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Why haven't you installed Void on your PS4 yet /tech/?
▶ No.901505
>>901502 (OP)
Why haven't you gone back to halfchan yet?
▶ No.901512>>901519 >>901597
Doesn't void allow you to completely avoid the dogshit that is bash? why are you using it?
▶ No.901519>>901542 >>901550 >>901565
>>901512
Bash has vi mode, duh
▶ No.901524>>901948 >>901994 >>902284 >>902818 >>924938
Congradulations on turning your PS4 into a 300 dollar computer with a 150 dollar Laptop AMD Jaguar APU I guess?
You could've just gotten an AMD E-series Laptop for the same specs and less money with the benefit of portability but consolefags are retarded I guess
▶ No.901542>>901576
>>901519
But anon, vi is considered harmful.
▶ No.901550>>901570
>>901519
>vi mode
It's dog shit, I've used it before and it get's the vi part correct, but it removes all the decency of a regular terminal.
But hey! vim control binds! Like how often do you really need to be jumping from start to end of text in a terminal window?
If you do need these things then you're just really slow at typing things out.
▶ No.901562
Because i don't use proprietary nip shit,.
also i've installed gentoo already.
▶ No.901565
>>901519
So does zsh, it even lets you configure it in the initial set up.
▶ No.901570>>901576 >>901961
>>901550
>how often do you really need to be jumping from start to end of text in a terminal window?
Very often. I just use ctrl+a and ctrl+e for that, though, because I'm sane.
▶ No.901576>>901583 >>901589 >>901688
What's this x86_64? I thought those consoles used MIPS. That would be the only reason for me to buy one tbh.
>>901542
vi != vim
nvi is your best bet, but even elvis is small compared to vim these days.
>>901570
Those and also ^W and ^K are handy.
▶ No.901583>>901625 >>901690
>>901576
>I thought those consoles used MIPS. That would be the only reason for me to buy one tbh.
And you live in a fucking cave, get all your knowledge from equally disconnected neckbeards who dwell in caves. When all you had to do was a 5 second search on whatever search engine you use before making retarded statements.
I mean fuck dude Sony hasn't used MIPS in a home console in nearly 18 years and in a handheld console in 14 years.
▶ No.901589
>>901576
>What's this x86_64? I thought those consoles used MIPS.
This is the average /tech/ user
▶ No.901597>>901607 >>901608 >>924670
>>901512
What is better alternative?
▶ No.901607>>924670
>>901597
Any variant of ksh (use dash for scripts). Csh and rc are also nice if you're a fan of C.
▶ No.901608>>924670
▶ No.901625
>>901583
No surprise there, I haven't bought a game console since the SegaCD. Someone did gift me a Nintendo DS, but it basically sits unused 360 days of the year, because I don't even like the NDS games. I use it only to run gameboy/gamegear emulators on long trips, basically.
▶ No.901643
I'd love to but I'm on the latest fw
▶ No.901648
▶ No.901656>>901997
I don't have a PS4 because I don't play games.
▶ No.901679
I don't have a PS4 because I play video games.
▶ No.901688
>>901576
>I thought those consoles used MIPS. That would be the only reason for me to buy one tbh.
Yes anon, and SGI is helping Nintendo create the MIPS console of tomorrow!
▶ No.901690
>>901583
I want me that fuckin' PSP
▶ No.901735>>901944 >>902586
How did you do that anon?
▶ No.901944
>>901735
It requires a kernel exploit
My brother has a PS4 but he's autistic and plays Warframe so he is always on the latest version. I want to hack his for him just so he can get free video games but he doesn't want to. Whatever, I'm not going to force him to not update his shit. I personally just play on PC though
▶ No.901946
>>901502 (OP)
>void
install gentoo faget
▶ No.901948>>901949
>>901524
>You could've just gotten an AMD E-series Laptop for the same specs and less money with the benefit of portability but consolefags are retarded I guess
That's retarded. No laptop at that price point has 8gb gddr5 and a GPU as powerful as that.
>halfchan file name
Why do I even bother?
▶ No.901949>>901999
>>901948
You do realize GDDR5 is just a variant of DDR3 right? Sony put marketing spin on the whole thing to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is. The Playstation 4 is using AMDs unified memory model. There are plenty of AMD laptops capable of 8GBs of RAM.
The PS4 basically has 8GBs of RAM. But most of it is set aside for graphics. While 256MBs of it is allocated to the OS itself
▶ No.901961
>>901570
>Very often. I just use ctrl+a and ctrl+e for that, though, because I'm sane.
This is the proper way.
