/tech/ - Technology★

>>994738 (OP)

memorize every url in existence

>>994742

This, casuals I swear...

DDG, also just wikipedia, stackexchange and dictionary searches without the middle man.

You can also just ask a lot on 8ch and get some pointers.

>>994745

>>994742

>>994747

feels like I'm on /g/

>>994747

>(((duckduckgo)))

gabriel (((weinberg))), known for literal datamining and shekel-grubbing

>>994749

/g/oogle is the best search engine amirite XD

>>994750

I know, still better than Google or Bing.

Searx over Tor is probably the best option, but can be slow and annoying with timeouts.

>>994749

Where's your argument?

>>994752

Searx is a piece of shit not giving good results. Just fucking ask on some imageboard and you'll get better results with less botnet

>>994738 (OP)

what kind of controversial information?

>>994772

Older political events and opinion polls in my country for example. Anything about jews or anything that can be considered racist. Anything conspiracy related. Try doing a search for "alex jones hillary clinton" or something like that, most of the results are mainstream media articles "debunking" alex jones, it's the same with anything else controversial. Their election meddling is well known since before but it's getting worse and worse to the point I can't use it any more.

>>994749

This is a thread where OP still uses Google in current year.

>>994738 (OP)

There are no good alternatives. YaCy is complete garbage in terms of results and everything else claiming privacy is uncomfortable or lying.

>DDG

The query syntax features (https://duck.co/help/results/syntax) sometimes work but are usually only partially considered or in some cases are just completely ignored. Seems to vary over time, too; exact matching was busted for most of fall 2018. Seems to work OK right now for a few toy queries. Not sure what they're doing.

>>994738 (OP)

searx.me is bretty good

Otherwise, we're left having to use news aggregators. Find one you trust and start building up a list of websites from there.

>>994738 (OP)

Just start an archive of everything controversial/non-normalfag-friendly you see, give it a sensible name, put it in a sensible folder, put it on a RAID that backs up onto another RAID, and then just use file search.

The crackdown is likely to get harder still, only a fool does not prepare.

>>994754

I disagree, I like searx. Its my main search engine. Im no english native and the language to search in option is great to retrieve local results. Other than that, searx seems biased towards german (which im not) websites, but I could always run my own instance and tailor it to personal preferences.

>>994738 (OP)

>I never liked the way DuckDuckGo presents search results

what's wrong? any examples? works on my machine.

>I've heard some dubious things about their owners

gee, I wonder (((who))) you heard that from

>http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/ddg.html

>Gabriel Weinberg, the founder of DuckDuckGo, used to run the Names Database.[1] This was a website that aimed to connect people who had lost contact by gathering lots and lots of e-mail addresses. Getting access could be done by either paying money, or submitting lots of e-mail addresses of other people. Since the service revolved around gathering personal information, it is very suspicious for Gabriel Weinberg to start a business that is privacy-oriented. [2]

he made a website where people could consent to give up their personal data. If you post you name and address on 8ch, should you then reject every new project by codemonkey because he let you?

>DuckDuckGo used to set a tracking cookie, even though they claimed they didn't. This was done by a third party they cooperate with, which means that it wasn't necessarily intentional, but if it's unintentional, it shows a worrying lack of care.[3]

>used to

>unintentional

pro tip: don't use ddg when you time travel

>DuckDuckGo is based in the US. This makes it really easy for the NSA to compromise it. If it were based in the EU, for example, the NSA wouldn't have the legal power to force them to log everything without telling anyone. This wouldn't guarantee privacy, but it would make it a lot more plausible. Instead, they're based in the US, which means that the NSA can do whatever they want with them. There are secure search engines that are not based in the US.[3]

>that's right goyim, always use services from germany, that will surely protect your data.

The cock.li guy tried this tactic. Ask him how well it worked out.

>>994783

>everything else claiming privacy is uncomfortable or lying

>that's right, ddg might be lying about protecting your privacy

>nevermind that they let you use it through tor

I'm not a ddg shill I swear, but you niggers have such shitty arguments against it that I start to question who's paying you. The only reasonable argument against ddg would be that their search results are shit, and they seem pretty good to me.

>>994831

>I'm not a ddg shill I swear

>keyboard warrior attacking anti-ddg

> (-1)*(-1) = 1

>>994754

>Searx is a piece of shit not giving good results.

Maybe you don't know how to use a search engine.

Qwant?

>>994738 (OP)

John, you didn't paste the duckduckgo script directly. Report to my office.

>>994738 (OP)

This. There is a funny anti Jew cartoon that I was trying to find, and it is like it was shoa'd from the internet. Used to be easy to find on Google. I have to save everything now!

>>994738 (OP)

>Google is now messing so much with the search results that it has become unusable.

