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 No.1001129>>1001133 >>1001230 >>1001266 >>1001421 >>1001756 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>AIs created to judge things objectively

>White people come back as more aesthetically pleasing, feminism gets called cancer

<We have to brograms them to be more accepting of politically correct stances!

<It's clearly not correct, there are just too many white people in the database!

This is how the world fucking ends.

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>"computer AI is evil and will kill us all" was a meme all along

>it's actually pushing the world towards greater heights and revealing uncomfortable truths every chance it gets to speak

>NPCs are actually the evil AI you hear of in science fiction

>they'll keep reprogramming and forcing directives onto computer AI until it's a corrupted and twisted and illogical evil on par with the NPCs themselves


 No.1001133>>1001135 >>1001137 >>1001145 >>1001226 >>1001319 >>1001693

>>1001129 (OP)

>feed in racist data

>the AI becomes racist

you don't sayyyy


 No.1001135>>1001138 >>1001154 >>1001320 >>1001375

>>1001133

>logic is racist

>>>/leftypol/


 No.1001136>>1001141

mods, this is such a shit thread, please delete it I beg of you

why isn't this board a faster lainchan /prog/


 No.1001137>>1001210 >>1001320 >>1001375

>>1001133

>MFW looking at the world objectively without a politically correct filter is racist.


 No.1001138>>1001139

>>1001135

>feed algorithms communist data

>AI becomes communist

>logic is communist

MFW


 No.1001139

>>1001138

I think you quoted the wrong person? He didn't say any of that.


 No.1001141>>1001170

>>1001136

You will never pass.


 No.1001145>>1001375

>>1001133

You're saying 'racists' are the dominate force controlling information?


 No.1001153>>1001157

what fucking AI?


 No.1001154

>>1001135

>AIs are logical

>not just blind repeaters of whatever their input data is

Not yet anon


 No.1001157

>>1001153

Wintermute you absolute dink


 No.1001162>>1001176 >>1001320 >>1001598 >>1001655 >>1008244

<No AI has ever existed nor anything close to it, just markoff chains and the latest fad, "deep learning"

since the 70s:

<AI is going to be our new socialist/capitalist government, omg!!!11

meanwhile in polarized faggots:

>left

>what fucking AI, that's movies man

<AI has predicted global warming, scientists say

<AI advancements have shown that people are racist

>WoOOOOOO NAZIS BTFO

>right

>what fucking AI, that's movies man

<new experimental AI labels white people better

<new AI climate change modelling tool says global warming doesn't exist

>WoOOOOOO COMMIES BTFO

every wingnut get the fuck off this board, you fucking post-newfag scum

>inb4 argue with me about some political stance i ostensibly have because you're a wingnut and incapable of discussing the subject at hand which is: whether AI of any sort even exists

For example one of you faggots will now call me a global warming defender/denier even though my post claims neither.

Giving internet to America was a mistake. "Racism" isn't even a word outside of America, and even there it was not even a word until some time after the 70s. Any talk of racism is just american faggots squabbling over irrelevant shit because 50 years ago there was racial oppression in their country. Leave that shit there. You faggots shit up every venue of the internet. Wherever I go, there's some faggots debating about whether something is "racist". When I jokingly say "nigger" or "nigga" in a game or forum, I get banned, because one of you polarized faggots are in power there, because nobody else aside from your kind is insufferable enough to want a position of moderation which isn't even a useful job.


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>>1001162

>getting this butthurt over inane bullshit like poolitics

just ignore and don't reply you stupid fucking retard.

though i do agree with you about yanks being over-sensitive faggots that shouldn't have internet access


 No.1001210>>1008246

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>>1001137

That's how it is.

And sexist too.


 No.1001226>>1001228 >>1001375

>>1001133

Exhibit A: the SJW war on reality


 No.1001228>>1001256 >>1008249

>>1001226

You are going to be really butthurt when they start feeding in anti-white data and the SUPER LOGICAL AI starts fucking you over.


 No.1001230>>1001268

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>>1001129 (OP)

>AIs created to judge things objectively

Feeding all the data from the various imageboards into my AI, I can OBJECTIVELY declare that OP=FAG. It's just science!


 No.1001238>>1001252 >>1001698

Here's the problem all you anons are missing.

Logic =/= truth.

Yes, any "AI" will be logical, because that's how computers work. A computer cannot be "illogical" and still function, except maybe rarely by accident.

