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For over 30 years, we’ve thought of PCs primarily as Windows machines, which we owned and controlled. That’s about to change forever.
This isn’t about Microsoft forcing us off Windows 7 to Windows 10 as fast as it can (though it has found many ways to push that agenda). This is about Microsoft abandoning the Windows platform as a conventional desktop.
Microsoft is getting ready to replace Windows 10 with the Microsoft Managed Desktop. This will be a “desktop-as-a-service” (DaaS) offering. Instead of owning Windows, you’ll “rent” it by the month.
DaaS for Windows isn’t new. Citrix and VMware have made a living from it for years. Microsoft has offered Remote Desktop Services, formerly Terminal Services, for ages.
Microsoft Managed Desktop is a new take. It avoids the latency problem of the older Windows DaaS offerings by keeping the bulk of the operating system on your PC.
But you’ll no longer be in charge of your Windows PC. Instead, it will be automatically provisioned and patched for you by Microsoft. Maybe you’ll be OK with that.
Unless you’ve been under a rock, you know IT departments have not been happy with Microsoft’s twice yearly major “upgrades” to Windows 10. Let’s call it what it is. These aren’t upgrades or updates; they’re service patches (SP).
Take the Windows 10 April 2018 Update --- please! It came with more than its fair share of bugs. What was especially annoying was that “Update” fouled up so many of Microsoft’s own programs. When even Word, Outlook and File Explorer lock up, you know you’ve got a mess on your hands.
Computerworld’s Woody Leonhard even recommended that, unless you were stuck with the April Update, you turn off automatic updating. He’s right to do so. Windows patching was always chancy, but with Windows 10 you’re more likely to have trouble when you patch than you are to avoid problems. And isn’t that a heck of a note?
So, with this track record, do you want to pay good money to let Microsoft maintain your desktops for you? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
Nonetheless, DaaS Windows is coming. Microsoft has been getting away from the old-style desktop model for years now. Just look at Office. Microsoft would much rather have you rent Office via Office 365 than buy Microsoft Office and use it for years.Microsoft Managed Desktop is the first move to replacing “your” desktop with a rented desktop. By 2021, I expect the Managed Desktop to be to traditional Windows what Office 365 is to Office today: the wave of the future. Or maybe tsunami, depending on your perspective.
I’m not happy with this development. I’m old enough to remember the PC revolution. We went from depending on mainframes and Unix boxes for computing power to having the real power on our desktops. It was liberating.
Now Microsoft, which helped lead that revolution, is trying to return us to that old, centralized control model.
Forget that noise. If Microsoft continues on this course, soon your only real choices if you really want a “desktop” operating system will be Linux and macOS. Oh, you’ll still have “Windows.” But Windows as your “personal” desktop? It will be history.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html
▶ No.949409>>949721 >>949744 >>950945
finally: windows for niggers
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▶ No.949498>>949852 >>950289
It's simple: Install GNU/Linux
▶ No.949499>>949575 >>949579
This news hasn't been confirmed by Microsoft yet and is speculation from recent job postings
>A few days ago, Microsoft posted several new open positions that highlight that the company is gearing up to launch a Managed Desktop service or MMD. The job description states “Microsoft 365 Managed Desktop (MMD) is a new, per-user subscription service that enables customers with devices that can take advantage of the latest productivity tools and technologies (Device as a Service) in a secure, monitored, and supported IT environment (IT as a Service).”
>The posting goes on to state that those who are hired for this role will use their learnings to “influence the Go to market strategy of this new and exciting service”.
>As of the time of this posting, this position is only showing up for positions in the United States as well as the United Kingdom. If this pilot program, as I’m told, is a success, fully expect it to roll-out to other regions in the near future.
https://www.petri.com/wheres-microsoft-365-headed-next-managed-desktop
I can see this going very well for them if they offered deep rebates to OEMs. When people buy cellphones they pay very little upfront and get stuck on a plan so why couldn't the same apply to laptops and computers? They can easily be locked down thanks to the UEFI and don't forget that it wasn't too long ago that Lenovo prevented Linux from running on their computers saying "This system has a Signature Edition of Windows 10 Home installed. It is locked per our agreement with Microsoft.".
▶ No.949501>>949515 >>949549 >>949575
HOW
MANY
TIMES
DID
I
WARN
YOU
STUPID
NIGGERS
ABOUT
THIS
SHIT
never forget this is the future you chose and deserve
▶ No.949515>>949575
>>949501
RMS was right. Computer users are seeing ownership move from them to faceless corporations for an increase in "security"
▶ No.949516>>949565 >>949575 >>949704 >>950141 >>950961 >>951261
This may be the perfect time to teach your normie friends about alternatives.
▶ No.949549
>>949501
>Microsoft killing itself
>somehow this is bad
I don't see the problem just install Gentoo
▶ No.949552>>949564 >>949575 >>949833
The depressing thing is that we all know The Linux Desktop Community will once again find a way to squander this opportunity and nothing will change. Computing fucking sucks.
▶ No.949564>>949575 >>949584 >>950291
>>949552
no let the npcs get assfucked by windows its the natural way of things youre like the small percent in the matrix who choose to reject the programming a natural and essential byproduct of the system. if the npcs were to move to linux linux would become nonfree software. im sure a simple graph has been made showing the correlation between amount of normies using a distro and the amount of poz in the system.
▶ No.949565>>949575
>>949516
They'll probably say something about "muh iTunes" and buy a Mac.
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>>949439
>>949499
>>949501
>>949515
>>949552
>>949565
Everyone has finally swallowed the truth. They fucking won. It's over for us.
>>949516
>>949564
>>949427
>>949488
How does it feel knowing that there is nothing we can do to fight back against this? The blackpill has been swallowed by all of us, and we can never return from it.
▶ No.949576>>949577 >>949585
>>949575
>just roll over and die goyim
▶ No.949577>>949580
>>949576
What else is there to do? One glance at the somber tone of the posters ITT will immediately tell you that there is no escape from this. They have finally claimed victory against freedom.
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>>949577
More importantly, if the answer is rolling over and dying why haven't you done it yet?
▶ No.949584>>949747 >>949852
>>949564
This. Recall the modest poz of the popular distros. Now imagine 99.99% of the users are normie retards who can't use a command line and like being data mined "for an improved experience". Linux will just become a shittier MacOS and you'll have to keep moving to more and more obscure distros to get away from it. Just like white flight, and with many of the same people.
▶ No.949585
>>949576
He should take his own advice.
▶ No.949595
>>949575
Why should we fight back against this? First it's only going to start in 2020 when Windows 7 reaches end of life and fuck anyone who's still using W10 by then. Second this is initially intended to be sold towards businesses and government institutions that are already stuck in the Windows ecosystem.
Even if they move to a DaaS model for consumers in 2025 by then what will Windows have? Most of the software on it is already becoming SaaS based. Being pessimistic about this doesn't make any sense at all.
