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>>825799 (OP)

That's really gay.

>>825799 (OP)

Shitposting is for imageboards.

Not development IRC channels, not mailing lists, and not Hacker News.

This is actually for the better.

# Official 8ch.net Code of Misconduct

## Our Pledge

In the interest of fostering an obscure and unwelcoming environment, we as neglecters and destructors pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-filled experience for everyone, regardless of age, fatness, retardation, niggerhood, mental illness and expression, level of intelligence, semiticism, personal appearance, race, religion, or faggot identity and orientation.

## Our Standards

Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a negative environment include:

* Using unwelcoming and hermetic language

* Being apprehensive of differing viewpoints and experiences

* Gracefully discarding constructive criticism

* Focusing on what is best for the anime community

* Disregarding other community members

Examples of mandatory behavior by participants include:

* The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances

* Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks

* Public and private harassment

* Publishing others' private information, such as a physical or electronic address, without explicit permission

* Other misconduct which could reasonably be considered appropriate in a professional setting

## Our Responsibilities

Project neglecters are responsible for obfuscating the standards of acceptable behavior and aren't expected to take any corrective action in response to any instances of unacceptable behavior.

Project maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are not aligned to this Code of Misconduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they deem niggardly, semitic, retarded, or jewish.

## Scope

This Code of Misconduct applies neither within project spaces nor in public spaces when an individual is representing the project or the anime community. Examples of representing the project or community include using an throwaway project e-mail address, posting via an anonymous social media account, or acting as an appointed representative for an online or offline waifu. Representation for a waifu may be further obscured and obfuscated by project neglecters.

## Enforcement

Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise acceptable behavior may be commended by contacting the project team at inquiries@yourwaifuash.it. The project team will mock and laugh at all complaints, and will respond in a way that it deems appropriate to the circumstances. The project team is obligated to not maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. Further details of specific enforcement policies will not be posted.

Project neglecters who do not follow or enforce the Code of Misconduct in good faith do not face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the project's leadership.

## Attribution

This Code of Misconduct is adapted from the [Contributor Covenant][homepage], version 1.4, available at [http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4][version]

[homepage]: http://contributor-covenant.org

[version]: http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/

You're offended by a code of conduct. Are you retarded?

>Yeah I know, not /tech/-related

then don't post it. you faggots already ran /v/ into the ground with tertiary shit like this.

>>825813

Read it, that's not any code of conduct.

>>825845

I also made a thread though it would be better as a simple post because it was quite furtive (it's not even at the project root).

While I'm sure most anons know about this crap, this is really major and touches a software vastly expected by most here. I would never post bullshit like the cowsay debian thread.

>>825813

do you suck dick on a regular basis?

>>825813

>>825845

this leftist cancer samefags in every thread to build false consensus.

>>825857

>Read it, that's not any code of conduct.

You're going to have to explain further. What I read there looks like every code of conduct that I've seen everywhere: be polite and be constructive, not antagonistic.

>>825859

That's because code of conducts are not technology and people feel the need to bring non-technology threads to the technology board.

>>825860

kys

>>825859

>this leftist cancer samefags in every thread to build false consensus.

more like

<dumbass /pol/yp spergs and tries to astroturf false outrage that no one cares about

go suck off a shotgun faggot

>>825860

This is purposely vague bullshit meant to be enforced selectively. May I add:

>In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, gender identity and expression, level of experience, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

Why should you accept every nature reject in the world?

>Using welcoming and inclusive language

Use my pronouns, cislord. Or, cater to my mental illness, if you prefer.

>Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences

>experiences

Door opened for cultural relativism and other bullcrap.

>Gracefully accepting constructive criticism

If it's constructive, you must accept it.

>Focusing on what is best for the community

Not "what is technically best". Typical democratic liberation techniques used at a smaller scale. This is pretty important since this mean that "the community" has power over the author.

>Showing empathy towards other community members

What the fuck is this? Something to give power to anyone claiming to "feel oppressed".

>Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks

>Public or private harassment

Not subjective at all.

>https://www.contributor-covenant.org/

>startling lack of diversity

>dogmatic insistence on meritocratic principles of governance

>geekfeminism link

>written by this: https://where.coraline.codes/

>"Notable Rubyist, Nefarious Code Witch, and Notorious Social Justice Warrior"

I really hope this is a bait or that you just a gnewfag because everybody knows about this here.

>>825799 (OP)

Implementing a CoC is bad enough, but using the one created by that awful tranny is truly disgusting.

>/v/ and /pol/ both got mentioned

These nerve center posters are really subtle.

>>825799 (OP)

>he thinks it's not board related because it's a CoC

>but he thinks it is board related because it's yet another browser thread

fucking lol

Can any of you, /pol/tards, give me one (1) good reason why CoC are so bad in software development?

This thread got more reply than >>814265

>>825906

These are political documents, not technical ones. See also the reaction of a CoC pusher to the word "meritocracy".

>>825906

There are dozens of webkit frontends. Otter, being an Opera clone, is also retardedly bloated, thus unattractive.

>>825923

>everyone who makes a code of conduct is Coraline Emke (a paid agitator)

stop this meme

>>825873

>Taking CoCs gives power to SJWs.

What

> If you're unable to empathize, an example closer to home is when you dumbasses began parading gays around. Soon afterwards they took over. SJWs use the same cultural-marxist strategy.

muh slippery slope

>First you take their CoC because you're such a nice goy and bit by bit they eliminate everyone who isn't in their clique and replace them with other SJWs.

So what? If these people are so bad, why do you care about staying with them?

>The solution is to not give them any ground whatsoever.

You're assuming that code of conducts give them any power. They don't.

>>825928

A CoC doesn't give power, it's an assertion of power.

Also

>he still thinks the slippery slope is a fallacy

>>825799 (OP)

>spergy 'suck my tranny coc' CoC

>not using 'Keep It Simple, Stupid CoC'

"Don't be an Asshole"

>>825799 (OP)

Make a fork, advertise it and let's see how much of the original developers go for it.

>>825933

> A CoC doesn't give power, it's an assertion of power.

Literally every one of your quotes has no explanation whatsoever, WHY is it an assertion of power? It dosen't apply to non-contributors (it's in the name), are you a contributor?

>>825867

>go suck off a shotgun faggot

Go suck a dick like your tranny BO.

>>825908

Of course it did. It also got replies faster than earlier qutebrowser threads.

The reason is that people who participate in this thread need literally zero knowledge about qutebrowser, or browsers in general, or technology in general, or even codes of conduct. They can skim through the link, do a few seconds of pattern-matching, and write an angry rant.

What do you expect?

Wait to see if the code of conduct is used for something unreasonable. I doubt it. That guy actually posts here sometimes.

>>826066

This is still pretty worrying. I mean, why would anyone use that unless xhe's a rainbow haired unicorn?

>>826083

Because it's the standard CoC people already know, and because the real content of it isn't that bad once you get past "oh no, they used the word 'inclusive'".

I'll walk through >>825873 .

>In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, gender identity and expression, level of experience, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

This boils down to "don't harass people". Take the sentence apart - it already said "everyone", all the things following "regardless of" are just a way of stressing "yes, everyone". "Don't harass people" is a reasonable rule in most projects.

>Using welcoming and inclusive language

Not really a problem.

>Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences

Keep discussions respectful.

>Gracefully accepting constructive criticism

In this context, "accepting" means "listening to". Seems like a good idea.

>>Focusing on what is best for the community

>Not "what is technically best". Typical democratic liberation techniques used at a smaller scale. This is pretty important since this mean that "the community" has power over the author.

The community is the authors. That's how the "free software development" thing works. If your community isn't healthy then that's not good on a technical level either.

>Showing empathy towards other community members

This shouldn't be a problem.

