/tech/ - Technology★

Nice bloat, because they didn't do any of what you wanted. If you used the right combination of linux software you would get even better performance, and most certainly better security, in your pentium 4. If you want windows 9x UI just get a XFCE theme for it faggot.

Why trust this random chink to backport patches to a already compromised OS?

You're 100% dependent on a singular Japanese autist for backported security updates, and you're worried about space aliens and CIA niggers?

>I wouldn't rely on it for anything mission-critical

>80% of the websites I use on a regular basis are fully functional

>Windows

Why the fuckitty fuck would I ever use this over linux? Just WHY?

>>807015 (OP)

Huh, that's pretty impressive. How modern can your software get with KernelEX?

>>807021

Because linux software for anything outside software development is absolutely shit.

>>807038

...but that's all I care about, software development. Well that and web-browsing but that works just fine on Linux also Gimp and Krita work fine and there are some good games on linux that work fine. Linux does everything you could want and does it better.

>>807038

The fuck are you talking about? Have you ever heard of wine? Atleast with wine you get more security with your shitty winblows applications.

>>807046

What the fuck do you want to do exactly?

There are many things I CAN'T do on windjews that I do on linux.

Literally the only thing that right away comes to mind is "there's a bunch of shitty Windows exclusive programs and games that nobody in their right mind would ever want to waste their time and which could all probably run in Wine anyways".

>>807049

>What the fuck do you want to do exactly?

Use obscure hardware peripherals without having a BA in computer science for starters

>>807050

shhhh. That is too much logic for the Linux autiste community. They will start explaining how writing driver is not that complicated.

>>807046

False faggot. OP is using a pentium 4. He ain't playing any modern games with that. Wine has improved greatly, to the point of running windows applications better then windows 10. The gaming situation has improved on wine. You can play any DX9/10 game you can think of and some DX11 games now with great performance.

So you are doing it wrong.

>>807051

Well it isn't because you are just building off of c classess the kernel gives to you and pointing to memory adresses for hardware manipulation. MAYBE just maybe you are programming the device itself using a assembly language specific to it MAYBE.

>>807052

>He ain't playing any modern games with that

Even still a lot of older games even run very terribly on modern Windows, let alone Linux.

Then you run into other situations like, does the game require a fix that only runs on Windows. Or does it require codecs that windows even got rid of a long time ago. I remember Max Payne 1 on Windows 7 requires a sound fix because it used a sound format that Microsoft removed in later versions.

>The gaming situation has improved on wine

Not really, you're still going to run into tons of incompatibility issues. Even if it's as small as like "Game dips to 20 fps whenever you go into this menu". Stuff like that. It's generally a more temperamental experience.

Then you get into trying to run obscure programs most people haven't even heard of. Like for instance if you want to try modding a game, the level editor almost certainly never works on Linux and even if you got it to work, a lot of things about it won't. Like attempting to compile the level or use its script editor.

>You can play any DX9/10 game you can think of and some DX11 games now with great performance.

The last time I installed Linux on my laptop I was curious about the performance of Wine so I did a test.

I ran the native port of Half-Life 1 on Linux and I ran it on Wine

The native port of Half-Life 1 ran at a steady 60 fps as to be expected

The Wine version ran at approximately 40 fps and dipped to 30 frequently.

Emulation is always slower than the real thing and depending on your hardware that can make running a game basically unplayable.

>>807050

ah that is my issue too, I just gave up on ever having working audio, and nobody ever was helpful to me they all just claimed I was stupid and it could be done without explaining how

but these are the sacrifices we must make

>>807055

How long ago was this? As of wine 2.0 you get great performance unless you are running ubuntu on a fucking potatoe/pentium 4. Nice bloat faggot.

>>807050

>>807051

>>807057

The key here is knowing what hardware you have. lspci and lsusb should give you enough info to Google. If you want to use <anything> but Windows, you spend 2 seconds Googling before you buy to be sure it will work. It's not rocket science, and you'll feel a bit silly when you realize how easy the solutions are. Most people on /g/ and /tech/ are knowledgeable enough to field questions if you want to take a day or two to learn to use Linux.