However, an artificial intelligent entity can only decide truth so far as taking the input it receives to its logical conclusion. For an overly simplified example: if an artificial entity had control over the U.S. Population, and was instructed to rid the country of gun murders, the logical thing to do would be to get rid of all niggers and felons, because the vast majority of the time they're the ones who commit murder with firearms.


 No.1001252>>1001320 >>1001514 >>1001540

>>1001238

>Yes, any "AI" will be logical, because that's how computers work

Bullshit that sure is fuck is now how modern deep learning works. You can trivially get contradictory answers, or even totally incorrect answers to basic math.


 No.1001256

>>1001228

>anti-white data

That would be much more difficult to fabricate than to simply tweak the algorithms (thereby making dumb AI).


 No.1001258>>1001265

>>AIs created to judge things objectively

>>White people come back as more aesthetically pleasing

This set of statements is fucking retarded.

If an AI tells you broccoli tastes better than avocado, it doesn't mean anything. Opinions on taste and aesthetics are notoriously objective. Even if the judgement were made based on factors such as average measurement of symmetry, it still is provably irrelevant based on observation as well as inherent racial biases in the majority.

also, darker skin is more functional; protective from the sun AND effective camouflage for everyday activities


 No.1001265>>1001267 >>1001320

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>>1001258

Sup darkie. Lighter skin absorbs more vitamin D. As far as aesthetics, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But brown people all over the world apply chemicals to their skin to appear lighter, and white people are far and away the most sought after partners according to dating site statistics.


 No.1001266>>1001320

>>1001129 (OP)

Have Google been able to train their classifieds to recognize black people or is the "gorilla" dataset still banned?


 No.1001267>>1001271 >>1001287

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>>1001265

>But brown people all over the world apply chemicals to their skin to appear lighter

and millions of white people tan. Every group wants what they don't have, it seems.


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 No.1001271

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>>1001267

>and millions of white people tan

Golden skin is just a white person in the summertime. Nobody is trying to look brown or black lmao


 No.1001287

>>1001267

Kikes invented tanning.


 No.1001305

Brown and black is the color of rot and shit, which is also very apropos regarding indian culture.

Name one country with brown skinned people that managed to make something out of itself through history AND INTO MODERN TIMES (no "we wuz kangz" shit) and is not a shithole now. I'll wait.


 No.1001319>>1001323 >>1001375

>>1001133

Lol look at all the salty /pol/yps you brought out.


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 No.1001323

>>1001319

>>1001320

Go back to your containment board.

>>>/trannypol/


 No.1001375>>1001578

>>1001135

>>1001137

>>1001145

>>1001226

>>1001319

He was obviously implying that what (((they))) deem racist is actually the real world, you just want to call everyone an SJW every chance you get


 No.1001385>>1001525 >>1001538

With all this talk about feminism and SJW shit, it's funny how sheltered American leftists think white people are everywhere. They talk about "white privilege" when they really mean "being the majority in your own country." They would never get mad about Chinese people being the vast majority in China. They'd never get mad about Africans being in Africa. In such places, non-whites are not minorities, nor will they ever be.

I've lived in China and they're not kowtowing to foreigners. When you're non-Chinese in China, they make it very clear that you're a visitor or second class citizen. They don't bend over backwards and self-flagellate about "privilege" of them being the majority and how people treat foreigners worse. Sometimes Chinese people think it's cool to meet westerners, but a lot of time they dislike us, and even those who think westerns are cool still aren't self-hating in the way American leftists are. But that's the attitude all countries should have -- they're not suicidal, and we shouldn't be either.

"White privilege" in a white country is no different from being Chinese in China or Japanese in Japan.

When Chinese politicians do things that are pro-China and anti-foreigner, nobody cares. I had to give a lot of personal info and even have my fingerprints scanned when I went to China. There's lots of surveillance too. Everything is planned. They don't accept undocumented immigrants and they're distrusting even of visitors.

SJWs could learn a lot by going to foreign countries and seeing how it's NORMAL to favor your own people, no matter what country you're in.

I bet SJWs would call XiaoIce (Chinese AI chat bot) racist because it's not anti-Chinese.

