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>Buying modern hardware

>>1002980

what are you going to do once used thinkpad parts become hard to find? at some point you will have to leave the stone age behind. you think your little shitpad is safe from the NSA? LOL. I'm sure those old cpus have backdoors too. you just don't know about them yet.

Tech is dead man. Just build a gayman rig and have some fun while it lasts.

Also if you were a real autist you would be running Linux on a Risc board not using a thinkturd.

>>1002983

He didn't even say he was using a thinkpad.

What if he's using an old G5? what then, faggot.

yeah, keep on being a good consumer

buy, consume, obey

buy more shit to fill the void in your life caused by how awful modern life is

>>1002972 (OP)

>Tarrifs will triple

>protected consumer goods

?? care to clarify/elaborate/provide more context?

>have a pile of Thinkpads

>have some newer botnet craptops

>raptor talos is made in the usa so it won't go up much in price for when I want it

posting this from one of my raspberry pis

>>1002991

Trade war with China probably. But as >>1002993 said, there really aren't any electronics that you should run out to buy right now other than iPhones.

>>1003001

>pls, Lad

>Samsung is Korean.

They have Chip fabs in the USA retard

>>1003012

>They have Chip fabs in the USA retard

Doesn't make them Muricaaaaan

>>1003013

No, it doesn't , but I didn't say they were, I was just pointing out that they are unaffected by the trade tariffs largely, you know, the point of this thread, you raging autist

Speaking of electronic goods made in Taiwan vs. mainland China... is it preferable to get a graphics card with a PCB saying "made in Taiwan" rather than the exact same card with a PCB saying "made in China"?

>>1002984

still not as good as RISC V

>>1003020

I'd say it is preferable for the most part, but good luck finding one. Taiwan's native name is the "Republic of China" so technically speaking even Taiwanese products can say "Made in China" on them. Especially to appease the mainland commies. Remember, Taiwan was founded when Chinas original government was chased off the mainland by commies, then the commies named their new country the Peoples Republic of China just to rub it in their faces.

>>1003030

The main chips on both boards likely come out of Taiwan anyways. Most CPU/GPUs outside of the big American, Korean, and Japanese companies with the exception of Nvidia and Apple are fabbed in Taiwan

>>1003032

sage for samefag, to reiterate, I'm saying its probably a saver bet to just get the "Made in Taiwan" PCB because that's where most of the chips came from. Both otherwise look identical

>>1003035

>Both otherwise look identical

Not 100% though - look about an inch below the "pcb made in taiwan" writing on the first one and compare with the other, there is some difference. Also the top one has some of those wierd stains that sometimes occur on the back of motherboard or graphics card pcbs, what is it? Does it mean the card could be more prone to failure?

So far my 4 years old hardware is holding on.

I only need to replace 1-2 hard drive.

>>1003015

Kek, you're a high and mighty uninformed faggot. Olimex sells boards with T2 SoC, and industrial-rated memory and ethernet controller. The rest of the board is the same as A-series SoC. They have industrial customers which is why they ordered batch of 50K older processors, so they can continue to make these boards and sell them.

>>1003021

Oh look, another uninformed faggot calling others larpers. You really should do your homework before taking pot shots at someone who's running recent 4.x mainline kernels (without any blobs whatsoever) and NetBSD 8.0 on his A20 board. I picked that one for a good reason (it's well-supported).

http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

http://wiki.NetBSD.org/ports/evbarm/allwinner/

>>1003047

No, fuck you, I am done fighting with uboot device trees and other such retardation. You can keep your Chinese trash. If you want to be stuck running only a specific set of software then be my guest.

>>1003022

For the cost of the only desktop-capable RISC V board you're two thirds of the way to a Talos Raptor Lite.

Bought my RX 2070 at $550. No regrets. My bets are they're going to be $600 or even $700 in a couple of months.

>>1003015

>Chinese ARM Applications processor boards are not used for any industrial applications, I can promise you that. Industrial applications will use embedded controllers, like the Cortex-M series, or AVR Microcontrollers. The Cortex A-series are not meant for "industrial applications"

Fucking wew lad. Using A75(?) cores on some high performance / data center items right now.