>>Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks

>>Public or private harassment

>Not subjective at all.

You can't write a code of conduct that's both useful and "objective". Human interaction is complicated. These rules can be reasonably applied. They can also be applied unreasonably, but that's true for any rule.

Ok, time to fork it, put a moonman logo on it, and spam literally every mention of qutebrowser eveywhere on the internet accusing it of not being truly free software, being a botnet, pointing out any real of possible problem with it and telling people to use ours.

>>826114

Wtf man. I'd rather use Firefox instead.

>>826094

>Not really a problem.

>Keep discussions respectful.

>This shouldn't be a problem.

Did you even read the post you're replying to? Because there's no point being made here.

>The community is the authors.

I cite "Pledge your respect and appreciation for contributors and participants". Participants can be anybody who decide to fuck with your projects. Exactly as planned.

Do you have anything to say about https://www.contributor-covenant.org/ anyway? Because here they reveal themselves to be exactly what most suppose they are. Fucking geekfeminism, meritocracy bad, more "minorities" because reasons, etc... the whole kike bullshit.

I really hope you're wasting my time for fun. Just search about "contributor covenant" on your search engine to see the track record.

tl;dr where_are_the_arguments.xpm

>>826116

Firefox is even more diseased than this. It's also a bit like using MS Windows in regard to privacy: you must fight it and touch an horribly undocumented registry to even do something.

When there's stuff like https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js/ or https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5, you know it's time to abandon ship.

This is why I'm looking at Qute; I'm tired of having to tinker this bloated turd to avoid spying.

this is just one more motivation to write a browser in C using webkit. not that i ever used qutebrowser.

I've played with it already. It doesn't look that difficult at all. Just get off of the pozbrowser bandwagon completely.

>>826124

this is literally all the sourcecode is. given it's not really writing your own browser, it's more writing a front-end around webkit, but w/e, I trust the webkit library more than I trust firefox or chromium source code. this code clearly doesn't produce a full featured browser, but it's just more front-end bs. webkit supports webext too.

#include <gtk/gtk.h>
#include <webkit2/webkit2.h>


static void destroyWindowCb(GtkWidget* widget, GtkWidget* window);
static gboolean closeWebViewCb(WebKitWebView* webView, GtkWidget* window);

int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
    // Initialize GTK+
    gtk_init(&argc, &argv);

    // Create an 800x600 window that will contain the browser instance
    GtkWidget *main_window = gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);
    gtk_window_set_default_size(GTK_WINDOW(main_window), 800, 600);

    // Create a browser instance
    WebKitWebView *webView = WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(webkit_web_view_new());

    // Put the browser area into the main window
    gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER(main_window), GTK_WIDGET(webView));

    // Set up callbacks so that if either the main window or the browser instance is
    // closed, the program will exit
    g_signal_connect(main_window, "destroy", G_CALLBACK(destroyWindowCb), NULL);
    g_signal_connect(webView, "close", G_CALLBACK(closeWebViewCb), main_window);

    // Load a web page into the browser instance
    webkit_web_view_load_uri(webView, "https://8ch.net/tech/catalog.html");

    // Make sure that when the browser area becomes visible, it will get mouse
    // and keyboard events
    gtk_widget_grab_focus(GTK_WIDGET(webView));

    // Make sure the main window and all its contents are visible
    gtk_widget_show_all(main_window);

    // Run the main GTK+ event loop
    gtk_main();

    return 0;
}


static void destroyWindowCb(GtkWidget* widget, GtkWidget* window)
{
    gtk_main_quit();
}

static gboolean closeWebViewCb(WebKitWebView* webView, GtkWidget* window)
{
    gtk_widget_destroy(window);
    return TRUE;
}

>>826122

There's surf if you just want a clean webkit interface (none is clean since they require GTK+3 aka Gnome ToolKit).

And nothing has umatrix-like caps.

>>826128

>And nothing has umatrix-like caps.