▶ No.949610>>950059
Who fucking cares? Unless you're a Windows user (which you really fucking shouldn't be) than this is meaningless. If anything, it could help undo the damage normalfags have caused to computing in the last few decades.
▶ No.949615>>949664 >>949852
>>949400 (OP)
>normies getting swindled out of their money because they refuse to leave their comfort zone and learn to use better tools
This is great, I can't wait to show off to my normie acquaintances about how I use a Linux based operating system and do not have to pay a fee or whatever.
▶ No.949658
Forcing enterprise DaaS after the disaster that is Windows 10
ahahaha
please do, drive more people to Linux, thx
▶ No.949664
>>949615
I would too, if I had any.
▶ No.949688>>949696 >>950782
>>949575
>the black pill has been swallowed
Always knew cucks love to swallow black things.
▶ No.949689>>949852 >>949867
Norms already love Android and iOS. If Microsoft really wants to push this on consumers --idk, maybe, maybe not--, then it really won't make any difference to anyone here in regard to linux. Normans aren't gonna flock to linux en masse, they're gonna flock to Android and Apple. Most consumers these days don't even have a PC anymore unless it's for work or school. They all have a phone, so they don't need one. The rise of Windows DaaS will only see the rise of the Android PC and the Chromebook and Apple in market share. Android is already exactly what you all fear linux becoming. Proprietary, locked down, you don't really own it or the device, device-as-a-service in that most people replace their phone as soon as they're done paying for it if not sooner. The only difference is that Android isn't popular on PCs. Even a lot of SBCs run Android.
If Microsoft really wants to drive all their consumer base to Android, good for them. People will drop Office for Google Docs. Android Just Werks even better than Windows ever did. It's easier to use for nearly everyone, and it even lets them paw at the screen. TVs already run it, phones run it, tablets run it, IoT devices run it.
I shall wait for that day, and laugh when it comes.
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>>949516
does FreeSync work in GNU/Linux yet?
how is the performance of vidya?
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>>949409
>Windows
>Not for niggers
▶ No.949725>>949727
>>949400 (OP)
Nah. Microsoft doesn't have the balls to implement this without having regular Windows continue. This will be just like them trying to enforce 'Games for Window Live', 'Microsoft Store", 'Edge' and that stupid Xbox gaming sub...and it will all fail to gain enough traction to kill regular Windows. Like as if any 3rd world country would pay monthly for Windows...or anyone with a brain for that matter.
▶ No.949726>>949860 >>950229
>>949720
Windows 10 S(now called S mode) is old news and entirely different from DaaS. You're only allowed to run 'apps' from the Windows Store and it uses encryption so if your account gets banned you lose all access to the files on the computer.
It's an optional mode you can switch off. It's intended for morons who can't use a computer as shown by this promotional photograph from Microsoft for it. The original idea was to sell computers with it and charge $50 to unlock it but they've dropped it.
▶ No.949727>>949732
>>949725
>Like as if any 3rd world country would pay monthly for Windows...or anyone with a brain for that matter.
You would be surprised...
Netflix wouldn't have anywhere near the number of subscribers if the only option you had was for a 4 year license. Lots of people pirate Windows because they see the price tag and decide they can't afford it, but give them the option of paying $5 a month for it and they will go for it.
▶ No.949732
>>949727
>You would be surprised...
Nope. They tried it with handouts and they tried it with fear..didn't work. China, Russia, South America, Eastern Europe, anyone at the poverty line and anyone who uses their brain will never fall for that scheme.
>Netflix
Just another example how the copyright Jews are destroying creativity and capitalism itself. Those copyright fees are so high that not even a giant like Netflix can afford them...why do you think they are loosing costumers? Of course normies gonna norm and stick to his subscription like a good slave, but everyone else sees a service that has less and less to offer.
▶ No.949733
Makes sense. Since CPUs aren't getting faster people will want to connect to the cloud for everything.
▶ No.949744>>951178
>>949409
Windows has always been for niggers.
▶ No.949746
>>949575
I bet you're running Windows 10 and so yeah, you're fucked.
▶ No.949747>>949798
>>949584
"Linux" is just a kernel, moron.
▶ No.949750>>949812 >>949856 >>950051
>>949400 (OP)
>DaaS
As long as the option for a full local install is still available, I don't mind. There are certain types of users who could benefit from a fully-managed O/S, such as boomers who buy single PCI-slot machines from big box stores. But for workstation-tier and higher, I demand a fully-local O/S.
▶ No.949757
Now LeTrayvon can pay the equivalent of only 2 KFC buckets per month to use "his" pooter for Faceberg posting. Way to go, Microsoft!
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>>949747
The fact that you assume I don't already know this reveals you're the moron.
▶ No.949811
>>949400 (OP)
"We've hit a wall with our desktop paradigm. What should be do?"
"...Put it in the cloud?"
"BRILLIANT, PAJEET!"
▶ No.949812
>>949750
Microsoft is so bad at optimizing software they have to run everything on dedicated high power servers.
▶ No.949831>>950924
>>949427
>paragraphs is reddit spacing
Start banning you derailing niggers
This
Is
Reddit spacing.
▶ No.949833
>>949552
Let's crowdfund Poettering's assassination before that happens.
▶ No.949852>>950139
>>949584
>>949498
>>949615
Only white people will use some type of linux distro
The datamining will mostly happen to niggers and leftypol faggots
I had Ubuntu - I don't know - 12? 13? installed on a slow desktop computer for my wife and she didn't like it.
That was before SSDs
I have 3 laptops right now with SSDs running a linux distro
they are blazing.
SSDs are getting cheaper - slowly though
BUY UP LAPTOPS AND DESKTOPS AT PAWN SHOPS
I wouldn't worry too much about the Intel ME though because by the time all this happens we will have some type of fix for either bypassing or destroying the ME.
Just thinking about having the Intel ME (or AMD Version of that) coupled with the Managed Operating System is just cray cray dystopia 1984....
>>949689
> it even lets them paw at the screen
MY SIDES
But seriously - I think everyone that uses the piss-poor argument of, "Well, if I'm not doing anything wrong, why should I care about privacy?" will be okay with this...
...until it affects them.
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>>949427
Hey asshole I just
wanted to let you
know that this is
copypasta reddit
spacing. Got it?
▶ No.949856>>950051
>>949750
>boomers who buy single PCI-slot machines from big box stores
Anon, there are faggots who buy two PCIe slot machines on this very board: >>907223
▶ No.949860
>>949726
no its how DaaS will look like once it completely takes over
this is the future you chose
▶ No.949867
>>949689
Yeah absolute normalfags who only use their PC for social/work/school are already dead. The only demo I care about is the decent PC gamers who are too addicted to break free and will keep giving Windows legitimacy when it should be nothing but the drone OS.
▶ No.949875
I love how the same threads appear here and on cuck /g/. The discussion here is better and there are fewer bots, though.
▶ No.949880>>949898 >>950222
Do you know why we can buy PC parts and assemble a desktop PC?
