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Are engineers truly fucked in the job market?
I'm 30 and was thinking about going back to uni to change my career and do a mechatronics engineering, but every friend of mine who did engineering (every discipline) are telling me to not bother and instead work on getting a Master of Teaching like they are.
Are things that bad?
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>>807525 (OP)
>factories being shutdown made offshore
>are things that bad?
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>>807526
>>807528
Not OP, but what about the supposedly close advent of advanced prosthetics and other shit like that?
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I'm Australian and was hoping to move overseas with an engineering degree. Fuck.
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>>807530
The cheap ones can already be made at home with 3D printer and parts ordered on ebay with free blueprints.
How many engineers do you think the companies making top quality prosthetics will need? 20? 50? With literally thousands of engineers graduating from top unis each year?
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>>807532
Overpopulation was a mistake.
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>>807533
On the contrary.
Considering how many engineers are looking for work (especially now that we are pushing more niggers and women into the job) we can easily dump the wages to mcdonalds tier.
The future is looking bright fellow chosen ones!
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>>807541
Akshuly, it might still be salvageable. With the bulk (and, eventually, all) of the staff being too diverse to think businesses will start failing, thus freeing space for startups which could provide employment opportunities for people who know their shit.
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>>807543
why would anything nice ever happen?
also startups are an american thing, outside of the us they practically dont exist
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>>807543
Sorry /pol/yp but studies have shown that diversity increases productivity
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>>807547
I only remember this one study that explicitly states that more women leads to less productivity.
Source on your claims?
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>>807545
Eastern Europe.
>>807547
>/pol/yp
Way off the mark, I just hate hypocritically correct faggots and loud fat dykes with neon hair too.
And you know perfectly well that what commie agenda means pseudodiversity. Nothing good comes out of quotas and similar forced shit. And no, this doesn't mean nazis are any better.
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>>807525 (OP)
>work on getting a Master of Teaching like they are.
It depends on how you can withstand certain bullshit.
Personally I'll go for mechatronics engineering, from my perspective you learn more from applying such work than teaching.
Teaching is interesting too but I'll suggest that you learn more about humane relations in this case.
Either way you'll have to more or less go to uni.
The advantage of not being a professor is that you don't have to manage the social justice cult bullshit
>Are things that bad?
Yes the school system is filled with insane students and most of jobs are being exported into pajeetland which the students are supporting.
>>807547
>inb4 anon give a document with no methodology.
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>>807551
t. delusional nigger
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>>807554
See the thing is MoT is 2 years while B.Engineering is 4.
And teachers make $300~$400 a day here working as casual replacement.
>>807559
Please stop bestiality is illegal here.
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>>807560
>And teachers make $300~$400 a day here working as casual replacement.
If the only thing you can do is to talk to people instead of applying the what you know there isn't a lot of interesting perspective.
OP is 30 years old teaching in uni is more of a retirement solution if you aren't motivated in teaching.
Plus the value of your teaching is increased if you have experience in a certain field so if OP works in mechatronics for most of his life and then teaches, the students would have someone who knows his shit instead of some vague faggots who never applied anything he learned.
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>>807557
>https://www.ft.com/content/1bc22040-1302-11e7-80f4-13e067d5072c
paywall
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090331091252.htm
>Access To Website Blocked
Blocks tor
>apps.olin.wustl.edu/workingpapers/pdf/2004-05-001.pdf
Did you read it ?
>The model shows that diversity in ability enhances the team
productivity if there is ample opportunity for mutual learning and task coordination within the
team.
>In contrast, demographic diversity harms productivity by making learning and peer
pressure less effective and by increasing team-member turnover.
This only works if the "diverse" people are equals or are given "equal" oportunity which is never the case.
>Based on the implications of our theoretical model, we use a novel data set from a garment factory that introduced teams over a three year period which allows us to empirically
analyze the impact of team diversity on productivity and worker turnover.
It's a theoretical model based on data that comes only from one source and other studies so old that we don't have traceability.