▶ No.901994>>901998
>>901524
I seem to have missed all those octacore E-series laptops.
faggot
▶ No.901997>>902402 >>910810
>>901656
>playing games on your consoles
what a normalfag
▶ No.901998>>902043
>>901994
I seem to have missed the 8-core Jaguar used on the PS4. The PS4 doesn't use an octacore Jaguar. It uses 2 4 core Jaguars on one package. You fucking queer
▶ No.901999>>902429 >>917868
>>901949
>You do realize GDDR5 is just a variant of DDR3 right?
It has much higher bandwidth at the cost of much worse access latencies.
▶ No.902043
>>901998
I bet you say the same about the dual-CCX Ryzens you homosexual autist.
▶ No.902284
>>901524
The PS4's GPU is equivalent to the HD Radeon 7850
▶ No.902288
Can you even run a webkit exploit without subscribing to their spyware service? It doesnt let you use the browser without psn unlike on the ps3.
▶ No.902395>>902398
>He's still not SystemD free
Why haven't you installed Antix 17.1 - Heather Heyer yet?
https://antixlinux.com/antix-17-1-released/
▶ No.902398
>>902395
void is systemd-less, learn before you shill.
▶ No.902402>>902404
>>901997
>reading comprehension
Do you have it?
▶ No.902404>>902623
>>902402
You clearly implied that consoles are for playing games. Maybe I should have written "one's console" instead of "your console" to be clearer. Oh well. You're a faggot anyway.
▶ No.902423>>902431
I haven't installed it because the firmware the cracks work on are scalped to hell. It's a shame because it's the only way to get a computer with GDDR5 system memory. It's interesting that people have gotten the GPU working, but I guess that's due to the more standard GPUs in this console generation.
▶ No.902429
>>901999
Sounds like ye olde rambus.
▶ No.902431
>>902423
>It's a shame because it's the only way to get a computer with GDDR5 system memory.
May I ask what the fuck would you want one for? GDDR is a liability for the CPU more often than not.
▶ No.902445>>902446 >>902477 >>907098
>>901502 (OP)
>installing GNU on a BSD system
>Implying Linux is a good kernel
Haha
▶ No.902446
>>902445
>Implying GNU has ever written good software
▶ No.902477>>902483
>>902445
GNU/Linux is superior in every way, the only reason $ony uses FreeBSD is
>cuck license
To make their locked down DRM box with spyware to enable their rent seeking. It's why OP had to hack his console just to install another OS, not even Microsoft does this.
▶ No.902483
>>902477
>Communist Cuck
>Giving away your source
>muh GPL
>muh freedom
▶ No.902586
>>901735
I cheated and bought a PS4 with 1.76 firmware and ran the webkit exploit.
First had to binary patch the browser to be able to use it without logging into PSN. After that you can boot Linux from the browser so long as you have a flash drive with the kernel on it attached
▶ No.902587>>906051
OP here. Still haven't patched my DRM, Mesa, or X yet. (Work two jobs)
▶ No.902589
>>902588
Patching PS4 on PS4
▶ No.902623
▶ No.902652>>902796 >>906859
I'm still waiting for a 5.01 exploit. Going to do the same thing with the Switch when it comes out as well, shit is so cache.
▶ No.902796>>906859
▶ No.902818
>ps4 lincucks
not worth since it's fairly underpowered for a non-portable meme machine
>not switch
how much does switch cost now? $300?
holy swtich, the news about the hack 'harming privacy' is pretty retarded projection.
>no saves
wtf. the hack was worth it
>>901524
I've heard that many hackers and engineers literally use PS as their testing station or cluster. That is before fail0verflow team released exploits.
▶ No.906051
>>902587
How stable/usable is 3d acceleration? I heard its rough equivalent is 7850 but does the stock drivers work or do you have to rely on somebody else's homebrew patch?
▶ No.906859
>>902796
>>902652
<switch has coreboot so it's more closer to free than your x220 but not as free as in freedumbs as your x200 if looking sorely on the booting process
▶ No.906870>>906874 >>917694
>>901502 (OP)
>losing your games
▶ No.906874>>906885
>>906870
>not installing Steam
▶ No.906885>>906900
>>906874
>running proprietary software
▶ No.906900>>906970
>>906885
>using proprietary hardware
▶ No.906970>>906972
>>906900
>>running proprietary DNA in your cells
▶ No.906972>>906983
>>906970
>he didn't reverse engineer his DNA
▶ No.906983
>>906972
>he wasn't born with GPL'd DNA preinstalled
▶ No.906984>>906989
Why would I do that? My PS4 already plays games just fine, don't see why I'd turn it into a shitty computer.
▶ No.906989
>>906984
Go away, you're not autistic enough for this board.
