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 No.1069449>>1069466 >>1069514 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Ever meet a web developer who was in technology for the love of technology and not the $$$?

 No.1069452>>1069456

I have never met someone who dissed web development and who was a competent programmer


 No.1069456>>1069463

>>1069452

>competent programmer

>not making fun of how stupid web development practices are


 No.1069463

>>1069456

yeah, it's shit, just like all commercial programming. you are going to suffer the moment engineering-by-management happens on any brand of programming job. webdev simply suffers more because of high demand and a lower bar for entry... created by these managerial sorts who wanted people who just knew html (and now javascript) to be able to "develop" sites.

now extrapolate these entrepreneurial beancounters to serious software engineering jobs, and guess what happens.


 No.1069466>>1069492 >>1069514

>>1069449 (OP)

web developers are known to say - 'I get the same problems in the middle of a coding process that they had in the beginning. We're supposed to just write code, and then make a decision about why we're doing it later.'

That is exactly how coding is supposed to work - you're expected to make the decision you want to make - not you, the person who is just putting the thing together.

The real problem with this approach is the lack of trust in the team. We don't trust someone who thinks she is better than me - or even you, your colleague - because of the things she is writing.

The result is an open channel between developers and the customers

A better approach is to create an internal chat room. These are things that your employees know intimately, they are not 'listening in on conversations'.

The company needs to be transparent in the way that it uses its chat rooms. It needs to be clear in order to engage with developers. It needs to create open channels in which developers can speak privately with each other to find out about issues raised.

Instead we are constantly asking, 'Is it ok for me to share my thoughts and opinions in public on my own chatroom? If the answer is no, then I should tell customers I'm sorry'.

But how do we go about this?


 No.1069492>>1069500

>>1069466

>We don't trust someone who thinks she is better than me - or even you, your colleague - because of the things she is writing.

>who thinks she is better than me

>who thinks she is

>she


 No.1069499

Yeah quite a few.


 No.1069500>>1069852

>>1069492

Fun fact: Every girl who ends up being a programmer has done physics.

Seriously why does every smart chick like physics so much


 No.1069514

>>1069449 (OP)

Define "academic" in any sense other than "intellectual" circle jerking about some stupid language that has little to no read world usability or application.

>java

>white man

move that javashit down a notch to the poo tier, shouldn't PHP be in the white mans tier as well?

>>1069466

>she

>implying you are a she

TITS or GTFO, roastie.


 No.1069852

>>1069500

t. Indian streetshitter LARPing as an aryan male




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