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>>20875

But TFA was derivative shit. Also I already posted something similar a few threads back about Rey being revealed to be the true villain and basically the "Mother Ab" reborn. Maybe I'll consider trying to find it if bored enough.

>>20877

>But TFA was derivative shit

I am aware. I just wanted to see if it's possible to salvage any sort of decent story from where it left off

Alright I'll take a shot at this that will take a nosedive in quality as soon as I get bored.

Opening:3 years have passed and the war between the First Order and the cobbled together republic fleet has lead to the first peace talks. Leia is there with the Republic fleet much of it is the mothballed old rebel fleet with a smattering of newer fighters and some newer carrier class ships. She is there to conduct negotiations with her son who will represent the First Order. They are meeting in a space station in the center of a system with both their fleets standing out of range of the station and each other. Leia is accompanied by C-3PO and a robed figure with their hood up as they enter the negotiating room. They are meeting at an old senate chamber of the local government, the room mimics the republic senate on Coruscant. Leia points it out and how she spent her youth serving in the Imperial Senate, all the while working for the rebellion right under the emperors nose. Kylo arrives with his knights of Ren who fan out along the perimeter of the room before announcing that they have secured the room. Taking that as an invitation to start Leia begins the dialogue, calling for peace and an end to the FO's hostility, but the words fall on deaf ears as Kylo glares at the hooded figure. Leia trying to engage her son turns to the subject. Kylo declares his disappointment that master skywalker wouldnt come himself, that he would send one of his novices. At that point he launches himself at the figure who draws their lightsaber to meet Kylo's the battle is short and ends with the robbed jedi falling to the ground. Leia speaks the name soulfully, revealing them to be one of the new generation of jedi that Luke has begun training to challenge the First Order. Leia didn't expect her son to break the ceasefire and neither had the jedi. kylo takes her prisoner along with C-3PO who keeps referring to him as master ben, to draw out Luke.

Cut to the rebel fleet who are receiving word of the negotiation breakdown scramble Poe's squadron to intercept Kylo's shuttle and retrieve Leia. A prolonged dogfight/chase ensues, with TIE interceptor screens closing to cover the fleeing shuttle. Eventually Poe is able to disable the shuttle, but it is too close for the republic ships to attempt to capture it, with the FO SD pulling it in with its tractor beams. Poe having exhausted his weapon stores and facing certain death breaks off the attack. Not wanting to face Luke and explain how he failed he heads back to the fleet. While landing he is greeted by Finn, who tries to reassure his friend that there was nothing else he could have done that wouldn't have killed either himself or Leia and Kylo. During the debriefing /planning of their response Poe faces a lot of criticism and blame from several of the ranking officials, eventually causing Admiral Ackbar to call for an end for it but not in defense of Poe. Ranking officials decide to send Finn who has become a liaison between the Jedi enclave, to explain what has happened to Leia and get the support of more experienced Jedi. Finn is troubled already, and not just because of Leia's capture. the jedi hadn't been faring as well as they had been expected. Some had been given too much responsibilities and already the number of Jedi were unstable and the one Kylo had slayen was no help to the matter.

>>20883

cut back to FO detention block. Leia is contemplating her return to one of these cells with C-3PO, whom is glad he hadn't been blasted apart this time. Leia and C-3PO's banter fades away as we switch to the surveillance chamber for the cell. Here we find Kylo watching the feed listening to the familiar voices while folding and refolding his hands, ina repetitive fashion. He is alone save for a single knight of ren who stands guard at the entrance of the chamber in the background. Kylo begins to talk to himself/his mother on the screen(not that she can hear him), his voice low enough that his knight cannot hear him. He is speaking about how his mother will bring him Skywalker hand the end of the Jedi and how it is his destiny to end the jedi. Suddenly the screen changes from the red shaded projection to the blue of a hologram of Snoke, causing the knight drop to one knee as Snoke questions Kylo about Leia. The conversation eventually leading to the topic of Cloud City and how Darth Vader had lured Luke there by baiting his connection to his friends. As Kylo is left to consider the implications we cut away.

Hyperspace aboard a lambda inspired shuttle. Finn is in a kitchenette preparing coffee(i forget the equivalent) after pouring a couple of mugs he carries them down a corridor to a bunk room that poe is crouched in the corner with BB-8 projecting a battlemap of the failed rescue mission with Poe recommending alternate attack methods and BBis highlighting why it would have failed. Finn passes Poe the spare mug and they discuss the mission and Finn and Rey's relationship. How they don't see enough of each other during the war with her on missions and Finn assisting command as a liaison and First Order tactics consultant. before long they are exiting hyperspace in the Jedi enclave system and piloting down to their island monastery where training is conducted.