>>807058

How long ago was this? As of wine 2.0 you get great performance unless you are running ubuntu on a fucking potatoe/pentium 4. Nice bloat faggot.

This year.

My laptop doesn't run that many games all that well but I was still able to get a better performance on Windows compared to Wine out of the games I tried. Albeit I didn't try something more graphically demanding.

>>807022

> overburden yourself using 17 year old software

If it works for him, there's absolutely no problem with it. No need to evangelize Linux to him like a pushy Morman. What I'd really like to know, is why the Japanese autist is so interested in writing the kernel extensions. It's one thing to use it, but to justify so much effort there must be a reason.

>>807064

*Mormon.

>>807064

>the Japanese autist

>autist

I think you answered your own question

He probably has some stupid reason like "I really like the dog in MS office"

>>807067

Hahaha. Good point.

>>807015 (OP)

>The OS absolutely screams, I can't believe how responsive and fluid it feels, and the best part is the total lack of flat metro cancer

<mein_niger.jpg

Keep an eye on ReactOS. If god willing Lunix dies, the OS in the shadows may grow faster. Though I worry if the bitches at MS won't crack down on ReactOS once it becomes big, or they would if it wasnt Russian.

>Microsoft's OS development really should have stopped with Windows 2000. Transition to 64-bit, dump some of the legacy compatibility crap no one cares about anymore gradually, harden it as vulnerabilities are discovered, tell glow i the dark cia niggers to fuck off with their backdoors, add new core technologies as their value is proven.

<mein_favorite_niger.jpg

From Prism slides apparently backdoors started being added in since Vista to today and ofc Win10 is full spyware and they don't even hide it anymore. That said remember NsaKey BS. Don't trust OS with closed source, that's one thing Torvalds said that wasn't BS.

>>807064

I'm not surprised really, the entire country absolutely loathes upgrading computers and using modern software. It wasn't too long ago that they were all using winxp and giving the finger to anything else.

>>807022

You can allegedly also install a broken version of Windows ME from a Windows XP install disc because Microsoft were lazy fucks and just merged their Windows ME installer to the in-development XP installer

>>807073

Vista was when PRISM was first implemented, however the weird NSAKey has existed since NT3 and that just sounds alarm bells.

>>807074

I've heard that they still use fax quite a lot. It's a good attitude to have though, the majority of office workers could easily get by with windows 95. Obviously people managed with it just fine when it was new, and their work load hasn't exactly changed.

>>807038

>linux software is absolutely shit

>use a 20 year old operating system with chink drivers to run internet explorer and windows media player

>>807097

And the full catalog of software written for Windows 95...

Not going to lie, this looks pretty comfy. OP, do you have a link to the Japanese kernel autist?

>>807068

>have really great pornstash from the early 2000's

>forgot password and the hard drive is a bit corrupted

>reverse engineer entire operating system and release it so people won't find out you wasted decades of your life for lewd jpg anime pics

>>807017

>>807023

I'm fairly sure Linux is quite a bit slower on older hardware, if you want to do everything that an older windows can do, like running X and more modern web browsers.

>>807182

There are plenty of X servers for Windows.

This looks cool, I am very interested. Do you have a link to share with us?

>>807345

Not OP, but I think this is it.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1299806.html

>>807191

it looks like one of those fake GUIs that are applied as a decal sticker on a nonfunctional toy computer for 3 year olds

>>807390

Looks like a shitty ubuntu fork.

>>807015 (OP)

>Using his extensions, you can run modern browsers/software.

Is this able to run the visual c++ 2017 command line tools? If I could replace my godawful bloated windows dev VM it would be heavenly.

>>807067

>>807181

The japanese tend to still use very old versions of windows; pre-win7, usually NT.

The UK pays MS for extended support. The japanese tend to not care so much for individual security as its a collectivist country (obvs when you look at borders and immigration enforcement).

>>807393

Exactly, it was made for engineers. Modern Mac is for people who don't want to be reminded they're on a computer.

>>807620

Won't someone kill this old=insecure myth already?

