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>>1035302

Is very hard to automate wind notes using a keyboard.

>>1035305

You don't do it with your keyboard. You might as well not even use your keyboard. That's what DAWs are for.

>>1035306

I could imagine that would be tedious for a wind instrument without MIDI.

>>1035310

Sure it is, but not as tedious as trying to master the autistic electronic saxophone.

Not about MIDI, but as I write this, the most realistic musical instrument software is NotePerformer, you can download a demo for free for 1 month and use it with Sibelius/Dorico/some other notation software.

>>1035311

I don't know. In my opinion moving the velocity control for each individual note to emulate what would be a soft chord on a clarinet would be more time consuming than it's worth compared to learning the proper MIDI and going from there.

>>1035317

Depends whether you care about being able to play it on the instrument or not.

>>1035278 (OP)

Post some examples of what bar you're setting for "realistic." That will dramatically narrow the answer to your question.

Use this:

https://vis.versilstudios.com/vsco-community.html

or if you want to sacrifice your freedoms then use Symphony series from Native instruments.

>but It's quite rather dificult to control wind instruments using only a MIDI keyboard.

That's why you don't control the instrument with a keyboard. You write a score first and then automate and modulate the parameters to make it sound less robotic.

>Should I spend the money and get an EWI and learn it?

Do you already know how to play a wind instrument? Unless you're already an accomplished player I don't think there will be any benefit in using that thing. It's meant to be used more for live performances than recording. It also won't sound better than playing the samples in your DAW of choice.

>It's a good idea to get a wind controller for wind instruments?

No, why would you want that? Unless you're already very good with wind instruments it doesn't make sense to play the instrument instead of just writing the notes and editing automation for dynamics. It's hard enough to compose and you want to learn how to play every instrument in the orchestra? Good luck with that. Learning how to play classical instruments well requires life long dedication and a lot of practice. I don't think you'll ever be able to come close to a real instrument with some MIDI contraption. Maybe if your music becomes good enough one day you can get an real orchestra to play it for you. Until then stick to keyboard and mouse.

>>1035278 (OP)

anything by native instruments but you might have to pay a few hundred bucks for it

>>1035577

>Native Instruments

Make sure you really want it before you buy any hardware from them. Their physical instruments have a unique key attached to your native instruments id. You can transfer the key if you sell the device, but then you've got to go through NI's customer support. Also their driver support is terrible in my experience. But that's probably not a huge issue.

>I know a MIDI keyboard can make realistic piano and other keyboards easily, but It's quite rather dificult to control wind instruments using only a MIDI keyboard.

it's not a question of having a keyboard, it's a question of being able to encode timbre effects like modulation (conrete examples: bending a string on the guitar or other stringed instrument to curve the pitch over time, changing the way you blow in a wind instrument, etc). i think what midi can encode is very basic. i highly doubt you could make realistic sounding orchestras using software aside from a few ultra high end things which probably then become super limited in what they can do (like, it will only have a few types of violin and not the other 30 instruments you want)

you can certainly use score editors and stuff to make realistic orchestra pieces conceptually, but they will sound fake unless you give the notes to an orchestra and get them to play it

>>1035347

> >Should I spend the money and get an EWI and learn it?

>Do you already know how to play a wind instrument? Unless you're already an accomplished player I don't think there will be any benefit in using that thing. It's meant to be used more for live performances than recording. It also won't sound better than playing the samples in your DAW of choice.

They're very queer to play and don't feel "real" winds. Those that aren't MIDI-only contain mediocre synths that are awkward enough to setup that you end up using presets instead. Recording audio or MIDI off of them is quite uncomfortable because of the form factor, where the connectors are placed and how the cables pull and tug and get in the way. They're fun toys but don't pay several hundreds of dollars for one.

>>1040391

>wind player discovers wires

You get used to them as long as they're long enough, the trick is tucking them under the instrument's strap

t. electric bassist