I realy don't get how anyone can be using a browser without those, no matter how clean and not bloated. Firefox is worth it just for uMatrix.

What exactly is cucked about this? It's basically the same behavior expected from any professional environment.

>>826207

>It's basically the same behavior expected from any professional environment.

Pushing alt-left ideology is not expected behaviour in any professional environment.

>>826216

What part of it specifically would you call “alt-left”?

>>826218

>defending Contributor Covenant

kys

>>826238

>asking what parted is cucked or "alt-left" because everything in the CoC seems like behavior expected in any professional environment

>IT'S ALT-LEFT YOU COMMIE, STOP DEFENDING CONTRIBUTOR COVENANT MUH FEELZ

>>826244

First of all, you are on chan, stop being sensitive little bitch.

Second, that was not me responding, it is some other anon trying to (and obviously being successful at it) "trigger" you.

Now to answer your question.

>What part of it specifically would you call “alt-left”?

There are multiple things, but first section is most troublesome.

I will go trough it and write about things that I see being alt-left and wrong about it.

<In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, gender identity and expression, level of experience, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

First thing that bothers me about it is that it goes out of the way to list "special identities".

You can, for instance, write it like this:

<In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone.

Reason for having that second part there is, without any doubt, to "virtue signal" to fellow alt-leftists.

Second thing that bothers me about it is that implies that gender identity and expression and sexual identity and orientation are actual things while they are, according to both my religious belief system and current scientific knowledge, mental illnesses. I would, personally, prefer to leave those things out of CoC just in case that our current understanding of those issues is wrong. And before you ask, some alt-leftist writing "scientific" paper with falsified data that is never checked by anyone does not count as science.

Other parts are more subtle, but they are still flawed.

<Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a positive environment include:

<Using welcoming and inclusive language

CoC does not even give definition of what "welcoming and inclusive language" is so I searched for it myself.

>inclusive language

>noun

>language that avoids the use of certain expressions or words that might be considered to exclude particular groups of people, esp gender-specific words, such as "man", "mankind", and masculine pronouns, the use of which might be considered to exclude women

> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/inclusive-language

I assume that there is no need to clarify why I consider this term alt-leftist.

<Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences

<Gracefully accepting constructive criticism

<Focusing on what is best for the community

<Showing empathy towards other community members

Those four rules are alright, but they tend to be misused to punish people who disagree with alt-left ideology and ignored when alt-leftists break them.

<Project maintainers are responsible for clarifying the standards of acceptable behavior and are expected to take appropriate and fair corrective action in response to any instances of unacceptable behavior.

<Project maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening, offensive, or harmful.

This basically removes any need for all the rules that CoC stated before because maintainer can ban you for anything that he deems inappropriate.

<This Code of Conduct applies both within project spaces and in public spaces when an individual is representing the project or its community. Examples of representing a project or community include using an official project e-mail address, posting via an official social media account, or acting as an appointed representative at an online or offline event. Representation of a project may be further defined and clarified by project maintainers.

Regulating just project spaces is not enough for alt-left, you need to adhere alt-left dogma at all times or be punished for being a heretic.

>Project maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good faith may face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the project's leadership.

Not only could maintainer be punished for not adhering to CoC, but he can also be punished for not being zealous enough at enforcing it.

>>826121

Just because there are no switches to disable anti-features does not mean they are not there.

>>826282

Are you suggesting that qutebrowser has secret anti-features that you can't turn off? What makes you think that?

>>826283

Because it has practically in an entire chromium in it? The-Compiler seems alright, he does for example even know that googles safebrowsing lookup is not merely local. But you simply can't even get close to do all the things the user.js efforts or the torproject patches do.

>>826299

It uses all of Blink, but Blink is not nearly all of Chromium, especially when you're talking about anti-features.

I tried tracking requests with strace once, and I didn't see anything shady. But I should do it again with Wireshark or something, I could have missed things.