Security updates are but one layer of the many layers of good security (including but not limited to: antivirus, firewall, sandbox, encryption, backups, security updates). I'm tired of people saying old Win installations are insecure, especially when implying that new ones magically are.

More power to the OP for his choice. I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on. For little benefit to the end user, who ends up being a beta tester of sorts. RANT OVER.

>>807635

>antivirus

lmao

>I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on. For little benefit to the end user, who ends up being a beta tester of sorts.

You are the fool. Developers work to benefit themselves, which is why everyone is moving to the web where they have effective forced updating.

>>807660

See >>807362

It's in Japanese, so you may need to use Google Translate or something.

>>807635

>I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on.

That's not an opinion Peggie. They do it for money. There are plenty of businesses in the headlines that refused to update so you're in good company.

>>807620

>The UK pays MS for extended support

Does that mean patches/security hotfixes? how can we get them

>>807660

>>807171

1- You install your favorite flavor of Windows 2000 (from CD for extra authenticity)

2- You install SP4 and a bunch of security rollup hotfixes

3- Install every update from this pack: http://win2k.dyniform.net/windows-2000-update-pack.html

4- Get the latest version of KernelEx from the Japanautiste http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/

... K-meleon or Pale Moon

... Winamp 2.9 or foobar 2000

... Office 2000 and service packs for authenticity and fast as fuck doc editing

... Photoshop 7 (personally stick to 5.5)

Feel the warm glow of nostalgia as your system boots in seconds and feels so fucking fast doing 90%+ of what you want. Die a little bit inside when you realize this could have been the future we had, but instead we got a high viral load web 3.0 numale cuck hellscape.

Next challenge: Install Windows 2000 on an HP Evo desktop with a Core 2 Quad

>>807730

Does windows 2000 properly support more than two cores/processors?

>>807733

* Windows 2000 Professional will support up to two processors.

* Windows 2000 Server will support up to four processors.

* Windows 2000 Advanced Server will support up to eight processors.

* Windows 2000 Datacenter Server will support up to thirty-two processors.

So I'll be trying Server and de-serverifying it.

>>807734

So potentially I could get my 8320e to run Windows 2000 to its full potential with the right Add-on cards? That's something I've got to try at some point.

With all this effort and expert knowledge going into hacking and supporting an outdated OS, I feel its ironic how many people say Windows is easier than Lignux.

>>807728

>Feel the warm glow of nostalgia as your system boots in seconds and feels so fucking fast doing 90%+ of what you want. Die a little bit inside when you realize this could have been the future we had, but instead we got a high viral load web 3.0 numale cuck hellscape.

I already died a little bit inside many years ago, when I tried out DamnSmallLinux in all its 50 MB glory. That's when I learned what "software bloat" means, and it's been a nightmarish ride into Bloatville ever since. We haven't stopped yet. We may never.

>>807922

>I already died a little bit inside many years ago, when I tried out DamnSmallLinux in all its 50 MB glory.

If you want to go further down the rabbit hole, see what 64 KB can do: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=59105

What about 1 KB: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=68360

What we experience is beyond bloat, it is the combined effort of all of mankind to actively ruin something that should just work.

>>807926

Bloat is inevitable imo.

>>807930

Nah, it's just because we have just shitty coders these days, with all those retards reinventing the wheel every single fucking day in a new meme language instead of reusing well-made, stable, proven open frameworks, that stack unproven technologies on top of each other without considering for a single second the complexity nor performance hit because they're completely ignorant about how computers work, and being so completely clueless about what computers are and what people expect from them.

Any attempt at simplifying the development process of software should be fucking stopped. It's hard, and that's how things are, yet it didn't stop countless people from learning and mastering it all, and delivering quality software. As long as people learn fucking learn fucking assembly, C, and ONE higher level language such as Python or Lua, there shouldn't be any issue with bloat.

>>811963

>The UI was fine and there was nothing better during the time

<4Dwm was and is better.

>4Dwm in 1989

>that image

LOL. Check your dates son. 4dwm in 1989 was garbage and barely progressed beyond stock motif wm.

