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The optimal Windows distribution to run is Windows 7 Home Basic, Windows XP, or previous Windens. Windows Vista, 8, and 10 have no use. Windows 7 is only accpetable if you can't run the software on XP or earlier. You should also turn off updates and reimage the machine as often as possible (to make up for pajeet's RCE bugs). Software is a product, not a fucking web platform that (((changes))) every day. If you want a shitty inconsistent expierence and not ever be able to figure out what is breaking what, enable updates.

Does Enterprise LTSC N have automatic updates? Is it better than Server 2016 Database Edition?

>>1014401 (OP)

> It has no apps (or even the ability to install them)

So it can run NOTHING, because app is short for application. Any program is an application. Photoshop is an app as much as the goddamn stock ticker is.

>>1014414

It can run win32 Applications.

It can't run Windows "Apps" (aka Universal App Platform)

>>1014401 (OP)

Much appretiated.

I'll stick to Win7 and move to this when I get a Ryzen

>>1014401 (OP)

>using windows

>you can pirate

>pirate

You need to take the Freedom pill.

>>1014418

Can it run cracked UWP games and software?

>>1014458

>UWP games and software

>UWP ...

It's mostly phone app garbage and all UWP games are from Microsoft. You can really live without UWP.

>>1014458

>UWP

Thankfully no.

>>1014458

whatever the fuck that is it can be worked around without too much work

>>1014459

There's a small amount of games that are only available on UWP. Also the Dolby software for encoding atmos is only on the MS store.

k good to know thx

>Can't afford ~30 dollars

You honestly have bigger concerns than your OS. Or should anyway.

>>1014540

It's not about the money. You can't buy a somewhat unnpozzed version like LTSB/LTSC as a normal person.

>>1014563

Or you could invest your money into improving free software that doesn't act treacherously like Microsoft does.

>>1014405

Why Home Basic?

>With the death of Windows 7/8 approaching

what death?

>many new HW drivers will only support Windows 10 and so this information should be given to gamers to prevent them from being Jewd.

<buying newest backdoored hardware

>>1014405

>The optimal Windows distribution to run is Windows 7 Home Basic, Windows XP, or previous Windens. Windows Vista, 8, and 10 have no use. Windows 7 is only accpetable if you can't run the software on XP or earlier.

but fucking Sorozilla and Tor niggers dropped support for XP with firefox60 and torbrowser8. so people on 2000 or xp would neet to run win7 virtual machine to run it

>>1014534

>Also, when this happens and win7 machines all turn into Russian botnet, what OS will I use for gayms?

they won't turn into russian botnet, just like win2000 or winxp doesn't. all you need is:

-use internet behind NAT (or have router or device that will put your PC behind NAT)

-have software firewall that will be in Block Everything policy. only allow software that you want to use internet

>>1014563

>It's not about the money. You can't buy a somewhat unnpozzed version like LTSB/LTSC as a normal person.

there is no unpozzed version of Windows 10

Fuck no. The builds for Enterprise LTSB are too old. You don't get Windows Subsystem for Linux.

>>1014606

Because you need it to use more than 2GB of RAM and x64.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart

>>1014612

>trusting windows to run Tor correctly

ishygtdgythgtggt. If I wanted to run something anonymously on Windows I'd connect it to a router that only forwards traffic to Tor.

>>1014612

>what the fug is torsocks and proxy

>i need a bundled web browser

LOL

>>1014419

win7 werks on ryzen

https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc

Only reason I even have a windows partition anymore is for muh gaymes, but even still there's no valid reason to install w10

>>1014635

And why not Pro rather than Home Basic?

>>1014401 (OP)

>Still not enough windows 10 users

>I will try to target basic windows 10 users saying that you can get the official pirate windows 10 enterprise, but I'm really after the other windows 7 users

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>>1014616

>using Windows as a primary OS

Pretty sure that OP is for maintaining legacy systems, not running it in client machines.