It's because there are people who still buy those parts to build their gamming and/or working machines and for all of them PCs and Windows are synonymous, one and the same thing.
If microsoft kill windows with this shit they'll also kill desktop PCs as a consequence. People will just abandon the whole platform altogether and we won't be able to build a PC to install GNU/Linux anymore because there won't be an incentive for manufacturers to make PC parts anymore since the platform will be dead and/or the prices of PC hardware will skyrocket.
This is very bad news, there will be no escape from the botnet.
▶ No.949886>>949890 >>949922 >>949976
>microshit somehow manages to become even worse
>eventually gamers the world over realize its over
>linux suddenly able to play all games
guys
GUYS
could this be
finally
THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
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>>949575
>>949886
/v/ and most gamers I know have some interest in Linux and hate anything Microsoft post-Windows 7. The only thing holding them back is Wine compatibility and that's quickly becoming less of an issue with DXVK.
Even if we don't get the "muh iTunes" market, we'll probably gain the vidya market if DaaS Windows becomes the norm.
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>>949880
So then gaymers will just buy fucking servers instead and use them as a desktop.
▶ No.949899>>949914 >>949976
>>949890
Imagine, a world where linux plays all the vidya you want
▶ No.949914>>949976
>>949899
It's pretty fucking close to that ideal. I don't have any need for my Windows 7 partition anymore and RPCS3 is well on its way to running all my PS3 vidya.
▶ No.949922>>949961
>>949886
>sometime around CY+7
>Poos happily poo RISC-V SBCs to gain independence from western plumbing infrastructure while Intel crashes with no survivors, making AMD the largest x86 botnet provider in its place
>Wangblows 10 Cloud Edition fully replaces W10 home, is enforced via UEFI on 95% of new consumer laptops and desktop thin clients, with traditional x86 hardware being phased out of production
>Poos shit out a 12 core 4Ghz RISC-V desktop CPooU with no botnet and fully flashable firmware as they are too dirty to write proper microcode for such a chip entirely by themselves and thus have to rely on either expensive higher caste poogrammers or freely available western freetards
>Linux market share rises from 1% to 6% in less than a year
>Year of the Poo/Linux Desktop
▶ No.949961>>949962
>>949922
Your Dubs, sir.
I have two Raspberry Poos, and they aren't that bad. srsly.
What I would like to see though, is a faster chipset and more RAM.
I mean, 1/2 gig of Ram? Plz...
▶ No.949962
>>949961
>I mean, 1/2 gig of Ram? Plz...
oops - I mean 1 GB ram....
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>>949886
>>949890
>>949899
>>949914
>playing proprietary games
If RMS was right for the botnet he's also right for this
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html
The probleme isn't if we get games or not it's about the people that will push to have functionalities on gnu/linux.
What are they going to push ? The shinny big marketed desktop video recorder ? or the independent dev who's making the same software under GPLv3 ?
Gaming communities are the most cancerous of all communities, they do not understand, they not want to understand, all that matters is that they get what they want. And what they want does not go in the interest of software freedom.
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>>949400 (OP)
>Take the Windows 10 April 2018 Update --- please! It came with more than its fair share of bugs. What was especially annoying was that “Update” fouled up so many of Microsoft’s own programs. When even Word, Outlook and File Explorer lock up, you know you’ve got a mess on your hands.
You know what's odd - This update won't install on my Windows computer unless I COMPLETELY uninstall symantec
I get the same update message every time I turn that damn thing on.
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>>949976
I like to see games as something that I can make an exception for. The reason is that we don't use computer games to achieve practical problems unlike the vast majority of other software. I have an Xbox One with all its DRM and telemetry and soft copies of game as a gaming machine. I have a laptop and a desktop which are Lignux machines with the minimum of proprietary software.
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>>949981
That's probably more a symantec problem than anything else. SAV is a special kind of awful.
▶ No.949994>>950007 >>950208
I thought this was a joke but fuck it's real. Looks like I've got a good reason to move other people over to Linux! Curious how it'll affect businesses though
▶ No.950007
>>949994
Businesses don't care because they're happy with their computing infrastructure being managed by other companies.
▶ No.950010
>>949400 (OP)
>read article
>MMD is specifically about leasing entire systems as a service, not windows as a service
>nobody actually understands this and /tech/ spergs the fuck out thinking it's windows as service
Heh.
▶ No.950011>>950021 >>950190 >>950763
>>949976
Nigger, video games aren't like other software you can swap out at will. You might as well tell someone to throw out all non-public domain or Creative Commons literature/film/music/artwork and substitute them with permissively-licensed blogposts/webms/podcasts/dA fanart.
Is proprietary vidya ideal? Not remotely, but it's also responsible for many Mesa improvements which greatly benefit existing FOSS games and the Linux desktop experience in general. This paves the way for future FOSS vidya, and if some of it is commercially successful enough it may inspire the notoriously slow vidya industry to finally see the value of free software.
▶ No.950012>>950764
>>949981
>running multiple conflicting layers of antivirus software
Brain problems?
▶ No.950021
>>950011
<I-its okay if its video games
No. Just find libre games that you like and play those.
▶ No.950032>>950975
>>949400 (OP)
Making a 4D chess move to destroy yourself?
Companies have gotten so greedy and so closed to their own politics that many are going to a direct crash while being proud about it
Just by the finances, who the fuck would go by this?
< (((Goberment agencies))) and (((international companies?))) the last one MAAYBE because they also want to spend less whenever possible
They leech taxes but they cant remain that large just with that
This non post apocalyptic time is really weird
▶ No.950040>>950042
>>949400 (OP)
>...which we owned and controlled.
>Instead of owning Windows, you’ll “rent” it...
>...you’ll no longer be in charge of your Windows PC.
Whoever wrote this is delusional.
▶ No.950042
>>950040
Whoever wrote the article doesn't understand EULAs and free software. Users are forbidden to own proprietary software.
▶ No.950051
>>949856
The TalosII has 5 PCIe slots, unless you are talking about the single socket Lite version which I don't think anyone on /tech/ has purchased yet.
>>949750
>As long as the option for a full local install is still available, I don't mind.
Anon, I have bad news...
>single PCI-slot machines
If all you need to run is a GPU then mini-ITX mobos are great.
▶ No.950059>>950079
>>949610
Boy, I sure hope you don't have a career where this is used.
▶ No.950079
>>950059
Why should I care? Microsoft is going to take care of everything for me.
▶ No.950082>>950094 >>950116 >>950170 >>950215
I don't really get not making game engines FOSS. You can keep the art assets nonfree (which is fine as far as Stallman is concerned, since he doesn't argue art is a tool, and the same four fundamental freedoms should necessarily apply) and use the same marketing model as always. You could even make the assets free and charge for compilation, which your average person won't do, and the same people who know about The Pirate Bay and still don't pirate their games for one reason or the other (maybe they don't want to risk virtual AIDS, maybe they want to support the devs, whatever), or even charge for the license to access your official serversif your game is a multiplayer game, which is a really logical thing to do because they better pay for it if they want to put a strain on your resources. Point is, the business model for FOSS and non-FOSS games is the same, and the only thing preventing libre vidya is the "muh autistic vision" meme, and the "it's MY CODE and I don't want anyone looking at it" meme that permeates corporate culture so much. The barrier against FOSS seems to be merely psychological, and that saddens me deeply.