>Thanks for proving my point. It's pretty much just the graphical parts.

Graphical? How about the entire platform. Cocoa, interprocess communication through Objective C (smalltalk), the libraries, the other AppKit APIs. There's a reason why you can drag-and-drop NeXT programs into xCode and have them working in 30 minutes. Hell, half the apps and icons in modern OSX are FOSS and are literally the same as they were on NeXTSTEP. You can pull the Textedit.app source right now from Apple's website.

Not only do NeXT and OSX share a similar MACH/FREEBSD Kernel, the OSX platform is directly descended from NeXT. Windows10's variant of Win32 is descended from Win 9x's variant WinAPI and win16.

What kind of pajeet programmer are you that you can't keep track of what platform you're developing on?

>>813569

>Obj C (Smalltalk)

>Win 10 isn't based on DEC VAX VMS

>>807050

>Use obscure hardware peripherals without having a BA in computer science for starters

Yeah, same. That's why people run Windows on old MIPS workstations, POWER9 servers, embedded ARM devices, and so on.

Oh wait.

>>813888 (trips checked)

Ah, the HIG. It should be the Holy Bible of every developer: learn the HIG, obey the HIG. Good usability comes from consistent appearance and behavior, so never deviate from the HIG unless you truly have to.

And I just remembered another peculiar behavior of the Mac (I can't recall if they have changed it since). What happens if you copy a folder to where there is already another folder with an identical name? Windows tries to merge the folders, keeping the content of both. The Mac just replaces the old folder entirely. Whatever was in there is erased.

I can't decide which one is more logical now.

>>813907

The replace approach (after a warning, of course) seems less liable to cause confusion. But IMHO the Mac shouldn't have given any privilege to filenames, pathnames, or directory hierarchies whatsoever, at least on an internal implementation level (that said, on a technologically arbitrary UI level, preventing items with the same name from being in the same folder might have some merit from a human factors perspective, but not having to deal with "Untitled Document 2/3/4/5/etc" does sound very convenient to me). The "alias" system already relied on Db-style unique identifiers, as did the "resource fork" format, so demoting the traditional "filesystem" to a purely secondary role would've been trivial. And it would've meant being able to use ":" in filenames

>>813722

All of those actions still apply to modern MacOS.

>>807015 (OP)

How hard would it be to create a better (but illegal) version of ReactOS with leaked source+wine+reverse engineered components? There is darknet git already, the technology is ready.

Thoughts on Parabola?

>>813960

Wasn't the "OpenNT" project secretly this?

https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33250

http://stephanos.io/archives/21

>Comfiest OS

that does not look like Plan9 to me

>>814006

>implying

>>813993

What if you do it openly, without pretending to give a shit about the law?

>>814089

Even if your don't give a shit about the law, the law gives a shit about you.

>>814125

The closest thing to mystery software I can think of was early releases of Bitcoin by the (presumably Japanese) "Satoshi Nakamoto".

>>813969

Parabola is Arch done right. Most underrated OS available.

>>814143

Also, since 10.7, because the Library folder is full of cryptic *N*X legacy garbage and .plist files that aren't supposed to be tinkered with by mere mortals, all of the Library and System folders have been made invisible by default.

>>814125

>>814128

>silk road/agora/etc (not software)

>ultrahle

>piracy release groups

>most original stuff on .onion git hosting sites

>>814151

In Linux/BSD, the lib folder is used for lib files which are linked against. OSX apps are statically linked so they wouldn't need this. In Linux/BSD, you have numerous .folders which store user generated cache files and settings in home. In OSX ~/Library is the dumping ground for all of this. The main /Library folder in OSX is more like a /usr/share. So you see, Apple's Library is their own creation and has almost nothing to do with *NIX.

>>807064

>No need to evangelize Linux to him like a pushy Morman

The irony is that this is what all the old windows 2000/xp users do when they try to justify how amazing microsofts abandoned 20+ year old OS is/was.