▶ No.907098
>>902445
>implying the BSD kernels are any better than Linux
Monolithic kernels are all architecturally flawed in an age where we have hardware powerful enough to run microkernels without any of the major performance hits (as long as they're made right). This is why Google is working on their Fuchsia OS. Many say it's because of liscensing, but they've kept it open source thus far and I'm willing to play devil's advocate. Microkernels will become mainstream and replace monolithic garbage like Linux and BSD kernels, and will completely stomp and shit on hybrid fuckups like NT and XNU.
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▶ No.909677
>>909674
more like the thread is shit and not worth posting in
▶ No.910810>>910814
>>901997
To the real normalfags, PS3s are Netflix/BluRay machines.
▶ No.910814
>>910810
>normalfags knowing what a BluRay is
▶ No.917694
>>901502 (OP)
Is there GPU acceleration support?
>>906870
What games?
▶ No.917868
>>901999
So literally GDDR3? Silly kids with wikipedia-tier knowledge these days.
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▶ No.917965>>917971
>>901502 (OP)
I don't know how to use Linux
Let me know when it can run windows xp
In the mean time, I'll start reading "Linux for Dummies" and soy out over the MediEvil reboot
▶ No.917971>>917977 >>918030
>>917965
In theory we can run Windows on the PS4
In practice its not that simple because someone would need to port over a conventional BIOS/UEFI first since Windows expects a lot of standard BIOS interfaces which the PS4 doesn't have. Running Linux is easy because the PS4s platform interface already expects a *nix OS running on top AKA BSD
▶ No.917977
>>917971
Also we probably can just have a small Linux kernel based hypervisor acting as a stud BIOS between the PS4 proprietary IPL and run Windows on top of that with no overhead whatsoever. It might even be possible right now with no porting effort at all
▶ No.918030
>>917971
>BIOS/UEFI
the what? i'm grandma tier when it comes to computers. i have thousands of books but no idea in what order to read them in so that I could start to get gud with them
▶ No.918032
>I don't know how to run linux
The absolute state of /tech/
▶ No.924670
▶ No.924910>>924920
Can you install a free software bootloader and turn the PS4 into a completely free as in freedom compact PC?
▶ No.924920>>924952
>>924910
Probably but at that point you might as well just buy an actual compact PC like an Intel NUC
▶ No.924938>>924962
>>901524
you know damn well the $300 pricepoint is pitiful on both laptop and desktop performance wise.
sure you can get a thinkpad but your trading performance for reduced botnet.
i enjoy these things the same way i enjoy router's getting hacked. for $300 a playstation 4 could be turned into a powerful thing. good luck paying $300 and playing ps4 games on it. the same way replacing the firmware on a router get's you from minimully useful botnet to extremely useful full linux environment where you can do damn near anything in the confines of the system specifications, kind of like single board computers.
these things should not be shamed, but at the same time you should not go out and purchase proprietary hardware for the sole purpose of installing these hacks on it, as doing so supports proprietary hardware manufacturers. if you already have one or are forced to have one, (you like gaymes and don't want to drop $2k on a gayming machine, then by all means liberate your hardware and spread the information to others.
▶ No.924952>>924960
>>924920
The PS4 might actually be cheaper that's why I'm wondering.
It uses a pre-ryzen AMD CPU (no IME-tier botnet) with a GPU that doesn't require blobs, so if the bootloader can be free software then the entire thing can be free software.
If that can be done I'd buy a ps4 to put in my living room, install a distro of my choice, connect a controller to the USB port and turn the PS4 into a couch gaming machine. It has a CPU good enough to emulate every 2D console and play some free software games, so I think gaming on the ps4 could be pretty good.
▶ No.924960>>924964
>>924952
it's not going to emulation an xbox or a wii U or whatever previous gen gaymes you want on it.
it'll emulate nes/snes/sega/n64(maybe). you might well be better off with a thinkpad if you want libre emulation for these platorms.
>play some free software games
please inform me of some "free software games" that are worth playing. there are very very few, many are free, but they are not open source, dwarf fortress for example.
▶ No.924962
>>924938
>you know damn well the $300 pricepoint is pitiful on both laptop and desktop performance wise
Its not
I don't think you realize just how low setting most PS4 multiplats run at. And even then a lot of them can't even reach a target 30 fps. On lower-medium settings. Let that sink in. Even exclusive titles like Bloodborn dip into the low 20 fps quite often. The PS4 is trash price to performance wise
▶ No.924964
>>924960
I mean free as in freedom, not free as in free beer.
OpenMW
OpenRA
OpenTTD
Wesnoth
Xonotic
NetHack
These are all free games I play regularly, there are others but I don't play them.
I don't think anybody has tried to play video games on a PS4 but if it can be made to run exclusively free software I'd be willing to be the first one.