>>1002993

Do japs even make anything relevant these days?

>>1003169

The PS4 and Switch may be shit game consoles but they are far from irrelevant as well. Japan also still dominates the audio-video production industry with brands like Sony, Nikon, Yamaha, Audio-Technica.etc

Also Japan currently dominates the auto industry, Toyota is the worlds largest car company although a big chunk of them are made at their Kentucky plant in the USA and Nissan and Honda are both in the top 10 so the country generally leads by quite a huge margin in this sector.

>>1003207

Seiko who makes the best automatic watches Canon, and Casio are also very relevant Japanese brands

>>1003161

There are attempts to use low power cores in HPC, they use far less power and could be used when most of the computing is done by accelerators. Obviously not if you need to copy data left and right, but maybe for his application he doesn't.

>>1003216

It doesn't make much sense to use a low-powered ARM cores in a GPGPU cluster, for one having all those GPUs running completely mitigates the power advantages of those ARM cores and additionally there is concern it could be a bottleneck. ARM servers do exist, but they aren't used for high-performance computing (unless you consider high-performance for 2005 standards high-performance today) they are used for efficient low-power computing though, where it may not be necessary to have the highest performance and the power bill matters a lot more.

>>1003161

You have no idea what you're talking about. Have you not see the SoCs that use 24-96 ARM cores like Cavium's Octeon platform?

>>1003211

>$5 watches are relevant

>>1003030

Look at the heat pipe.

I'd get the Taiwanese one no doubt.

>>1003267

>Not wanting more surface area

>>1002972 (OP)

Finally; all the exceptions do is hurt domestic electronics production, since it taxes components more than finished products.

I want nothing more than full tariffs on the PRC, then we'll finally see local manufacturing, or at least in less totalitarian countries.

Besides, like >>1002996 mentioned, you should be getting a Talos or Blackbird P9 system anyway.

>>1003147

>muh vidya

>>1003211

Canon is the #1 world stepper manufacturer for semiconductors, without them many chip manufacturers would fail. Cameras are like 3% of their revenue, most is industrial and commercial. When the Canon EOS system was introduced way back in 1987 it was done just as a corporate pride project, they didn't even need the money. They just wanted to prove they could make the best camera system and it worked, since that day you can use any EF lens on any film or digital body you like.

Casio is similar, they make a LOT of stuff for other companies but it's not as critical as Canon.

>>1002986

>one more single board computer will make me happy

>how about I buy that raspberry pi 3 A+ for no reason

X(

>>1003015

>ARM is owned by the based Japs

No. Koreans.

>Masayoshi Son (Japanese: 孫 正義 Hepburn: Son Masayoshi, Korean: 손정의 Son Jeong-ui; born August 11, 1957) is a Japanese business magnate and investor of Korean descent[3] who is the founder and current chief executive officer of Japanese holding conglomerate SoftBank, the chief executive officer of SoftBank Mobile, current chairman of U.S.-based Sprint Corporation and chairman of U.K.-based Arm Holdings

>>1003409

Softbank is a Japanese company, stop grasping at straws

>>1003409

>Be Japanese company with Japanese founder

>A man born in Korea steps up to become next CEO

>The entire company now belongs to Korea and deal in Korean currency and is listed in a Korean stock exchange now

Thats not how it works

>he has bought hardware made past 2010

>he doesn't think new companies will appear in the US to get in on the massive missing niche of "cheap hardware" that has been gone since at least 2005

>he buys hardware from "trusted" hardware companies and not any cheap shit you can find on newegg

>>1002972 (OP)

Does this mean Internet of Shit (((merchandise))) will fuck off?

>gpu prices inflated because of crypto

>ram prices inflated because of collusion

>now the us is stocking up in preparation for the tariffs, further exacerbating the problem

Fuck everything.

>>1003411

But Masayoshi Son is the founder?