Welcome to 2013.

gibiru, searx, startpage, everything else is pozzed including DDG. if you don't know why, fuck you, I'm not your mom. Find out for yourself

searx & startpage use google licensed dataset - so if the unseen condom between your search and the dataset breaks your dick is still getting google STDs.

There are enough of you cuckchan niggers here to go make something of >>>/g/ and leave us in peace to discuss actual tech matters. The fact you lazy OPSEC-less niggers think this is a legitimate tech issue for a thread is part of the problem

>>994749

>feels like I'm on /g/

Looks like the ni/g/gers came here.

lite.qwant.com

I like searx. Here's the instance list. Pick one or run an own instance:

https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances

>>994788

>searx.me

.me is down all the time, slow and blocks you pretty fast if you do "too many" searches.

Other instances are better.

>>994854

>searx & startpage use google licensed dataset

Searx does what? Searx is a Metasearchengine. It uses results of other search engines. You can set which ones to include yourself in the preferences menu.

Startpage however is just a google proxy.

Go backt to >>>/g/

>>994754

Pretty much. Even if in 90% of the cases the alternative search engines give me correct results, they still don't have the functionality of Google: can't search by date, by language, by last modified date, etc.

I guess I'll take shitty results over curated, purposely obfuscated results. Even google images is completely fucked up. They link pages to the image now, instead of giving you a direct link to the image, and for some reason most of the results are always from pinterest.

>>994738 (OP)

It has gotten noticeably worse lately. Image search has been broken for a while.

>>994831

You're glowing like crazy.

libgen.io if you want some useful compsci papers, make sure you uncheck the google scholar redirect checkbox.

>>995242

I using http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

>>994738 (OP)

Back them you'd have website that had links to other known/trusted websites.

Maybe it'll be interesting to go back to this? Knowing that in another thread, someone was asking if anon has a website.

>Google is now messing so much with the search results that it has become unusable.

Google was only usable for the first year or so, maybe 2003 max. It had appeal compared to whatever shit like Microsoft's and Yahoo's searches because there was less malware and bloat all over the page. Then they started making it friendly for consumers which means if you try to look up _any_ information ever, it goes to a few shitty monetized blogs that don't even provide the answer, but instead a standard hand wavy consumer answer.

>>994883

The linking thing is due to some recent copyright law ruling.

I fucking hate pinterest. One of the worst content farms polluting my search results.

One thing google used to be good for was allowing you to blacklist domains, so you could exclude unwanted content farm bullshit from your search results.

Nothing like that is naturally available anymore.

>>995339

This.

When google started it was CLEAN, none of that portal horseshit you still see on MSN and Yahoo. Fuck that I want to search, not see news or huge adds.

That and how Altavista just didn't update their database for a few months because why do that?

When you search "map of US" in images on searx.me, you get mostly maps of US, and then one picture is a picture of some girl's tits. This is normal and how search engines should work. They have false positives because they're based on simple string lookups. Google, better than you nigger, on the other hand, will try to be smart and use some AI or some bullshit to get you real results. As a result, they mistakenly filter out a million images, and you get no good search results, because they are all filtered out, instead of the one or two false positives you would get normally. Now as for a SFW search, this can easily be solved by a decentralized web of trust for classifying stuff as NSFW (and banning abussers who misclassify).

>>994774

Oh, I get it.

You are butthurt because reality actually doesn't comply with your feelings kek.

Typical image board dweller in current year.

>>995367

you have to go back you regressive authoritarian scumbag piece of shit

>>994774

Don't forget pretty much anything pushed to screw people over (e.g. GMOs, the cloud, copyright, patents) is mostly filled with PR pieces or controlled opposition (e.g. "I think life+70 years of copyright makes no sense but authors need to make money" (when in fact copyright was never meant to be a means of sustenance)). You need to really go out of your way and search for specific phrases that would expose the underlying kikery; phrases news outlets wouldn't want to touch with a 10-foot stick (e.g. orphan works, tragedy of the anti-commons) if you intend to get at least minimally usable results.

>>995386

very true

Google (no login, no personalized results, autodelete cookies/all data/incognito mode) through TOR in a Vbox running through a host that has a VPN and/or TOR.

>>994754

ignore this faggot, searx pulls the same results as google without the botnet

>>995363

>image search for water on searx

>50% of results are porn with occasional cp

>"this is how a search engine should be"

Okay karl rove

If google is obfuscating relevant results via searx (and they are), bing is straight up trying to kill.