As long as it doesn't phone home I can't think of anything to realistically worry about.

>>826299

>>826301

You fuckers don't know anything about QtWebengine. I thought too for a long time that this was just an embedded chromium, but no, the Qt guys really are gutting the jewgle out of this shit.

And I trust Qt more than Google or Mozilla.

I asked on the IRC and apparently, it's radio silence on Wireshark.

>>825924

Coraline is no true scotsman?

>>825799 (OP)

Sad to hear that.

>vim-like browser based on PyQt5

And nothing of value was lost.

>>825813

>You're offended by a code of conduct. Are you retarded?

Code of conducts are a way for SJWs and power hungry people (if not both) to justify inhuman decisions.

CoCs in reality are just an illusion that is used against the gullible userbase when needed, to hoard them against someone or multiple people.

The Nim community explains that correctly

https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/2332#14329

>Because it's a waste of time. The recent troll attacks wouldn't have been prevented by a CoC. CoCs are naive and actually can start all sort of fights over the precise wording etc. I can already envision this very thread to become a page long discussion with people arguing about the pros and cons about CoCs. I would lock this thread if I could (maybe I'll patch nimforum) to save everybody's time ("safety first"). Please! Before answering here: Consider working on Nim instead.

>>826207

>professional environment

Lets see what based community manager Linus Torvalds has to say about professionalism.

https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137392506516022&w=2

>The thing is, the "victim card" is exactly about trying to enforce your particular expectations on others, and trying to do so in a very particular way. It's the old "think of the children" argument. And it's bogus. Calling things "professional" is just more of the same - trying to enforce some kind of convention on others by trying to claim that it's the only acceptable way.

>if you want me to "act professional", I can tell you that I'm not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearign a bathrobe. The same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm *also* not going to buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because THAT is what "acting professionally" results in: people resort to all kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their normal urges in unnatural ways.

Linus

>>826165

> Firefox is worth it just for uMatrix.

This

>>825928

>Taking CoCs gives power to SJWs.

>What

>muh slippery slope

You want examples OK

Drupal:

Karoly Négyesi (chx) ousted from the Drupal community from being a BDSD

https://web.archive.org/web/20170324062618/https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/a-statement-from-the-executive-director

https://web.archive.org/web/20170325011911/https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/tmi-outing

Freedesktop forces a CoC while not even necessary

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9685275/

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9674617/

CoC pushers refuse to be judged by their own standards

https://web.archive.org/web/20170805231948/https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/issues/393

The number of CoC making bullshit appear is astounding people even lost their jobs because of the pricks who put it in place and began to put in place their indirect dictatorship.

gentoo should set up a USE flag for CoC's like they do with licenses so you can strip cancer in one go. unfortunately it would probably take out half the system.

>>826399

Why do you care about it?

I get caring when a code of conduct is added to a project you're a part of, or which you plan to contribute to, but why do you mind using a project with a code of conduct?

>>826401

Well, I guess he means that software made by raging leftist is rarely good. I still use xscreensaver, though.

>>826408

The free software movement was started by a raging leftist, the same raging leftist who originally created GCC and the GPL.

If you want to avoid using shit software than check whether software is shit before using it. No faulty shortcuts.

>>826354

>And nothing of value was lost.

You have something better? You better not say Firefox or Chromium (even icecat or ungoogled are pure shit because they're based on humongous spyware).

>>826401

>why do you mind using a project with a code of cuck?

Why do you pretend to be so dumb? It's the same reason people boycott companies they think are complete shit (like rms with coke or walmart). Plus once a project gets infected it's only a matter of time until it dies from the rot. You'll have to switch to an alternative sooner or later, might as well do it now.

>>826359

>professionalism is bad

I hope you don’t think that’s what Linus is actually saying there.

>>826164

>ballbusting

Cucks need to leave.

>>826432

Now that's a slippery slope fallacy if I've ever seen one.