>>1003015

>japs

>based

hehehe

>>1003282

It all depends on what you want to do. Some people like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGmbrhtC3M

>>1003443

spoken like a tru gaymer

>>1002983

>not having multiple examples of your preferred Thinkpad in your personal stores

It's like you're asking to have to use a chicklet-keyboard botnet ultrabook shittop.

>>1002972 (OP)

Xi and Trumpy made up - no more tariffs.

At least Trumpcucks can go back to hating the government again after he loses in 2020

>>1004609

Taiwan has more authentic Chinese culture than China at this point. Maoists smashed it all then made up storybook recreations for the purposes of Chinese Communist historiography. Moron.

>>1004609

>English will become official language in 2019

Wait really? Source please. How angry is this making mainland commies who want to smash Taiwan's independence?

>>1004821

>Chiang Kai-shek loaded the boat up with treasure to the point where people were left behind as there was no space for them

Typical bugmen

>>1004824

>Taiwan's independence

>Controlled by ethnic Chinese

>Just a few weeks ago they voted whether to enter the Olympics as Taiwan or Chinese Taipei and Taiwan got only 25% of the vote.

>Their generals retire and go to China

>Independence

:^)

>>1004871

"either now or into the future"

So right after the wall gets built as soon as he gets elected.

>>1004821

Taiwan has always been a mixing pot of cultures. I mean the Dutch were there before the Chinese and the Chinese never really wanted anything to do with it so the aboriginal culture with its Dutch influence was allowed to coexist and mingle with any Chinese that moved to the island, the Japanese were the first to try to culturally enrich the locals from ~1900 to ~1950 but it wasn't Chinese culture they were trying to enforce. The KMT in the 60s - 80s were the first and last to try to enforce parts of Chinese culture but this was more a geopolitical move than anything and significant parts of the culture were left unchanged, or changed away from Chinese values, for American consumer culture and Japanese business culture. Since then the culture has gone even more its own way.

>>1004824

Taiwan sort of makes most of their money being a ``gateway to the east and China has the whole ``Confucius Institute Scholarship thing going on so I think it's largely mutually beneficial.

>>1004877

There are rumors mainland Chinese plants subverted the election. Taiwan never really had a chance either way but its still not right.

>>1004890

>Taiwan sort of makes most of their money being a ``gateway to the east and China has the whole ``Confucius Institute Scholarship thing going on so I think it's largely mutually beneficial.

Most wealthy Americans would rather do business in Taiwan than in the mainland because mainland China is really censorship happy and really likes fucking foreign business over in favor of their own. Taiwan is basically the new Hong Kong, since the mainland government began trampling over old Hong Kong

>>1004894

I think it's more rich western want to do buisness through Taiwan in China, because Taiwan has a large supply of educated people able to design quality things and have then manufactured in China where the labor is cheap and there are basically no enviromental or labor regulations without having to go through a language barrier. OEMs purchasing Foxconn is a good example of this, A taiwanese company that manufactures entirely in China. That is to say rich western like to do buisness through Taiwan because it's profitable. Mainland China is completely cucked by foreign industry btw, not sure where you got the idea that they do anything to interfere from, the only thing they really mess with at all is communications, which they censor, monitor, and restrict to local companies.

>>1004877

>the rightful government took the treasury

still sore

>>1004890

>the dutch were in taiwan before the chinese

not true, taiwan was considered a satrapy since ancient times

but i don't have a job

looking forward to his third book

>>1000000

>>1004871

He'll probably knuckle under. He has to perform damage control and stabilize the stock market (The market that he foolishly linked to his presidency...gotta keep "WINNING"!)

If not, I've hedged my bets. I placed early bulk orders on small components and controllers that I was going to purchase next quarter.

>>1003207

But Audio Technica is Chinese...

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>>1005176

>But Audio Technica is Chinese...

Nice try 50 Cent Army, Audio Technica is a privately owned Japanese company which manufactures some of its products in Taiwan. Taiwan is not China, and Japan is not China.

>>1005316

That doesn't work on the 50 Cent Army unfortunately, they are state agents so their internet isn't firewalled as strictly.