That, and the fact that many multiplayer games are so badly designed, they trust the client so much that allowing easy tampering with it would make multiplayer a hackfest, but people already do it with or without shitty kernel level botnet anticheat systems, so whatever. Just hire a decent security guy to design the MP protocol, they are not that expensive
▶ No.950083
Security my ass. Problems will just be of a different nature.
All of this because companies want to reduce the maintenance and update costs and hires. Also, they want your data and info on their storage.
But who cares really? It's a corporations game, the user has the choice to remain distant from all of it. FUCK WINDOWS and FUCK MICROSOFT. This shit won't last, it's doomed. Nothing as shitty as Windows will last whatever business model or marketing efforts they put into it. Fear propaganda.
There are far better alternatives, at worst we will end up with TempleOS and from a certain point of view it's far better for at least it is didactical.
▶ No.950094
>>950082
People only understand the way of proprietary software. The vast majority of people don't even know about a movement called the free software movement. Perhaps they might have heard of open source software but they also tend to think that people make no money with open source.
▶ No.950116>>950129 >>950171 >>950605
>>950082
>I don't really get not making game engines FOSS. You can keep the art assets nonfree and use the same marketing model as always
b-but then people will just create their own art assets and distribute those for people who just compiled muh engine and I won't see a penny and die in poverty while everybody plays muh game for free.
▶ No.950129
>>950116
If people won't buy your game because someone else made a good standalone mod for it, they wouldn't buy your game in the first place either. The solution is to make better games.
▶ No.950136
>>949400 (OP)
You were warned, but you chose not to listen. This is the future you chose.
▶ No.950139>>950164
>>949852
>Only white people will use some type of linux distro
Mexican here. We've been using GNU/Linux for years because it's free. And if you didn't install slackware, you're still a fucking faggot.
▶ No.950141>>950142 >>950164
>>949516
We need to develop a sales pitch for Linux, informing normalfags about the alternatives to Office and other garbage that they might still use.
>"On Linux you have the Chrome browser, a powerful browser built by Google, that will let you you access Facebook and Twitter at blazing fast speed!"
>"You'll also have access to Google Docs, Google's powerful new text editor that is the latest replacement for Microsoft's slow and buggy Word program"
Excuse me for shilling Google products, but I think it's the best approach. Mozilla is completely pozzed now, after all.
▶ No.950142>>950163
>>950141
>Chrome browser
That's not how you spell chromium.
▶ No.950157
>Windows admin day job
>Watched M$ go from greedy corporate fucks in the 90s to full blown NWO sandcurry importers today
>somehow figure out a way to shit on their customers harder than ever
>force everyone to the new shit show
>start fleecing the goyim monthly
Windows users get what they deserve. I've already moved the home laptop to Linux to get the family acquainted, and slowly introduce the idea of "consoles/Linux gaming only". WINE sure does make that an easier spoonful of medicine to get down. Eventually there will be no Windows gaming in my household, probably within the next 12 months or so.
▶ No.950163
>>950142
That's not how you spell Brave
▶ No.950164>>950169 >>950185
>>950139
Some Mexicans are white and have no Mesoamerican ancestry. You must be one of those.
>>950141
>curing people of MicrosoftAIDS
>by giving them GoogleAIDS
Hey, did you know that you can cure someone's headache by decapitating them? It's cheap, quick, and works 100% of the time.
▶ No.950169
>>950164
>Some Mexicans are white and have no Mesoamerican ancestry. You must be one of those.
I'm pretty fucking brown, m8. I just happened to be bad at sports and drug running, so I had to actually learn shit.
▶ No.950170>>950173 >>950188
I wouldn't worry too much about getting the PC gaming community to switch as a week ago the biggest gaming/technology channel did a video on getting games to work on Linux through either Wine or a VM. Given time Microsoft will keep introducing so much cruft that slows it down or ruins the experience that gaming on Linux will become the best way to do it. No sales pitch needed.
>>950082
One of the major FLOSS game engines was killed off earlier this year thanks to a lack of interest from developers and users. Since 2.8 Blender doesn't include the game engine.
If you're talking about purely commercial engines there's Panda3d that's BSD licensed and a lot of other game engines like Unreal and Lumberyard(based on CryEngine) are shared source. They've stopped giving out IdTech engines but the latest ones aren't that great either.
▶ No.950171>>951326
>>950116
There are two issues to this:
1) Sufficiently dedicated autists can produce some decent looking assets... in time. A moderately big game with many assets will probably take years of dedicated autism to produce a full good looking replacement, and even then, chances are it does not look as good as the original thing. Considering the majority of sales of a game are done during its first months (in the case of AAA, the first week) I would say this is a non-issue.
Exception: Minecraft has better looking unofficial texture packs. People still pay for Minecraft, if only for the online license, or not to deal with shitty unreliable unofficial launchers.
2) If they churn out a shitty asset replacement in less than a week with Thomas Was Alone tier graphics, nobody will want to play that, unless the original game was already like that, in which case you probably deserve selling zero copies.
Anyway, look the absolute state of libre art assets in OpenGameArt. It has some gems, like Tetine Elfe (pic related), but generally speaking, it is sub-PS1 era graphics, or "my first Blender project". No absolute madman wants to produce shareable art anymore for free because the last decade has only produced insufferable "muh intellectual property doughnut steel" tumblr millenials who put restrictive licenses in comissions (yes, you paid for that; no, all you can do with it is downloading it and masturbating to it in silence, and if you ever repost it, I am going to crush you). Nobody does it for exposure, or for the enjoyment of everyone else, or for the sake of art anymore. Long gone are the days of unlikely motley teams of people on the internet joining to make something fun, specially in art. You would be surprised how strong the mob mentality in the artist communities of tumblr, dA and Twitter is, and they all try to hunt down those who work for free, or work for cheap. The only people who still work for free are those autists who eventually get their projects taken down because all they can think of is making Nintendo fangames.
tl;dr shit's fucked and nobody will make replacement assets for your game. You can sleep at night.
▶ No.950173>>950196
>>950170
Maybe engine wasn't the best choice of words, but I was including game scripts in it. Anyway, many commercial games built using libre engines have heavy modifications done to the engine (not because the engines are not good enough, because it still happens with big multimillion proprietary engines), and if we don't get the actual gameplay scripts, we may as well have the same as if the engine itself was proprietary: nothing at all.
▶ No.950185
>>950164
in this instance it's more like curing the decapitation with a headache
internal AIDS is worse than external AIDS
▶ No.950190
>>950011
>aren't like other software you can swap out at wil
Just watch me.
> and substitute them with permissively-licensed blogposts/webms/podcasts/dA fanart.
