Comparison between Tor and i2p?What are the differences between just booting up tor browser/entering the network and running i2p?Are there any imageboards or any random interests websites on i2p or is it dead?I boot up tor frequently to see how stuff

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▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 17:48:25 No.1031409>>1031418 >>1031429 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Comparison between Tor and i2p?

What are the differences between just booting up tor browser/entering the network and running i2p?

Are there any imageboards or any random interests websites on i2p or is it dead?

I boot up tor frequently to see how stuff is going and visit a few imageboards, been listening about i2p for a few years but never did any search.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 18:13:31 No.1031418>>1031422 >>1031475

>>1031409 (OP)

i2p is slow and high latency tor is not i2p is also more decentralized than tor that always connects to some hardcoded servers before you get to the network.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 18:22:09 No.1031422

>>1031418

Slower than tor? How slow?

I mean imageboards still mean images but it's not like I'm doing any high loads over the network.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 18:27:25 No.1031428>>1031465 >>1043197

Both projects have different goals and priorities. Tor is built with browsing the clearnet in mind, but its hidden services are an afterthought and it doesn't play nice with P2P. I2P, on the other hand, is built for hidden services and P2P but you can't browse the clearnet without an outproxy.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 18:28:47 No.1031429

>>1031409 (OP)

tor is onion routing. your packet is enclosed by 3 or more additional packets around it.

i2p is what they call garlic routing. your packet is included with a bunch of different packets and sent through the network.

tor is used mostly for connecting to clearnet, while i2p (invisible internet project) attempts to create a surreptitious network within the internet.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 19:00:22 No.1031443>>1031447 >>1031454 >>1031472

No proof-of-work or proof-of-stake is required to create an identity, so none of the networks is anonymous.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 19:02:46 No.1031447>>1031451

>>1031443

>create identity

>anonymous

nice meme. the identity would only be used to ban people with wrong opinions.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 19:04:22 No.1031451

>>1031447

I mean, the relay nodes

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 19:17:59 No.1031454

>>1031443

i2p doesn't claim to be anonymous, but it doesn't matter because both of them leak the IP's bootstrapped and connected in the network.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 19:57:56 No.1031465>>1031475

>>1031428

Last time I used i2p I could directly connect to clearnet websites without having to configure anything. Even TLS connections seemed to be working so outproxies can't (not perfectly sure about this though) perform MITM attacks. I think they enable outproxies by default now.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:08:59 No.1031472

>>1031443

>this is what cryptofags actually believe

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:11:05 No.1031475>>1031481 >>1031496

>>1031418

>i2p is slow

If you've just connected to it, sure. Let it run for some time, and the speed picks up substantially.

>>1031465

false.i2p is a sorta semi-official I2P outproxy (available by default in i2pd), but it just shoves your traffic through Tor, so it goes (You) -> I2P -> Tor -> clearnet.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:17:38 No.1031481

>>1031475 I2P has many CP, but Tor has more! I really wanna marry child brides!

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:32:39 No.1031496>>1031504 >>1031516

>>1031475

But TLS works as expected right? I remember someone saying that outproxies had to perform MITM attacks to work because i2p wasn't designed to route clearnet connections in the first place. Did that change since then?

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:43:11 No.1031504

>>1031496

i2p works similarly to tor, except inside one i2p packet there are numerous packets from users on the network, and you are required to route for other users. when the final node in the route gets a request for a clearnet packet request, if it has the outproxy configured, it will run as an outproxy and pass the request / ack through.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:45:49 No.1031508

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▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 20:59:57 No.1031513>>1031524

>setup i2p

>setup has been retarded so far

>while some might tell me to eat shit, my belief is that by not providing a browser actually diminishes privacy since people can single out who you are easier through useragent, js etc etc

>try to acess a single link

>please add hostname to file x and restart

>try to acess another link

>add hostname to file x and restart

Is this seriously how this is supposed to work, adding a ton of hostnames all the time?

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 21:04:26 No.1031516

>>1031496

>But TLS works as expected right?

I haven't had any issues.

>i2p wasn't designed to route clearnet connections in the first place.

Well, yes. Unlike Tor, which has always been a distributed proxy first and foremost, I2P focuses on the overlay network aspect, and regards outproxying as an afterthought. The other important part is that I2P is UDP-based, whereas you (usually) need TCP for clearnet.

>Did that change since then?

There are tools to tunnel TCP. The outproxy will then just pass it to Tor or let it go out directly, depending on configuration.

▶Anonymous 02/15/19 (Fri) 21:31:52 No.1031524

>>1031513

Not hostnames. And you don't need to restart for it to take effect either. That defeats the purpose of i2p.

▶Anonymous 02/16/19 (Sat) 01:38:07 No.1031600>>1031611 >>1043207 >>1043418

i2p = java shit = shit

Tor = compiled into machine code. = good

▶Anonymous 02/16/19 (Sat) 02:13:09 No.1031611

>>1031600

theres i2pd if you dont like java

▶Anonymous 02/16/19 (Sat) 05:04:31 No.1031643>>1032009

I2p has a booru with a surprising amount of content. It's not very practical given the size of the network. And it isn't organized well (can only enter 2 tags too).

There is a Chinese imageboard and many Russian imageboards. No english boards that I can think of.

The network is a lot slower than Tor, but it's very good for torrenting. If you're looking for something specific there probably won't be a torrent for it unless it's popular, but if there's still a lot of content. And joining the network always helps.

If you're just looking at text or small thumbnails it should be fast enough.