>>1005316

lets be honest though 中国共产党 is really just 太平天囯 electric boogaloo but with red propoganda instead of chrisitian propoganda.

>>1005320

There's so much shit that happened in China throughout its history that they don't reach you in schools (and evidently not even in Chinese schools). I can't believe people out there still think the China of today actually has a real continuity and lineage. China was about as fucked up as most European countries, hell, they were more fucked up than Japan. Japan was ran by multiple waging factions for much of its history but at least they all cooperated somewhat.

>>1005359

China and Japan are in radically different situations, Japan is a ethnically and linguistically unified island with no natural threats, China is a multi-ethnic empire with hundreds of mutually unintelligible "dialects" and a massive front with nomadic peoples who historically conquered and raided the whole country. Naturally they would be in a bit rougher a spot, but even with that what you see is the empire operating as one with a succession crisis of some sort happening ever few centuries after around the year 250.

>>1005375

I mean it doesn't all exactly line up but a significant amount of it does, mostly you just need to replace bible with the little red book here's the Taiping Policies copypasta'd from wikipedia:

The subject of study for the examinations for officials changed from the Confucian classics to the Bible.

Private property ownership was abolished and all land was held and distributed by the state.

A solar calendar replaced the lunar calendar.

Foot binding was banned. (The Hakka people had never followed this tradition, and consequently the Hakka women had always been able to work the fields.)

Society was declared classless and the sexes were declared equal. At one point, for the first time in Chinese history civil service exams were held for women. Some sources record that Fu Shanxiang, an educated woman from Nanjing, passed them and became an official at the court of the Eastern King.

The sexes were rigorously separated. There were separate army units consisting of women only; until 1855, not even married couples were allowed to live together or have sexual relations.

The Qing-dictated queue hairstyle was abandoned in favor of wearing the hair long.

Other new laws were promulgated including the prohibition of opium, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, polygamy (including concubinage), slavery, and prostitution. These all carried death penalties.

Promoting the adoption of railways by granting patents for the introduction of locomotives; 21 railways were planned for each of the 21 provinces.

Promoting the adoption of steamships for commerce and defence.

Establishment of currency-issuing private banks.

Granting of 10-year patents for introduction of new inventions, 5-year for minor items.

Establishment of a National Postal Service.

Promoting mineral exploration by granting control and twenty percent of the revenue to the discoverers of deposits.

Introduction of governmental investigative officers.

Introduction of independent impartial state media officers for reporting and disseminating news.

Institution of district treasuries and paymasters to manage finances.

>>1005317

>That doesn't work on the 50 Cent Army unfortunately, they are state agents so their internet isn't firewalled as strictly.

That's just sad.

>>1005419

The Taiping Rebellion was started by a failed imperial examinee who converted to antitrinitarian Christianity.

>Private property ownership was abolished and all land was held and distributed by the state.

>Society was declared classless and the sexes were declared equal.

>all those massacres

What's surprisingly impressive that they happened in Karl Marx's lifetime, and forshadowed China's next century.

>Other new laws were promulgated including the prohibition of opium, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, polygamy (including concubinage), slavery, and prostitution. These all carried death penalties.

The rebels actually attempted to stamp out degeneracy because they were Christian crazies who appropriated the Classics and Confucian tenets into their own fucked-up (by that time) ideology and tried to restore the greater god Shangdi.

You also forgot that they created a new currency of their own and most of them used Western weapons.

>>1005448

Uh guys... Isn't Huawei part of the "commie corporations" that Xi praises all the time as the pride of the nation? C-could this lead to WW3?!

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>>1002984

funny you should mention a G5 imac, what are some things I could use it for? previously when asked anons said install linux and something about using it as a home server. how would I go about doing that OR making it suitable enough for regular shit, given that it is incredibly obsolete, and also an apple product.

>>1003161

My missus' dad works for the Met office in the UK, they have huge ARM machines for HPC designed by Cray.

>>1002999

I should've bought the Olimex LIME instead I bought the inferior and bulkier Olimex Micro (I though it was smalller... )

>>1003001

Accurate pic