>permissively-licensed
>permissively
I'm not a commie.
> for many Mesa improvements
I won't spit on improvements but how much of them are licensed under GPLv3 ?
>to finally see the value of free software.
>the value of free software.
They already see it and the only thing they see is that it's gratis. They do not care and only use it as a selling point to people who don't know nor understand the words source code, compiler and binary.
The end point is to sell garbage that just works to people who are hyped end of story and the finality of this is SteamOs.
▶ No.950196>>950207 >>950981
>>950173
With DLC and microtransactions nowadays game publishers have no good reason to provide that level of access until years after release. Most wouldn't be able to anyways thanks to all the proprietary tools they use for graphics, sound and physics within the engine. There's also the issue of a potential sequel or remake competing with your older product that's constantly being improved upon by the community.
>>950188
What about it? It's an engine built for making mobile games using OpenGL ES so it's not relevant to Windows PC gaming. Very easy to use without much technical skill and some anons on >>>/agdg/ are using it.
▶ No.950199>>950202
▶ No.950202>>950437
>>950199
Isn't this what faceberg, jewgle, microshekkels and apple already do? use the normie npcs to extract shekkels by spying and collecting their data.
▶ No.950204
Who gives a shit about winbloze lusers? If you're not running and contributing to Linux, you deserve everything that happens to you.
▶ No.950207
>>950196
>OpenGL ES
>not relevant to Windows PC gaming
Nigger, OpenGL ES 3 is just a slightly stripped down version of OpenGL 3.3 and some of Godot 3's visual features are designed with PCs in mind, like global illumination.
▶ No.950208
>>949994
>move people over to Linux
Kill yourself retard. Those lusers should be fleeced by Microsoft till they're nothing but bones. Why the fuck would you help someone who constantly disprespects you? Have some fucking self respect and don't be such a cuck.
▶ No.950212
>>949976
You are one of the reasons why Linux on desktop will never come.
"Fuck this incredibly popular use case backed by a gigantic industry and billions of users" might make you feel righteous, but it won't help your Os and force it to improve.
▶ No.950215>>950230 >>950326
>>950082
>I don't really get not making game engines FOSS.
Game engines are incredibly valuable, requiring enormous investments of money, time, and highly qualified work just to get to an usable prototype.
You think Bethesda is still using the same shitty engine for fun?
And that's the easy problem, the real issue is licensing: any moderately big engine is going to use tons of third party tools and libraries, good luck limiting yourself to those with permissive enough licensing.
>Point is, the business model for FOSS and non-FOSS games is the same
Imagine actually believing this.
Preorders, spyware DRM, DLC... all stuff that doesn't work so well with a FOSS game.
Shitty devs were already crying over Steam refunds because people would return their less then 2 hours non-games, and plenty more go out of their way to stop modding so they can squeeze a bit more money out of their title.
▶ No.950217>>950222 >>950959
>>949575
>everyone
>us
Who the fuck is this "us?" I doubt most of the posters on this board are running Windows. So the idiot normies are paying subscription for Windows, who cares?
You stick to your cucky Windows for your shitty games, who cares. The rest of us moved on a long time ago.
▶ No.950222>>950743
>>950217
>hurr it's just like wangblows users getting fucked lmao
How about you read the damn thread before posting shit >>949880
▶ No.950224
Anyone still using Wangblows deserve to get fucked by them.
▶ No.950229
>>949726
Is that picture real? Is that the future?
▶ No.950230>>950268 >>950416
>>950215
>Preorders
Yeah, what about it? Libre or not, you can preorder. The fun thing about preorders are that they are illogical and people still pay for them.
>Spyware
Kinda complicated to do that on a FOSS engine, yes.
>DRM
You mean "day 2 crack" DRM that stops nobody who would actually want to pirate the game? I sincerely doubt pirates really go "ugh, I will have to wait 24 HOURS to play this game for free! I will have to pay $60 now!".
>DLC
If the DLC includes assets then the business model is the same. If the "DLC" is just a flag patch to enable some content already there, you are just begging for it.
▶ No.950238>>950416
>>949400 (OP)
Is microsoft so stupid or just it's useds are so dumb to swallow that dick? Is there something other than gaymes that can stop normies switch to GNU/Linux?
>>949976
He's right. I found out that there are other operating systems, because website of proprietary game I used to play had download option for "linux". Simple curiosity pushed me to install it. Also I had wanted to create mods for that game (never did), so I started to learn programming. Now I'm following the path of freedom with GNU and free software. We must make sure new users will know why GNU was created and what is free software. The problem is most distributions call itself "linux" and "open source".
▶ No.950268
>>950230
>I sincerely doubt pirates really go "ugh, I will have to wait 24 HOURS to play this game for free! I will have to pay $60 now!".
This has actually happened to me before anon.
Jew marketing is a helluva drug.
▶ No.950289>>951361
>>949498
Thanks for the advice, now I can play all my favorite graphics intensive vidya flawlessly!
▶ No.950291
>>949564
this, full accelerationism, my boi
▶ No.950305>>950315
Normalfags will leave Windows, but they will not come to ganoo slash linucks. If they're cheap or already invested in an Android phone they'll get a Chromebook, and otherwise they'll get a Macbook. I go to a normalfag university and worked as a TA for a 100-level business class, at least 90% of the computers in there are macbooks and maybe 5% chromebooks, and when students came up to me with questions it was almost always about how to get stuff like MS Office running on macOS. I'd rather have them using at least some form of *nix over Windows, but it is clear that people are very comfortable with non-Linux Windows alternatives so it's unreasonable to expect this to affect Linux in any way.
The silver lining is that with Apple's retarded move against OpenGL in favor of Metal, it's unlikely that macOS becomes their platform of choice. Google could step up and try to make chromeOS a viable Gayming™ platform but given their consistent lack of competency so far I doubt they'll succeed. This means that Gaymers™ will have to put up with MS's bullshit and at least some of them will be fed up enough to move to Linux I moved during the shitstorms surrounding Windows 8 so surely it is possible.
▶ No.950315
>>950305
Whenever I advocate people to use Lignux, I teach them about the personal responsibility that is associated with freedom. This means they should take responsibility to find skilled helpers to help them achieve things. The vast majority of people reject taking responsibility but that's okay for me, I'm spreading awareness about how they don't have control of their own computing and what is the way to freedom.
There is still the SteamOS for the masochists who don't care about DRM and proprietary softaware in their computer
▶ No.950326>>950416 >>950439
>>950215
>Game engines are incredibly valuable, requiring enormous investments of money, time, and highly qualified work just to get to an usable prototype.
And despite the shittons of revenue and developer time proprietary engines get thrown at them, most are fucking dogshit. It's reached the point where fucking Godot is becoming a viable alternative to the big boys through nothing but autism and patreonbucks.
What the gaming industry has failed to realize is that if you make a good enough FOSS product, people and companies will still throw money at you to update and maintain your stuff or give them paid support.
>You think Bethesda is still using the same shitty engine for fun?
