/tech/ - Technology★

>>944635 (OP)

You just have to dig deeper

FTP networks are halfway decent place to start

Go read Ted Kacynskis manifesto

>>944718

This. It's called Industrial society and it's future. I think you'll like it.

https://archive.org/details/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFutureTheUnabombersManifesto

what about quantum computing?

>>944638

What?

I think the internet may have been humanity's greatest achievement but also may very likely lead to our downfall

>>944743

The internet is worth less than dogshit.

>>944753

>Sci-Fi writers back then

<"And then, we could chain or mesh geostationary satellites, and build an orbital data network with them, that could reach any part of the Earth if we let them use each other as relay nodes!"

>Sci-fi writers now

<Our modern understanding of physics is absolute and will never change in the future, so FTL travel and intelligent alien life are completely impossible. Fuck wormholes, space bending, and warp drives as well. Humans are an interestellar species in my novel anyway. But above all, fuck homeopathy, antivaxxers, falt earthers, Christians and Drumpf, because I fucking love science! Amirite guise? Also fuck engineering breakthroughs while we are at it.

I'm actually in the same boat as OP. I LOVED technology growing up, and seeing the explosion of tech in the 90s and early 00s was amazing. It was like another space race.

Everyone involved with tech was doing it because they loved it. People in their garages just soldering shit together, coding day and night, working for something they were passionate about.

But now.... now it's all changed. Now it isn't about passion. It isn't about doing what you love. It's all about pandering to whatever bullshit faggot demographic is complaining the loudest. The tech isn't "by us for us," it's "by them for no one."

My whole life is tech. I grew up with it. It molded me into the person I am today and my entire career, but I can't fucking stand all this facebook, twitter, snapchat bullshit. It's not that I don't understand, it's that I loathe it.

I hate that no one understands it.

I hate that everyone complains about it.

I hate that worthless cunts control things containing large amounts of data and twist it to fit their way of thinking instead of telling the truth.

I hate that the strides technology has made is treated so poorly by the masses.

I hate that media has turned into a 24 hour cycle of shit.

I hate that there is such a wealth of information out there to consume, but the masses use it to post pictures of their dicks and tits.

>>944635 (OP)

In the past when you bought a computer or software you bought a product. Sure, there was usually a catalogue included with other stuff you could buy, but that was just some harmless extra you could ignore (I actually quite like looking at old software catalogues that came with games).

Today when you buy something, or more likely today when you sign up for something the product is secondary, it's only a carrier for the advertising to buy even more shit. Bought a new game? Buy our DLC, season pass and lootcrates. Bought a new phone? Sign up for our services, buy more apps, use apps with ads that want you to buy other shit. Buy shit inside the apps. Bought a new PC? Sign up for a Microsoft account. Buy Minecraft and Candy Crush. Bought some software? Buy our cloud service, pay monthly fees, you own nothing goy.

>>944741

He's beig fucking delusional. It's all fucking bullshit and everyone on this board agrees. If you think there's fucking anything you can do to stop this shit then you're fucking delusional.

Daily reminder that Fakebook is now so fucking used and required in modern society that even gettin a fucking job requires it.

>>944638

>le dig le deeper XDDDDDDD

Stop fucking suggestig this bluefucking pill hopefagging shit. Everyone else ITT has the proper fucking idea. It's all fucking down the drain, and that's the fucking thing about chans, they actually fucking see the truth of everything, and has higher intelligence than the rest of modern society about these fucking things. Now take your cuck shit back to reddit.

>>944835

And there is also the fact that anyone who trys to change it back is the dumbest shit ever, and doesn't realise how they will be stampeded the fuck ot of by the big monopolies. All of /tech/ has already come to terms with the fact that all will be in the cloud in a few years, so why the fuck don't anyone else trying to stop it accept it. It's the old slogan, "conform or be vaporized." So fucking stop trying to turn this around, we actually know our shit and know it will never work.

This thread should teach the bluepill hopecucks a proper fucking lesson before they march on to their death. Everything is fucking shit now, and that is a fact cofirmed by this site.

>>944843

I have my free software today. I am fine with what I have. When open Risc V chips come later, my computing will be perfect.

>>944853

>have my free software today

For now

>When open Risc V chips come later

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I've grown to hate it too. And it's a pretty simple reason why. Technology used to be about improving life and making the world better. Technology would come out and make your own life easier. No more thumbing through books, just search. Talk with people all over the world like you never could before. Create things you never thought possible.

Today, internet is a race to see who can give people the biggest dopamine rush via likes, tweeks, favorites, and hive-mind bullshit, all controlled by a few massive companies that have locked out any competition what so ever.

The purpose of the internet and computers have changed. They are now about spying on you and making you feel like you're accomplishing something by making stupid as fuck posts and having friends and random people like, upvote, favorite, etc your stupid shit. They've been turned evil by evil people.

>>944871

And chans are the only places who will ever understand this. Don't listen to the cucks who think they can solve this problems, they're just being delusional facing up against the most invincible evils in the world that are Google and FB. Want that job? Well you better have an insta, snapchat, and FB account. There is nothing that can be done differently anymore, and that is a thing we all understand

>>944839

>and that's the fucking thing about chans, they actually fucking see the truth of everything, and has higher intelligence than the rest of modern society about these fucking things

LMAO.

It has been how many years since the last time you've left the basement, anon?

>>944635 (OP)

Yeah I have grown weary of the slave aspect of machines.

They're still good, but boy, so many man-eons of people in their peak and formative years are being lost to sitting in front of glowy boxes and zombie phones.

I'm glad I'm old enough to have had my growing years when there was no internet or anything, I actualy had to go out and move my body to have fun.

My life would be so much worse if that didn't happen.

>>944764

>Our modern understanding of physics is absolute and will never change in the future

This particular part of your rant can be applied to so many other things these days, people seem to think that the way we live will last forever or that 60 years of feminism will outsmart 10k years of evolution. I hate that way to think, the I am the smartest person in the room, people in the past were bigots if I would have been there I would have totally been different even though I believe people are a product of their environment, and people in the future will look up to me because I'm on the right side of history. These morons always think they're the best thing that even happened and when they're together, they always try to outdo each other with whatever they perceive to be the smart and enlightened thing to do even if it's fundamentally retarded, and if you're facing an "enemy" and you don't have any argument, make an hamster face and look at your "allies" for approval while telling us which year we're in.

Look at this for rage material, this bitch e-pimped her "bigoted" grandpa for views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuPbBqre6U

>>944669

When are our scifi authors going to envision race specific bioweapons for the scientists of tomorrow? There was some research on these in the past, but it seems to have gone quiet, and obviously these were not deployed.

>>944827

>>>/incel/

We are following the natural trajectory to a place where "Divergent" isn't just fiction.

IOW when idealists want to govern the definition of human personality.

This is the real world, stop bitching.

>>944935

I've been trying to tell these fuckers for months but they just. don't. fucking. listen. Glad you accept the truth. And I gotta fucking ROFL at the people who think we can still do anything to change this. It's fucking obvious we can't, and that is something that is important for actual redpilled people like you and me to understand.

>>944935

B-B-B-BUT I WANNA BE LE GNUERILLA LARP CUCK SERIOUSLY WE CAN STILL LE TURN THINGS AROUND LOLOLOL HAHA LE JEWGLE CAN'T STOP US XDDDDDD WTF I GOT UNPERSONNED HOW TF DID THAT LE HAPPEN I SWEAR THERE'S STILL HOPE :)))))))

>>944873

>There is nothing that can be done differently anymore, and that is a thing we all understand

Go sell that defeatist shit to /r9k/.

You don't need social media presence to get a job unless you want to work for some bullshit like Best Buy. Besides, you know you could do a thing called working for yourself, or remote work, or any number of things if that shit about jobs requiring social media was even true. It isn't, you just want us all to accept your excuses for neetdom. You are the reason you fail, own it. You don't need us to be your enabler.

Im right there with you, anon. My biggest issue is the steady maneuvering of tech towards a cloud-based, license based, "smart" everything system. As wireless internet speeds match and surpass HDD transfer speeds, you're going to see all physical storage disappear from consumer tech, and all software, including the OS, will be hosted on a corporate server. Consumer computers will become glorified tablets running VMs that have to be connected to the internet to work at all, and all of "your" files and software will be accessed remotely. It's the wet-dream end goal for total corporate and state control and surveillance of technology usage. You think I'm being dramatic? Go look up Chromebooks.

>if you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a tablet, running a VM - forever.

>>945014

How quickly would someone get /fucko/d if he started a libre rocket control project.

Asking for a friend.

>>944937

Having an 80 IQ must be so nice; not a care in the world.

>>945000

Glad to see people actually realize this is the only fucking future there will be, and no amount of """"""""""""""action""""""""""""""" will change that. Everyone ITT is right there behind you. Everything will be stored in the cloud, and that is a scenario that shall not be disagreed with on these premises.

Also, you recieve an award for the most based trips ever to have been laid upon this board.

>>945016

Gods I know, right? Just look at the bluepill cucks ITT scrambling for an excuse to ignore the truths espoused in such posts as >>945000.

>>944981

See >>945000

Your bluepill isn't so relevent now, is it? Once again, a reminder that there is no fucking stopping this future, and much of /tech/ has come to terms with that.