>>814151

>he can't edit .plist files

Nigger, shits no different from your .rc files

>>814352

https://github.com/mistydemeo/tigerbrew

>>807023

>Windows 95 Icons

>Not the Superior 98/2000 icons

disgusting

>>807064

>What I'd really like to know, is why the Japanese autist is so interested in writing the kernel extensions.

Windows 2000/NT5 is still very popular in Japan, for a good reason, it was the last sane Windows GUI. It was also the last time things worked properly before all these meme UX designers came in and fucked everything up.

>>814900

How is that possible?

>>814900

>search bar embedded in start menu

Still shit.

>>814900

Yeah, but what about the rest of the UI? What does Control Panel look like for instance?

>>815268

The control panel in windows 10 can still be viewed in classic view. It has barely changed since win95 days.

>>814896

>he thinks UX designers are responsible for the abortion of modern Windows

>not retarded middle management that slap things together in powerpoint

>>814900

Reminder that ricing Windows has never been difficult (also, Windowblinds actually runs faster than MS's own skins):

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

>>814321

You can unhide your ~/Library/ folder and monkey with it to your heart's content of course. This is required to install certain components which don't have a proper installer, but they figure if you know what you're doing they're not going to actually stop you.

The way they handle this is kind of nice too, you can install most everything into either the /Library/ folder or your own private ~/Library/ folder if you don't want all user accounts to use some extension or library. Most people will never have to touch it of course.

>>815280

No, it was dumbfucks like you who bought into Windows Vist- I mean 7.

>>817021

All your plists are also kept in ~/Library.

A lot cleaner than spreading everything out in .config, .local/share, and just spread out on ~/ like a mess.

>>815281

>windowblinds

Nope. Tried it before. It's still a makeshift solution with compatibility issues. If you use Windows, you better put up with Microsoft's complete lack of taste.

>>817059

Reminder that this was done because an early UNIX dev machine ran out of HDD space as the OS bloated beyond its boot volume's capacity, so they started jamming other folders full of OS components just to hack UNIX into fitting on their secondary and tertiary HDDs.

>>817247

At least it's better than current versions of OSuX, which have broken both Kaleidoscope and Shapeshifter, in spite of Apple's regularly introducing random new app-specific themes that radically clash with each other whenever some internal hipster devteam gets a "cool" idea.

>>807015 (OP)

>these aliased fonts

>combined with jpeg compression

ugh, I feel like I stepped in a pile of shit

>>807635

>Won't someone kill this old=insecure myth already?

Except full retard. People have discovered that computer security is national security recently, and it keeps getting more important.

Windows XP didn't even separate privileges, running firefox on admin account was literally running firefox as root. Retarded.

As os's have aged they have come with new security features that are actually improvements. The architecture of old software is insecure.

All that is to say nothing of security fixes for errata that exists without back-ported security fixes.

>>807038

Very original. Protip:you know jackshit about linux softwares.

>>807050

Implying windows haven't broke driver ABI even among NT kernels too

>>807191

Installing it still a pain in ass.

>>815281

XP SP3 made it difficult. IDC about other versions.

>>807015 (OP)

Enjoy:

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/How-NSA-access-was-built-into-Windows-3444341.html

windows 10

why does no one ever talk about os2?

specifically MODERN OS2 https://www.arcanoae.com/ I really wanna use this but I can't find a torrent and if you think im paying for os2 ur fucking NUTS

this is basically my dream os tbh, it can run dos+win3.1 programs, I think win95 programs (not sure) and ofc all the os2 programs, plus modern shit that is being made for it.

>>814352

pkgsrc has been ported to Tiger also

http://sevan.mit.edu/

http://www.pkgsrc.org/

I have felt for a long time that I should build some sort of windows 2000

>>829438

meant to say some sort of windows 2000 rig

>>814887

>woman in tech

>it's a tranny

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

>>829418

>why does no one ever talk about arca os

Because it is a commercial product, there seems to be no torrent of it, and not many people are willing to spend $130 just to try a service pack for a mostly forgotten system from 20 years ago.

>>818715

Even without any customization, and some very questionable recent decisions, macOS still has a much better interface than Windows, especially the flat abomination of Windows 10.