Nah, Bethesda is just retarded and too used to their existing toolkit.
>any moderately big engine is going to use tons of third party tools and libraries, good luck limiting yourself to those with permissive enough licensing
The state of permissively-licensed vidya middleware is much better than you'd think. First examples to come to mind are OpenAL and the various freetard physics engines, but there's plenty of games using open source middleware normalfags never hear about because it doesn't get big logos slapped in the intro videos like PhysX and Bink Video.
▶ No.950416>>950440 >>950456 >>950460 >>950629 >>951352
>>950230
DRM is not about stopping pirates anymore, it's about spying legit users and normalizing invasive software.
Why do you think Denuvo has been included in some free to play games?
>If the "DLC" is just a flag patch to enable some content already there, you are just begging for it.
You'd be surprised to see how often that's the case, but I meant that if anyone can make new content it's hard to sell low quality skins for a massive profit.
>>950326
>And despite the shittons of revenue and developer time proprietary engines get thrown at them, most are fucking dogshit.
Because what's the alternative?
With such a massive barrier to entry, there's not much competition to fear, so companies can spend as little as required to make sure their engine doesn't crash too often.
>people and companies will still throw money at you to update and maintain your stuff or give them paid support.
Even if this was true, you'd need a ton of resources to get there.
>Nah, Bethesda is just retarded and too used to their existing toolkit.
You're not wrong.
>there's plenty of games using open source middleware
I know, the problem is that it takes a single non-free component to stop the whole thing.
And even when the licenses are fine, it takes a single subhuman like Arthmoor to fuck things up with a tantrum and a baseless DMCA.
>>950238
Windows is the worst operating system, except for all the others.
Microsoft will take 10 steps back before resuming wiith slow and inconsistent improvements, but what are the alternatives?
MacOS, which is nothing but a status symbol and proud of being so?
Linux, in which your desktop crashing means losing all unsaved work, and in which your desktop suddenly crashes several times a day because a decade ago Gnome made some poor design choices, recently Wayland made some worse design choices, and just now the two butted heads?
https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2018/07/31/story-of-gnome-shell-extensions/
If Linux was actually viable for casual use normies would switch in a blink, but when normies hate updates and reboots yet stick with Windows 10 you have to admit your alternative has some serious issues.
▶ No.950437
>>950202
I wonder if there'll be (((incentives))) to extend or lower the price of your monthly Wangblows desktop rent by collecting free good goy points.
The goys who report the most alt-right opinions on faceberg followed by posting correct opinions in turn while playing their daily dose of Candy Cuck with a webcam+mic connected straight to the NSA may even use their Desktops for free while getting a super exclusive driver for their Nvidia GTX 6000BC Chosen edition that doesn't make half their games run like shit after a few months.
▶ No.950439
>>950326
> libraries, frameworks, middleware
Maximum kek, the state of modern gaming is akin to some business software package. Maybe a spreadsheet would be more fun, in fact.
▶ No.950440>>950442
>>950416
>Linux, in which your desktop crashing means losing all unsaved work, and in which your desktop suddenly crashes several times a day because a decade ago Gnome made some poor design choices, recently Wayland made some worse design choices, and just now the two butted heads?
<implying Wangblows, fagOS and friends do not suffer from similar issues
<using GNOME in CY+3
▶ No.950442
>>950440
WIndows separates things enough that an explorer.exe crash does nothing to all other open programs, and neither does a full gfx driver restart (can't say the same for the X server).
Neither Windows nor MacOS have a plugin system, and third party customizations such as ClassicShell are infinitely more stable than Gnome plugins while also being easier to disable/fallback from in case of issues.
>implying normal users should know to avoid Gnome
Expecting Average Joe to research each and every component of his Os is ridiculous, especially considering the amount of highly opinionated or straight up false info he would find.
▶ No.950455
Anyone who unironically thinks what OP posted will harm Windows in any way is crazy.
Office environments aren't going to do a complete 180 and refit their users with macOS. For one, this is prohibitively expensive compared to paying for Windows DaaS and literally no one gives a single shit about the IT guy having a headache because of it. The problem is not that better alternatives exist that "normies" aren't choosing to use but that marketing leads them to believe something like DaaS is actually for their benefit. Until ideas like privacy start taking a foothold, possibly from an intrusion generated by the use of future VR tech, then you can reasonably expect that the average user doesn't give a flip how far down the hole you throw him as long as he has access to "muh games" and excel.
▶ No.950456>>950463
>>950416
>Linux, in which your desktop crashing means losing all unsaved work, and in which your desktop suddenly crashes several times a day because a decade ago Gnome made some poor design choices, recently Wayland made some worse design choices, and just now the two butted heads?
I don't have problems like that.
>MacOS, which is nothing but a status symbol and proud of being so?
You're right here. If they made OS for regular people, they would scare all rich macfags.
But what about chromeOS? Google could just help Wine or fork it, so their shitty os would run windows crapps.
▶ No.950458>>950459 >>950460
Windows doesn't need to seppuku in order to lose it's dominance. Linux just has to become a viable alternative that doesn't require you to learn 7 million text commands and mechanics in order to do something more advanced than downloading programs from the app store. There's a huge gaping hole in Linux inbetween turbo normies who bought a computer in order to browse twitter, and people who would marry their operating system if it was legal.
▶ No.950459
>>950458
Have you ever heard about linux(GNU) mint?
▶ No.950460>>950462 >>950463
>>950416
>Linux, in which your desktop crashing means losing all unsaved work, and in which your desktop suddenly crashes several times a day
Here is your (you), now get the fuck back to >>>/g/ where you belong.
>>950458
>Linux just has to become a viable alternative that doesn't require you to learn 7 million text commands and mechanics in order to do something more advanced than downloading programs from the app store.
Ubuntu literally has an Apple style app store built into it which allows even dementia ridden boomers to easily download programs.
▶ No.950462
>>950460
>Ubuntu literally has an Apple style app store built into it
By gaping hole I mean that there's no middle ground for mildly tech-oriented people; people who are capable of browsing through menus and fixing problems as long as they have a direction. That's one of the main reasons why Windows is good I think, because there's a UI for almost literally everything. In Linux you're very likely to have to look up and type commands in the command prompt as soon as something isn't perfect right away, and unless you spend too much time learning the internal mechanics of Linux, you won't know what any of those commands mean nor be able to utilize them by yourself later. In windows, once you know where to look for something, you can look for it again with relative ease and browse through menus to look for shit.
▶ No.950463
>>950456
>I don't have problems like that.
"Works on my machine" is a terrible attitude to have when trying to make a popular product.
If you want something more damning, look at the regressions in supported hardware for the stable kernel releases.
>But what about chromeOS?
Google is infinitely worse than Microsoft, even without that ChormeOS is a bad botnet joke by design.
>Google could just help Wine or fork it, so their shitty os would run windows crapps.
Wine is far from being a serious Windows replacement, ChromeOS devices are intentionally gimped because "cloud" so good luck running any serious workloads on those, and in any case Google's security model for ChromeOS is a walled garden so they won't allow that.