>>1014405

>Windows 7 Home Basic

More like windows/NSA. Chances are you will get all the necessary remote desktop surveillance shit working especially after you get your SP1 update. I love how intelligence agents always shill 7 being better than vista while the fact still exists that it is widely the most obvious vector for the likes of your global TRAC system.

>not suggesting the best version which is is Windows Vista Home Premium

I'd pick vista any day. The fact that I need that extra graphics memory which 7 doesn't utilize for some reason and that vista has better tablet PC support than 7-8-10 or linux/mac ever will.

Could easily notice the delays with Windows 7 since I've used Vista for a long time and general graphics and performances were a lot smoother on vista too though you'll have trouble finding a clean copy of a vista ISO since (((they literally want us to use 7 and still shill it))).

Also

>Windows previous versions = Bill Gates

>Windows Vista = Bill Gates ; code completely written from scratch

Problems:

-people were too dumb to read about UAC and hated the change

-people were too dumb to disable aero and vista defaulted the aero theme which runs dogshit on dogshit hardware and hated the change because XP didn't run dogshit obviously

>Windows 7 = Steve Ballmer ; code is just a bloated version of vista disabling

-saving face version. is actually just vista with code spaghetti above it

-finally they disabled the annoying UAC on anything because people are too dumb to read

-finally it does gpu/cpu experience index assessment after os installation to make dogshit not run dogshit and disable aero - dumb people of course liked it

-finally XP support was better - boomer shit since vista was trying to innovate by not recycling code from XP

>Windows 8 = Ballmer + Pajeets

Problems:

-start menu fags crying at night

-driver nightmare after update from 7 or to 8.1

-linux, meet UEFI patched after ubunut fags cried for a while and had to buy wangblows secureboot signing keys

At least the graphics got a whole lot better.

>Windows 10 =

-finally start menu nostalgia fags stop crying but the entire shit pajeet poo system will auto update while you play CS:GO

-driver nightmare, also login screen of death

-we have Windows SxS so you can run lonux natively and we'll delete your grub entry on the boot partition with automatic* updates*

>>1015071 *

>Windows 10 = PAJEET

>>1014635

>Because you need it to use more than 2GB of RAM and x64.

who needs 2GB of ram or more? only people that use web browsers

>If I wanted to run something anonymously on Windows I'd connect it to a router that only forwards traffic to Tor.

all routers are backdoored

also if you use transparent routing like this, all malware and spyware in windows and software you installed will still work, it will just send data over Tor

>>1014644

>i need a bundled web browser

you need if you want privacy and not being fingerprinted to death

>>1015071

>Could easily notice the delays with Windows 7 since I've used Vista for a long time and general graphics and performances were a lot smoother on vista too

>-people were too dumb to disable aero and vista defaulted the aero theme which runs dogshit on dogshit hardware and hated the change because XP didn't run dogshit obviously

Microsoft niggers made a change in windows 7 compared to Vista, that when you use classic theme, in Windows 7 it's not rendered using hardware acceleration (GPU), but it's fully in software.

>-start menu fags crying at night

start menu is superior to everythin I saw

>>1014419

>>1014767

Yup, Win7 runs like a dream on Ryzen. Just make sure your mobo has 7 drivers available.

>>1015085

>start menu is superior to everythin I saw

Tell that to krunner.

>>1014528

this

If you want to run windows 10, then either use windows update or don't install updates at all. why would you want to use (((3rd party))) proprietary update tool?

>>1014534

>>1014405

But Microsoft/NSA probably backported their Botnet10 spyware into Windows 7 (and perhaps into XP and vista, too)

>>1014616

> You don't get Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Use cygwin or a real linux distro like a white man. why would you use windows 10 and the Linux subsystem, when in reality you want to just use GNU/Linux? At this point, the only reasons to use Windows are games or visual studio (for .net) or some other windows-only proprietary software that doesn't run in wine.

This shit is less convenient to use than Linux. Nobody who hates w10 will run this.

>>1015509

Anyone who suggests/promotes Windows that isn't 7 is some level of brain dead, so it's not surprising.

>Pirating botnet software

What a jolly good idea!