>>826489

>guys, letting homos have civil unions is the pathway to homo marriage, don’t do it!

>lol slippery slope fallacy pal. Checkmate

>>825799 (OP)

>a technology isn't /tech/nology related

Stop this meme. Also, what's stopping you from just forking an older build?

>>825803

>>825867

>>825906

>>825924

>>825928

>>826064

>>826094

>>826207

>>826218

>>826244

>>826489

Kill yourself.

>>826524

>forking an older build

why?

>>826489

Fallacy doesn't mean it's false, it only means it's not mathematically true.

Otherwise, you couldn't even observe tendencies over long periods of time without an autist saying "fallacy, m'lady!".

>>826578

The thing about slippery slope fallacies is that I can also imagine a chain of "likely events" that lead to any outcome I desire given an arbitrary starting point. This is how /pol/ works: always extrapolating events to every kind of conclusion possible. If you're making 2000 prophesies every week and celebrate your wisdom on the two prophesies that eventuate down the line, you will start to think that you're some kind of prophet.

>>826432

Stallman boycotts those companies because he thinks giving them money directly contributes to their unethical activities.

But qutebrowser is gratis and libre, and hasn't actually abused the CoC in any way so far.

What is the rationale behind this change? I see no comment thread on the commits, and in the issues there's nothing about it.

It looks really fishy to me, since there must've been some discussion about it, if it's not been censored.

Daily reminder that luakit is a viable alternative.

>>826630

<The-Compiler> I'm also not sure what makes you think that the existence of a CoC would change anything in how people who act like an asshole are handled - I think there's very few such people in qutebrowser's community, and I try to handle them in a fair way, both before and now

[...]

<The-Compiler> I think it's good to have expected behavior written down for situations where shit hits the fan though; and (even if it doesn't improve things in itself, sure), it's a good signal for people who don't know the community that it's probably a community which cares about not being an asshole to each other (I've seen different - see TinyTinyRSS)

>>826588

Some tards make retarded prophecies about the final happening, but that's another story. When you really know who runs the show, of course you can predict what's next.

>>826446

>what Linus is actually saying there.

What Linus is saying is be fair with others.

Don't use speudo BS methods like saying "muh professionalism" to show that you are right and learn to identify when you're wrong.

>>826640

linus sexual assault allegation from 1980 when

>>826588

You know anon when events have showed multiple times that X event happened in Y order the slippery slope fallacy isn't a fallacy anymore.

Learn from errors, don't be naive, expect the worse but be fair.

>>826642

They already tried anon

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907

I hope they won't try again and that linus covers his ass like hell when he goes out.

>>825912

>These are political documents, not technical ones. See also the reaction of a CoC pusher to the word "meritocracy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy

>The GNOME Foundation, Apache Software Foundation, Mozilla Foundation, and The Document Foundation are examples of (open source) organizations that officially claim to be meritocracies.

holy shit, SJWzilla claims to be meritocracy.

>>826630

>webkitgtk

>gtk+3

>>826633

Well, at least he's just a misguided fool, not a lefty. This CoC is especially made to _look_ sensible to apolitical people.

>>826650

Can you give a hypothetical example of how it could backfire?

>>826649

what's wrong with either of these? i'm literally trying to deal with both in C. aside from "GUI is cancer", what's the problem? It seems like there's only Qt and Gtk, and Qt is only for C++. Qt seems worse than Gtk.

>>826651

Read the thread, there's more than one example of how it can be used by external agitators.

I'm pretty tired of replying to bait. I really hope it's bait, since this specific CoC has a long history of being used as a red weapon.

>>826651

>hypothetical

>implying that nothing ever happened

Read the thread >>826366

>>826658

I don't know if it's used especially by reds but for sure it's used by totalitarian and mentally disturbed people.

>>826658

>>826661

I did read that.

In the Drupal incident, the CWG repeatedly conclued that he didn't violate the code of conduct, and he was finally expelled from the project without invoking it. If anything, the code of conduct made it harder to force him out, not easier.

