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Sounds like the perl6 community is the same as the perl5 community. This is why we abandoned the language for Python even though Python was less powerful.

>>831694

the perl5 community was built on arguments that the language is actually better than other languages, with lists of examples and languages attacked by name with links right on perl.com. it presented Perl as a serious language capable of serious things, and promoted extensions (strict, warnings) to close off some shenanigans. Perl5's only headache was that a lot of people had written a lot of really shit code in Perl4, and people kept seeing the language through that lens.

granted, perl5 today is a bunch of cucks who won't say a kind word about the language except to say how it could be more appealing to women. But today's community is the one that's seen nothing but decline.

>Python

>less powerful

I remember when people started moving from Perl to Python. At the time one of the ways the language was 'more readable' was that it didn't have += style operators. Python's basically a story of how, if you don't have a big company backing you, you can at least make do with a big meme.

>>831708

I used to work on some pretty big ooperl projects and the datastructures were a total nightmare to deal with. Many of those projects had stalled just because all effort was being spent just keeping them from collapsing from their own weight. Maybe you've forgotten how bad that situation was.

>>831600 (OP)

python objectively superior

>>831771

python's just shit. horrible in all respects. 'useful' in the way a dead pig is useful as a car when someone finally attaches a fucking car to its balls. at the very least use Ruby.

>>831773

>Ruby

Ha ha, no. Ruby is only for Rails. It's shit for scripting and embedding. Python can do everything.

>>831780

When you get out of school and into the real world you'll find they're used for big projects, qt.

>>831784

people use fucking javascript for big projects that doesn't mean it's a good idea so you can fuck right off with your high and mighty attitude

>>831787

When you're a bit older you'll realize it's not a bad decision to use these languages for large projects. Until then, learn to control your anger as you can't program effectively while mad.

>>831773

python is the ultimate programming language, it has it all, even generators my man

>>831873

Is TempleOS effective at anything?

Eh, I haven't even given Perl 6 a chance yet, so I don't have any opinion about it. Perl 5 still fulfills all my non-trivial scripting needs (stuff that a small /bin/sh script can't handle). Just today I wrote a small proxy/firewall component for my own use, using the HTTP::Proxy module. 30 lines of code does exactly what I needed.

>>832074

So that's a no, then.

>>831600 (OP)

Netanel Rubin pls go

>>832144

never heard of him

>Day 4

an extract from a book on parsing in perl6. You're not going to use perl6 for parsing, but if you were, here's how you would do it. relatively serious. minimal unicode.

I think I'll need more posts by Zoffix if I'm to reach my hate goal by Christmas.

>>832015

god uses templeOS i communicate with god daily with it. god's a real foxy sheila tbh.

>>832145

>I think I'll need more posts by Zoffix if I'm to reach my hate goal by Christmas.

Just go read their IRC logs, the guy's packing some serious borderline personality disorder and flips shit at random people and storms off at least monthly. The "pet monkey" slur against an indian guy a few months ago was stellar.

Ironically that's what sets them apart from most other language communities - most of them are so genuinely nice and forgiving they get taken advantage of by shitheels like him. Rust would've tossed him out on his ass at the first offense, hell he's probably permabanned from a lot of perl 5. Fucking ad industry cunt.

>day 6

>I do think Perl 6’s lack of strict typing is a major disadvantage, because developing the mental muscles of keeping track of data types is a good idea

uh what. Did you forget a negative or are you just stupid? I spent a lot more time keeping track of types in Forth than in OCaml. You know why? Because Forth doesn't help me *at all* but OCaml will immediately complain when the types in my code stop making sense.

Or are you one of those people that thinks if your compiler doesn't check types, that your code doesn't have them?

>I was not able to “absorb” what Stroustrup was explaining even though he was teaching the basics which I had already learned.

blah blah blah. This isn't a review; it's a TED talk about the personal journey of a perl6 guy through a perl6 book.

boring but not hateful. BRING BACK ZOF

>day 7

>2017

>still using tests

ok fair enough but I'm not at a loss for a way to test things in other languages.

I saw that unicode too. Can you guys literally not help yourselves? Do you have a fetish or something?

>day 8

>here's how you can help make us make perl6 not suck as hard!

wew

>day 9

wtf I don't hate perl6 at all today.

if I had to throw up a quick webserver I could even see myself using this thing

...assuming that centos has perl6 rpms.

>day 10

starting to get cool. sounds like an adventofcode problem here.

> Luckily, he was using Perl 6, which properly turns unicode fractions into rational number

... you ... you stupid motherfuckers.

>>835821

That one's not entirely their fault, they're just overly excited about making full use of the data files the unicode consortium puts out.

Now if you want something numeric to bitch about, how about there being no shorthand for literal-hex floats like there is in perl 5:

 ~ $ perl -E 'say 0x1234p-8'
18.203125
 ~ $ perl6 -e 'say 0x1234 / (1 +< 8)'
18.203125

That was added to p5 because it solved a real problem somewhere. Unicode 10? Emoji parsing? Who fucking cares that the language's output looks pretty on an iPhone screen, when it has to be copied and pasted into twitter to get there at all because it lacks the binary data types to speak half the OSI stack?

>>832115

why not rewrite it in python rust?