>>1015512

It's funny to see how quickly tech savy anons grow old, stop caring, and become indistingushable from the dumb relatives they loved to complain about.

>>1014405

Do new hardware even have drivers for XP ? that might be A SMALL problem

>>1015517

><7 and older

except Vista

>>1015712

>Just need a ps/2 keyboard to use the boot menu

Motherboards are starting to come without PS/2 ports.

>>1015712

Because you need to patch the ISO to install it on Ryzen computers, which is a pain in the ass, and then you're gonna be spied on anyways unless you disable the updates or risk it by only installing the ones recommended by some random anon who tried to figure out which ones were spyware.

Not to mention it's showing its age, with shit like primitive or non existent DPI scaling, no WSL, no system level ISO mounting, probably some incompatible programs and drivers at this point, etc.

>>1015716

>Motherboards are starting to come without PS/2 ports.

That's why you buy the ones that do have them

>>1015719

>Because you need to patch the ISO to install it on Ryzen computers

If you're talking about having the usb driver being installed the Gigabyte windows image tool basically installs it for you so all you have to do is get the copy on windows it gives you and install it normally with a ps/2 keyboard for the beginning that is

>>1015719

>no WSL

Why the fuck would you use this shit when Cygwin and, you know, actual GNULinux exists?

As for mounting, yes you can. It's called WinCDEmu.

>>1015722

Cygwin is a shit, and virtual machines are bloat. What about this is difficult to understand?

>>1015724

>virtual machines

Just install it, faggot

>>1015720

I've tried it but it didn't work for some reason. The program is shitty pajeetware.

>>1015720

>Why would you use software A? Software B is perfectly good if you restrict yourself to this specific set of hardware!

You might not think the trade-off is worth it, but come on, you gotta admit it's a valid reason. Especially if he already bought the hardware without knowing it wasn't compatible.

>>1015722

Cygwin requires you to either install shit through the annoying setup.exe GUI or go through the effort of installing apt-cyg only to have access to a pretty small repository. WSL on the other hand gives you access to almost the whole of Ubuntu's repository with the real apt-get out of the box.

Virtual machines require spending time setting them up, configuring shared folders, waiting for them to boot, installing extensions, wasting disk space, are annoying to resize, etc.

Dual booting requires to kill all the currently opened programs every time you want to switch, and wait for the reboot.

Now, granted, WSL has some shitty bugs and disk IO is pretty slow, but it's good for quickly testing things, running one off commands and so on.

>>1015732

Yeah, or you could stop sucking dick for 5 seconds and just run GNULinux instead of Windows

>>1015220

>But Microsoft/NSA probably backported their Botnet10 spyware into Windows 7 (and perhaps into XP and vista, too)

you will have it only if you were dumb enough to install updates

>>1015704

>Do new hardware even have drivers for XP ? that might be A SMALL problem

all new hardware is botnet and DRM. do not buy it anyway

>>1015735

>I'll try to socially pressure him to switch to Linux, that'll show him

sorry bro, I'm not 14 anymore, nor do I wish to become a little girl

>>1014773

It's bloat

>>1015071

Actaully I don't know the difference between Vista and 7. I'll try going back to Vista next time I have something that wont work on XP

>-people were too dumb to read about UAC and hated the change

UAC is literal snake oil meme garbage

>-finally they disabled the annoying UAC on anything because people are too dumb to read

Windows 7 still has UAC...

>-finally it does gpu/cpu experience index assessment after os installation to make dogshit not run dogshit and disable aero - dumb people of course liked it

I thought that cancer started with Vista. Also why is there fucking hyperlinks in the control panel, like text you can click on, instead of buttons. I want that shit gone. Did it start with Vista or Windows 7?

>>1015085

>all routers are backdoored

my routers are just Linux boxes I made

>also if you use transparent routing like this, all malware and spyware in windows and software you installed will still work, it will just send data over Tor

So?

>>1015742

>>>/g/

>>1015759

>hyperlink text

Bista had it.