Freedom-wise, ChromeOS is pretty much Android but worse, and Android is Linux but worse.
>>950460
>let's cut away part of the quote to make it look dumb
How original, let's ignore the actual Linux dev admitting they fucked up because that's uncomfortable.
>Ubuntu literally has an Apple style app store
the other anon specifically said "more advanced than downloading programs from the app store", so that's not the issue he was talking about.
▶ No.950477
>Wine runs a shit-ton of programs now
>runs Photoshop CS6 almost perfectly
>can apparently run DaVinci Resolve on Linux natively
Time to finally switch from Windows 7 to a distro. Although I need to leave Win7 there due to retarded parents.
▶ No.950480
>Wine runs a shit-ton of programs now
>runs Photoshop CS6 almost perfectly
>can apparently run DaVinci Resolve on Linux natively
Time to finally switch from Windows 7 to a distro. Although I need to leave Win7 there due to retarded parents.
▶ No.950484
>wangblows is shit
>water is wet
▶ No.950488>>951349
Windows 7 is the bright shining light of what it could be
instead they decided to screw that experience as hard as they can
and they are already paying for it, and with DaaS it will get worse
▶ No.950497>>950530
If a Windows user you know says "This is awful, there has to be another way." then we or other turboautists like us can help ease them in to a -- still shitty but less shitty -- new path. There's no point trying to sway them or feeling pity until that point. Their love of garbage is as nautral to them as our hatred of it, and we're both right.
▶ No.950530>>950540
>>950497
>still shitty but less shitty
If only.
Every time Microsoft fucks up, Linux fails to grasp the opportunity, every single time, and that's before counting Linux fuck ups: there's a reason the market share hasn't moved for so long.
>There's no point trying to sway them or feeling pity until that point.
There's plenty of people already at that point, or ahead of it: mostly geniuses that never save their work and run debloat .bat scripts off pastebin, but also users with EoL hardware that does not get driver updates for new Windows versions.
>Their love of garbage is as nautral to them as our hatred of it
Implying every single Os availabe isn't garbage.
▶ No.950540>>950544
>>950530
Linux doesn't need to grasp an opportunity. It's a niche OS (Sorry, CH-47 Linooks is the kernel) that serves a specific purpose, and for that purpose it's overwhelming successful. Linux doesn't need more people USING it. It needs new blood keeping it alive, which it has.
>Implying every single Os availabe isn't garbage.
<still shitty but less shitty
Maybe my verdict of "shitty" was too charitable?
▶ No.950544>>950545 >>950623
>>950540
>Linux doesn't need more people USING it.
Same market share as 10 years ago, but far more distros to split money and work between: without a large userbase breaking the impasse things will only get worse.
Look at it this way, the only thing keeping Windows in check and preventing Microsoft from investing all their efforts into bullshit such as their app store is the colossal user base: they HAVE to keep their malcontent low at least to avoid scaring the investors, and keeping users happy (or not too unhappy) requires working on the very important things, such as hardware support, stability, backwards compatibility, performance...
The average Linux distro has nothing stopping the dev team from working on some experimental file system before fixing faliures to boot and desktop crashes, there's just not enough people giving a shit.
>Maybe my verdict of "shitty" was too charitable?
I'd say so, on one hand you have Windows going lolrandom and failing miserably at permission-based security, on the other you have Linux disabling full disk encryption on the lock screen and being vulnerable to undetectable user-level keyloggers because Wayland.
▶ No.950545>>950549
>>950544
>Look at it this way
No, look at it this way. Back in 2000 when I plugged a 56k modem into my laptop nothing happened. I spent days reading cryptic man pages and getting groomed by 35 year old pedos on ICQ. When I plug an ethernet cord into my laptop in 2018 I get internet. And this was without the grand beneficence of RHEL or whoever the fuck is the Linux elite. Autism drives Linux development, not money, not user numbers.
And now that turboautists have more money than ever and are reproducing more than ever, Linux will be just fine m8.
The only point you could argue that I would agree with is systemd. But even then, we don't have to use it.
▶ No.950548
>>949400 (OP)
I'd switch to Linux if a Linux desktop enviroment wasn't shit
▶ No.950549
>>950545
>getting groomed by 35 year old pedos on ICQ.
legit chuckled
▶ No.950605>>950616
>>950116
>>I don't really get not making game engines FOSS. You can keep the art assets nonfree and use the same marketing model as always
>b-but then people will just create their own art assets and distribute those for people who just compiled muh engine and I won't see a penny and die in poverty while everybody plays muh game for free.
It worked for DOOM and FreeDOOM.
I like OpenMW as well.
▶ No.950616
>>950605
FreeDoom is the antithesis of what he's talking about.
Doom is 25 years old and still doesn't have a servicable open art replacement despite being one of the most popular games in existence.
▶ No.950617
Oh, I take that back. Waiting For Romero To Play is a servicable replacement of This Love.
:^)
▶ No.950623
>>950544
Not everybody gives a shit about some retard's idea of a desktop. I'm fine with i3 and I don't care the least bit what some luser who can't even program wants.
▶ No.950629>>950690 >>950759
>>950416
>>people and companies will still throw money at you to update and maintain your stuff or give them paid support.
>Even if this was true, you'd need a ton of resources to get there.
>Even if this was true
>needs to drag up fucking Gnome to make Linux look less viable than Windows
>being so new you don't know corporations throw money at succesful FOSS projects to keep them maintained
It's already happening with Godot on a much smaller scale, the gaming industry is just slow to follow software development trends. A good chunk are still using Intel's C++ compiler because they're too autistic to try anything else.
>>>/g/
▶ No.950690
>>950629
>implying using g++ is not a sign of autism
▶ No.950743
>>950222
>what are the existing computers
>what are common SBCs
>what is any computer out there
>what is a Raptor Talos II?
▶ No.950757>>950804
*breaths in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Winfags. Take the rope. Wrap around thine neck. Kick off the chair.
For years I've been telling people to use linux. You replied "muh games". You wouldn't compromise. You and the normies fed the beast. Microsoft has reached the ultimate manifestation of its ideology. The ideology being that you dont own your computer. They do. Listen to me idiots. Invest in RISC-V. Support and push it any way you can before microsoft cucks you out of any freedom when using your pc. Please.
▶ No.950763>>950893 >>951327
>>950011
>conflating free software and free culture
Nigger, these things are TANGENTIALLY related, you know that right? There is some overlap but the issues are not one to one.
▶ No.950764
>>950012
nope.
that's the only antivirus AI have on that thing.
Thank god I only turn it on to do photo-editing, then turn it off, saving everything to an External drive.