>>829452

>>>/g/

>>>/reddit/

sage

>>829477

Stop giving him (you)s.

>>814352

10.7.5 is fucking great, im using it now on a black a1181. it runs wine and windows programs great, anything I can't run I can just boot into the windows 7 partition. early x86 osx was just as good, if not better due to more hardware support.

I would love to upgrade to 10.8 but apple has no 64x driver for the graphics on this specific computer.

>>814151

ur gay if you dont edit shit to be the way you want it

anyway the MOST comfy os's are :

DOS6.22

Win 3-xp

os2

macos9 (best os ever made tbh no linux will ever come close)

if you want security go with hardware and software from at least 10 years ago

also to the linuxheads who think linux runs better than xp or 2000, I have an X41 running all 3, xp,2000, and linux. p much all linux distros are dropping support for 32bit, so there will soon be NO repos for any packages on linux for me, I have to use a multi year old version of network manager because any new version just breaks wifi totally. and the version that DOES work does not even show any networks unless i do a iwconfig command to specify a (any) ssid, after that the list of ssid's will load and I can connect. It will occasionally just turn off. this is not just an issue on that computer, I have a chromebook that will do something similar on linux, where the wifi will just stop working after a while and require a reboot to fix. this does not happen on either computer when running XP. Also windows is SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER on both computers vs linux, since it isnt a bloated garbagefire

the linux community is in shambles, wayland is a fucking joke ( I TRIED IT WITH PLASMA ITS GARBAGE) systemd is ruining and bloating everything, audio configuration is still insane (good luck specifying inputs and outputs on a built in mobo soundcard) p much everyone in open source, actually in the tech industry in general, is a fag or a communist or worse, they are directly causing the decay in quality software(probably deliberately since their religion is the worship of filth). anyone who even THINKS any "modern" OS is anywhere near as powerful or elegant as even the OLDEST usable os is fucking insane. 2000, OS9, OS2, those were the PEAK of perfection. improvements continued but the decay started there. xp had that fucking fisher price default theme, vista was the start of pejetsoft. sure windows 7 is a big improvement, so much that most people still use it, but then 8 came with more street shitter tech, than 10, I use 10 on my workstation computer since it is basically required. If you want to debotnet windows 10 you need to be a much more advanced user than the vast majority of people, its an OK os if you take multiple days to manually block everything, write your own reg keys, and do various fixes over time as more problems WILL arise later on. "MODERN" computers are so full of shit, its either pure S3 (STREET SHITTER SOFTWARE) (windows) or getting worse with every update (osx) or has no direction or goals besides destroying itself (linux)

at least funtoo is still good (FOR NOW)

>>814352

Just install ubuntu ppc lol

Rate my operating system guys

BITS 16
start:
	mov ax, 07C0h		; Set up 4K stack space after this bootloader
	add ax, 288		; (4096 + 512) / 16 bytes per paragraph
	mov ss, ax
	mov sp, 4096
	mov ax, 07C0h		; Set data segment to where we're loaded
	mov ds, ax
	mov si, text_string	; Put string position into SI
	call print_string	; Call our string-printing routine
	jmp $			; Jump here - infinite loop!
	text_string db 'Anons kickass OS guaranteed to fuck your mother', 0
print_string:			; Routine: output string in SI to screen
	mov ah, 0Eh		; int 10h 'print char' function
.repeat:
	lodsb			; Get character from string
	cmp al, 0
	je .done		; If char is zero, end of string
	int 10h			; Otherwise, print it
	jmp .repeat
.done:
	ret
	times 510-($-$$) db 0	; Pad remainder of boot sector with 0s
	dw 0xAA55		; The standard PC boot signature

>>829768

>Assembly bootloader

Get with the times grandpa, BIOS is so 80s. Everyone uses UEFI now with PE-based bootloaders written in C++

>>829771

plz no bully;-;

>>829768

are you going any further with it?

>>829788

That's the plan, writing the entire kernel from scratch

>>829823

ganbette!

also may I ask what are you writing it in? Assembly? C? Something else? lisp maybe?