Windows 10 basically gets rid of buttons because there is zero contrast now.

>>1015742

>nor do I wish to become a little girl

?

Also,

>bro

>>1015778

>>1015759

both switching to linux just to fit in because of social pressure and the /g/ faggotry of larping as a woman stem from the same mental illness

>>1015759

>It's bloat

NTLite the ISO then ya fuckin clampet

Does anyone have the source to an open source activation server? I don't want to trust the Microsoft Toolkit executable at all, trusting Windows is enough as it is. I remember there being an open source activation solution at one point, but I also heard that KMS based Windows activation also became nonviable at some point.

>>1014401 (OP)

Will this work?

https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

>>1015704

>XP 64-bit

>i7-4960X

>64GB desktop DDR3, or 128GB server DDR3

>Titan X Maxwell or Quadro M6000 24GB

>2TB SATA SSD

>1080p144 or 1440p60 or 4k30 (driver limitation)

You won't need anything newer/faster than that for a long time tbh

Also there is a palememe fork for XP

>>1027464

>You won't need anything newer/faster than that for a long time tbh

If you want to go online, you'll need an Os that gets security patches.

>>1027476

>If you want to go online, you'll need an Os that gets security patches.

Elaborate.

>>1027476

>these pajeet patches will protect my PC

I'm safer going online with my PS3 last updated a decade ago, than I am going online with Win10 latest build. If you depend on your "supported" OS to keep you safe, then buy a Mac and stop posting on /tech/ tbh

>>1027478

>the year is 2030

>all malware is 64-bit

>still using XP 32bit

>immune

>>1027477

If you go online,, you need to protect yourself against knows exploits, which means patching your system.

>>1027478

>with my PS3

Enjoy your hardware that can't run non-approved code.

>>1027482

>Not having CFW on your PS3

Thanks OP. Good to know as I'll never migrate to the cancer known as Linux.

>>1027479

>2030

>Not using NetBSD on your Dreamcast as your daily driver in order to avoid the CIA nigger prison botnet.

>>1027540

>2042

>not using TempleOS on an Amiga 4000 as your daily driver in order to avoid the Judeo-Soytilian glow in the dark mindhackers trying to convert you to (((their))) cause

>>1027477

>>1027478

>>1027476

I'll explain for this faggot:

Throughout time there were tons of driveby exploits. For example in PNG. If you use Windows 2000 and use the preview function in Explorer you could get infected by a PNG you haven't even clicked on.

If I remember correctly MS fixed that bug even for XP. So running the oldest version of XP you can find on the net might not be the best idea.

>>1027482

>you need to protect yourself against knows exploits

name one.

>>1027606

>could

>might

So I MUST use only "supported" operating systems because otherwise someone MIGHT infect my gaymen and shitposting box...

>>1027617

Na, I told you to use Windows XP with all updates instead of Windows XP like it came from an old disc you found lying around in your grandparents basement.

>>1027614

Dunno about XP, I know that Android had both Stagefright (no-interaction privilege escalation) and DirtyCOW (minimal interaction privilege escalation) in the last 5 years.

Android is a lot more modern and has much more cohesive design than XP, and yet got pwned that badly.

>>1027617

First of all, you will get pwned: it's not a matter of if, but of when.

Every single server with a connection to you (that includes every single host serving content on any webpage you visit, by the way) can see you are running XP, unless you spoof that.

Second, a virus can do much more damage than a version of windows you don't like: keep in mind that viruses can replace drivers and flash malicious firmware once they get root.

Third, if you use the machine for games and shitposting you want to run a supported OS because that's what games and web browsers are developed and patched for.

DirtyCOW affected the Linux kernel, not the Android userspace. It also highlights the very retarded thing about Android devices, which is that many of them never get updates and run on heavily customized and ancient kernels. But you think this only affects old devices? Hahaha, think again. I saw an eReader for nearly a thousand bucks (basically android tablet with eink screen) last year who was still susceptible to DirtyCOW, an exploit known since 2016, even though the reader came out in 2018. The manufacturer of the eInk device did update the firmware since then... to include a homebrewed shop to buy apps. They never touched the kernel even though they've been made aware. Nobody forces them too. There's no law regulating this.