>>20880

>I just wanted to see if it's possible to salvage any sort of decent story from where it left off

there isn't

>>20884

Cut to the academy where hundreds of young recruits are running training drills. the many small groups illustrates the many stages of the jedi teachings in more organized classes. It has grown so much from the small school that it was when Rey had found him, but now had grown so much larger than what Kylo had destroyed. Luke is walking to the landing pad as Finn and Poe's shuttle comes to land. A group of padawan follow him as older jedi head to meet the shuttle to off load whatever supplies had been scheduled for Finns return. By the time the landing ramp has lowered Luke has made his way to the foot of it as the two young men descend to soberly great him. Luke interrupting asking simply 'what happened to her?' and having been informed he turns to his students and has them assemble the council to address the issue. The children scamper away and screen wipes to a small council chamber with audience seating the seats of the main council in filling as the conversation beings, the audience seating quickly fills as the conversation progresses and fills the chamber with jedi who came to hear what had befallen one of their heros of the republic and the greatest ally to them in republic senate. As a mission is discussed to rescue Senator-General Leia Organa Solo, Luke informs that the will of the force shows him that if he joins the mission it will not succeed, it requires Rey and several other Jedi(a twi'lek female, twin asian chicks and a weequay),Finn, and their pilots Poe and Chewbacca. Utilizing the force to locate Leia Luke feels her in torment, her great pain and suffering shocks him, unsettling him because he can tell it is Kylo who is doing this. This time he heeds the warning that Yoda had gave him so many years ago and left the task to minds not as tangled in this emotion. Wishing the team luck as they board the Falcon Luke finds R2 by his side asking to go along. Knowing the little droids usefulness R2 boards the falcon.

utilizing an old smuggling trick Chewie gets the Falcon to the First order stronghold where Leia is being held, a small desolet moon. landing on the surface the team approaches the base in breathing mask. The mission of stealth entry goes too well tipping the hand to the trap that lays ahead is ready to spring. The strike team is able to find a layout of the complex with R2's help and are able to determine the ambush spots and are able to turn it to their favor. this leads into the big fight scene where jedi strike team face off against the knights of ren guards while Rey and Finn face Kylo and rescue Leia. During the fights one of the twin asian chicks dies, and her killer is taken out by the weequay. the rest of the knights fall to the jedi while Rey and Kylo face off. While they duel, their styles far more refined, forged from actual conflicts. Kylo has faced several Jedi that actually challenged him more than unarmed old men he had been accustomed to facing and Rey had fought many battles against the First order and the knights of ren. Now facing off again the first time since crossing sabers on Starkiller base. Finn facing off against storm troopers and their new captain since Phsma died on Starkiller, a big talker that gets one shotted by Finn who had learned to shoot a loud mouth as soon as possible, fighting hi way to Leia. Finding her cell Finn is horrified by what he finds. Leia's limbs and jaw had been cut off by a lightsaber and a small entourage of medical droids were keeping her alive. Her eyes focusing on him with pleading eyes, begging for release.

This is a chance for a completely out of place memory sequence of Finn getting to know and work with Leia to establish the conflict of Finn just blasting her in the face, you know this seems like it would be good to wedge in the boring hyperspace conversation about relationships. IDK but it should be established.

>>20886

Anyways Finn comes to the decision to kill Leia as she is already going to die if he tries to move her(3PO tells him) All he can do is give her a mercy killing. The death of Leia is felt by both Rey and Kylo. But they show the opposite feelings Rey finds sadness of the loss of Leia and Kylo finds a macabre glee in his devotion to the darkside. The duel concludes with Rey being beaten but saved by Finn and the other Jedi and kylo escaping. The jedi run to escape with Leia's remains and on the way the cool weequay dies buy them time, knowing he will soon join the dead asian twin in the force saving the rest. The Falcon makes a daring escape and returns to Jedi island. There the Jedi give Leia a proper burial in the Alderaanian tradition. Afterwards Luke discusses Kylo's turn to the darkside completely and they both agree that there is no longer any good left in him and he must be destroyed, to which Finn and Poe agree and know the Republic will support it as well. roll credits.

It just needs a Rey B-plot to spice up the detection center and Hyperspace conversations with some action sequences of her leading a strike team of troopers against a FO armory or something that can end with a classic massive explosion.

>>20887

My first question would be how come you're not involving Snoke in most of the plot?

