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Mozilla is removing 'meritocracy' from their governance docs because meritocracy is 'problematic'
https://archive.is/z4CHE
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.governance/OQlS6-gUBLQ/u0Em5XKjCAAJ
tl;dr SJWs get triggered by meritocracy as niggers and people with untreated mental problems can't code for shit and can only compete if they get more points for not being white.
The discussion is still ongoing but it wasn't started by some low-ranking faggot so they'll probably remove it.
With this anti-quality trend continuing we may end up like in the days when there was simply no free alternative to most closed-source software, and instead of Microsoft's tactics finally succeeding it'll be because we accepted every pull from LaShaniqua without checking if it works first.
>The use of the term “meritocracy” to describe communities that suffer
>from a lack of diverse representation is increasingly seen as
>problematic: it proceeds from an assumption of equality of opportunity.
>There is now quite substantial evidence [1] as well as opinion [2] that
>we should challenge this usage.
>It asserts that people’s contributions are what
>counts, not their employment affiliation or the personal relationships
>they may have. I believe we are able to acknowledge that this approach
>remains imperfect. Mozilla does support other measures (through
>outreach and recruiting, policies and process improvements and tooling)
>that can help address the biases inherent in a system where people gain
>authority based on their past delivery.
>To sum up:
>-Declaring Mozilla to be a de facto “meritocracy” fails to acknowledge
>evident bias in representation in the project.
>-The word “meritocracy” itself has become a bone of contention which is
>unhelpful to us.
>-Meritocractic principles remain highly desirable and should be explicit.
>-We should also acknowledge the importance of measures we take to debias
>how authority is distributed.
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If someone 20 years ago had said tech companies would wage a war against meritocracy I'd have thought they were tin foil hat tier crazy. And yet here we are. Kill Jews.
▶ No.920724
They just keep finding more ways to lose. Nerds don't care about any of this stuff, only some combination of performance, security and privacy. It's best to ignore Mozilla now, and let them die their slow death.
▶ No.920729>>920731 >>920774 >>927403
Anyone who advocates for the removal of meritocracy and in favour of diversity should be forced to get surgeries only in hospitals that follow the same ideals. Good luck with your gender-reassignment when it's carried out by Dr. Laquisha.
▶ No.920731>>920774
>>920729
Did you see that video going around of Dr. Negress twerking in the operating room?
▶ No.920736>>920759 >>920761 >>920789 >>920801 >>921165 >>928612
>Our marketshare is dropping and shows absolutely zero signs of improving
>What should do, team?
<Stop worrying about meritocracy and treat all code equally!
>BRILLIANT WATCH OUT CHROME!
▶ No.920759>>920761 >>920765 >>920773 >>921104 >>921141
>>920736
why is chrome marketshare going UP???
▶ No.920761
>>920736
When you've hit rock bottom like Mozilla has, then you lose all agency to appeal to any masses because you realize its futility, so you stop giving a fuck, run things your own way, and show your true colors
>>920759
Since that counter likely counts user agents, it could include Chromium and the like as well. A lot of non-Jewgle browsers even use Chrome user agents for some reason. But overall we know deep down Chrome is a browser that just werkz and most appeals to former IE users and normalfag-tier former FF users
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>>920759
>why is chrome marketshare going UP???
Total market share has to add up to 100%. If the market share of one browser goes down, other browser's will go up.
▶ No.920773
>>920759
Chrome isn't committing suicide at the hands of Pajeet or Tyrone's girlfriend's husband.
▶ No.920774>>921137 >>927403 >>928247 >>928450
>>920729
>>920731
Tune in next week for twerking down at the nuclear power plant.
▶ No.920789>>920794 >>920797
>>920736
This is off topic but people who make graphs like that deserve to be non-fatally shot in the groin. I'm colorblind and as a result the only fucking line I'm sure of is IE's blue one. Choose strongly contrasted colors, dumbfucks! That means light vs dark! Argghh, pastel art faggots!
On topic... let natural selection do its thing. Let Firefox die its death. We have Pale Moon to replace it, for now.