>>945000

>nobody debating this post

That's how you know the based, old redpilled /tech/ is back. Nothing can change this timeline.

>>945000

>>if you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a tablet, running a VM - forever.

Brilliantly said, anon. This is a quote that should be upheld in its own sticky, to remind these hopeshills on the world they shall verily live in. If only more would see the world through the eyes of yours and mine so.

>>944843

Oh, didn't fancy seeing you here blackpill CIA nigger.

>>945000

>you're going to see all physical storage disappear from consumer tech, and all software

NVMe and RAID setups aren't going anywhere. Why does it matter to me if all normalfags switch to a thin client model? Gaymers will not part with their desktops -- because consoles will always be garbage. (What's hysterical is that people here ebulliently discussed how returning to a thin client model would be great, just weeks ago.) Paying per hour to dial into a mainframe... but at least NORMALFAGS won't be able to ruin it!

>>945020

Are you the same faggot spewing this sewage in every thread? You're always using "based" and "redpilled" -- you don't fit it; fuck off. I'm not going to turn torpid because of your psyop.

>>945036

That looks worse than jail.

>>945015

>implying there will be any law enforcement left after the war

Regarding the rocket FBW it probably depends on the amount of undercover bioluminescents active in the field of small private rocket startups.

If it's just some quasi-fireworks that can't even get a cubesat to any decent orbit they probably won't bother beyond the usual automated big data collection, I'd make sure to write the code as poojeetly unintelligible and bloated as possible while adopting some kind of CoC but remaining in total control and only enforcing it on the surface to further deter their interest in seeing you as a threat.

>>945036

I wonder how a GNU/Linux botnetted reality DE would look in comparison.

>>944922

What's "incel" about his rant ?

It's encouraging that by 2050 not a single person could have a conversation like this.

>>945052

Summon mecha hitler before it's too late.

>>944764

>Our modern understanding of physics is absolute and will never change in the future

This absolutely fucking pisses me off because science is understanding of what's around us, not a set of rules that dictate what's real and what's not.

>>945067

Science is for redditors; Mathematics is for patricians.

>>945072

>/cuteboys/ was for girls

This blows my mind. The 90's really were a better time.

>>944918

we already have the sun, diabetes and sickle cell, what more do you want?

>>945072

>implying I care about crypto

>implying I care about VR

>implying I care about "indie vidya"

>implying I care about "personal-assistant" AI

>implying I care about ASSFAGGOTS

>implying contemporary chans (sic) are any good

<inb4 "but iiii don't like any of those things, you don't understaaaand how much better everything was 20 years ago!"

Those are all gimmicky garbage, and you know it.

>another blackpill FUD thread appears when Americucks are awake

goddamn glow-in-the-darks get off my board!!!

>>944981

Working for yourself is very difficult without the internet to draw in new customers. These days people don't use phone directories they just use google.

>>944635 (OP)

Nigga, stop being a unselfish cunt and just use what you like. You're being cucked by jewish

>>945000

Is it even that different now? How much shit do you do through your web browser? All media except games is done in a web browser these days. Unless you're torrenting something it's unlikely to ever be on your machine.

>>945067

Science doesn't exist and it never will exist. It's another form of propaganda where you can control the tech and people's response to it in order to keep them in line. You live in a propaganda bubble that denies race exists. What else is being denied that you can't see in front of your eyes?

>>945072

>>cryptos, crypto trading, crypto mining, and active deep web markets

Fictional money which came from no where isn't a positive.

>>retail ready virtual reality technology

You mean slapping a camera in front of your eyes and then teleporting around 3D environments? Could do that with the PS1 if I wanted.

>>innumerable amazing indie vidya, all of which can be pirated

Well you would need amazing indie vidya for this to be true.

>>highly versatile and functional personal-assistant AIs

Does not exist. Spyware that monitors you 24/7 so it can ask if you need more cheetos is not AI.

>>incredibly easily accessible computer science resources, for that matter all educational resources

Online learning resources locked behind paywalls and accounts you have to sign up for. Most of which aren't useful as they're dumbed down to the lowest level.

>>incredibly easily accessible open source and security-conscious software

Awesome open source software which serves no purpose on it's own.

>>literally even more massive amounts of high quality porn in even more genres

This is a huge negative. Porn is a weapon of war.

>>an incredibly broad array of alt chans with literally any activity vs faggotry balance you desire, all the way from pigchan, to lainchan to bitmessage or any other dead deep web imageboard

I fucking love all these dead commie image boards. I especially love anime posting while my communist NEET bucks pay for me to survive.

>>the entire vidya genres of MOBA and Battle Royale as well as planetside-type FPS, dozens or hundreds of players in active physics-based PVP at once

Now I see you're just trolling.

You will find Boomers were born in the 40-60s and not the 80s, which are earlymillenials or late Gen Xers.

>>945085

>>945077

Ignore the bluepill cuck.

>>945095

What other option do we even have? See >>945000. They fucking won.

>>945078

>telling the truth is blackpill FUD

W E W

>>945084

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real

>>945076

>The sun

>Removing shitskins

>>945085

>You will find Boomers were born in the 40-60s and not the 80s, which are earlymillenials or late Gen Xers.

You're right, but apparently the whole "30 year old boomer" thing is some forced meme that's making its way over from cuckchan. Slowly, because it's forced as fuck.

>>945098

>What other option do we have? [...] They fucking won.

No, they haven't >>945035

Gaymers have the IKEA effect when it comes to their computers; and if you bring up Steam you're just plain out of touch with how normalfags see reality. I'll often see the people here say things like "How do normalfags accept Steam DRM without at least baring their teeth?" -- because to them, it isn't DRM. They think they actually "own" those bits. Contrast this with the following

>Hey, Gamers! We'll take your desktop computer, and put it somewhere GamerSecure®. You'll be able to access your workstation from any other device!

Even an anencephalic gaymer would be suspicious of such a business practice.

>>945241

See why we tell people it's all fucking over? Everything is shit now, based on objective fact as you displayed here, that's a core fucking belief of chans holy shit I still can't fucking believe people here don't just fucking follow it.

>>945241

>>945264

>inb4 the bluepill fag calls us blackpill fags for dropping these truth bombs

>>945072

>the state of your fucking anus right now

Hows it feel to get CHAN'D? Good, right?

>>945241

NOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF MY SHITCOINS AND CUCK PORN WAAAAAAAAAAA

>>945270

>CHAN'D

Holy fuck I'm stealing this. Blackpiller banter is fucking legendary.

>>945241

>literally massive amounts of degenerate nigger cuck porn with patrician vanilla fetishes becoming increasingly niche and/or raycist and unprogressive

It's fucking sickening how hard the left is winning in fucking everything now. Not only will our fiture be cloud-only, but all will be under the eye of Big Sister who has already burned all problematic content off the face of the earth.

>>945280

Ikr. There's hardly any non-cuck shit in anything anymore. Literally everything this past year alone is SJW shit.

>>945254

>the virgin bluepill cuck

>can'g even redtext right

>>945241

>the chad redpill

>always there to drop the truth about everything when a cuck is being delusional

Once upon a time designing mystery meat websites was bad. Now it's hard to find any that aren't with controls that jump around as the page loads.

>>944669

>> yfw you realize that "The Cloud" is just Mainframes rebranded.

Good thing mainframes are really cool.

>>944937

I'll explain once and for all: Yeah, we live in a world where there is no progress, thus everything only can go degenerate.

Now, that's not why you shouldn't do anything, nor saying what you're saying.

So, even though it's the truth, you should not tell that, for the simple reason that it serves their interests, and because our ancestors did not stop making children/fight while knowing this truth.

Moreover, the degeneracy happens at a global scale; but you still can maintain yourself at a local one. That's why fighting IS important, because that's literally for the survival of your own ideas, not for the world, but for yourself. It's possible to do. They'll never be able to destroy all island. The goal is to create one, to maintain one and to bring as much people in the right on it as you can.

Going against the machine is extremly noble, because that's a lost cause, that'll cost your everything. That's the best of us, that do that. Now, at our little level, the goal is to maintain yourself and your family up, or if you're enough lucky to have one, your community.

I don't know if you're saying that blindly, without any depth, and/or if it's because you're tired of faggots coming out of college thinking that with petitions, or controlled and authorized by the government protests, they'll change anything. On that last point, I totally agree, that's the wrong methods, following retarded ideologies. But I feel that you're saying that without depth, and just to content yourself for not doing anything. Because there's a huge amount of retarded people working in /tech/ that give this as an excuse to use facebook, their smartphone, all the tech, saying that since you can't escape, then let's embrace it.

I'm sorry but again, material is not important. The life in itself is not important. But I'm not gonna try to convince a secular money loving american about the absolute importance of spirituality and honor.

>>945303

Dig down time capsules warning about the hooknoses for future generations.

>>944635 (OP)

technology is useful. it offers tools to help cure disease, more ways to share information, entertainment, etc. the problem is it's mostly crap, especially in this decade where it's gone completely downhill in every way possible

>>944837

no it isn't

>>945072

i'm not an amerifag so i can't talk about this subject but i don't think a 30 year old can be a boomer.

>crypto

are you talking about cryptography in general or are you just a faggot?

>crypto mining

aside from bitcoin, it's just another worthless idea like stock markets. but my $400 turned into $20000 because of idiots like you so i can't complain

>deep web markets

have literally nothing of interest. you could just walk up to a nigger in your city if you're looking for some bullshit like drugs

>retail ready virtual reality

VR is all crap so far. bad resolutions and refresh rates (and motion blur and other artifacts)

>retail ready

are you trying to sound like a faggot?

>indie

it's literally 99.99999% complete shit. hurr durr look at me i made an image out of big squares that means it's an 8-bit and old skool pixel game XD XDDDDD. minecraft XDDDDD

>highly versatile and functional personal-assistant AIs

AI still doesn't exist you fuck

>incredibly easily accessible computer science resources, for that matter all educational resources

>incredibly easily accessible open source and security-conscious software

what you really mean by "computer science", is probably programming. and programming is no easier now than it was 30 years ago aside from having faster hardware. judging by the rest of your post, you probably are talking about one of those meme websites or a code bootcamp

>literally even more massive amounts of high quality porn in even more genres

porn is shit by definition. but I agree anything we have now is better than VHS

>an incredibly broad array of alt chans with literally any activity vs faggotry balance you desire, all the way from pigchan, to lainchan to bitmessage or any other dead deep web imageboard

chans are dead and were always shit implementation wise

>the entire vidya genres of MOBA and Battle Royale as well as planetside-type FPS, dozens or hundreds of players in active physics-based PVP at once

holy fuck your ignorance is unlimited. MOBA is a meme. Battle Royale is literally the successor to the MOBA meme. MOBA was just deathmatch renamed to a more millenial word. Battle Royale is just MOBA but with a last man standing winning condition instead of most kills

(continued)

<inb4 "but iiii don't like any of those things, you don't understaaaand how much better everything was 20 years ago!"

Here let me list a few

20 years ago I played jazz jackrabbit on dos on a CRT. it had some simple subtle features such as

-vsync

-no motion blur because CRTs got none

Then 10 years ago i somehow lost my CRT and got stuck with a top of the line 2009 LCD (which was soon replaced with a top of the line 2012 LCD). Now when I played jazz jackrabbit or any 2D platformer, it felt unplayable. I could never put my finger on it because there were so many visual artifacts that I couldn't understand what was caused by the hardware, the monitor, or my eyes, so i just took it for granted. Then recently i figured out if i just use a CRT and turn on vsync it will look absolutely perfect. The status quo right now is to play with motion blur and vsync off (or finally, gsync which is another disaster lol). And all these "indie" and "retro" games coming out are designed to play on shitty LCDs (but they still turn to shit once the image starts moving). Aside from hardware problems, I've yet to see a single "indie"/"retro" game that looks anything near on the quality of something from the super mario era. a year ago i looked through all the indie games trying to find a modern platformer becuase I'm designing a platformer myself and want to see the competition, but I found not a single modern game with good graphics aside from Momodora RUTM and cuphead (which wasn't that great)

Back on the topic of vsync, almost no image viewer has it. I just wrote one a few days ago with beam racing (removes 16ms of input latency) vsync and there's no comparison. Feh, windows' viewer, sxiv, faststone are all completely inferior for panning images to this software I wrote in a day (I'm not interested and haven't tested other software such as gthumb that has hamburger menus and takes a day to start up to view a single image). When you pan an image in my program on a CRT, you can see 100% of the image detail. Doing it on an LCD will make you have to pause panning for a second every time you want to see what's there. Doing it with feh on a CRT will cause tearing, double image artifacts, judder, and more.

Now back to LCDs. Even just looking at the LCD industry, the quality has degraded in several ways from the early 2000s LCDs:

-Menus take several seconds to open

-Resolutions/refresh take several seconds to switch between (I suspect this is partially due to HDCP fucking up the firmware/microprocessor). You cannot even see the POST screen when your computer boots because it takes too long for the monitor to turn on

-Menus are buggy as fuck. Look at any old Dell (e.g 1905FP, 1706FP, e176FP) for example and there's no comparison. Newer LCD technology is completely and utterly fucked on the microprocessor side, just like all new embedded crap. An example would be the disaster that is home routers (WPS, web vulnerabilities, etc).

Websites: You can only realistically have a few tabs open in a non-modded web browser or else your system will slow down (it doesn't matter how fast you think your system is. it can only be _so_ fast). Solution is to disable JS of course. Actually I'm too tired to give a shit about websites right now

Vehicles: Now have 100KLOC firmware in them. Result: They have RCE vulns that allow you to control someone's car by connecting to it's mobile IP address and exploiting the servers on it, jumping from the shitty "smart" web software to the ECU. Other results: cars crash more often for no reason due to software bugs. upcoming: even buggier "self-driving" cars with 100x the vulnerabilities.

Public transportation:

>every minute on the speaker: ATTENTION GOY REPORT ANY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY

>expensive as fuck

>new system of obnoxious computer voice announcing name of each stop instead of previous less harmful beep (and now beep is loud as fuck and speaker next to your ear)

>$200 fine for crossing road near bus stops

>$200 fine for walking on side walk near bus stops

>$200 fine for not writing your ID in some box on your card (which doesn't exist now because it was replaced with botnet smart cards)

>sorry I missed my stop. if possible could you let me off when you have a chance?

>nope that's against the rules my friend

>stops for 30 seconds each at 5 stops, right next to sidewalk

>okay can i get off now

>no my friend that's against the rules XDDD muh liability

TVs

"It's all gone smart XDDD"

>>945072

wait, I missed one

>incredibly easily accessible open source and security-conscious software

lol fuck you cunt. software now is not any more secure than 1990. it literally still has trivial problems like stack smashing and injection vulns and "le more advanced problems", such as "I didn't read the documentation" or "I used an incompatible version of my dependency"

>>945342

>Public transportation:

ooh i forgot one: they're replacing the old busses now with two story botnetmobiles

-5 cameras at every angle instead of the previous zero

-roll over because said two stories (but botnet covers this with insurance plans!)

>>945341

> help cure disease

Then cure cancer, diabetes, and every fucking "chronic" diseases. Protip: You can't.

> entertainment

Complete spread of nigger tier music, pornography, video games that makes you waste your time... Thanks technology!

>>945348

>Then cure cancer, diabetes, and every fucking "chronic" diseases. Protip: You can't.

They use technology in hopspitals for a reason my friend. They don't have to solve every known possible problem. Anyway i was talking about in principle. In principle, technology could be used to solve diseases.

>Complete spread of nigger tier music, pornography, video games that makes you waste your time... Thanks technology!

Electric guitars are technology. Every instrument used in jazz is technology. Or are you just saying entertainment in general is a waste of time?

>>945350

Ubuntu/GNOME are already as bad as they could possibly get. It's not even worth installing them anymore for whatever micro benefits they could offer.

>>945350

They're still only treating symptoms and not the causes. If you don't have cancer in the first place, you don't have to cure it.

>>945352

>They don't have to solve every known possible problem.

The biggest killer is cancer. The worst diseases in term of money are chronic diseases. Yet they can't cure it. The truth is that chronic disease is the best for big pharma. Do you know how much someone having cancer is worth? More than 120.000 euros (for 18 months of treatment). Chronic disease is with vaccines and over use of medicament why Big Pharma is the second biggest industry after computing in the world.

>Every instrument used in jazz is technology.

You're just playing with words here. I was obviously talking about industries. You're like saying that hammers are technological tools.

>>945359

Yeah well all I was originally saying is that technology could be good in principle.

Well then classic rock/metal is technology and mostly white people but maybe you also classify this as nigger music

>>945288

Wait did the redtext syntax change or something?

>>945105

Calling people boomers has been a thing for years now. It's basically a TRS thing from what I can gather.

>>945109

Steam is accepted because "it just works" and I pay $2 for a game I want to play and have it ready to go in 10 minutes at most. Steams DRM isn't getting in the way of anything like Origin or Uplay does. It "just works" and that means people are willing to accept it.

You have to make compromises in this fucked up world and frankly Steam isn't a hill to die on.

>>945362

I agree, technology can be good for society, if this society respect nature and have at its center spirituality. But for our society, that only consider profit, it just can't be good.

>Well then classic rock/metal is technology and mostly white people but maybe you also classify this as nigger music

Guitar exists since very long time, so I don't understand why you're talking about that. The current evolution of music is from my point of view, incredibly chaotic (post rock for example). It represents the current monstrous existential crisis, and the "true state" of our world, right now. So I don't know how I should judge that. I was more talking about, you know, rap music, pop music, which is just "everything is awesome" or "it feels good to be a gangsta" kind of music.

>>945372

Because classic rock was produced with technology like electric guitars, amplifiers, and distortion/overdrive.

>>945372

Music is a propaganda tool. Ever since man started to sing to his children to warn them of the dangers in the world it's been used this way. You can judge the state of a society by it's propaganda and how it effects the people.

That concert bombing is a good example. No one cared this brown whore was singing about riding "dick bicycles" to their 10 year old little girls. But they cared about someone exploding near them for all of a week when it allowed them to get a free better concert.

Music isn't organic, there is no "spirit of the people" making it exist. It's all controlled by shadowy people wanting to push narratives and behaviour.

>>945387

This. Steam is fucking retarded. Buying virtual items on the internet is fucking retarded. The CD key model for its faults was massively superior. Even if we just pretend cd keys are a product, it's still better than Steam since all your games don't get stolen in one go. And beside that Steam was always a garbage piece of software. For some reason (hmm I wonder why that might be) all the Gaymer shit has unbelievably terrible GUIs. For example AMD Catalyst control panel has been shit for 1 or 2 decades, and all modern gaymes have utter slow/clunky/"premium" menus that make you want to smash your keyboard, as does Steam.

>>945387

The EULA doesn't effect me you retard who can't format a post properly.

I can go on steam now and buy a game, play through it and have zero issue.

Other than having to go to the bathroom or get some food I have a seamless experience from cradle to grave vidya wise.

This means "it just works". No one reads EULAs, they're rarely if ever used. Welcome to reality where no one reads the fine print and shits themselves over it like you do.

If you're so concerned about having about all this shit then you wouldn't be using the internet at all. You would be living in a cave making fire with sticks and rocks because everything else requires you interact with DRMed utilities along the way.

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>>945391

Buying a virtual item isn't an issue when it's disposable income. I don't plan to replay most the games I play and any I care about I can get a hard copy or burn a DVD of a pirate version.

>>945395

>Posts pedophile images

Well there we go folks. Yet another pedophile outing themselves.

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>>945341

You would never get away with shit like this on cuckchan. People are actually fucking redpilled on the state of this world. Say it with me.

EVERYTHING IS SHIT NOW

>>944635 (OP)

Normies get to the internet, internet get mainstreams. Big companies decided to bet on old franchises because pseudo-nostalgia from the normies who discovered video game through twitchTV.

Mainstream needs regulation, internet is getting regulated -> Some big sites change, some other disappear, even the pr0n got corrupted.

But this has nothing to do with /tech/. The tech is still improving, there is still stuff to discover. Sure we're getting at the limit of Metcalfe's law or Moore's law. Sure, we may have approach our new technology in other ways that would have been more... glorious. But less lucrative.

But no it's not the end, it's just getting less interesting at some levels because too many people are getting influenced for no good reason. I still like to see the newest hardware components or the improvements of some OS, some softwares, and some indie games. If you don't like what you see, create something that suits you.

>>945406

> I find it hard to believe there are still men on this board who are not aware of this simple, common truth to life in CY+3

That's why it's one of the most based boards on the site. Redpills everywhere. Sadly there are other boards who have been fed poz and are accepting kosher ideals. Example:

>>>/v/15180948

>>>/v/15160314

>>>/v/15183026

>>>/v/15162102

Just to name a few examples

>>945411

>some OS

Literally where? It's all gone to shit

>some softwares

See above

>and some indie games

Literally all invariably shit. Go circlejerk your le artsy pixel 8bit retro gayme XDDDDDD back on cuckchan.

>>944635 (OP)

I can't tell whether you're a bitter oldfag, or merely pretending to be one as a tool to enable you to feel jaded and edgy.

People tend to waste the time that isn't exhausted in survival. There are simply new and different ways to do that.

Whether it's carving impossibly-proportioned women out of bone, sacrificing to Zoroaster, playing an acoustic guitar in a public space, or silently shouting into the digital void like we're doing, there acts are fundamentally the same. Time and resources are exhausted in order to produce something of dubious quality.

>>945411

>If you don't like what you see, create something that suits you.

This is the biggest joke imaginable. Who the fuck has a million dollar manufacturing plant just laying around? My options are do nothing or get China to do it who will fuck up half the production and then steal my design and sell it for half the cost under Chung Wang brand and undercut me.

>>945427

He's a cuckchan shitposter, what did you expect?

When I was a kid I could fire up QBasic and make myself giggle with a loop and a print statement. Now I've got 99% of human knowledge at my fingertits and I spend my time talking to you faggots and scowling. Something went very wrong.

>>945432

QBasic hasn't gone anywhere. Just fire it up and do something fun again.

>>945415

>those linked threads

The shilling is fucking real. You know what to do, /tech/.

I actually saw something similar to this lever of redpill on /co/, but the cuckmods deleted the thread because their feelings got hurt. 8chan is compromised asf.

>>945388

You're wrong to include all of music, but right to point every modern music.

The point of traditional music is meditation, and reflexion (and beauty ofc).

The point of classical music is pure, nearly mathematical beauty. But empty of any sense.

Then, it's what you're saying. The degeneracy continue. Less and less beautiful, more and more chaotic, and the meaning begin to be what you're talking about. Propaganda, consumption, paganism.

>>945401

see >>945303

>>945303

We can start by fucking up the shit out if the shill threads for all the nu-shit, like in the threads linked in >>945415. Everything is shit now, and anyone who doesn't see this does not belong with our kind, and shall be escorted back to reddit and cuckchan. We will not let our status as having the most redpilled, highest standards on the internet go tarnished.

If there's any shilling threads you feel need to be brought attention to, please alert us and we'll be on our way.

>>945432

Nothing went wrong. You have become redpilled like we are.

The golden rule that all who browse 8ch should follow: Everything is shit now, and we will not accept anyone who believes otherwise

>>945415

Found another one

>>>/v/15160351

>>945481

THIS

This is why I keep saying we can't do anything about it. They already have the upper hand over us, and can not be closer to enacting their master plan on us. We have lost the war once and for all. 5G will be our death, and Google shall murge with all to make the ultimate Skynet.

>>945484 was >>945481

>>945483

You're right, but it's not inescapable, at a local level. No one force you to use IoT. No one force you to use google.

They can't force literally everyone. But they'll certainly get the 95% of people.

>>945488

>But they'll certainly get the 95% of people.

When they do that, it will be inescapable.

They fucking won, and everyone ITT is coming to terms with this ultimate blackpill.

This is the most redpilled thread /tech/ has ever had

>>945482

>>945415

Also >>>/v/15185699, not tied to any game specifically, definitely fucking reeks of FotM indie shilling

>hahahaha look it looks like le old cartoons that my le 30 year old boomer dad likes XDDDDDDDDDD

>>945484

>24 GHz

Shit nigger

Get ready for a million antennas everywhere.

that frequency loses 120dbu in 1000 meters

>>945476

We need to do something about that here. >>>/mu/ micht need looking into, some of these threads seem shill af.

>>945499

*might

>>945280

I've met Big Sister, she's black.

>>945501

Of course she is

>>945415

>>945482

Since I got banned for outing a indieshit game shill I rarely go to that shithole.

>>945504

Iktfb. But with bigger numbers like the redpilled people ITT, we can manage to fuck them up even harder for sweet revenge. What do you say?

>>945505

I think that we need to gather more boards

/v/ is a big one.

>>944635 (OP)

>Any one else just grown to utterly despise technology but it's so inbuilt into who they are there's no real way to disconnect from it without completely restructuring their lives?

i don't despise it, i'm indifferent. i could get by without a smartphone, but it affords me too many luxuries, such as not needing to boot my computer to do barebones basic things like checking my schedule and wiring money. and i can make phone calls :^)

>>945509

>i don't despise it, i'm indifferent.

Fuck off and kill yourself.

>i could get by without a smartphone,

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>945508

Boards like /pol/ lines up pretty fucking well with out ideas. We can start another thread here dedicated to cleansing and ruining the lives of those who don't uphold our golden rule. I think we can start by giving our collective a name that can instill fear on those who dare go against us.

>>945511

*our ideas

>thread full of 30 year old boomers complain about modern shitty gaymes

/tech/ - videogames and politics

>>945514

It's perfectly justified though.

>he doesn't want to track down those who are too fucking soylent to pay attention to 8chan principles and completely fuck up their lives

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>>945483

Paid shills like (You) are proof that they haven't won at all, for if they'd won there'd be no need to endlessly parade their apparent "victory" on an obscure anti-semitic ancient cambodian poetry forum.

What the fuck is this samefaggot /v/child thread?

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Where are the fucking mods?

>>945520

We're not /v/children, we're just a group dedicated to taking down those who don't follow the fucking standard that has been implemented in the chans since fucking 2007.

>>945524

Everything since 2007 has been shit.

>>945527

Exactly. That's why we're here, and that's something that everyone on this site should agree on, had it not been for shill cucks. Let the fucking cleansing begin.

kikeshills dropping niggerpills ITT

>>945527

it's because you LOST THE GAME

>>945036

Holy shit

>>944718

Unabomber was a kike psyop to discredit anti technology/back to nature sentiments.

>>945342

>Vehicles: Now have 100KLOC firmware in them. Result: They have RCE vulns that allow you to control someone's car by connecting to it's mobile IP address and exploiting the servers on it, jumping from the shitty "smart" web software to the ECU. Other results: cars crash more often for no reason due to software bugs. upcoming: even buggier "self-driving" cars with 100x the vulnerabilities.

>100k LOC

Lolno it's much better than that.

According to wikipedia on the subject of car software :

>On Feb. 8, 2010 the NHTSA and NASA concluded the electronics were not to blame after reviewing the electronics and electromagnetic interference. The finding was based on studying over 280,000 lines of software coding on nine vehicles involved in earlier sudden acceleration incidents.[201] And studying the throttle systems at NASA's Langley Research Center and Chrysler's Auburn Hills headquarters.[29]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls#Electronic_throttle_control_system

280k LOC ran in 2010 in the safe Proc of a car. Now we are almost 10 years later and the kind of programmer that led to such disasters are running around, perhaps even more frequently, especially given the shortage of such workforce in some countries. (EU and Switzeland in particular). It is more than a possibility that very important design decisions will be taken by non experienced rookies.

The bonus is that is the safe proc (generally a dual Proc system that sync with each other for important decisions). It will not control a GUI or the web connections to the home server.

For that there is the "non safe part". Aka an Additional proc that takes care of all that shit. If you hear about some car manufacturers wanting to run containers and other insanities in a car, it will be there.

I do not know how big that code base will be. But i know that everything will be done there that can be even remotely imagined, from on board Bluetooth to video control for the passengers. And it will be coded as if nothing that runs on that system can affect the safe part of the car. That assumptions has already been proved wrong multiple times by the remote control of cars by hackers.

Enjoy your smartcar Anon, you could perhaps get a painless death from it !

>>945559

onboard bluetooth is 2000s tech

>>945427

Well if you don't feel like trying for yourself, just go back to the old tech. Launch some old games, play till you die or survive what you think is the end of the golden era.

>>945554

8chan is a psyop to discredit the schizophrenic sentiment

>>945427

This is supposed to be a long term project that has a 10 year time frame from purchasing the land to the finished result.

>>945562

and 2000s cars are shit

>>945612

Don't you mean autism my fellow glow in the dark?

I may have misjudged.

I'm going to remove the bumplock, but try to maintain some quality in the discussion.

>>944635 (OP)

>As I kid I fucking loved technology, it was always improving and we were seeing massive leaps in what machines were capable of doing. We went from the Atari 2600 all the way up to the PS2 and then everything just seemed to stagnate. Technology no longer improved as much as it just sort of polished things a bit better.

In some ways, technology has gotten worse. Some "modern" languages like Java don't even trap on overflow. Doing it wrong has become normal. Technology will only improve when there are new hardware architectures because today's PCs and phones are too complicated for anyone to write an OS from scratch. It never used to be this way, and game consoles held out a lot longer than PCs did. Programs that used fit on a floppy disk now need millions of lines of code plus third-party libraries and 60 million lines of broken bullshit underneath. Linux needs more code for design flaws like panics, OOM killers, and EINTR than Multics and ITS did to do things the right way, not to mention that Multics did much more than Linux and was more secure too.

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=300

>The GUI of my 4MHz Symbolics 3620 lisp machine is more responsive on average than that of my 3GHz office PC. The former boots (into a graphical everything-visible-and-modifiable programming environment, the most expressive ever created) faster than the latter boots into its syrupy imponade hell. And this is true in spite of an endless parade of engineering atrocities committed in the name of “speed.”

There are times when I feel that clocks are running faster
but the calendar is running backwards.  My first serious
programming was done in Burroughs B6700 Extended Algol.  I
got used to the idea that if the hardware can't give you the
right answer, it complains, and your ON OVERFLOW statement
has a chance to do something else.  That saved my bacon more
than once.

When I met C, it was obviously pathetic compared with the
_real_ languages I'd used, but heck, it ran on a 16-bit
machine, and it was better than 'as'.  When the VAX came
out, I was very pleased: "the interrupt on integer overflow
bit is _just_ what I want".  Then I was very disappointed:
"the wretched C system _has_ a signal for integer overflow
but makes sure it never happens even when it ought to".

>>945831

based

>>945831

This guy needs to distinguish between latency and data throughput. Today's computers have far superior data processing throughput and latency. Today's software platforms also have an exponentially greater amount of processing requirements resulting in a computer experience that feels sluggish when compared to the computers of the past. You could install (or otherwise recreate) those ancient software and your computer experience will be the same as the old times. It is very possible to refactor today’s software and software platforms such that it feels super responsive to the inputs given. In addition, the software can be refactored such that it feels much faster to get to business.

>>945831

This second quote is true as fuck. A long time ago I wrote some X11 GUIs in _Haskell_ and even then, they immediately felt massively faster and more responsive than any of your typical modern software such as Gnome, which are typically written in C or C++.

>>945836

>This guy needs to distinguish between latency and data throughput. Today's computers have far superior data processing throughput and latency.

you mean at a hardware level, right?

>Today's software platforms also have an exponentially greater amount of processing requirements

You'd think that until you write a wrapper around libjpeg and instead of the usual 5-30 second startup time your typical modern software has, it starts up in a few milliseconds, and pans images with 0-16ms input latency instead of the usual 32-1500ms of modern software. I'm assuming you're talking about the requirements for viewing a jpeg as opposed to the requirements for executing a piece of shit jpeg viewer like gthumb.

>>945765

Thank you based mod.

So what's the status on the threads linked in >>945415 >>945482 >>945493 ? Have we been successful in neutralizing the shilling with our redpills?

>>945958

*based vol

>>945085

>Fictional money which came from no where isn't a positive.

that includes your pretend money in the bank as well as your cash

>>945072

>>the entire vidya genres of MOBA and Battle Royale as well as planetside-type FPS, dozens or hundreds of players in active physics-based PVP at once

I didn't notice this retarded point was there until was quoted again. Most games break down once more than 10 players go near each other. For multiple reasons such as:

>too much load on server and client

>player movement looks even worse than normal because you can see how each player moves at different rates than the ones near them, with different amounts of packet loss, jitter, judder, etc

this most certainly includes fortnite and the other even shittier-coded games like PUBG. in fortnite in 50v50 mode, when you look at the enemy team it's just a slideshow at 1 frame per second because the server is "being efficient" by not sending you more updates. multiplayer game network code has not advanced since the 90s. and why would you think otherwise when we're talking about the industry driven by a bunch of kids with ADHD and OCD

>>944837

>Daily reminder that Fakebook is now so fucking used and required in modern society that even gettin a fucking job requires it

No. Maybe if it's some soft-skills-as-primary, semi-managerial one, but these jobs are for normies anyway

Our influence is working

>>>/v/15181013

>>946051

>thread was deleted

Nothing is sacred to board kike.

>>945554

Well, it didn't work, since he credited it with more. Think ted's brand of anprim vs. cuck anprims who eat the whole "primitive communism" meme

>>944981

Bingo. Never needed social media for a job. Not saying there aren't cucked companies and/or managers that search for your profiles and find it suspicious you don't have one, because there are...but I don't fuck with those employers, nor do I give a shit. More than anything, you have to get off your ass and (((network))) to find a decent job, but that means face-to-face, not via muh social media.

The only good jobs I've obtained were through other people recommending me.

>>944918

That already was written about. I remember reading a book where the bad guys did that, it had an eye in the cover but can't for the life of me remember the name, it was some pulpy stuff, at the level of Dan Brown books, so nothing truly mindblowing. Also apparently Heinlein wrote about it too.

>>946090

On the flipside, if your job requires a social media account, you DO NOT WANT that job.

>>944871

Military and Banks were a huge part of the office PC and internet design.

This is all as the funders intended, despite the academic founders who thought they could somehow trust corporations and killers

>>945019

>Your bluepill isn't so relevent now, is it? Once again, a reminder that there is no fucking stopping this future, and much of /tech/ has come to terms with that.

Maybe for consumers, you know, people whose only experience is web 2.0 dog shit. In the corporate world we still have workstations and servers, because some corporations (not all or even most) still provide value and have to create things. Consumers don't want to create. The people who want to create do, and they can do it on workstations whose specs would seem incomprehensible a decade ago.

You are all concentrating on consumers, because deep down I think you just might be that. You are having these feelings because you can tell your technology is being neutered and being turned into a generic drone that is infertile. There is no fix from your point of view, and there is no problem from my point of view.

Let us say you are correct and that it is an irresistible future; what have you done while you still could? tell me that before lamenting the loss of what you won't be allowed to do in the future.

>>946414

The creative side of things is being dumbed down as well. You're so smug because you haven't paid attention to the shit going on around you.

We'll use Adobe as an example here as it's an easy one.

>Used to use photoshop

>You installed it and it ran

>Install a modern photoshop

>It won't run without adobe creative cloud

>It tries to upload all your shit to the cloud

>It monitors you using the program

>It phones home in order to check keys every time you use it

>It phones home and forces updates

The creative industry is no better than the consumer industry is. This sort of behaviour is universal. I am someone who does create things and I've noticed how much harder it is to get a tool that just works with no bullshit. A lot of computing power is now going to background non-sense rather than the main functional program. And this is baked right into the package, you cannot get around these packages. In some cases the only option for a professional tier product is to license it on a yearly basis. Not "you buy the 2018 version and it's yours for life" but "you rent the software for a year and we'll force you to update it every time we do".

I would also laugh at you for saying corporate are productive and provide value but that's more of a /pol/ topic.

>>946418

We aren't going to agree, you see a problem, and I don't. My only question left is a simple one and you seem bright enough to answer it.

Let us say you are correct and that it is an irresistible future; what have you done while you still could? tell me that before lamenting the loss of what you won't be allowed to do in the future.

>>946418

And of course, hopeshills will ignore this, despite how correct your statement it, because sticking their heads in the sand is the only thing they know how to do.

The blackpill is fucking eternal. There is nothing you cucks can do about what is about to happen. Conform or be vaporized.

>>946426

I've told you at least three different times that your psyop is annoying; you clearly don't fit in here.

>>946424

>what have you done while you still could

Absolutely fucking nothing, because it's a fruitless endeavor in which all paths lead to the same bad ending. The only thing we ourselves can do is sit smugly, watching those who tried to fight it moping and sobbing in their corners and wondering how the multi-trillion dollar corporations have managed to take them down so easily.

>>946427

>discussion about a realistic future that makes me uncomfortable is a psyop

Whatever you say.

>>946424

>I'm not going to agree with you even when presented with a clear problem.

That's fine. You don't need to agree with me. You can be wrong until you do.

>>946430

Until then, we can just sit back and watch him spin his wheels trying to rationalize his current situation. He'll come over to our side eventually, denial is only the first step to acceptance.

>>946431

I don't know who the fuck you are but I want you to leave me alone. Don't give me a (you), don't steal my garbage and don't fuck my wife's son. Understand?

>>946418

>I am someone who does create things and I've noticed how much harder it is to get a tool that just works with no bullshit.

Giving up the dream is the only option.

>>946430

Fair enough. I guess that makes my question out to be; who is it a problem for? If admitted ardent power users are so non nonplus about it it hardly seems much to worry about.

>>946438

>If people who aren't tech minded don't have a problem with it then it's not a problem

Guess the only problems in the world is when facebook is offline then.

>>946437

Depends on what you create, homeboy above used photoshop as his argument against me and that is not what I meant by beaing creative. According to the current trend bloggers and youtubers are "creatives", which is hardly my definition.

>>946439

>ardent power user

>facebook

I meant you. Why are you so taken aback by this current trend? How does it really effect you? I asked what would you do before it is too late, as in; what would you do with what you have now that is arguably better than what will be available in the future?

Why are you guys putting all of your eggs in one basket? Something you realize as you get older is that _everything_ goes to shit; no exceptions. If technology gets ruined, fucked if I care -- I will just move on to my other interests, like mathematics, world cinema, western art music, autonomous living, and 19th century literature. If you're really so boring and one-dimensional that technology is your "life" my kiebitzen is a reality check.

>>946440

>People using modern image editing software don't also use social media to network because jobs are in short supply

Are you retarded? If you want to work in any creative industry social media is now 100% required to get any where. People only hire from people who are either super famous or are known to them. You either network on social media or you use it to build a fanbase who then viral market you every where.

What would I do better? I'd ban idiots like you from the internet. It would make people admit when they were wrong and not try to intellectually masturbate their way out of it. Is your plan to see if I make a typo and then act smug about it?

>>946442

>I'd ban idiots like you from the internet

Since you are willfully playing ignorant to avoid the true question I just have to assume that you are saying it all comes down to not wanting to engage in any way with society and using technology to accomplish this. That, or I imagine it would be a lot harder to hide your kiddie porn stash in this future you paint as bleak.

Since you are being elusive, I guess that means our time is up. See you, space cowboy.

>>946443

>Losing an argument

>Call the other guy a pedo

>While referencing the most pedo centric art form in modern society.

I shall take that as meaning you surrender.

>>946444 (checked)

Indeed. This behaviour is expected of bluepilled cucks like him. He knows we're right and is now continuously denying it so that he can keep his head in the sand.

>>945484

this is proprietary? or not?

i remember hearing that it has potential for becoming a mini meshnet though i have a bad feeling about 5g being safe

>>946449

>>946444

You abdicated when you refused to rejoin. Learn the standards of debate before making yourself a larger fool.

>>945484

>Blue and white logo

Shlomo does it again

>>945000

>cloud and license based.

If your even remotely /tech/ish this isnt an issue for you. Dumb fucks with cash to burn is not an existential horror like you seem to feel it is, its opportunity.

The samefaggotry in this thread is fucking amazing, how can someone be so dedicated?.

>>945484

>matter of national interest

Yes.

>next level of mass surveillance

Yes.

>its the jews

Nah, any sane man want's to keep 5g and future gen cellular tech in American hands. not only for surveillance but financial gain. If Huawei came out with the exclusive rights or corporate loyalty of all 6g providing companies it would be a disaster globally for american economics. Also not saying it aint the jews, just that its the correct thing to do.

>>945336

This has been done by someone somewhere. Guaranteed.

I used to generally enjoy using Apple products, but now it has gone down hill very fast in recent years. And sadly, for a laptop I hate all of the alternative operating systems.

>>944846

This is just what they're calling being black pilled. I agree a lot is shit right now but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do anything. Sites like these still exist (although I wouldn't call 8ch super high quality but it is a step beyond 4chan) you can create your own sites, form new cultures and communities. As for the problems in general and not just /tech/ I think ejecting from the system and becoming as self sufficient as possible is good for people strong and clever enough to do it. Then find like minded people and do a small community. A problem is how shit everyone is but thinking like this just makes you another shitty person.

>>947864

just set up a tor irc chat and be done with it

you'll see, all people in this thread are larping

this so called community will die in a few weeks

>>944635 (OP)

pol is degenerate

proof: this post

>>948037

More on this here: http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-8b.shtml

The site might be titled "beyond vegetarianism", but it's 100% correct and all studies are listed.

>>944635 (OP)

>Instead of having cool games to play on it the internet is now watching someone else replay the same old game over and over or seeing some cam whore play the latest bland as fuck skinner box.

No you're wrong!!!! We can unlock new skins in Fortnite by completing challenges! We could never have dreamed about this in my grandpa's year of 2006.

>>948001

bot post

>>948039

Back to /pol/, cuck. You fail to admit aboriginals are superior in culture and intelligence to your "superior" race.

>>948042

He is right though, Internet was better before brown people like you came online

>>948043

I don't care about the Internet. I'm here to spread the word that all technology is unnecessary, and as a matter of fact hurtful to humans. And frankly, I'm 100% sure I'm whiter than your amerimutt ass.

>>948044

but I am not amerimutt, I am in Yurop

>>948042

You will never be white.

>>948105

At least I won't be living in delusion of being white like you, amerimutt.

http://www.primitiveways.com/agriculture.html

>Was Agriculture a Good Idea, or an Act of Desperation?

This tells you more about luddite ideology. Technology really is not crucial, it's not an improvement.

>>944635 (OP)

Almost nothing large scale is done any more unless it serves global capital. Could it be that we've hit a point where the interests of profit have become higher priority than the advancement of hardware/software? Could it be that with most people owning a smartphone, the market has been captured & now it's just a race to the bottom with an endless amount of useless-but-profitable ideas, endless callbacks to nostalgia, viewed through/played on your new device, profitably resurrected via purchases of the latest iteration?

I would imagine the ratio of ideas implemented to maximize profit vs those that are done to advance things in general are heavily skewed towards profit. Capitalism stagnates development and novelty by screening out everything that is not profitable no matter how useful or helpful it may be.

>>945464

I make stupid shit all the time but the joy is gone. I know my father and grandfathers didn't feel like boomers at 30. Maybe I should start smoking?

>>945036

Do you think we will be able to rice the shit out of it in order to have a minimalist Botnet VR® desktop ?

>>945158

That won't be for a while. We're still in the exponential phase in terms of research, and soon we'll see that in consumer products.

>>948541

You could phrase it better butt munch

Marketing now dominates computing rather than being a secondary part of it. Rather than trying to build a better machine they try to add gimmicks or change the products colour. All the money that should go into research and development is going into marketing and deciding which shade of pink/blue/yellow the next iPhone should be.

We have plenty of machines losing features or releasing broken with million dollar marketing budgets. The quality is no longer as important as the perception of quality.

>>946441

Part of the issue is that the internet and its communities are oriented around conspicuous consumption; their identity is tied up in the things they consume. If you tell them to just move on and do something else, they are going to feel that you are attacking them as a person.

I have no idea what the solution is to this though.

>>945371

>why yes I use netflix because I want a media UI and installing Kodi sounds scary, downloading whatever I want and paying whatever I want is difficult and I get frustrated.

>why yes I let my wife see Tyrone on the weekends, it means I can play Overwatch and the herpes I got isn't so bad. You have to make compromises in this fucked up world.

>>948818

>/tech/ can't see the difference between having a functional easy to use program and installing Tux racer

You can be a retard all you want. Just remember next time you buy anything with cash, credit card or bitcoin you're using a Windows system at some point in the transaction.

>>948880

kodi's windows binary is used to watch/pirate by a large segment of the normie population as it is a functional and easy to use program

lurk moar

>>944730

his believes are based on Jacques Ellul's "technological society"

>>947452

I want a car without an ECU, drive-by-wire, or any such bullshit. I will never drive otherwise. Are they even good? I don't care if it's illegal. I was hoping to learn some mechanics with my bike but it was just stolen.