>>20880

Only way I can see it salvaged if they just go the JJ route and just make it a repeat of ESB. I'd hate it, but normalfags would love it and it'd be applauded as a success by the majority. The only fucking thing I would change is to have it revealed that Rey is actually Han and Leia's long lost daughter, that "Ben" is just Kylo Ren's nickname or middle name and that Luke has a son out there who will usurp Rey as the true protagonist.

>>20887

Not bad.

>>20889

To be honest it'd work best not to have the guy appear at all until the third film then have him revealed to be a failed Luke or Palpatine clone.

>>20890

I don't think using character relations like that would work well. Maybe one or two, but having that many would be too much and delve back into fanficion territory. I think the biggest problem is Snoke and it needed to be addressed in TLJ. They needed to explain why he's not just a Sheev knockoff and what his endgame was, otherwise the stakes are just a copy of the OT.

>>20893

>otherwise the stakes are just a copy of the OT.

That's pretty much the point. These new films really can't stand on their own two feet no matter how you write em. JJ, Rian and Kennedy made sure of that. Being OT knockoffs is the only way they can have success.

>>20894

I get that, but I wanted to humor OP and spitball ideas for fun, like way back on cuckchan for the prequels when /tv/ was a good board.

>>20889

My episode IX would have Kylo kill him, and highlight him as a master manipulator (not a force user) that Kylo finally rises up and kills along with Hux and takes control of the FO. He starts taking it in a Sith empire direction and slowly starts to learn more about the Sith and finally declare himself one. Then I'd keep the galaxy split between the FO/Sith empire and the New republic for a few movies to bring in the new jedi cast and kill off Kylo and Luke in a final duel of light versus dark that fractures the new jedi and sith orders as they both argue internally about how to continue the tradition. With the Sith its mostly power struggles, but with the Jedi is disagreements about accepting love and embracing jedi with families. That way you have a galaxy open to make Sith on Sith movies, competing jedi movies, jedi love stories that aren't kept hidden like a romeo and juliet BS clone.

>>20890

thanks

>>20897

I really like your ideas of having a different group of Jedi and not-Sith to have an actual war between them, since that's never been shown in a Star Wars film on that scale. Having them explore those two newish groups would really expand the movies and give them a unique feel. The only part that I found offputting was the extent of Leia's torture. I think that would be going too far in a few places and should be dialed back. Your scene could still work, just not at that level of brutality. How would you show these Jedi and their differences from the old order? What about the Knights of Ren and how they fit in with Kylo?

>The Republic lost some of their planets while the FO lost the third death star, leaving us with a stalemate

>Kylo Ren is summoned by Snoke, who scolds him for losing, but agrees to finish his training. It is then revealed that Snoke has more dark Jedi at his command.

>Rey talks to Luke and it's revealed that he's been hiding, waiting for Snoke to reveal himself and there's actually a network of Jedi in waiting. He starts training Rey.

>Meanwhile, Leia and Hux are negotiating for a ceasefire. Poe and Finn are with Leia, while Finn goes along with it Poe doesn't trust the FO.

>They're being double-crossed and Leia is taken prisoner. Poe and Finn get away thanks to precautions Poe had made earlier.

>Leia is brought before Snoke. He intends to use her as bait for Luke and plans to have her killed by Kylo as his final test.

>Sensing that Leia is in grave danger, Luke and Rey rush to her aid. They reunite with Poe and Finn and sneak onto the FOs command ship using Finn's knowledge of FO protocols.

>While Poe and Finn distract the FO, Luke and Rey confront Kylo and Snoke in his throne room.

>It is revealed that Snoke is actually Sheev, who had preserved his spirit using a phylactery.

>Kylo does not kill Leia and fights Sheev alongside Luke and Rey. They barely manage to destroy his body and escape.

>Back at the Republic base, they learn that Sheevs dark Jedi have assumed command of the remaining FO forces and launched an all-out attack on the Republic.

>Luke says they need to find the phylactery to bring an end to Sheev for good, leading into episode IX, while Kylo goes off, declaring he needs to fight Sheev on his own terms.

It's not great, and admittedly doesn't explain how Kylo turned to the dark side in the first place, but that's what I came up with while commuting.

The only thing I would have done different was leave in the alternate opening from the deleted scenes and the deleted scene of the island party.

>>20915

It's still something. Not surprising how every answer includes "Luke was still fighting in his own way" instead of nothing. I appreciate the little bit of pottery that Kylo is following Vader's footsteps by serving Sheev as well, just gotta give him a reason for it like you said. TLJ really didn't even try to do any kind of progression in story. It just meanders and gives the audience shit for wanting story development. The best way to describe it is all the times Charlie Brown would argue with Lucy about kicking the football. You know what's going to happen, but the argument they have with one another about the meta of it never changes anything. TLJ is the film equivalent of that. The only genuine twists they do have are almost calculated to be the most infuriating you could make.