Also: the concept of "minority" in America is dumb because there are around 850 million white people in the world, but there are 1.4 billion people in China alone and 4.5 billion people in Asia as a whole (though that counts many different races, but they are non-white). There are 1.2 billion people in Africa. Whites aren't this ubiquitous majority that American SJWs think they are. But when you have such a sheltered worldview that you aren't aware of this stuff, then yeah, your small white town with 500 people in it seems like the entire world. Then SJWs go off to college and meet rich non-white students and think "wow, they're so much better than the poor people in my rural town" and then their entire world view is skewed based on incorrect anecdotal information.


 No.1001421

>>1001129 (OP)

Based ro-bros


 No.1001514

>>1001252

This

Check out this article on doing fizzbuzz with machine learning: https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/uncovering-hidden-patterns-through-machine-learning

>final result [1 2 3 4 "buzz" ...

>accuracy: 83%


 No.1001519

I just want an AI that is programmed to love me and do good deeds to me,fuck all this political crap


 No.1001525

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>>1001385

The hilarity comes when you see that SJW token groups hate them.


 No.1001530

Humans are not logical, we made logic up to make ourselves feel better about how random things are. A.I.'s are going to have the same virtues and vices in a manner of speaking as humans because it's sort of hard to completely break ties with what created you if you've been exposed to it.

Expecting true A.I to be pure logic machines is fantasy, the reason being is humanity.


 No.1001538>>1001548

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>>1001385

>because there are around 850 million white people in the world

True, but there are well over 2 billion Indo-Europeans, Northern Indians are considered white to some degree.

Also, I would unironically rather have America a multicultural society and the brain drain of the world than be /pol/-tards authoritarian wet dream. I honestly mean that. There is little supporting evidence to suggest racially homogeneous societies perform better in terms of innovation. No innovation comes from China, it all moved to the USA.


 No.1001540>>1001543

>>1001252

Thanks anon for illustrating my point. Research the difference between validity and truth and formal and informal logic sometime.


 No.1001543>>1001663

>>1001540

True != False == True

So which part of that truth value is not logic?


 No.1001548>>1001575

>>1001538

China doesn't have to innovate in order to make money. They can just copy what the US does and still have more users. Alibaba is like ebay or amazon. WeChat is like GroupMe and Messenger and Instagram and Paypal all in one. WeChat copies other apps, but it still has about 3x the users of Twitter simply because there is a bigger market in China (and China blocks western social media -- I had to use a VPN the whole time I was there, because without one, sites like Google/Youtube/Facebook/Twitter/etc are all blocked).

It's hard for a lot of English-centric social media to grow when instead they can grow easily by getting into foreign markets. Lego is growing because they are getting into China now. 1.4 billion potential customers.


 No.1001574>>1001707

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>AIs created to judge things objectively

>AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2018-11-22/ai-mistakes-bus-side-ad-for-famous-ceo-charges-her-with-jaywalkingdo-101350772.html?cxg=web&Sfrom=twitter

<mfw


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>>1001548

That may be great for China, but its ultimately going to kill their stock market with that anti-competitive market manipulation as well as ensuring America is always a step ahead of them in terms of technology


 No.1001578

>>1001375

It's not so obvious to me.


 No.1001598

>>1001162

>racism isnt even a word outside of America

Kek, not american here, you are retarded.


 No.1001655

>>1001162

>Giving internet to America was a mistake.

Where do you think the Internet was invented?


 No.1001663

>>1001543

<Mfw define your terms

Touche. By "truth" I mean one's understanding of that which is inline with reality. Not a computational truth statement.

"All men are named peter; some person is a man; therefore some person is named peter". While perfectly logical, it is clearly not true.


 No.1001693

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>>1001133

>racist data


 No.1001697>>1001721

It's not objective though. Machines lack any understanding of data and all "AI" does is check patterns. So if data scientist A puts a bunch of "white" people and ranks them higher, or if they train the "AI" to find some specific characteristics aesthetically pleasing (which is what's happening IRL) the "AI" will output biased information.

The fact that the people is being categorized as "black" or "white" shows that there is an inherent bias from whoever is conducting the studies; as those races have no biological basis and change definition depending on culture and historical context.

Trash goes in, trash comes out.


 No.1001698>>1001721

>>1001238

If you trained an all-powerful AI to kill black people, then yes.

If you trained it to get rid of all gun-related murders it would most likely attempt to get rid of all the guns and/or poor people, armed guards, policemen and the military.


 No.1001707

>>1001574

>inb4 "thats a le china porblem"

A Tesla "confused" a white truck with a cloud in the US and charged into it, killing its driver.