Might as well browse the internet with WindowsXP. Probably less shit out there targeting it.

>>1027832

>Might as well browse the internet with WindowsXP. Probably less shit out there targeting it.

If you're that stupid, go ahead.

You really think hackers manually write "hackWindowsXP(anon)" all day? It's mostly automated, and keeping a stash of old exploits on your drive costs nothing.

>>1027482

>If you go online,, you need to protect yourself against knows exploits, which means patching your system.

incorrect

if you are behind NAT or firewall you cannot go "online", nobody is allowed to contact your PC. only you can initiate connections

to protect your web browser from exploits, disable javascript

>>1027807

>Every single server with a connection to you (that includes every single host serving content on any webpage you visit, by the way) can see you are running XP, unless you spoof that.

everyone should be spoofing their OS, there are no reasons not to

also even if a server knew he is using some old OS, they won't be able to do shit to him

>Second, a virus can do much more damage than a version of windows you don't like: keep in mind that viruses can replace drivers and flash malicious firmware once they get root.

then don't install viruses

>Third, if you use the machine for games and shitposting you want to run a supported OS because that's what games and web browsers are developed and patched for.

supported OS require modern hardware, all modern hardware is fully botnet and malware. so if you are dumb enough to use modern hardware, you are already insecure and they can fully control your PC

>>1027835

show one exploit for windows XP SP3

>>1028123

>only you can initiate connections

We both know that's only true in the most technical and useless sense.

Windows Server 2019 Datacenter Edition with vlmcsd from Wind4 github repo ftw. 7 cucks btfo!

>>1014401 (OP)

>you shouldn't use Windows 10 or Windows at all

> you can pirate Windows 10 Enterprise

<Updating windows

>>>/out/

>>1014528

I'm a brainlet, so I'm glad that stupid forum prevented me from viewing that post without an account. Otherwise I probably would've downloaded and installed it.

Considering how I seem to lack common sense, I'm going to install malwarebytes now. Thanks, you da real MVP

>>1015071

>-finally start menu nostalgia fags stop crying

The Windows 10 start menu is a complete abomination that only seems like an improvement when compared to the Windows 8/8.1 start screen. We didn't want that piece of garbage, we wanted the Windows 7 start menu back.

I believe most people stopped complaining about the start menu not because they were satisfied with Windows 10 solution, but because by that point everyone was already using ClassicShell or one of the other alternatives.

>>1040736

(cont.) I also think a good part of the reason Microsoft didn't want to bring the old Windows 7 start menu back, is due to the fact that the company has been completely taken over by curryniggers in all levels for some time now. It could pretty much be called an Indian company now.

By bringing back the old Windows 7 start menu, Microsoft would be openly admitting that they've made a mistake. Pajeets never, ever admit to having made mistakes, even if it's blowing right in their faces - it's a huge taboo for them. Of course, it's also a terrible mindset for software development and another reason why putting pajeets there is a terrible idea.

>>1040736

>>1040766

You're right on both points. I've seen the thing with pajeets and shitty people in general before too. They refuse to admit mistakes even though the code is obviously shit because they're too invested in the idea that they've made the greatest thing ever and you should feel lucky they take the time to allow you to use it. This behavior is very prevalent among people that are involved with things like Wordpress and forum software.

>>1040906

For pajeets it's more than just being a shitty people or an inflated ego (though many of them do have huge egos), it's also a cultural thing. It's their subverted version of the "face culture" - if they admit they've made a mistake, they lose face. It doesn't matter if their mistake blows right in their faces in front of an audience, to them if they don't admit it, they can save face.

At least East Asian peoples (Japs in particular) are more rational about it and will admit mistakes if it can't be swept under the rug or hidden somehow. And then commit sudoku if they can't deal with it.

>>1014404

Can't wait for sick fucks like you to get the bullet.

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES