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>The way I approached the design was purely from the design-that-makes-sense approach
<Ends up making a ship that looks like a slice of pizza with a benis
http://www.starwars.com/news/inside-two-deadly-new-first-order-vehicles-from-the-last-jedi
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▶ No.2192>>2274
>>2191 (OP)
Hey now, as your second picture shows, it has TWO Penises!
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▶ No.2193>>2196
>>2191 (OP)
Can anyone tell the difference from it and the one in ep7? I can't.
This image is the embodiment of what Star Wars has become.
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▶ No.2194
where's the rest of the ship?
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▶ No.2196>>2197
>>2193
>Can anyone tell the difference from it and the one in ep7? I can't.
Actually that's pretty easy, the Resurgent-class was rather jagged compared to the classic version, which combined with it's bowed hull made it sorta look like it had a gaping mouth at the front.
Mandator IVs are clearly flat slices of pizza with twin planet fucking dick guns.
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▶ No.2197>>2199 >>2222 >>2337
>>2196
You're right I guess in my mind it was different. Though I'm surprised how vulnerable ep7's ship looks.
They sort of look like big grey blobs if you aren't looking at the image often. At least in the EU Empire ships were more memorable like the Tartan or Dreadnaught.
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▶ No.2199>>2201 >>2389
>>2197
>Though I'm surprised how vulnerable ep7's ship looks.
Eh, the Resurgent-class apparently had plenty of point defenses, probably even more so than the Imperial-classes.
The Mandator IV's, however, looks like they were outright designed to suffer from "Trench Run Disease," especially since the film crew was outright required by story mandates to give it that flat dorsal hull.
>They sort of look like big grey blobs if you aren't looking at the image often.
Yeah, but that's kinda what happens with most Star Wars designs anymore…
As a Lego Collector, I've heard plenty of cries of "It's just another GREY BOX!"
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▶ No.2200>>2203
the biggest problem of all is that these new designs are literally member berries, whereas the designs in the lucas films actually had architectural thought put into them.
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▶ No.2201>>2204
>>2199
Say what you will about the The Phantom Menace, but it had some great new droid and spaceship designs. Totally unlike this shit
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▶ No.2203>>2204 >>2207
>>2200
The current directive seems to be "it has to be the same, but slightly different". The OT and the prequels pushed the boundaries. Now, under Disney it's status quo, plain boring.
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▶ No.2204
>>2201
>Say what you will about the The Phantom Menace, but it had some great new droid and spaceship designs. Totally unlike this shit
Yeah, but like >>2203 points out, Disney wants a safe bet of nostalgia milking over the risky gamble that was the Prequels.
And its not exactly unfounded either, just look up the Lego model for the First Order Heavy Scout Walker, otherwise known as the poor-man's Strandbeest.
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▶ No.2205>>2206
>>2191 (OP)
I'm kind of glad that someone realized it might be time to introduce a different type of warship than just a destroyer in the post-Tarkin Doctrine era, but as with all Disney designs it just doesn't look good. The bridge is impractically elongated and the meager armaments protruding from the hull look pathetic. But after lazily editing those out, it just highlights how flat and uninspired the hull is even moreso.
It shouldn't be hard to design a decent looking imperial warship variant, Star Wars games have been doing that for decades and they never needed penis cannons. Even the Resurgent-class from TFA could look half-decent if the hull was patched up instead of looking exposed, and if the bridge was a few decks less obese.
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▶ No.2206
>>2205
The Dreadnought looks like a starwarsified Destiny from Stargate Universe.
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▶ No.2207
>>2203
>"it has to be the same, but slightly different"
I'm willing to bet the reason they aren't just going with the exact same design is because of the toys; now they can sell 'new' toys that they hope people with nostalgia goggles will buy.
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▶ No.2219>>2220 >>2221 >>2223 >>2224 >>2225
Still baffles me how a insurgency is able to build a SSD like ship controlling less than half of Galaxy. DS and Executor were things capable only for a galaxy spamming regime with a tight control of the economy, diverting untold quantities of resource and money to the military.
Right… Disney, why i do even care?
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▶ No.2220>>2221
>>2219
>Still baffles me how a insurgency is able to build a SSD like ship controlling less than half of Galaxy
Well to be fair, this thing is only twice as big as their huge ass Star Destroyer, so it's not nearly as much of a stretch as Star Killer Base…
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▶ No.2221>>2226
>>2219
>>2220
because some fuckface at disney didn't realize the executor was created in the absence of the death star, same as the eclipse and dreadnought.