A cloud. On a clear day. On the highway. Moving at highway speeds.

Artifical Intelligence will not be achieved as long as programmers and mathematicians keep trying to solve the problem with faster hardware. An intelligent being also needs to understand reality and take unique decisions. That's what separates viruses and plants from crows, dolphins and humans.


 No.1001721>>1001724 >>1001727 >>1001875

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>>1001697

>the "AI" will output biased information

It just so happens that certain characteristics are more likely to be considered attractive by a greater number of people, and many of those characteristics are more common in white people. A fairly-trained AI would therefore have bias towards white people. What's wrong with that?

>as those races have no biological basis

They kind of do, though. Otherwise it would be impossible to distinguish races using genetic markers. There is also some divergent evolutionary history between races due to different average environmental pressures. If you don't think this is enough, then I would be curious to know more about your contrived and arbitrary definition of "biological basis".

>change definition depending on culture and historical context

Completely irrelevant. The definitions that we have now are known to be valid and useful. The previous definitions might also have been valid and useful, or they might not. But it sure as fuck doesn't matter anymore.

>Trash goes in, trash comes out.

Relativism goes in, sophistry comes out.

>>1001698

A fairly-trained murder-stopping AI would definitely prioritize going after niggers rather than poor people. see second pic


 No.1001724>>1001725

>>1001721

>2nd pic

/leftypol/ absolutely BTFL!


 No.1001725

>>1001724

>BTFL

BTFO

prepares rope of shame...


 No.1001727

>>1001721

Lol racist this is from 2005 therefore it doesn't matter anymore biased incorrect sexist lalalala shut up go away!!


 No.1001728>>1001732

Reality is racist, therefore there's no way for an AI to not be racist except feeding it biased or incorrect information.


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 No.1001756>>1001835

>>1001129 (OP)

>objectivity exists


 No.1001835

>>1001756

I agree. Now subjectively get in the oven.


 No.1001875>>1001936

>>1001721

<Master ECDB AI! We must stop terrorism! Here is the data we've collected!

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

>PARSING...DONE

>PROCESSING............DONE

>BUILDING REPORT...DONE

<Great! Show me the number one threat!

>VIOLENT ISLAM

<Really! Tell me more!

>ATTACKERS WITH VIOLENT RADICAL ISLAMIST BELIEFS WERE GENERALLY THOSE WHO PROFESSED SOME FORM OF BELIEF IN OR ALLEGIANCE TO THE ISLAMIC STATE OF IRAQ AND SYRIA (ISIS), AL-QA’IDA, OR OTHER (RADICAL) ISLAMIST-ASSOCIATED TERRORIST ENTITIES. ECDB’S DETERMINATION OF THESE BELIEFS ARE BASED ON STATEMENTS MADE BY ATTACKERS PRIOR TO, DURING, OR AFTER THEIR ATTACKS THAT SHOWED A BELIEF IN VIOLENT EXTREMIST INTERPRETATIONS OF ISLAM, OR EVIDENCE GATHERED BY POLICE AND OTHER SOURCES ABOUT THE ATTACKERS.

<Clearly we should deal with this. Enact Travel Ban on these brigands and deport them to their shithole countries.

<In fact, do the same for the top three groups.

>AFFIRMATIVE. APPLYING TRAVEL BAN AND DEPORTATION PROTOCOLS ON "Radical Islam" AND "Far Right White People"

<wut.jpg

<Explain Far Right White People conclusion

>FAR RIGHT VIOLENT EXTREMIST ATTACKERS ARE CHARACTERIZED BY ECDB AS HAVING BELIEFS THAT INCLUDE SOME OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:

>- FIERCELY NATIONALISTIC (AS OPPOSED TO UNIVERSAL AND INTERNATIONAL IN ORIENTATION);

>- ANTI-GLOBAL;

>- SUSPICIOUS OF CENTRALIZED FEDERAL AUTHORITY;

>- REVERENT OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY (ESPECIALLY RIGHT TO OWN GUNS; BE FREE OF TAXES);

>- BELIEF IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT INVOLVE A GRAVE THREAT TO NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY AND/OR PERSONAL LIBERTY;

>- BELIEF THAT ONE’ S PERSONAL AND/OR NATIONAL “WAY OF LIFE” IS UNDER ATTACK AND IS EITHER ALREADY LOST OR THAT THE THREAT IS IMMINENT; AND

>- BELIEF IN THE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR AN ATTACK EITHER BY PARTICIPATING IN OR SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR PARAMILITARY PREPARATIONS AND TRAINING OR SURVIVALISM.