Primary machine is an MX Linux Laptop with two tv screens hooked up to it
▶ No.950782
▶ No.950788>>950893
>>949890
>run gentoo
>play my communist (proprietary) vidya just fine
>want to play multi theft auto, a capitalist (free) mod for a communist game
>doesn't work with WINE
>windows managed to explode its boot entry somehow, it worked about a week ago and I haven't touched /boot since
>have to fix it, don't feel like downloading a windows iso, might just drop the game
A redditor playing the newest garbage would find out their pixelshit with rick and morty references or Call of Battlefield won't work on their first day of using WINE, but in 7~ months of running gentoo I ran into a game I couldn't play, although I don't play games as much nowadays because everything new is trash and I've played the oldies to death.
We're still far from it. Someone who actually plays some goddamn video games will have trouble with WINE, and the niggercattle will drop it on their first day. I doubt WINE will be in a satisfactory state in 5 years, and in 5 years microsoft will already be up to something new.
▶ No.950803
>>949400 (OP)
normie sysadmins are fucked.
▶ No.950804
>>950757
> RISC-V
wilco
modern computing is pure degeneracy. normies took the wrong exit years ago.
▶ No.950893>>950965
>>950763
They're not the same issue, but similar in that most games aren't something you can easily swap out for a FOSS substitute.
>>950788
You'd be surprised at how well Wine + DXVK handles modern AAA vidya.
▶ No.950913
>>949400 (OP)
That was their plan all along. Get everyone on windows 10 and then start charging them rent.
▶ No.950924
>>949831
1 sentence isn't a paragraph. OP's post has at most 1 paragraph and then 400 single sentences
▶ No.950945
>>949409
Windows was for niggers since Vistaids. Then 7 came which was not as bad. Then 8 was full turbonigger with phone GUIs and shit. Then (there was no 9 because niggers can't count) 10 was some pointless "upgrade" that everyone wanted because it was an Upgrade, which does nothing more than add a bunch of backdoors, bugs, and force you to update every 5 minutes.
▶ No.950959
>>950217
>Who the fuck is this "us?"
Probably the imaginary posters product of his samefagging. Though strangely he's holding back this time.
▶ No.950961>>951119
>>949516
>normie friends
I have better chance at convincing them to use android x86 rather than linux, at this point android doesn't seems so bad compare to what wangblows had become.
▶ No.950965
>>950893
I think the point isn't how well it handles AAA, it's how well it handles all the spaghetti coded garbage, e.g. LoL, pixel shit, older obscure games, that people like to play for fun/with friends/on a whim.
▶ No.950975
>>950032
Hello you and all posters claiming this will be the end of Microcock, yes I too hope that is the case, but let's keep in mind that this is not has not yet been made official by MS, until then we don't know what their strategy will be and how they are planning to push this into the normalfags and they might well suceed.
▶ No.950981
>>950196
>OpenGL ES
You are aware that Godot plans to have Vulkan in 4.0, right?
▶ No.951022
Feels good pirating Windows Server 2016 Datacenter! All the benefits with few of the downsides thanks to Local Group Policy!
▶ No.951026
>>949427
>plebbit spacing derailment
Reported, you snot nose taint licker!
▶ No.951119
>>950961
>android doesn't seems so bad
Literally has built in DRM to lock you out of stuff if you root.
>wangblows
>le ebin misspelling
That doesn't make your suggestion any less insane, at least Windows does not punish you for having an admin account.
▶ No.951174
/g/eek community won't stand for it tho.
Someone will just reverse engineer it and make their own (server) for daas
▶ No.951178
>>949744
I haven't listened to a statement so correct in months.
▶ No.951261
>>949516
too bad it doesn't fucking work right out of the box. I think my experiences approximate what happens to the average new-to-linux user. I want to make it clear than I'm not against linux. I just have experienced issues that I think make it hard to transition. here's what will generally happen:
First, you are presented with hundreds of "distros" to choose from.You now have to find out which one to use, which can be a time consuming process. normies will default to ubuntu, which perhaps isn't so good, privacy wise.
Next they have to install it. can present minor issues.
for people who literally just browse the web and write documents and stuff, this works fine. but once you want to do other things another issue arises. In my experience, for windows users, it's hardest to adapt to and understand the linux file system. for me, being used to DOS and wangblows, each drive having a separate system seems logical. when I install a program from online I put it into \Program Files\programname, and all its dependencies and such go into that folder. In linux, different parts go all over the place. it's like buying parts to build a radio. in windows, you build the radio and put it into one box. in linux, you take all the bits and scatter them in dozens of boxes.
And the final main issue is that for a lot of things you end up having to use the command line just to do simple tasks, like extracting a folder to a certain directory.
There are more problems but these are the main ones. Again this is just what I feel, maybe I'm retarded but so are most normies about technology.
If yet another distro could be made that was able to:
-approximate a windows-like file system, where programs have their own single folder
-make user have root access all the time, or somehow simplify it so you don't have to type "gksu caja" in a terminal just to copy a folder, for example
-be more refined and without many of the bugs that linux distros may have
it would be far easier to let regular people transition.
▶ No.951326
>>950171
> No absolute madman wants to produce shareable art anymore for free because the last decade has only produced insufferable "muh intellectual property doughnut steel" tumblr millenials who put restrictive licenses in comissions (yes, you paid for that; no, all you can do with it is downloading it and masturbating to it in silence, and if you ever repost it, I am going to crush you). Nobody does it for exposure, or for the enjoyment of everyone else, or for the sake of art anymore. Long gone are the days of unlikely motley teams of people on the internet joining to make something fun, specially in art. You would be surprised how strong the mob mentality in the artist communities of tumblr, dA and Twitter is, and they all try to hunt down those who work for free, or work for cheap.
Is this true?
▶ No.951327
>>950763
Kiki is a loli again?
▶ No.951346>>951374
>>949976
>muh proprietary games
so should gamedevs license their bullshit on GPL? that doesn't make any sense at all and you can't make money out of free software without begging like assmad or being Torvalds who get money from the megacorps.
most games no matter how decent or terrible don't even take off due to some bullshittery going on in their circle
go fuck yourself with your 0ad and minetest
people starve, have mouths to feed, and need money not just "want" money. go advocate your free software shittery and sleep on a couch.
Free software is only good in a utopian commie society but just a heads up: not possible
▶ No.951349
>>950488
this is what happens when you pass the torch to indian.
▶ No.951352
>>950416
>linux crashes several
Woah, did you mean fedora? Because it's tailored to crash as a testing ground for enterprise markets and to force dumps so they can get info about your set up and what made it crash.
>using gnome
>ever
lols
>If Linux was actually viable for casual use normies would switch in a blink, but when normies hate updates and reboots yet stick with Windows 10 you have to admit your alternative has some serious issues.
You can blame red hat for that.
>wayland
>gnome
>systemd
But in the end it is because of linux never being in any OEMs except lenovo (remember that ubantoo girl?).
▶ No.951355
I couldn't give less of a shit, I don't use WIndows.
▶ No.951361
>>950289
>muh videogames
How does it feel to have the mind of a child?
▶ No.951374
>>951346
There's nothing wrong with "begging" for development cash. It's called the patron model of funding and it's been around for as long as people have been using money.