▶ No.920794
>>920789
Does inverting the colors work? If so you can run xcalib -i -a.
▶ No.920797>>920973 >>927425
>>920789
>wants special treatment for being colorblind
>mentions natural selection
▶ No.920800>>920804 >>920819 >>920964 >>921378
They're removing the word, because its meaning has recently shifted. Meritocracy now doesn't just mean judging by merit, it's become strongly associated with people who say that doing that means making no effort to adjust for biases. That new meaning is not in line with their actual policy, so it's better to drop the word.
This line is critical:
>>-Meritocratic principles remain highly desirable and should be explicit.
They're removing the label, but not the existing substance.
It's a shift in language more than a shift in policy.
▶ No.920801
>>920736
>the shitty UC browser is more used than Firefox
>Chrome is used by 3x more people than all other browsers combined
Holy fucking shit it's almost like the market has absolutely no standards and everyone embraces garbage
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▶ No.920805
>>920693 (OP)
>be international project
>impose toxic American leftist values on everyone
>claim that you did it to increase diversity
When will this shit stop?
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>>920800
He's literally immediately criticized for that and quickly backs off apologizing.
▶ No.920841>>920863 >>920907
Meritocracy is bullshit anyway, but who cares Mozilla is long dead now.
▶ No.920863>>920897
>>920841
>Meritocracy is bullshit
Then you're not cut out for a career in /tech/.
▶ No.920897>>920911
>>920863
There are people who make a career in imageboard trolling? Is this the rumored shill that I keep seeing here?
▶ No.920905
>>920693 (OP)
This is all the proof we need that Firefux is a bad browser. They allow bad programmers to contribute for affirmative action reasons. Even if you agree that affirmative action is good, it still objectively means the code will be worse. Of course to make this argument is "problematic" because it magically implies I'm racist or something even though I'm not even white.
▶ No.920907>>920965
>>920841
What do you propose instead? Feudal programming? Meritocracy is just a redundant buzzword but there isn't really any useful alternative.
▶ No.920911
>>920897
It's 300k starting, any board you want.
▶ No.920964
>>920800
>its meaning has recently shifted
Hello shlomo. Keep your grubby marxist paws away from my dictionary.
▶ No.920965
>>920907
>Feudal programming?
Works breddy gud for the Linux kernel.
▶ No.920969
>>doesnt count employment affiliation or the personal relationships
it shouldnt, its just a fucking philosophy you dumb fucks, work around it or fuck off
▶ No.920973>>921016
>>920797
The irony is pretty funny, I agree. Hopefully I won't die from the colorblindness though. :P
sage for double off topic
▶ No.921011
Sane people: We should hire people who are most QUALIFIED to do the job.
Mozilla: That's only something racists would do.
▶ No.921016>>921021
>>920973
>:P
>>>/habbohotel/
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>>921016
I'm genuinely surprised we don't have this board.
▶ No.921037>>927561 >>927565
>another /pol/tard thread
Just use Chrome if thought policing is more important to you than software freedom.
▶ No.921067>>921111 >>921126 >>921151 >>921165 >>921168 >>927649
Meritocracy is a meme, especially nowadays as social mobility is at its lowest since the end of WWII.
People born from a richfag vagina stay rich, those born from a poorfag vagina stay poor, and it doesn't matter if they are smart or retards.
If you are a smart young poorfag, your family won't be able to pay for college, daddy won't fund your business venture, you are more likely to have untreated mental illnesses, you won't travel to learn foreign languages and make contact with richfags around the world, and so on.
The only way to rise from poverty as a smart poorfag is to become an engineer, and even then you still have to work instead of paying people to make decisions about your portfolio and dining with old money in NYC or Paris, pretending to be busy. But if you don't get into STEM, your potential will likely be wasted on a menial deadend job.
We live in a new Gilded Age. If you believe that the current world order is meritocratic you are either a dumb cuck, or a trust-fund kid justifying your inherited wealth.