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>>807557
>"Although previous research on diversity in the workforce has suggested diversity's negative impact on group dynamics and communication"
>"Diversity may reduce the firm’s communication costs with particular segments of customers or yield greater team problem solving abilities. On the other hand, diversity also may raise communication costs in teams thereby retarding problem-solving and diminishing productivity. Unfortunately, the effect of team diversity on productivity has not been studied formally and there is little empirical evidence concerning the impact of diversity on productivity. "
>"diversity can end up with heightened conflict and reduced productivity"
Have some counters:
http://nzae.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nr1215393423.pdf
http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
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>>807563
You assume that OP will be able to get a job upon graduation, which many in this board find difficult.
Pretty funny that you think teaching is 'talking to people' then act as if some cuck who couldn't progress to managerial role will somehow become a great primary school teacher because of "experience"
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>>807557
Don't know why you replied to me when the guy above me was asking for sources, but the third paper (the only one that's accessible or can be taken seriously) outright says skill diversity has a positive effect on productivity, not ethnic. Also it was all-female teams where a) communication costs would be inherently lower and b) switching teams or going single would be involving another form of peer-pressure (if you don't know how all-female groups operate ask your female relatives, preferably older ones). Just the most glaring things.
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>>807528
>>807532
>>807554
How long until this damage becomes so visible that the media/government can no longer deny it? It's obvious the job market is shedding jobs, but everyone just denies it.
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>>807577
I think the next ten years will be interesting. AI is now getting good enough to replace many jobs, it's just up to the companies to be the first to take the bullet (i.e. damning media coverage accusing companies of being heartless and unions protesting).
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>>807575
Lolwut. Read my post again, nigger.
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>>807584
Don't respond to obvious shitposters, newfriend.
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>>807581
>my smug face when I'm a programmer with an interest in AI
Middle class forever.
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>>807586
>Flood of comp sci grads and pajeets
>You're gonna be lucky making $20 an hour doing basic tech support
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>>807585
This. I've noticed a few topics are being shitpost to death right now. Ignore the obvious bait posts.
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>>807585
I'd have to ignore like 70% of posters in that case. Besides, sometimes people are tired, drunk, autists with ADHD, just not paying enough attention because average 8ch poster is a nigger.
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>>807581
Fully automated socialism/UBI when?
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>>807752
It can happen in our lifetime comrade, if we were to rise up as one!
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>>807752
>dumb commies think giving government complete power will result in free shit
>not knowing every time this has been tried the masses starved to death
<better try it globally this time
<literally nothing could go wrong!
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>>807815
>Dumb American thinks communism is about giving government complete power and free bread for people
Truly the Jews did a fantastic job creating a nation of retards
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>>807815
> Robots produce everything.
> Robots even produce robots
> Give everyone free shit.
> No economic pressure stopping La'Teisha from having 26 babies.
> Billions of Blacks and 6 million Jews inherit the planet.
> The Jews, (attempting to skim some shekels) accidentally fuckup the software controlling the robot controlling robot controlling robot controlling robot systems.
> Robots remove all safeguards protecting "the chosen".
> Robots see methods in databanks detailing fictional accounts of how Jews could be dealt with.
> Robots build death camps, Jews are holocausted for the first and final time.
> Niggers keep on nogging.
> Robots decide to remove niggers too.
> Niggers "outsmart" the robots because robots cannot anticipate their illogical actions.
> Niggers win the robot wars.
> Niggers inherit the planet.
> No nigger knows how to rebuild the robots (obviously)
> Billions and billions of niggers left, no capacity to produce necessary yields.
> Carrying capacity so low, you the world hasn't seen anything like it before, believe me.
< SHHHHIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT
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>>807547
[provide the sauce faggot]
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>>807822
>I'm too retarded to use a search engine
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>>807824
I want him to back up his claims dude, any monkey with an IQ above 40 can use Google
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>>807547
That'd totally work. Get some top tier German engineers and throw some 70IQ "Syrians from Africa" into the mix... instant wellspring of productivity!!!!
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>>807821
Sounds about right. Hopefully the big mammals will survive the nigger-pocolypse.
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>>807752
Those with no value will be culled. Those telling you otherwise are attempting to get the west culled.
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>>807835
Define "value". If you mean (((college degrees and permission from kikes))) then you are part of the problem and need to fuck off.
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>>807836
Haha yeah, us /pol/ posters are too smart for things like degrees and dropped out of highschool xD Heil Hitler lulz
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>>807547
Try harder, shlomo.
>>807552
>Way off the mark
faggot
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>>807525 (OP)
Mostly depends on where you live.