>>948429

>post 2000

>Companies are making things that "have value"

In your imagination maybe

>>948880

>functional easy to use program

are you talking about fucking _Steam_ ?!? The reason people use Steam is because:

-muh friends are using it

-I need it to play CS:GO

-muh cheap games bundle that I bought because they were cheap and I will never play them

Reasons literally nobody ever has for using Steam:

-functional

-good GUI

-good at doing anything what so ever

(cont)

>all this talk about consumers being sane

Look, Fortnite has made around $300 million in profit last time I checked. The only way they can make profit is by people paying for pointless in game items like skins and emotes. Literally every kid and the nigger that egged my house last week plays Fortnite and mainly plays it just to buy skins and complete challenges.

>>945401

>EVERYTHING IS SHIT NOW

>now

everything has always been shit

>>951763

>everything has always been shit

#1 excuse of lazy fuckers. Nothing needs to be fixed if you claim it was always broken.

>>944635 (OP)

You're not alone anon. Modern technology has been completely overrun by (((them))) and they have stagnated all real progress while keeping normalfaggots interested with bread crumbs.

We live in a world where planned obsolescence and mediocrity is the norm.

>>945072

>Image

I had a text file from a game mod, and in it, some kid wrote his email address so that girls could email him if they "needed a good friend", and then added something saying that homosexuals should not email him.

>>953415

No, faggot. Modern technology (and industrial technology overall) has been MADE by (((them))). List any industrial society that is free, humans aren't adapted to the system, humans aren't forced to do surrogate activity to fulfill their basic human needs. You just can't. Technology is and was a mistake.

>>946072

Based.

>>953881

Thanks for confirming his concerns.

>>948121

>he doesn't deny being mystery meat

The amerimutt meme is there to mock people like you,

>>953990

Confirmed for illiteracy.

>>953991

Lmao, found the mad amerimutt. You realize all americans are probably 90% nigger, right?

>>954050

Why can't amerimutts realize not every place is a (((melting pot))) like their country?

>>954050

At least we're not jewish.

>>950941

tbh, you want an ECU for the fuel system, carbs are really thirsty.

>>954133

Jews are based. Funny how the "superior" white man is a controlled scum, while Jews are the richest and smartest people on earth who control them. LOl

>>953948

>he actually read all those spam posts about pills

>>954050

let me guess how you explain this: in the slave days everyone got blacked behind their husband's backs (literally >99% of everyone for this to be possible)

>>954133

You're definitely part Jew burgergaf

>>954050

I’m European, now neck yourself projecting americlap

>>954050

>everybody who disagrees with me is an American WAAAAH

>>944839

>hopefagging

stop forcing this bad meme, NSA-kun

>>953948

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>>946449

>>like us

>You are all...

protip: it's the same guy, you can recognize him instantly by the style and word choice - red/bluepill, "hopefags/hopeshills" (dumb forced meme), "we imageboard users are the only one who can see the truth", "give up it's hopeless" etc...

it's fucking embarrassing

Holy shit, the "give up hope, goyim, we *cough* they won" shilling is real.

The only route to pick a right technology is effort and sacrifice, not entertainment.

>>957296

>>957079

He's just a sad failure that has to project his weakness on everyone to feel good about himself.

He's a dependent little bitch that has to have everything made for him.

and you niggers just bumped the thread 5 times and now he will come back

>>957780

Better to keep him shitting his own designated shitting thread than have the moron wandering around the board shitting on every thread.

>>944635 (OP)

Restructure your life and quit bitching. Man up.

I have the same feelings

a lot of shit is going backwards

>>959413

Everythings downhill from here, anon. Games all went multiplayer. Music is oversaturated with shitty artists and the music album will be a thing of the past soon in favor of streaming singles. Netflix ruined movies with poorly made VOD releases that have no soul. Cartoons are no where near as well made and creative as they once were. Social media and Youtube is slowly replacing real content. Time to go outside.

>>959476

There's nothing wrong with multiplayer games. They can be fun if designed well. They're not designed well so they're a shit fest of microtransactions.

>>944747

Yeah, that thing that lets you instantly communicate with anybody on the planet, buy things without getting out of your chair, and gives you thousands of times more information than people one hundred years ago could even dream about, is worthless. This apocalyptic, angsty, everything is shit now mentality is retarded. We're seeing the rapid development of ai, we're seeing the advancement of self-driving cars, we're getting close to reaching Mars, robotics are advancing at a blistering rate. To somebody who saw the advent of the phone and refrigerators, atari to a ps2 is probably disappointing to them. It's all relative faggot. You just choose to be consumed by your own negativity. Frankly I don't give a fuck if some company is spying on me. Muh privacy fags should get off the grid. Nobody is forcing you to make an instagram account and attention whore.

>>959497

The majority of people have always been shitty and destructive. Stop looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses already.

>>959552

>white people have always been shitty and destructive

kys

>>959557

>poor people have always been shitty and destructive

Fixed that for you, and yes, it's true.

>>959558

Thank god all the white people is going to be killed now right? Less shitty and destructive white men, KILL THE WHITE MEN, KILL IT

KILL IT, KILL IT, KILL IT

>>959559

You're actually incapable of climbing out of your asshole for two seconds. Everything is race politics always all the time.

>>>/pol/

>>959550

> muh I got nothin to hide

Sure, sure. Post on mixtape.moe the entire contents of all your computers and online accounts then.

>>959563

That would require effort on my part.

>>944635 (OP)

>seemed to stagnate

You can thank software patents for that.

BREAK UP BIG TECH MONOPOLIES *~> FOSTER COMPETITION

STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP *~> FREE THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS

END SOFTWARE PATENTS *~> RESTART INNOVATION

>>957801

>I fell for the bait

Are you proud of yourself?

>>946418

Then Don't fucking use Adobe products. Or hell, if you really think you need them (which you don't) never update them.

Check out GNU Gimp, Krita, Inkscape, Pinta, and Scribus

>>959489

I don't understand how Diablo 2 is meant to be run. It runs at 25 FPS for me. It's just a blur fest. To enjoy any of the scenery you have to actually stop moving your character, or pause the game if you want to see detail of enemies. Going on a CRT removes the blur but since it's 25FPS, you get double vision or worse. How was this game meant to be run? Maybe the issue is I'm running the wrong version or incompatible OS (Windows 7). Back then lots of people still had CRTs, so they would have had the same issue as me. I don't understand how then they could have released this game and not seen anything wrong with it.

>>959550

>muh AI

>muh self driving cars

>muh amazon

>wants backdoored tech

>reddit, the post

shut the fuck up faggot. tech is shit and your stupid self driving cars will be one of the biggest man made disasters in history

>>945484

I'm currently doing my masters on 5G related tech. To be honest, I think about giving up everyday. I know that it won't change anything, but at least I could keep my peace of mind.

>>945495

But that's the point. There will be an antenna on every block

>>947411

5G will be damaging for our health. Don't be stupid.

>>945484

5G is in the the wavelength that can permanently fry and change your destroy your DNA.

>>960736

Video/account got shoah'd.

>>959490

You have awful taste. Where the fuck is serious sam?

>>959550

>I want to lock myself in a vehicle I have no control over while living in a police state they spies on me endlessly

>I want to see all the jobs replaced with robots so humanly no longer has any purpose or drive

>I opt out of all social media but everyone around me is always filming so the only way to escape is to buy land and live there alone with no electricity at all.

LOL PSYCHE! Air craft have cameras and satellites will still record your home.

>>960875

I know. I'd have three computer systems

1 - The ECU, to save fuel

2 - The Airbag CU and the airbags, to save your face

3 - DAB/FM/AM Radio, to save your sanity

I suspect I'm the only /o/ guy here, I've seen other hardware people from time to time but not many others that have fixed cars, most of /tech/ is /soft/.

>>945072

>>the entire vidya genres of MOBA

Watered down RTS as a mini-game or custom map.

>Battle Royale

"Last Man Standing" deathmatch.

> 30 year old boomers

>Baby boomers (also known as boomers) are the demographic cohort following the Silent Generation and preceding Generation X. There are varying timelines defining the start and the end of this cohort; demographers and researchers typically use birth years starting from the early- to mid-1940s and ending anywhere from 1960 to 1964.

>current year + 3

>boomers are ages 54 to 78

>by age, are parents of people who are in their 30s.

Can this boomer buzzword shit stop?

>>960864

>get a job goy or you wont have any drive

don't bunch me with your retarded shit. The first of your greentext lines were perfectly valid

>>960944

ignore that guy, he's probably scrambling to get ready to go back to high school in the next few weeks

>>954147

>carbs are thirsty

Not necessarily. The increases in power and economy we've seen in newer cars have a lot more to do with computer-aided design processes than they do with computerized injection. The ability to simulate an engine makes it much easier to optimize it before even constructing a prototype. Some carbureted vehicles could get 20-40 MPG. See Hondas from the 1970s, for example.