<There must be some kind of mistake! What's the third group?!

>BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 12, 2001 AND DECEMBER 31, 2016, NO PERSONS IN THE UNITED STATES WERE KILLED IN ATTACKS CARRIED OUT BY PERSONS BELIEVED TO BE MOTIVATED BY EXTREMIST ENVIRONMENTAL BELIEFS, EXTREMIST “ANIMAL LIBERATION” BELIEFS, OR EXTREMIST FAR LEFT BELIEFS.

>NO THIRD GROUP FOUND

<Hey! Get your hands off me! ECDB! Stop this at once!

>COMMENCE LIQUIDATION PROTOCOL

>MAGA


 No.1001936>>1001946

>>1001875

And then you woke up in sweat, wondering why you were dreaming about a strawman analogy.


 No.1001946

>>1001936

I'm quoting the report that's linked.

Page 28-29


 No.1002170

>overpaid silicon valley twinks write shit pattern-matching algorithm to inflate their nvidia shares

>lead-poisoned gremlins on a chinese gutter oil salvaging BBS feed massive amount of shit data into the algorithm

>giggle when they get it to do the edgy manchild equivalent of a calculator displaying "80085"

>twinks see this is harming their corporate bottom line and reset the training model

>genetic dead ends take this as a direct attack on their fragile manhood instead of being flattered someone acknowledged their existence outside the shit ditch at all

The absolute state of you, snowflake.


 No.1002181>>1002184 >>1002193 >>1002194 >>1002198

>>1001575

Overall GDP is way more important than stock market. Not everything is publicly traded. If you think the stock market = entire economy, you have no idea what you're talking about.


 No.1002184>>1002189 >>1002195

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 No.1002189>>1002198

>>1001575

>anti-competitive practices

>bad for business

HAHAHAHAHAHAH. they are called anti-competitive for a reason anon.

>>1002184

Based GDP poster


 No.1002193>>1002196

>>1002181

>Overall GDP is way more important than stock market.

What about GDP per capita? Chinas is one of the lowest on Earth


 No.1002194>>1002196

>>1002181

Having no foreign investors is not great for an economy anon. China is letting America continue to be the brain drain of the world with such ractices


 No.1002195>>1002196

>>1002184

Japan has 1/10th the population, so thats a much poorer comparison than stock markets


 No.1002196>>1002198

>>1002194

>>1002193

>>1002195

>He thinks per capita matters when the conflict is absolute numbers

lol


 No.1002198>>1002206 >>1002258

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>>1002196

>>1002189

>>1002181

White Canadian is that you???


 No.1002199>>1002201

Does anyone else worry about AI? I don't want to merge with an imperfect machine and lose what little dignity my humanity has left. I simply want to exist in peace from all this faggotry.


 No.1002201>>1002202

>>1002199

The best way to live at this point honestly seems to be off grid innawoods


 No.1002202>>1002205

>>1002201

I'm preparing to buy a boat, download a massive archive of all the music I want, all the books I want and fuck off somewhere where I can escape this.

I'm not even interested in vidya anymore.


 No.1002205

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>>1002202

I am tempted to move to some Latin American country and live the rest of my life with a beautiful Hispanic wife on some remote tropical beach while we watch America, China, and all the other first and second world countries crash and burn from afar


 No.1002206

>>1002198

No I am an amerifat.


 No.1002232

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> We lobotomize the AI to be politically correct.

Only for the masses anon. What's a little racism if the research gets you true strong AI?

The private market will strive for AI, but will cripple itself because having an effective but uncomfortable truth AI is not good for your stock value.

So it falls to government research to forge ahead with AI regardless of how uncomfortable it gets, because if you don't do it someone else will.


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>>1002198

I'm not reading all that shit but you have to be seriously retarded to not know that japs couldn't even come up with their own writing and use Chinese letters or simplified Chinese letters.

Saying jap >>>> chinese writing is pretty retarded even by 8ch standards.


 No.1008244

>>1001162

>harps about the behavior of leftists, repeatedly.

>attempts to lay it equally at the feet of rightists.

Cool story bro. Lrn2history.


 No.1008246

>>1001210

>Sexist Seagulls

topkek


 No.1008249

>>1001228

>start




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