And Mozilla are dumb too, because they think it's a matter of peepees and skin color. The only thing that matter is what your parents and their parents had on their bank accounts when you cried as you left the comfort of your mother's belly.
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>>920693 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
▶ No.921101>>921106
This is how Open Source dies. Embrace the pork. Be the pork.
▶ No.921104
>>920759
>Why is the browser advertised on the front page of the world's most popular website used by retards going up in usage?
▶ No.921106
>>921101
Windows 10 is such a hunk of shit I wouldn't even ironically shill it.
▶ No.921111>>921114
>>921067
Guess what, intelligence mostly comes from your parents too.
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▶ No.921127>>921138 >>921237 >>921302
The only people I've met in life that had enough agency to learn programming without hand-holding or financial incentives were white, and most of them were displaced from the industry as they weren't PHD tier.
white men need to quit being doormats.
We need a big push to accelerate the destruction of the software industry.
Everyone wants you to do the hard work for free while their POC monkeys and women get paid to destroy the social order and buy more consumer garbage.
I've been thinking of a modified GPL that has intentionally offensive text in the license, so only people with a spine will use it.
▶ No.921137>>927986
>>920774
I was going to go for "no fun allowed" but I did not expect this to be made in the middle of surgeries.
▶ No.921138>>921276
>>921127
>I've been thinking of a modified GPL that has intentionally offensive text in the license, so only people with a spine will use it.
Even if I like the idea the license wouldn't be valid juridically speaking.
▶ No.921141
>>920759
>why is chrome marketshare going UP???
Multiple reasons:
-Per default browser on smartphones.
-Third party per default installation on every piece of most used software on windows (ccleaner, avira, avast, µtorrent, adobe etc....).
-No Speed Limitation when using google chrome on google websites (youtube and google search engine).
-Tons of small bullshit illusion hack to make it seem like it's faster.
If it is installed like a malware, behaves like a malware then it's malware.
▶ No.921143
looks like glow in the dark nigger infiltration
▶ No.921151>>921165 >>921181
>>921067
>People born from a richfag vagina stay rich
And richfags don't have any merit.
>People born from a richfag vagina stay rich, those born from a poorfag vagina stay poor,
We don't have the same definition of meritocracy I think.
>If you are a smart young poorfag, your family won't be able to pay for college, daddy won't fund your business venture
Yes and there's no merit to have everything spoon feed to you.
>The only way to rise from poverty as a smart poorfag is to become an engineer, and even then you still have to work instead of paying people to make decisions
Yes it's called merit of your own work.
>f you believe that the current world order is meritocratic
Nobody said that.
> you are either a dumb cuck
Please don't use that sort of emotion scheme.
> The only thing that matter is what your parents and their parents had on their bank accounts when you cried as you left the comfort of your mother's belly.
In some countries for example in France the heritage taxation is so big that you own more to the government than what you legally inherit from your family (except for very rich fags).
There is not "one" thing that only matters, the reason for "success" depends on your own expectations if you deem that having a small house off the grid with a few crops in the forest to be a successful life then it's fine for you.
Merit is not judged by what you have X but by what you have done to have X, a richfag who won at the lottery doesn't have any merit for his fortune, same for the kids who gets a few thousands from his parents.
▶ No.921165>>921175
>>921067
>Meritocracy is a meme,
Not in the way you think.
>>920736
Does this graph even cover the time FF killed their plugins?
>>921151
>work hard, die, kids start at zero
There's another term for this.
▶ No.921168>>921185
>>921067
This is irrelevant to software projects.
Meritocracy, in software project sense, means that code is judged just by its technical excellence.
Meritocracy, as defined by you, is out of jurisdiction of software projects. You should get your government to fix that.
▶ No.921175
>>921165
>There's another term for this.
I don't know it.
Not giving a hand to your offspring isn't good either tho there must me a balance between spoiling the shit out of your kids and givings them nothing.
▶ No.921181>>921272
>>921151
>We don't have the same definition of meritocracy I think.