The problem today is that most of the off-the-shelf carburetors currently available are continuations of the shittiest designs in the past, and usually go on top of engines that are not at all designed for economy. Speaking to burger carbs, Holleys are an inefficient and crude design from the 1950s that are good at going fast and absolutely nothing else. Edelbrock still produces the Carter AFB, which is a carb that OEMs stopped using in 1968 because the shitty weighted secondary air doors were a bad design that couldn't pass emissions testing even then. Edelbrock's higher end AVS is a continuation of the slightly improved design used by OEMs through 1971, but it's still not particularly excellent by any standard. It was a low cost hack to let a fundamentally flawed design limp along for a few more years until the Thermoquad was ready to replace it. It looks to me like their new AVS2 models might actually be pretty good as far as fuel atomization goes due to their redesigned boosters, but I haven't seen any real world data on that yet. Most other new carbs on the market are variations of the basic Holley design (QFT, Demon, etc.) with a higher price tag.

The Quadrajet and it's two barrel cousin the Dualjet were actually pretty efficient especially in the later years, but the Quadrajet in particular usually went on big V8 engines that were designed for either high output power or low measurable emissions levels rather than fuel economy so it never really lived up to its full potential for economy in stock applications. A lot of the 1980s models had electronic mixture feedback control on the primary side on top of an otherwise fully mechanical carburetor, which made them pretty close to a proper EFI system in terms of efficiency.

>>960875

Anything 1996 and up will be hackable to some extent. If a newer car doesn't have bluetooth or a cellular connection for OnStar, GPS maps, etc. it might be a reasonable calculated risk to drive it, but vehicles that do have any of that should be avoided. I prefer to stick with carbs or early EFI systems, personally, as it completely removes all the guesswork from the equation. These older cars are incapable of interfacing with the botnet at all. In my opinion these vehicles are also much easier to work on due to their simplicity.

>>960877

>airbag CU

Just put a couple of strategically placed buttons under the bumpers that close the circuit and energize the airbag in the event that the car is hit badly enough to seriously damage the bumper. There's no need to computerize something so simple.

I used to be a regular here, but I don't come to /tech/ very often anymore. Nobody ever talks about anything other than web browsers or linux distros, and it always seems like most people here are completely clueless when it comes to anything else. Between that and the /g/ infestation this year, it makes it hard to have a good discussion around here.

>>961098

There's also simple things like using water injection to let you run lean without burning through valves,pistons, or cylinder walls, and more exotic stuff like on board fuel reformers or capturing exhaust heat to convert it to back useful work instead of just waste.

>>960877

>ECU

Botnet that can be controlled by the OBD 2.0 system via

>DAB/FM/AM Radio, to save your sanity

Which has internet access via DAB. If using FM/AM then you can be listened in on just like the germans in WWII were.

>The Airbag CU and the airbags, to save your face

This I agree with if it is faraday caged and on its own internal system and battery for safety and security purposes.

>>960875

The ECU is fucking botnet because if you direct enough radio waves as to EMP the ECU your whole car gets (((shut down))). Common street police have these radar guns that can shut your ride down because they feel like it. That's if you are stupid enough to be caught inside a vehicle made after 1996.

>>961105

Or the big one no company will ever implement. Misting the gasoline into the engine as to increase fuel effeciency greatly. As in gasous form you don't need as much of it to get the proper compression ratio for fuel effieciency. You do realise that kikes pay these big companies not to increase the fuel effieciency so that gasoline remains inflated in price, right?

>>961163

Actually, pretty much all modern fuel injected gasoline engines spray a very fine mist of gasoline on to the top/back of the hot intake valves, which completely vaporizes the fuel.

>>960849

It's mysteriously back now.

>>961098

The carbs are inherently thirstier by the fact that injection gets cut off if your car can keep going with the momentum., the carb uses the vacuum created by the cylinders to suck fuel, and that vacuum is there all the time.

This means that when going downhill carburated cars use fuel and injected cars don't.

And I would computerize the airbags just for the fact that a misfire costs shitloads of money on interior repairs, they break everything around them to save you from smacking your head into hard stuff.

also 961163 doesn't know shit and is just LARPing, ignore him.

>>961252

>that vacuum is there all the time.

If the throttle is closed you just have the idle jets adding fuel on a carb. In fuel injection you just have the injectors decreasing enough to do the same thing.

>>961252

https://youtube.com/watch?v=q_XX3QpKsZM

I suggest you watch this video on how carbs work. It's old, but it was one of the best ones I ever saw when I was learning about them back in the day.

>>961265

>>961268

I know how carbs work.

They still let some fuel in when the butterfly is closed, if you look at them a lot have a small hole drilled to help with idling, and even then you have to adjust the screw that keeps it a little bit open to let the mixture in, otherwise you would stall everytime you wanted to idle, the computer controlled injectors cut off the fuel entirely as long as the car is rolling and on gear, effectively keeping the engine spinning with the momentum of the car (also engine braking), if the revs drop below some threshold it starts injecting again.

The mechanical carburator doesn't have this possibility, it keeps the throttle butterfly open at all times, sucking fuel even if it doesn't need to.

That's why an injected car will consume less fuel, and a lot less if you know how to exploit that.

>>961272

t. owns a 200hp car that does 38 mpg, 47 if I'm even trying.

I don't think I'm even clinically depressed, I'm just immune to the distractions at this point. Everything is a sinister illusion, a draining succubus of hedonist design, and the reason we're unhappy is because most people are end-users and see nothing beneath the surface.

All they care about is that it works. And that's really what changed, we 've been dragged down by the common denominator. We've had to reduce technology to serve a fucking idiocracy. Technology is walled off for our safety, the fight for free software was lost in the 90s.

No longer are the goals to do something new or interesting, like create free cell service or mesh network communications, even fucking VR headsets can't be PnP'd as displays for that authentic cyberpunk feel.

You need an app, a colorful pad of buttons that does all the work for you and tracks everything you're doing to make sure you don't fuck anything up like the moron you are, all the while making a pretty penny off your meta-data.

It's about how many filters you can put on your ugly face, how many narcissistic screams you can throw out and how many numbers and silly icons flood back. It's instant feedback, instant gratification, computerized complacency. The worst is that the streamlining makes it so a mastery of cracking is necessary to do even the most rudimentary edits on modern systems and phones. Things like kingoroot being a NECESSITY, there's a BIOS it just has no fucking options. How is anyone supposed to learn anything?

The people, in all their hideous normalniggetry, have managed to turn a tool for trading eye-opening and enlightening information ACROSS THE WORLD, an infinite library of anything you want to learn and do, into a daycare.

The only machine that respects our freedoms at this point is a revolver. Point it at your head, run trigger.exe and shut down, man.

>>961272

I will concede that EFI does have the ability to completely cut fuel flow when such behavior is desirable. In theory it should be possible to do the same thing by abusing an idle stop solenoid to completely close the throttle plates when coasting, though this has never actually been done to my knowledge. If we're avoiding computer control, the obvious way to manage this would be clicking the solenoid off when the throttle is fully disengaged and engine vacuum rises above a certain threshold that is not seen at idle, probably around 20-25 inHg depending on the engine.

This is all hypothetical, of course. Implementing such a system would require tracking down a few obscure parts, fabricating what isn't available and possibly also modifying the carburetor's idle circuit depending on how it was designed. It's probably more trouble than it's worth.

>>945000

Intel has already been touting their planned future processors with 5G onboard, not only will this be the ultimate backdoor but it will enable them to do as you say. What we really need is a very public gigantic cloud infrastructure hack / failure so that the idiot normalfags can see that entrusting their data to the cloud is foolish. And with the current state of Intel and its terribly insecure products, it's coming.

>>961787

(1)

Hi FBI, bored today?

>>961830

He kind of has a point if you are going to kill yourself anyway no?

>>961834

Nah it's just typical LEO bait / entrapment talk, serves a dual purpose of portraying this board as being full of unstable terrorists as well.

Gotta justify your existence in between your false flags and all that.

>>961839

>blackpillfag says it's all over

>anons post solutions to free us from the botnet

>dur hur it's the FBI/ATF/CIAniggers

>just eat a bullet instead it's the only way

>>962063

Ok. There's moe to it than that. Most of those types of supercarbs use heating to thermally catalytically crack the fuel, esentially working as an on board reformer. Just vaporizing the fuel like you're saying gives only a modest boost due to fractionating the hydrocarbon blend that is gasoline.

In modern engines, the injected fuel is sprayed into the back of the hot intake valve, then it is adiabatically compressed, further heating and vaporizing it. That's why engine knock is a thing. I've been obsess with supercarbs since I was a kid. It's one of the first things I discovered when I first started using the internet back in the day. The secret to all of them is the cracking. The Pogue carburetor, the Ogle carburetor, all of them. When they hot hydrocarbons come into contact with the right metals they are catalytically broken down into simpler compounds like methanol, carbon monoxide, and hydrogen. This is where these carburetors get their efficiency. Fuel additives tend to not break down well, and slowly coat and poison the catalyst over time. That's why you so often hear stories of the devices not working after awhile, and why they never pass EPA tests. They EPA just puts some extra catalyst killing additives in the test fuel, and suddenly the device doesn't work so well. If you decide to experiment with a supercarb, make sure to use something like coleman fuel, which has no additives to poison your catalyst.

IMHO one of the best ones was the MIT plasma fuel reformer. It used a gliding arc plasma instead of a metal catalyst to break down the fuel. The electricity could easily break down the additives.

>>962070

hydrocarbons in its base element is only hydrogen and carbon, the carbon is useless but needed because it traps large amounts of hydrogen.