should i be when i fight the hyppogryph? Im level 28 and im still trying to kill the horse looking foes.
99997d No.13601638
>>13601531
I beat it at 29 with a subpar team and tons of unspent skillpoints. You can do it.
b41c06 No.13601665
>>13601638
I have a fencer, masurao, botanist, warlock, and dragoon. I just spent my skill points so im gonna attempt it. I can just rest my party later to reset my points anyway.
defa1b No.13601689
>>13600475
>Necro
What exactly makes them so good? And what makes Rover so bad?
Also, I have two groups going. One is Harbinger, Dragoon, Pugilist, Rover, Shaman. The other is Fencer, Masurao, Botanist, Necro, Warlock. The first team is insanely good. Tons of damage, tons of survivability. The second one just kinda sucks. I'm still early in the game, so maybe things will shift later, I'm just not sure what the issue might be.
e0f222 No.13601799
test wtf i cant post on my board
d0e58d No.13601847
14F now, that Dullahan FOE was a pain in the ass. Took it on with red aura and won with 2 of my party members being dead. Gonna grab some materials for more nectars.
b41c06 No.13601920
I killed the hippogryph. I maybe over prepared too much.
99997d No.13602384
>Crystal Dragon
Jesus this thing is a nigger. I might have to grind out a level or two as I've got some skill powerspikes coming that'd help me kill it.
fc5efa No.13602427
>>13602384
That thing is just a huge difficulty spike because he has high as fuck damage that you can't properly defend against. He even has a skill that both damages you more for each buff you have and that deletes your buffs.
The area behind the locked door on the second stratum has an enemy that lets you make leather armor with fire resist and high magic defense. It's really helpful.
99997d No.13602465
>>13602427
>He even has a skill that both damages you more for each buff you have and that deletes your buffs
Yeah. I noticed. That Clearbreath shit, or whatever it's called. Damn near instantly wiped my party since I have a Shaman. Breath attacks out the ass that have a variety of effects, high resistance to binds, useful ailments, and the elements, and then a modechange that (seems) to make him more physically orientated so you can't just protect against just magic and call it good. He's definitely harder than any boss/FOE before this. What a fucker.
Thanks for the tip about the armor though. I'll have to find the key to the doors (it's gotta be that Warlock book quest, right?) and go whip up some of those. It'd make for a nice change of pace anyways, since the plan was to just grind F20 for a level or two.
fc5efa No.13602969
>>13592084
>Basically, >>13591883 probably had higher leveled characters when he made a level 1 brouni to test it, which means they had more HP, which means they had a bigger percentage heal.
That's why I was only looking at the hp the shaman restored, and not what the others got. The others got much more, while the shaman was the one getting 15 or so hp each time they buffed themselves. While I'm back on shaman healing, I can confirm that none of the reported ways that appease spirits works are correct. It's not 25% of max health at rank 10 like that one faq claims, nor is it a set 25 hp. I don't know how it works exactly but both of these are clearly not true.
f98321 No.13603581
Just noticed the Demos up on 3DS' eshop. Does it have any carry overs like the Untold 1 demo does?
99997d No.13605413
>>13602969
>That's why I was only looking at the hp the shaman restored, and not what the others got.
In which case you're still mistaken. A level 1 Brouni Shaman with 2 points in Gospel restores approximately 8 hp to himself with each cast. Regardless it's all moot by this point. It's a one point wonder.
I don't know how Appease Spirits works either and I've only got 5 points in it, but I'd be fucking amazed if bumping it to 10 somehow increased its healing to 25% of max health. That'd be godlike healing and thus is too good to be true. I've seen mine range anywhere from 8-15 hp, on a level 50 party with 230 average max hp. I could buy that it goes to 20-25, but it's clearly not set.
194bcb No.13605415
>>13550885
Hopefully Mario leaks on Tuesday
e0f222 No.13606144
epic…… just so epic….. atlus dropping truth bombs… john lennons "imagine" played in my head when this dialogue came up…. fuck trump tbh…..
5f8073 No.13606676
>>13603581
You can carry all the progress you made in the demo over to the real game.
615a0e No.13606738
>>13606144
They just can't help but try and push that shit in everything…. is that a regularly occurring dialogue?
1333bb No.13606790
So how necessary is a Dragoon? Is it, "Good luck getting through a dungeon because everything's going to hit you like a fucking truck, you goddamned faggot" levels of necessary?
b41c06 No.13606826
>>13606144
Also at one point "spooky scary skeletons" comes up as a quest title. Granted i dont play EO for the exceptional writing anyway, i turn the voices off and skip all dialogue.