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▶ No.2222>>2337
>>2197
The ship is a fucking trollface, basically the entirety of Star Wars these days.
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▶ No.2223>>2270
>>2219
Because Disney is making movies for adults who thought the prequels were the most badass thing in their childhood. Let alone all the other bullshit Disney loves to shove in their "works of art" these days.
They don't care about the logistics of what it would take to make starships, in secret mind you, that are made very obviously for aggressive action. I mean, they made a goddamn planet into a giant laser-zappy gun, because that is impressive to people who beat off to CGI.
Ultimately, I believe any given nerd with no compulsion to make a self-insert could probably make a story somewhere in the upper-billions of times better than the last couple.
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▶ No.2224>>2226
>>2219
>controlling less than half of Galaxy
what worlds does the third reich, i mean, first order, even own besides the planet they converted into starkiller base?
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▶ No.2225>>2226
>>2219
Do we even know how big is the First Order or is it another shit from his "mystery box"?
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▶ No.2226>>2227
>>2221
>because some fuckface at disney didn't realize the executor was created in the absence of the death star
Well again, this looks to be an Orbital Bombardment Dreadnought, and they did just loose their system wiping, Star-killing weaponized Planet…
>>2224
>what worlds does the third reich, i mean, first order, even own besides the planet they converted into starkiller base?
>>2225
>Do we even know how big is the First Order or is it another shit from his "mystery box"?
All I know is they are operating out of the Unknown Regions, which is nearly, what, one third of the Star Wars galaxy?
That's also where the Chiss Ascendancy is, so maybe the FO are getting backing by the locals?
If so, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CLAWCRAFT?!?!
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▶ No.2227>>2228 >>2234
>>2226
>Well again, this looks to be an Orbital Bombardment Dreadnought, and they did just loose their system wiping, Star-killing weaponized Planet…
fuck, you're right, i didn't even think of that
[pottery intensifies]
>All I know is they are operating out of the Unknown Regions, which is nearly, what, one third of the Star Wars galaxy?
the unknown regions in disney's map is actually smaller than it was.
>That's also where the Chiss Ascendancy is, so maybe the FO are getting backing by the locals?
>If so, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CLAWCRAFT?!?!
i hope this isn't the case, chiss were never sympathetic to one faction, they just ran with whoever was in charge. making an entire species bad goys would be terrible.
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▶ No.2228
>>2227
>i hope this isn't the case, chiss were never sympathetic to one faction, they just ran with whoever was in charge. making an entire species bad goys would be terrible.
Well I doubt the Chiss are EBIL, just probably backing the FO as a convenient stick with which to continue poking the rest of the Galaxy with.
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▶ No.2229>>2230 >>2231
>Disney Nu Wars
Just found another shit… reading the wiki article about Darth Vader…
So now, in the nu canon… Vader became stronger in the Force after being mutilated in Mustafar… wfT?
>After his cybernetic reconstruction, Vader's connection to the Force strengthened considerably, to the point where his master Sidious once complimented his powers as being "unparallelled".[131][73] Though his injuries had crippled his physical body, Vader believed that the suffering that he had experienced had both perfected his spirit and freed him from the needs of the flesh, allowing him to concentrate solely on his relationship to the Force.[131]
This is utter BS!
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▶ No.2230
>>2229
but sheev purposely kept him off the painkillers during the surgery to weaken him physically and mentally, so that vader would have to focus his use of the force on repelling the pain and would be sheev's lapdog.
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▶ No.2231>>2232
>>2229
Actually, not really. Even in the EU it was mentioned, by at least 2 or 3 writers, that the constant pain and anger his wounds caused him gave him a pretty significant boost to his power. Add to that, we're told he actually had to get creative and not just spam force lightning, I can dig that.
I imagine he also grew stronger as Vader thanks to the constant conflict with other Force Adepts and sentients, rather than shit tier droids.
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▶ No.2232
>>2231
The guy was a cripple who couldn't breath by his own, lost all his limbs, lived under a perpetual depression and guilty.
Vader had to use the Force just to move around, to deal with the weight from his armor, he had to insulate his armor just to not fry in the first 2 seconds after being hit by some lightning.
Remember, "a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf". Vader was supposed to be stronger than the Emperor if he wasn't mutilated. That was Lucas saying "Vader = 80% of Palpatine" not me.