▶Anonymous 02/17/19 (Sun) 02:46:30 No.1032009>>1044114 >>1044123 >>1044579

>>1031643

Does i2p have good child pornography content? Tor network does (check it if you don't believe me)

▶Anonymous 02/17/19 (Sun) 05:04:13 No.1032038>>1044815

tor = anonymous access to clearnet with hidden sites as an afterthought

i2p = hidden sites(eepsites) with anonymous access to clearnet as an afterthought

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 08:21:14 No.1043197

>>1031428

> is built with browsing the clearnet in mind, but its hidden services are an afterthought

what are you babbling, glownigger? TOR is the engine for accessing the blindnet

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 09:50:20 No.1043207>>1044762

>>1031600

what's wrong with java other than it's mainstream?

does it have security flaws or something?

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 21:57:54 No.1043418>>1043422

>>1031600

>>1043271

Nigger, are you retarded? That article is about JavaScript, not Java. Despite the similar-sounding names, they're two completely different languages with almost nothing in common.

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 22:03:09 No.1043422>>1043425

>>1043418

Alright then, you link something.

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 22:06:01 No.1043425>>1043435

>>1043422

About what?

▶Anonymous 03/19/19 (Tue) 22:46:28 No.1043435>>1044048

>>1043425

Never mind, this seems more fitting.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2476563/zero-day-broker-exploits-vulnerability-in-i2p-to-de-anonymize-tails-users.html

▶Anonymous 03/22/19 (Fri) 07:45:20 No.1044048>>1044071

>>1043435

>new security hole in Tails

>i2p users aren't anonymous

>anyone can break tor

They sure packed a lot of FUD in there for an article that has absolutely no information.

▶Anonymous 03/22/19 (Fri) 09:29:56 No.1044071>>1044449

>>1044048

I posted it and thought the same after, but who knows I guess. I mean really, I think if they wanted to get to you they could discover an IP somehow, powerful agencies with high computing capabilities. Most people aren't even a target of an attack or inquiry though.

▶Anonymous 03/22/19 (Fri) 13:18:36 No.1044113>>1044550

I think they used to be a couple of image boards on i2p or tor But I think some of them got taken down or hacked Every image board I visited on there so far was taken down already or compromised I've tried setting up an image board tunneling through i2p But the ivChan doesn't like proxies for some reason Plus I was trying to host it on a machine underneath my desk which probably wasn't a good idea

▶Anonymous 03/22/19 (Fri) 13:21:26 No.1044114

>>1032009

The only reason why I use i2p is because it really doesn't have that And that's something I wouldn't go around asking people or saying You will be in a pool full of shit

▶Anonymous 03/22/19 (Fri) 14:06:34 No.1044123

>>1032009

It had. But most of such sites got shut down by their owners because they got tortured by their conscience.

▶Anonymous 03/23/19 (Sat) 19:39:11 No.1044449

>>1044071

Yeah and things like i2p, tor, and tails definitely protect you from blanket attacks/surveillance. Most people aren't actually targeted by alphabet soup agencies.

▶Anonymous 03/23/19 (Sat) 22:24:40 No.1044481

There will be no difference once SYSTEMD absorbs TORah

▶Anonymous 03/23/19 (Sat) 22:49:28 No.1044487

I2P isn't as susceptible to sync attacks, use it. Tor is just more useful for accessing clearnet and has more services.

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 02:39:17 No.1044550>>1044551

>>1044113

Yeah nothing seems to stay up

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 02:46:02 No.1044551

>>1044550

and that is the truth sadly

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 05:21:06 No.1044568>>1044579

>Check porn sites

>80% are CP

>19% are bestiality

>1% boring images

>Just go on the clearnet and masturbate to jailbait videos

tor is p.shit tbh fam

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 06:10:32 No.1044579>>1044580

>>1044568

Nobody was talking about porn you fucking moron. Except for >>1032009 who is probably just shitposter or COINTELPRO.

Why would you even think there is better legal porn on tor than on clearnet?

Does anyone know if i2pd works well?

I tried it some time ago but it was always slow as shit if it worked at all. Even after I figured out how to set up traffic shaping.

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 06:32:29 No.1044580>>1044593

>>1044579

Try reading the thread faggot

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 07:44:01 No.1044593>>1044742 >>1044808

>>1044580

>Try reading the thread faggot

Can you be more specific, r-tard?

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 19:46:00 No.1044742

>>1044593

I wouldn't even bother the guy is about as retarded as me In which case I wouldn't even respond

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 20:56:38 No.1044762

>>1043207

Yes, Java has a fuck ton of security flaws.

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 22:01:03 No.1044776>>1044778

Curious what Tor/I2P enthusiasts think about Solid, Tim Berners-Lee's own attempt at a decentralized web.

▶Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 22:12:26 No.1044778>>1044904

>>1044776

>reinventing the wheel

GNUnet exists. Let's focus on that.

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 02:36:35 No.1044808

>>1044593

>can't find relevant post in a 47 post thread

Remember anon, suicide is always an option

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 03:34:39 No.1044815

>>1032038

Make sure that you don't use Wickr or Telegram or ProtonMail when you deal with CP, drugs, and terrorism.

Some stupid people believe that Wickr or Telegram or ProtonMail is safe even they address drugs or CP.

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 12:43:01 No.1044904>>1044928

>>1044778

GNUnet and Solid are not anonymous so I just use I2P and Tor.

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 15:13:54 No.1044928>>1044969

>>1044904

>GNUnet

>Not anonymous

Stop the FUD right there, you glow-in-the-dark.

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 15:38:01 No.1044934

https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor

▶Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 17:55:09 No.1044969

>>1044928

I still haven't figured out how to use gnunet.

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