7ebfc2 No.13606831
>>13606826
It's still there even if you pretend it's not.
b41c06 No.13606842
>>13606831
I know that, i just ignore it. I still dont know how this got into the dialogue. I thought atlus purged its leftists during persona 5's translation.
34e533 No.13606959
Are the DLC portraits all out yet?
99997d No.13607389
>>13606790
Level 50 average and ongoing. No Dragoon at all.
b41c06 No.13607436
Great, now the lich king is fucking me. Should i be level 40 before attempting it?
e0f222 No.13607442
>>13607389
As a level 50, what do you think of this? >>13600475
99997d No.13607444
>>13607442
Korehaesadesu.jpg
In other words, it was so pitifully stupid that nobody took the bait, then or now.
a879de No.13607448
Finding Jenetta again on F3 was fun. Other then bread puns, is White Bread used in another recipe?
b41c06 No.13607454
>>13607448
Im on the 3rd stratum and white bread is not used.
e0f222 No.13607459
>>13607444
that's not a very productive post. maybe you aren't familiar with infinite HP wraiths one-shotting bosses or mega cannon dragoons doing 34,000 damage in one turn under the right conditions?
99997d No.13607480
>>13607459
Can't say that I am. Or that I rightly give a shit.
129b54 No.13607533
e0f222 No.13607535
>>13607480
ah alright, so no arguments against my ranking.
it's still SUPER OFFICIAL folks
99997d No.13607650
>Will you open the treasure box?
>Yes
>Monsters jump out of the box
>You've been blindsided
>Megavolt Marmot 1 uses Alternator
>(Rover) takes 287 damage and dies
>Megavolt Marmot 2 uses Dynamo Thunder
>Everyone takes 140-ish damage and is paralyzed
4a5113 No.13607783
Reached 16F, 3rd stratum boss wasn't too bad compared to the 2nd. Things are starting to get tougher now.
b41c06 No.13607806
>>13607783
I had more trouble with the lich king than i did with hyppogryph. I had just barely enough tp to take out the last wave before he killed me. The 1st boss was still the hardest so far.
4a5113 No.13607973
>>13607806
Admittedly I got lucky with the paralysis. I had my warlock deal with the adds via explosion.
b41c06 No.13607986
>>13607973
I used alot of blind skills. The boss didnt really do alot of damage, it was mostly a battle of attrition.
4a5113 No.13608007
>>13607986
Pretty much, I utilised binds, buster cannon and buffs. Luckily I had spare amritas for tp restoration, I knew traditionally we will be able to get more via 4th stratum.
99997d No.13608130
>>13607973
>I had my warlock deal with the adds via explosion.
Level 5 explosion with abating chant is so fucking good. Trivialized the fuck out of the Lich King battle. It's pretty much all that my Warlock uses now that I've got abating maxed. Might as well rename her to Megumin.
99997d No.13608476
>Defeated Crystal Dragon!
Fuck that piece of shit. That nigger would have been the final boss in a lesser video game. Never again.
>Crystal Dragon uses Clearbreath
>Crystal Dragon uses Clearbreath again immediately next turn as you pick yourself back up and rebuff
>Crystal Dragon uses Clearbreath again
15f09e No.13608589
>>13607535
No one is answering because it's obvious to all how true and official it is.
b41c06 No.13614075
When is the FM sound track getting released? tbh i like most of the orchestral songs in EO5. The 3rd stratum's music is way better in orchestral
9dc233 No.13616566
>>13614075
>The 3rd stratum's music is way better in orchestral
That's probably because these were made to be orchestral to begin with, so they sound better that way.
99997d No.13631080
Experience-on-step was a mistake. I grinded my party to 70, hit the final stratum, and instantly lost all will to play. I guess leveling my party was more important to my enjoyment of the game than I suspected. It's just not the same now that everyone on the party is in their final form.
b41c06 No.13631765
how am i supposed to complete the quest "gotta catch just one"? i think i need to lure it through the rocks but i cannot figure it out.