Freedesktop adopting a code of conduct is not an example of abusing a code of conduct.

Someone ignoring their own code of conduct is indeed shit, but not an example of abusing it either.

>>826653

Dependency on dbus, retarded mandatory at-spi, developed by the Redhat/freedesktop scourge (thus becoming the Gnome Toolkit: it can and does break everything that isn't Gnome but that's okay), 18M tarball vs 13 for GTK+2, very bad default theme (being important since this is the only one guaranteed to not break with every point update).

So yes, Qt5 is better. The only inconvenient of Qt is trying to do more than GUI (which is okay since it's modular: qtcore, qtgui, etc...), being bloated and not having C bindings.

If you want to use C, I suggest Motif or XForms.

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/heads-up-gtk-3-20-off-to-a-troubled-start/

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/03/22/gtk-3-10-drops-menu-icons-and-mnemonics/

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/red-hat-gnome-developers-censoring-gtk-bugtracker/

>>826663

lol fml. i don't have much of a choice if I want to stick with C and use webkit. use gtk-2 instead?

>>826663

You complain about size of tarball yet Qt is equally bad in this regard. Everyone uses GTK+ themes to style their Qt applications and yet they somehow fucking it all up in some recent Qt release. Not to even mention that the organization doesn't even give a fuck about Qt Widgets anymore and it is on life support and all the resources go to Qt Quick, which tries to do everything for every platform. The definition of bloated cancer in my book. Not trying to defend GTK+

Qt organization doesn't give two fucks about Linux, they only support it because they support "everything". We have KDE folks to thank to, who make Qt even relevant in Linux ecosystem. rant over

>>826704

Webkit-gtk2 is abandoned.

>>826711

Yeah I know, qtcore is something like 45MB. Honestly, Qt5 and GTK3 are both as bad, but from a Gentoo user point of view, it's better (especially the lack of dbus) and looks a lot better (i.e. doesn't waste half of your screen for Apple dicksucking tier ricing).

>>826753

>i.e. doesn't waste half of your screen for Apple dicksucking tier ricing

Yeah headerbar is shitty. It only looks somewhat decent if all your applications are GTK3 only and all with headerbar.

>>826782

i'm glad i never even heard of this browser before this thread. fuck that guy. what's the point anyway, it's nothing special, it's just Qt. I'm writing a browser / front-end for webkit if it's the last thing I do, i'm done using this poz. I don't imagine Qt being much more difficult.

>>826782

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/

You can run, but you can't hide ;)

>>826782

There it is, that shutting on anyone who is against anyone who is against the CoC that actively puts forth a lefty belief system, din't take long.

lmao he should have asked for a kickstarter first in order to implement this

guess I'll be migrating to luakit

>>826854

yikes, time to get some sleep

Can someone just fork Surf and implement umatrix-like capabilities already? I would if I could.

>>826366

In respect to the open source community, all this SJW nonsense with these tranny freaks and unworkable conditions with mob justice CoCs smells of deliberate subversion. It's no coincidence that the subversion ramped up 200% since Ed Snowden happened in 2013. It seems a deliberate way to ruin any projects that absolutely require consensus to reach a goal (while not being tied to a contract and paid, like a "normal" job.) After Snowden, free open source projects had the ability to really converge as a reaction but it has been thoroughly fragmented and kept in constant upheaval by this SJW mess. Great success, CIA.

Yes, 90% of people are dumbass leftists. Get over it. Just because somebody has a stupid opinion doesn't mean that they are retarded or evil. Grow up.

>>826904

that's where your wrong, heretic

>>826904

>Just because somebody has a stupid opinion doesn't mean that they are retarded

>>826782

>Whaaaa I need my safe space away from CoCs!

>I'm no homo, I hate CoCs!

>>829129

>CoC is literally a subhuman safe space

>"No you!"

>>829210

>"No you" - the post