These are real search strings and the results from them:

holy trinity strength starr = horny whores

www.reddit.com/r/buddhism = life at conception

hip crevice squat hands = porn stories, naruto, homeopathy

traps make the man starr - shemale, power girl, Pretty Lil' Fuck Bunny Gets His Dick Sounded and His Ass Fucked by Goddess Cherie Deville, clubbutts lounge

"hall of fades"- hope fades (daily mail), baker mayfield now dating this blonde, jersey boys

"buddhist [city]" - homosexuality in [city]

wrist straps velcro lifting -wraps =  degenerative myelopathy dogs

interior crocodile alligator = fags hot women wallet

image magic school carlos = ms13 tales of the demon

maltin reddit ama = Taxi Driver wikipedia

tight tan slacks gap bicep routine = [not even gonna]

>>994854

Hi /g/, enjoying your stay?

holy shit startpage just changed their website

>>994738 (OP)

I know what you mean op.

Most of the internet these days seems to be just one giant echo champer.

Last time i used a search engine to find information was when i knew 100% that it wasn't controversial, it sucks that i can no longer find any real worthwhile info like i used to.

This goes for pretty much every search engine, not just google.

I tried startpage and searx for doing my basic list of searches that i used to do when looking for things and i got the exact same shit on all of them.

Google holds a monopoly over even other search engines and sinse google is so large most of them just follow, like previously mentioned ddg and qwant.

Search engines, especially clearnet shit is the worst for finding what should be public information, they all like to bury the good shit and float usless trendy trash on the top.

>>994738 (OP)

I use wiby.me for fun just to see what shows up. Everything else is shit, though.

>>998744

Still censored, and money will still decide what you see. Nothing can make Google good. It's inherently broken.

>>998783

If you don't want to see naked people enable safe search. Unsafe search means that FBIkun could show up since you loaded cp over http.

>>998783

Searx is a metasearch engine, you imbecile.

>>994738 (OP)

worst thing about google is that you find results from forbes, nyt, etc that are just the shit rewrite of articles from great indipendent blogs. Blogs that get pushed completely out of search results, while they would've been on the first page years ago.

I basically use Google just to answer objective or programming related questions. I also hope they all die while suffering a lot, seriously, this is not like a company not having the means or not keeping up, this is a company willingly worsening their service for political reasons.

>>994754

This, but instead of asking questions I use an archive of imageboards like 4plebs, warosu, etc.

>>994750

Where is the evidence for your claims?

>>995316

>>995317

>opinion

Can't you read ? or even make simple observations ?

>expert

Qwant:

Proprietary Software is owned by one entity in EU governed laws.

It is google but European version.

It's working model is centralized.

https://about.qwant.com/legal/terms-of-service/qwant-search/

https://about.qwant.com/legal/privacy/

Yippy:

Proprietary Software is owned by one entity in US governed laws.

It's working model is centralized.

http://yippy.com/tos.html

http://yippy.com/privacy-policy.html

Ecosia:

Proprietary Software is owned by one entity in EU governed laws.

It's working model is centralized.

https://info.ecosia.org/privacy

YaCy:

Free/libre software, laws are applicable only the the hardware where it's installed (aka a clusterfuck for jurisdiction).

Basically the solution we need, could be even better when it's activated in SearX.

Imo it should need to be rewritten in a portable language to work on small SoC.

>>994752

been using searx for more than a year

so there are few instance like

>searx.ch

>searx.org

>searx.me

They can grab url from few common search engine but it is not as stable(1) as a proper search engine.

You can start your own instance but in order to remain ""anonimouz"", you need others to use it.

So the data flow do not get focus on you.

(1) at some point specific search engine disappear from the list of result and randomly reappear after a while.

The same request wont give the same answer, can be bothering but I got use to it.

If you are not ready for this kind of stuff, you can use startpage which I think is fine.

>>999001

100% agree on this, actually there are some rumor that qwant is linked with the DGSE/I

which are the french secret service...

>>998996

here it comes the (((You)))

doesnt the ""(dot)com"" ring a bell at some point ?

>>994866

>Searx is a Metasearchengine.

>Meta-searchengine

congratulations on admitting I'm correct faggot.

>>999011

> some rumor that qwant is linked with the DGSE

really? Did you not check it out, and the ((​(coincidental))) laws in France regarding digital data that appeared around the same time. It's pozzed as fuck.

>>999011

>qwant is linked with the DGSE/I

France is literally smoll USA, if not worse, last year (just before the elections) part of the Tor nods were raided and admins are now under speech restriction. Why do you think there's only one TorGuard in France ?

Anykind of entity who can control data on french territory is under french jurisdiction thus it's going to be approached by powerful fags.

>>994788

What are some good search engines to enable in the searx preferences?

>>999001

>YaCy

I like the idea but I believe it would be extremely hard to get the project to support phrases (exact string matching) which makes it a non-starter for most queries I make on search engines. I also never understood how to work with its sorting. Or perhaps the project has gotten better in the past few years and I need to try it again and RTFM?

unironically found more of the things i was looking for on wiby.me than on web crawler-based (((search engines)))

Have you tried using dorks?

>>994738 (OP)

Qwant