9dc233 No.13632350
>>13631080
>Grind to the level cap
>Complain that the game is now boring
You only have yourself to blame.
b41c06 No.13632813
>>13632350
the only grinding ive really done is stuff pre-boss so i would actually be able to kill it.
fc5efa No.13632917
>>13631080
The real level cap isn't 70, you ding dong. Keep going and you'll find out how to raise it.
cd1b38 No.13637449
>>13550885
>only one dungeon
>only one hub area to visit
>classes are essentially locked for other races until later on
>class changing costs 5 levels
>you can't multi class in a fashion of keeping skills you have learned
>not even mastered skills cross over into other class selections
>no customization in that regard of creating combinations
>no limiting skill set carry overs to 2 classes, as a way of solving issues of having one character carrying the skill set of 4 or 5 classes
This game seems rushed as all fuck. Sure, it may be reminiscent of the wizardry games having only one dungeon and etc, but jesus christ there's a severe lacking variety going on. This would've been much better having other towns and/or other dungeons to explore. Hell, give us a dungeon with some buildings and the insides of them as part of a dungeon, maybe as a town that needs liberated or something.
cd1b38 No.13637459
>>13637449
Forgot to mention that the DLC is at best 2 portraits. So it's only cosmetic, but seriously. DLC for 2 portraits. Could at least make it a bundle pack and add some intrigue.
cb68b4 No.13642332
>>13637449
Good troll. Made me respond.
655627 No.13642374
>>13637449
>complaining about having only one dungeon
>complaining dlc being cosmetic only instead of having dlc at all
hmmm
5f8073 No.13643022
sucks that my PC has no micro SD input device so i could post my QR code. Im kind of tired of seeing conrad in quests and would like to trade codes
Anyone know a way around it?
9dc233 No.13644616
>>13643022
It might work if you just took a picture of the code and posted it. If it's not blurry other people's 3DS should be able to scan it.
Unless the game doesn't actually show you your own code, in which case you're fucked. Just buy a USB SD reader, they're like 5 bucks goyim.
1c70f1 No.13648134
>>13643022
You can just scan other people if you don't want to see Conrad all the time
Codes are a bitch to scan and might take a while. Though there's a workaround. Save the guild card image, crop out JUST the QR code in Paint and then enlarge it. Scanning that by itself has a much higher success rate, I guess the rest of the card "distracts" the QR reader. I would post mine, but I can't find it. Just go look on the halfchan general, they have a huge amount over there.
cd1b38 No.13648909
>>13642374
I question the intense jewery going on that you have to pay like 1.99 unitedforcefully socialist dollarydoos for what amounts to two additional portraits. Two bits of pixel art, with only advancement being limited customization of skin color, hair, and eyes. That's about as much as you're gettting. I'm glad that their shit isn't like "pay 5.99 for a repeatable quest that hands you 6 million en", but still. I stand by that it seems horridly rushed in terms of content. We're getting into Dynasty Warriors levels here of same story being told, just new and improved, enhanced, and etc.
cd1b38 No.13648985
>>13648909
>>13637459
>>13637449
What the fuck is it with the 9's ?
It would've been better having different areas and dungeons to explore. Hell, I would be all up and game for having a dungeon where you're exploring a town in first person, going through buildings, going through streets. Perhaps it be a story related quest where you take on overworld enemies that aren't FOE until the town is "liberated" and it becomes another hub town you can visit. Bring back a number of the older classes. But what they'll likely do is bring back older classes in the form of DLC.
54c9aa No.13649211
>Bitch keeps dying right before the battle is over
That annoys me to no end. Does great damage but always get raped before I can revive her and then she misses a lot of exp. 3rd stratum is pretty comfy with the music
5f8073 No.13649758
>>13649211
Im guessing you have a 4 kat masurao? I honestly have to say that switching to 4 kat was probably a mistake when it comes to grinding because of the annoyance of how easily she dies from getting hit once EVEN WHEN I BLIND THE ENEMY is very frustrating. I would have preferred had i stuck to her 1 kat mode.
b41c06 No.13649883
>>13649758
I like blade master better anyway. Petal slash just ruins the enemy at max level, along with a maxed sword god and you can do some of the later encounters in one turn.
9dc233 No.13651508
>>13648909
>>13648985
>same story being told, just new and improved
>Wanting more story
Why? The point of EO is that it doesn't have much story. It's about exploring a labyrinth so each game has you exploring a different labyrinth. Any story beyond that is what the player imagines for themselves.
>Overworld
>Seperate dungeons
>Multiple hub towns
Again, why? Having more NPCs to talk to wouldn't really add anything, and exploring deeper into one dungeon big is more fun for a lot of people than having lots of tiny dungeons.
It sounds like you just want EO to be more like a standard JRPG instead of the pure gameplay dungeon crawler it is. Maybe these games aren't aimed at you?
5f8073 No.13653444
The game is pretty great so far but im not sure if my damage is good enough for strat 3 boss fight considering I just rested my team to rearrange some skill points around.
I mean I can barely just kill those wraith FoEs let alone the dullahans with my current set up. I got a nice amount of binds and status effects but I dont think my damage is good enough.
07323e No.13654378
>>13631080
Just retire your whole team. You will get stronger apprentices which you can make exactly like your old team and your new team will be some levels below your old one.