I was describing how things are today and have always been since Ancient Greece at the very least, not giving a definition of meritocracy
>muh merit
What does 'merit' give you anyway? My mom worked her ass off all of her adult life and has a lot of 'merit' according to your metrics. What did she got in the end? Minimum wage and a broken back. Fuck 'merit'.
>In some countries for example in France the heritage taxation is so big that you own more to the government than what you legally inherit from your family
Il se trouve que je suis français et que j'ai touché un héritage une fois dans ma vie, mon gars. It's bullshit. Tax redistribution is what allowed me to go to college and get job training in tech so I won't have to work hard like my mom did, thus I won't cry if our government take 40% of your 2 millions euro inheritance. What is making me mad is that my government use all that money to give it to corrupt corporations and set the Middle-East on fire.
>(except for very rich fags)
You are getting it
>There is not "one" thing that only matters, the reason for "success" depends on your own expectations if you deem that having a small house off the grid with a few crops in the forest to be a successful life then it's fine for you.
Sure, but when you want to something DIY like this nowadays, the government will do whatever it can to push you to invest some money in useless shit. You can't build your house as you wish, even if you are bothering absolutely no one, on your own land.
>Merit is not judged by what you have X but by what you have done to have X, a richfag who won at the lottery doesn't have any merit for his fortune, same for the kids who gets a few thousands from his parents.
Yes, but when 'merit' and working hard don't give you anything more than slacking off, it's end up being an useless concept to uphold. Such is the case in our modern societies.
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>>921168
Sorry for the off-topic. I agree with meritocratic principles in software development, I just wanted to rant.
▶ No.921237
>>921127
>We need a big push to accelerate the destruction of the software industry.
That's what hackers have been doing for few decades now
▶ No.921272>>921293
>>921181
>My mom worked her ass off all of her adult life and has a lot of 'merit' according to your metrics.
Working hard isn't really "merit". If your job is something that can be done by anyone.
>What is making me mad is that my government use all that money to give it to corrupt corporations and set the Middle-East on fire.
Et transformer la France en Afrique est A-okay? Mec, y'a bien pire que les corporations. De plus, la "démocratisation" des universités les ont totalement dépossédées de toute qualité t. ancien CS de Jussieu.
Anyway, you're retarded, because all you're saying isn't that meritocracy is bad, only that you've never seen it. Doesn't mean that it's not good if you can use it (software development with a BDFL can do it easily).
▶ No.921276
>>921138
>the license wouldn't be valid juridically speaking.
You sure? What if only the defined terms are changed? Example, from the GPL;
>Each licensee is addressed as “you”.
could be
>Each licensee is addressed as “faggot”.
▶ No.921293>>921305 >>921390 >>921470
>>921272
>Working hard isn't really "merit". If your job is something that can be done by anyone.
Pas tout le monde a le mental pour aller se casser le dos dans les champs agricoles pendant deux décennies. La plupart des femmes que je vois en ville seraient incapables de faire ça. Elles péteraient un plomb au bout d'une semaine. Même moi, trois mois dans ma vie ça m'a suffit.
>Et transformer la France en Afrique est A-okay?
Okay t'es un mogol de /pol/ du coup, tu devrais prendre tes médocs.
Quand on a eu un empire colonial qui incluait le tiers de l'Afrique (et qu'on leur a appris notre langue), faut pas s'étonner que les locaux ait envie de venir profiter de nos belles villes et nos beaux salaires, plutôt que de rester dans leur bidonvilles à se faire exploiter par les Chinois. Je sais pas mais ça me semble logique.
Si ça te fait chier tant que ça de voir des Maghrébins et des blacks dans la rue, va gagner de l'argent et bouge dans les quartiers de bourge parisiens, ou pars à la campagne.
>Mec, y'a bien pire que les corporations.
Comme quoi?
>la "démocratisation" des universités les ont totalement dépossédées de toute qualité
T'es jamais allé en formation dans le privé toi. En ce moment, j'apprends à devenir dev, c'est financé à moitié par Pôle Emploi, et j'ai eu un cours sur Java où on a appris comment faire des applets, là y'a quelques jours. Je déconne pas. Et ces clampins font payer 2500 boules pour 5 jours de cours comme ça.