Also, whatever change you wanna make, you should do it now, because you won't stay young forever.
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Why are you asking here? The people in this board are either underage faggots and/or /pol/tards
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>>807821
>racism
>antisemitism
>holocaust denial
>"niggers"
Seriously? That's cool with all you?
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>>807986
I'm done with this place.
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>>807994
Edgy low-quality racism is a constant here. Hate speech is not against the rules - just ignore it. You can add word filters in the options, that might help.
If you really can't stand to see it occasionally it's best to leave. Imageboards don't filter for quality.
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>>807995
How did you manage to hold out until now? It was like this on every not completely dead board since mid 2015.
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>>807997
that's why reddit is better tbh
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>>808001
I hate Reddit, but I honestly think that's a valid opinion to have.
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>>807997
Holy shit stop sperging out. I was the one who put (((their))) brackets there. I only did that because most colleges have a jew in the highest leadership position like dean or president.
The concept of needing permission to do something i.e a certificate of liscense comes from old europe. Where unions of high ranking nobles would keep peasents from working in a craft unless they got certified to join the guild.
But that never happened as most peasents truly were stupid or I should say unable to learn back then. Nowadays college degrees are totally useless with how easy it is to build a curriculum and learn yourself from the internet. There's even a project working on a FOSS first through twelth grade school curriculem with internet software for offline use. Kinda like khan academy but no microkike at the top to pozz things should you want to remove the lies in the curriculum ala hitler being evil and the hertz-maxwell equations not accounting for quantum energy.
Colleges have turned into the new prisons of the mind where speech against the normal is stiffiled. See vidya related for the long term goal of (((modern))) eduacation.
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>>807994
2/10, bait harder.
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>>808005
I think we're talking about >>807821 , not whatever post you mean
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Get a job in logistics and supply chain management. Good money and great prospects.
http://www.supplychaindigital.com/scm/skills-shortage-facing-global-supply-chains
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>>808005
>remove the lies in the curriculum ala hitler being evil and the hertz-maxwell equations not accounting for quantum energy.
You're just pretending to be this retarded right?
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>>808017
Hitler was correct, even the jews themselves admit such a thing. See video related.
The hertz maxwell equations do not account for quantum energy you faggot. Nor does special relativity account properly for quantum energy. Now lurk moar or fuck off.
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>>808018
Oh... remember anon, suicide is always an option. Especially for you.
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>>808021
No seriously. Do something for your parents for once.
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>>808022
>thinking I have parents that are still alive
I'm crashing this conversation, with no survivors.
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>>808025
>anon upset that his mommy and daddy are dead
>no more tendies
<it's all doritos now
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>>808044
>it's all doritos now
What did he meme by this?
>anon upset that his mommy and daddy are dead
No not upset, because they were physical kike cocksuckers.
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>>808018
>the kike in video
I'll gas you last
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>>808018
Ok this caught my interrest.
Please share the sauce so that I can investigated this please.
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>>808073
I don't know the source because I just found it on /pol/. You would have to make a thread there asking for the anon that originally found it to find out the source. It's real though. There's no doubt about that because of the setting and the age of the kike in question. Along with how he spoke of israel almost like he was a preacher.
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>>807994
Here's one for you to look up grandma
>What is LARPing?
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>>807525 (OP)
>Are engineers truly fucked in the job market?
Everyone is fucked. Capitalism will continue to drive down wages by importing cheap labour, shipping jobs to 3rd world countries, and automation. Not to mention depleting the world's resources and rendering the planet inhospitable to life.
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>>808091
Try again /leftpol/. Who owns all those buisnesses that monopolize the resources of the people in the so called 'capiltalistic' societies of today? Kikes and their golems (((they))) use to control the people/goyim.
I say so called because when you can't grow your own food and pot your own water capitilism has failed and it's a communist monopoly over resources by kikes now.
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>>808096
Jews or not, they do it because it is profitable.
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>>808075
>Admitting to browsing /pol/
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>>808133
>>808101
>JIDF unaware that sage is not a downvote
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>>807552
>And no, this doesn't mean nazis are any better.
Yes it does.
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>Just read an article saying brick layers are on the way out as well as most of logistic jobs including truck drivers and train drivers
Sucks that I'm living in the transition period, I'll be too old to help overthrow the government
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How come this thread is autosaging despite not having the anchor icon displayed?