>>829860

hopefully it's all assembly. won't be very portable but man it would run like a champ.

>>829823

very cool. keep us posted.

>>807182

run Minix or a BSD then, they're lighter on CPU than Linux

>>807932

Isn't that what MINIX turned out to be?

>>830106

check out MikeOS. personally i don't like its internal architecture but it's a good starting point.

>>830630

ArkOS is based on MikeOS.

https://github.com/JohnnyHobo/ArkOS

Needs a lot of improvement though, the kernel is pretty vulnerable and needs a few tweaks here and there, need to write some more syscalls, a C compiler, network stack, etc. but as it sits it's a fun little project.

>>807015 (OP)

i'm thinking the comfiest winblows is 7 Home Basic. It removes all the (((features))), and can have up to 8GB RAM which is still the max I need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart

what i've been doing is:

1. download a recent fully patched winblows 7 image

2. run it for a few months

3. never waste time getting updates and shit

4. go to step 1

>>807660

this is the second time someone reused one of my memes in the 12 years i've been channing :3

>>807191

Aww shit anon this was my first distro, ran it on a Compaq Presario 1240. Memories.

>>838035

>afraid of (((features)))

>proceeds to download an image backdoored by chinks

>>829709

ubuntu PPC is slow and unstable as shit.

If you wanted to match Tiger's speed on PPC you would have to go full gentoo and optimize everything.

>>818743

oh shit it's megabaitshit the baitening

>Windows XP didn't even separate privileges, running firefox on admin account was literally running firefox as root. Retarded.

there is no privilege separation in _any_ windows or Linux or mac you niggermonkey. if your machine gets owned the malware has access to everything you do from your file manager. the way you can spot Systems LARPers is when they believe running firefox as root or admin poses any additional risk to a desktop user

>As os's have aged they have come with new security features that are actually improvements. The architecture of old software is insecure.

there have been no fundamental changes to arch of _any_ modern OS which improves security in any way. Maybe ALSR in modern Linux but that's only a tiny mitigation

all popular OS are insecure. of course if you run one with an unpatched publically announced RCE vuln you're going to get pwned a lot faster

>>838266

this has nothing to do with security and all to do with spending an extra hour a day blasting through pointless goyware

>>838288

yeah but i don't update my winblows boxen. i just assume they are pwned and install a new updated version every couple months to keep it from slowing down from all the accumulated cancer

>>807191

What is that really cool icon set?

>>838533

>>838553

*-10

>>838553

nice argument. this doesn't change the fact that you have no idea how permission models work. I'll rephrase again so your nigger brain might understand:

Exploiting an RCE vuln in the browser on _any_ Windows machine (3.1, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, ...) means you have access to everything the account running the browser has access to, which for 99.99999% of Windows desktop users, that would be everything. Even if it was only restricted to what the browser has access to, that would still be pretty much everything the guy uses, because anything they log into these days is through the web. Even if you have 2FA the compromised browser can still do anything since you granted it a session. Even if there is an action that requires reauthentication (such as re-entering the password), the browser can just rearrange to make it look legitimate and trick the user (who is clueless on this topic - like you - and has no idea these things exist) and will most likely fall for it.

>>807064

Legacy software

>>829447

tranny whoremoans actually do help with autism for some reason.

>>807728

>win2k

>Fat32

You'll feel the warm glow of nostalgia when you're defragging it weekly.

>>838917

I wasn't the person you initially replied to but anyhow, everything you've said is well understood and pretty simple. It was your speech on gnu/linux that is faulty. You have a skindeep familiarity with the topics at hand, pls refrain from trying to sound like an authority.

>>829694

You reached the right conclusions by all the wrong reasons, but I'll take it.

I'm surprised there wasn't an open source continuation of Mac OS 9.2. Mac OS was truly the peak. I moved to 2000 once Apple switched and it was also nice, but I never touched OS2.

Is there somewhere with all the technical details for the classic Mac OS? I was a kid when I used it and never got to truly learn how it worked.

>>840373

SSDs can defrag in seconds nowadays - you don’t even notice it.

>>840541

Do you use chrome or why is your font rendering so terrible?