Boost from his anger and pain? It was just some surges, most of time Vader was mopping around. The Force was based on living tissue, "life creates it, makes it grow", not cybernetics. .
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▶ No.2234
>>2227
Also Disney would never add in a third faction or make anything morally grey, they would never risk going beyond "good vs evil" to avoid confusing and angering the audience.
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▶ No.2270
>>2223
>Because Disney is making movies for adults who thought the prequels were the most badass thing in their childhood.
Disney is pandering hardcore to manchild plebs who think the prequels were the greatest sin to Star Wars and George Lucas betrayed their geek childhoods. They even let has-beens like Will Wheaton "playfully" shit on the prequels at red carpet events so they can look they relate to millenials.
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▶ No.2274
>>2192
>it has TWO Penises!
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▶ No.2311>>2313 >>2315 >>2326
Mon Calamari Ships>Mandalorian Ships>Empire Ships>Consortium Ships>Hutt Ships>Non-Mon-Cal shit-tier Rebel Ships>Trade Confederation Ships>Benis Pizza
Fight me, faggots.
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▶ No.2313>>2323
>>2311
>Mon Calamari Ships>
Gee, who could be behind this post?
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▶ No.2315>>2323
>>2311
>dildo ships
>widow consolation device shaped
No, you stinking fish. Mon Cal ships are horrible. Like penises with tumors and blisters
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▶ No.2317>>2324
First Order should make a Death Ring instead of a Death Star that way when RESISTANCE tries to blowed up the core there's nothing there but empty space, checkmate
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▶ No.2323>>2326 >>2731
>>2313
>>2315
>Implying benis shape isn't best shape to pierce the heavens
Mon Cal ships have the most realistic design for space travel for handing high G forces and flying debris.
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▶ No.2324
>>2317
Make it a death slinky and pass it off as some kind of LHC-like laser device.
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▶ No.2326>>2350
>>2311
>>2323
I do like the smooth organic aesthetic they went with for Return of the Jedi, it's like Lucas intentionally wanted the rebel fleet to follow a design philosophy that was the exact opposite of the industrial-looking sharp edges of the imperial ships. It's kind of like poetry if that's the case. You wouldn't get that level of thought from Disney.
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▶ No.2337>>2338
>>2197
>>2222
Do they even sell toys/models of the First Order Star Destroyers?
All I've seen is the FO TIE Fighter and that's just the same as the original TIE but with some red paint.
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▶ No.2338
>>2337
>Do they even sell toys/models of the First Order Star Destroyers?
They do in Lego form, but that's more of a playset that can fold up into a mini-sized Star Destroyer.
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▶ No.2350>>2352 >>2362
>>2326
Did Lucas actually have anything to do with their design? I'd assume that sort of task would have been left to an art or technical team
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▶ No.2352
>>2350
On the prequels George had a dedicated art team making dozens of designs for props and costumes and then he would walk in and pick all the ones he thought looked right. I'm guessing he used a similar process for the original trilogy but I haven't read much about it.
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▶ No.2362
>>2350
Are there any descriptions in the scripts?
I would assume he would at least briefly describe the ships - maybe just a general outline perhaps..
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▶ No.2389
>>2199
>Whiteagle
The fuck is this shit? What's a "whit eagle?"
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▶ No.2731>>13640
>>2323
What about the Imperial wedge design?
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▶ No.13640>>14297
>>2731
Imperial wedge design is among the best designs for offensive ships specifically, because it maximizes front-facing surface area of the vessel, which lets you mount more turbolasers and shit.
Unrelated, I came to this thread searching for a link to that website where the author tears into the nu-Wars ship designs with autistic fury and points out all of the flaws with them on a creative, visual, and technical level.
So new flags don't work on old threads, interesting.
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▶ No.14297>>14310
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▶ No.14310>>14329
>>14297
Yeah, that's the one. Few things speak to me more sincerely than some guy on the Internet REEEEEing about grebuling.
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▶ No.14329>>14330 >>14333
>>14310
>grebuling
What is this? I can't find a definition
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▶ No.14330>>14333
>>14329
Greebling/Greebles are little pointless details to make a ship look more complex. Examples would be the junk inside the trench on the side of a star destroyer, or literally the entire surface of a Borg cube.
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▶ No.14333
>>14329
What >>14330 says, apparently I learned the special-snowflake spelling instead of the more common 'Greebles,' which is what made your search difficult.
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