En plus là, qu'est ce que tu défends Macron? En ce moment, c'est le bordel, et j'ai vu qu'ils avaient mis en place un numéro vert là tout à l'heure...ça fait pitié.
J'ai jamais eu de problème avant avec admission post-bac, et jamais entendu parler d'un problème grave, et Monsieur Jupiter là vient de nous sortir une réforme de son cerveau trop complexe qui fout la merde dans toutes les facs au niveau national. Bravo. Avec une gréve des cheminots en même temps. Tu trouves que c'est bien gouverner un pays, ça?
>Anyway, you're retarded
Non c'est toi le pédé dans l'affaire
▶ No.921302>>927562
>>921127
I've used WTFPL for some stuff, like game mods.
▶ No.921305>>921314
>>921293
You should emigrate to Sweden, you'd fit right in there. That's the kind of failed state France will become if useful idiots like yourself have their way.
▶ No.921314>>921460
>>921305
Ta gueule sale pouilleux. Ça parle pas français et ça viens me dire comment gérer mon pays. Éhonté.
La gauche c'est une tradition française de toute façon. Que ça te fasse rager ou non, petite victime qui se rêve collabo, c'est la vérité.
Sur ce, je dois aller me coucher.
▶ No.921328>>921381
>it'll be because we accepted every pull from LaShaniqua without checking if it works first
>we accepted
>we
As if you were a programmer. If you were, you would simply fork it and start developing it yourself instead of crying about politics you aren't actually subject to.
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▶ No.921381>>921427 >>927566
>>921328
Yeah, and get promptly platformed for not being inclusive enough.
"Oy vey you can't write code unless fifty niggers and trannies can put their name on it and take credit for your work, goy, and even then you'll have to make a statement about how bad colonialism was"
▶ No.921390
>>921293
>Je sais pas mais ça me semble logique.
<Quelqu'un dans le passé à fait quelque chose de mal, donc les descendants des victimes ont le droit de venir parasiter mon pays.
Aucune dignité. Ta "logique" de cocu, tu peux te la rentrer bien profondémment dans le derrière.
>j'apprends à devenir dev, c'est financé à moitié par Pôle Emploi, et j'ai eu un cours sur Java où on a appris comment faire des applets
Es-tu Indien? Est-ce que tu chies dans la rue?
▶ No.921427
>>921381
Who cares? What they going to do, boycott your fork?
▶ No.921460>>927573
>>921314
France also has a tradition of being white and christian. I guess these small details are lost on you. Can't say I'm surprised.
▶ No.921470
>>921293
>Pas tout le monde a le mental pour aller se casser le dos dans les champs agricoles pendant deux décennies
De la chance de faire l'un des seuls métiers satisfaisant (fullfilling, pas vraiment de mot en français). Mais la méritocratie dans la sens politique ne veut pas dire donner le pouvoire aux paysans valeureux, et de toute façon c'est pas ce dont on parle.
>Quand on a eu un empire colonial qui incluait le tiers de l'Afrique (et qu'on leur a appris notre langue), faut pas s'étonner que les locaux ait envie de venir profiter de nos belles villes et nos beaux salaires, plutôt que de rester dans leur bidonvilles à se faire exploiter par les Chinois. Je sais pas mais ça me semble logique.
Oui, les parasites parasitent. "Logique". Nous les avons conquis par la force et sans ça, ils n'auraient jamais atteint l'âge de pierre alors que nous avons plusieurs hauts et bas pendant ces quelques milliers d'années où ils ont stagné. Si tu pense que la destruction démographique de l'Europe est juste, t'es vraiment plus con que tes pieds.
>En plus là, qu'est ce que tu défends Macron?
T'es fou? Mais oui, je parle avec des X ou des trucs comme ça, tous n'est pas à l'eau, mais l'université a définitivement perdu son status d'excellence scientifique et littéraire pour devenir une usine à diplomes.
tl;dr Kill yourself, dumb nigger lover.
▶ No.927403>>927548
>>920774
>>920729
Nice, especially when the world is moving towards socialized medicine where you don't get to choose your surgeon and are instead allocated whoever is available first unless, of course, you want to pay for insurance on top of taxes and then the surgical fee (usually still 90%-50% with insurance).
▶ No.927425
>>920797
pretty sure colourblind cunts see shit lurking in the grass better
▶ No.927548>>927555 >>927556 >>927984
>>927403
Do Amerifats have any sense of self-awareness when they make posts like this on an international mongolian knitting forum? Seriously, we all pay less than half what you let private companies gouge you for healthcare and we have to show it by living longer than you. How misinformed can you possibly be?
▶ No.927555
>>927548
You might use some of that money you're saving and take English lessons.
▶ No.927556>>927560 >>927626
>>927548
I'm Australian.
We get taxed for public healthcare which barely fucking covers anything AND if you ever have to use public healthcare you still have to pay like 50%-100% of the costs depending on what is being done, meaning you have to pay for insurance which is also ridiculously expensive and covers very little costs.
We're the public healthcare system Europe and America always look at when they talk about "success" because aboriginals get to go to emergency and and have fungus scraped off their feet for free.
▶ No.927560>>927626
>>927556
Wow. I knew Australia had some crazy financial systems in place why else would it get such terrible Internet speeds but that's whack.
▶ No.927561
>>921037
No, dumbass, the goal is to get people to Brave instead, no CoC while FOSS, you cuck.
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▶ No.927565
>>921037
It's CoC'ed no less. Google is full of soy.
See:
>>927428
>>927477
▶ No.927566
>>921381
And what if you simply ignore that?
▶ No.927573
>>921460
Present day France is black and islamic my friend
▶ No.927598
meritocracy is one of the only things hold these societies together
removing it without replacing it is NOT A SOLUTION
▶ No.927624
So? What are you going to do, use Brave?
▶ No.927626>>927633
>>927556
You dumb faggot, public healthcare covers everything you stupid faggot and it's free.
I can see GPs, specialists and dentists for free. Get surgery that would cost over 10k in clapistan for free.
I can't believe my tax dollars go to fund missed abortions like you.
>>927560
Australia got the NBN, wouldn't be surprised if its internet speeds werent better than the US at least.
▶ No.927633>>927638
>>927626
>You dumb faggot, public healthcare covers everything you stupid faggot and it's free.
You're rusing, right? I'm in one of those so called socialist utopias, and you just end up paying for retarded shitskins/nogs replacing you. It's just wealth redistribution, nothing more nothing less; meaning it only works with closed borders.
▶ No.927638>>927639
>>927633
Should have voted better instead of winging on cripplechan
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▶ No.927649
>>921067
Poor people stay poor because they use their money to buy liabilities instead of assets. Most people are like that, actually. It's just less of a problem for rich people, since they can easily afford said liabilities.
Wealth is more about your ratio of assets to liabilities than purely about money. You can be rich and broke, just as you can be poor and wealthy.
▶ No.927984>>927992
>>927548
Europeans pay for medical expenses. Americans pay for medical expenses and the R&D of the next generation of medical tech.
▶ No.927986
>>921137
The future ain't what it used to be.
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>>927984
Wow then amerifats really should step it up
▶ No.928022
THE OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITEEEEE
▶ No.928194
Are there any good forks I could use? I've been looking at Pale Moon, but it isn't really that good that the developers blocked the Ad Nauseum plugin, even if it's very easy to get around.
▶ No.928225>>928627
how about some open source community management instead of sjw dictatorship
▶ No.928450
>>920774
Hang all those niggers tbh
▶ No.928503
The accelerationist in me welcomes the quick demise of Mozilla.
▶ No.928612
>>920736
And you know what? They're going to blame anyone and anything but themselves when they finally close down.
▶ No.928627
>>928225
>community management
>sjw dictatorship
What's the difference? Every project with CoC is sjw dictatorship. Only projects with benevolent dictatorship for life have been spared.
▶ No.928631
Icecat 60 and next seamonkey can't come soon enough