>>840413

are you telling me you didn't just randomly move things around, delete prefences, extensions, control panels, fonts, apple menu items, and other crap in the "System" folder?

man, it was the easiest hacking ever

too bad OS X is completely dog shit for anything like that today

hold down Shift to disable extensions.

what extensions?

extensions made the computer awesome.

>>840593

SSD's aren't supposed to be defragged anyways. There's no benefit and it just increases wear faster.

>>840622

Yes, oh yes I did. I was just a kid but I remember modifying the Aaron extension that let you use the glorious Platinum UI style on pre-System 8 Mac OS and making my own graphical tweaks that way.

What I meant is that I didn't get to know the underlying architecture. For instance, to this day I have a very vague idea of what the data fork and the resource fork were, and no idea regarding the boot process, what kind of bootloader it had, etc. The fact that it didn't have a command line interface was like fucking magic to me.

>>838542

What is that really cool icon set?

Mac OS snow leopard

>>829452

this tbh

>>829860

he said he's writing the entire kernel in scratch.

>>814895

Good luck finding Windows 2000 icons.

>>857742

>icewm

Good taste here. Best EHWM compliant stacking WM.

>>860637

Mainframe larping faggots are the reason why le cloud exists. If it were not you, we wouldn't have none of that Plan 9, Go, blockchain, Amazon Droplets, etc. cancer right now.

>>860706

>Plan9

install 9front

>>814900

Fake and gay

>>807015 (OP)

only turbo autists prefer that shit aesthetic

>>860871

only turbo autists browse /tech/

>>871233

Dude, just install ReactOS

>>871233

Can you post some details? I want to do this too.

Like this?

Intall Win2k, install SP4, install kernelex... is it that simple?

>>871263

Last time i checked ReactOS was still in a very early stage of development

How is the performance and driver/program support on there?

>>871285

Good enough to try it out.

>>871283

Everything is pretty easy, this video was the most helpful for me:

https://youtu.be/9uDXtJqdcKM

I also used this site for some downloads but it misses some important steps:

http://danika.jukor.net/win2000.html

First of all, make sure your hardware has drivers that work with Windows 2000, an internet connection and graphics drivers are very important.

Installing windows+updates and setting up the kernel extension shouldn't be an issue if you follow the steps from the video.

I would recommend you to get a Win2k Pro .iso with SP4 preinstalled and burn it to a CD/DVD

Make sure to get the English version, otherwise your updates won't work.

Win2k does not support installation from USB, you will get a bluescreen if you try it.

Isos: https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/final

Iso i used: https://winworldpc.com/download/413ce280-9436-18c3-9a11-c3a4e284a2ef

Key i used with this iso: J4WH4-JXX2W-3FYM7-QJBB8-XKWD8

Keys for any version can be found online.

You will have to download KernelEx from here:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1299806.html (the link in the youtube desc is broken)

You'll need google translate because the site is in japanese, i didn't know what the most stable version is so I just picked the latest (2.9b English, gives an error message when opening an installer but everything still works anyway)

Firefox ESR 52 is the most modern browser you can use with KernelEx, if you don't like the chromestralis theme you can install Classic Theme Restorer add-on.

You can find lists of other 2k-compatible software with or without kernelex online.

>>807038

>>>/g/

>>807015 (OP)

I hope you're just joking, OP

>>807038

>linux has superb software for software development

>no good software gets actually developed for linux

>>814318

XP was an ideal OS

>>807046

Wine is fucking amazing, you cuck.

>>814318

The Win32 API and NT driver model is stable enough that its trivial to allow modern drivers and software to run on them

You really can't say the same about Linux 2.4.x

->>807050

>implying you can run obscure peripheral on anything other than exact version of OS

Specific hardware is irrelevant to choosing operating system, because no choice present in that case - you use what vendor says.

>>875844

>>807050

>>871440

>no good shrinkwrap software gets actually developepd for linux

Fixed.

If you plan to sell software to mass market, you make it for os most consumers already have, which mean win or osx.

But once you are making software solution for specific client, unices are much more widespread.