Giving it more thought, I've got an outline of my own. Since you can't drastically change the FO or Resistance, the only way to distinguish it is to use Luke and Snoke as the real conflict drivers.

>Steal Nihlus from kotor 2 and have his ability to devour planets with the force become some spirit or monster moving around on its own

>this force beast is coming from the unknown regions because of the reemergence of the Jedi

>Snoke convinces the remnant he's trying to stop this beast, so they join up to stop it

>Snoke wants it dead because you can't rule a mountain of corpses

>FO benefits as they would become the saviors of the galaxy and prove how the New Republic was a illegitimate government not interested in saving people

>Snoke confronts Luke about this creature

>explains how his group of dark side users have developed a technique like that force bomb in the 1st Darth Bane novel

>it needs a sacrifice of someone extremely powerful in the light side of the force

>Luke refuses sacrificing anyone, saying they need to find another way

>time's running out due to all of them congregating together

>Kylo and the knights of Ren are too impatient with Luke for wanting to delay fighting and letting others, possibly including them die to this force beast

>they burn down the temple, taking with them the most powerful apprentices in the light with them, who Luke failed to protect, including the other white Korra

>her memory was wiped and her force powers inhibited, so they had time to manifest

>Snoke's trademark power is to unlock or unlock people's force potential

>by doing this to Rey and other kids from the Jedi temple, they can become little sleeper cells building lightside force energy

>from Snoke's part of the galaxy, their prophecy is how the force will also supercharge lightside users when there is widespread destruction

>they also need to be spread out as their power is awakening, otherwise the force beast will devour them all

>Rey is the first and only to truly awaken

>the others either died, failed to awaken, and a couple went supernova too soon and their planet was eaten

>Rey has also been bouncing from place to place fast enough during this time that the force beast hasn't caught up

>that's also why Snoke is always on the Supremacy, Kylo has his own ship, and why we don't see the knights of Ren

I'm sure there's tons of holes in this, feel free to poke them at your leisure. Part 2 coming soon.

>>20923

Part 2, forgot to mention one detail earlier. Starkiller Base had a hidden purpose that could change based on the story needs. Instead of Rey bouncing around keeping away from the force beast, killing that many people could cause such a force wound that it immobilizes the beast for a while. That way it's poetry with a purpose.

>the big argument in this is points of view about good and evil because poetry and whether the ends justify the means

>Snoke doesn't think he's evil for drawing on the "dark" side

>his belief is an inversion on the easier path, how is it easier when you have to fight every step to control such extreme power

>he's slowly dying because of this, and doesn't have the skill of Sion to use hate to keep going

>neither does he have the ability of Sheev to possess people Casper style

>he uses cloning tanks to make parts of his body and get surgery to replace them

>looking at his face, this is going as well as you'd expect

>Luke has gone to the birthplace of the Jedi to research how to find a solution with force ghost Yoda

>he hasn't trained anyone else because of the dangers of force users gathering, so he's The Last Jedi once more

>Rey and him discuss all of this and argue back and forth

>Luke doesn't mind teaching her, but they must be on the move, so he takes all the research he has and they leave on the falcon

>training sequence on the ship where Luke knows her and the other big twist, but tries to pull an Obi-Wan

>she sees through this and confronts him

>he takes "the" lightsaber and talks about what happened to him when this issue came up, refuses to tell her the truth

>she gets the idea it has to do with her parents

>wanted to focus on the core of the plot, so I have nothing in terms of locations or what everyone else is doing

>Rey eventually has a meeting with Snoke

>he drops the twist on her that her parents are part of the knights of Ren

>they show up and tell her how it was the most difficult decision in their life to do that to her

>they are proud of how she's grown into the ideal chosen one of the unknown regions prophecy

>they explain more about this totally different dark side group views both sides as the sun and night and how both need to rise and fall to support the force in total

>they also reveal that the force bomb won't kill her thanks to their hard work with Kylo and Snoke

>shes hesitating on whether to join them or not

>Luke shows up and has the other option

>his option is to find the mythological kyber crystal and use it to power this ancient lightsaber design he found on planet merchandise

>you get a piece of the crystal, put it in this old lightsaber design, hold it like Luke does on the original poster and it can slay the beast old school mythology style

>Snoke says that Sheev himself couldn't find it despite having almost two decades to look for it unopposed with the full weight of the empire behind him and it was wasting time

>the force beast would soon start becoming so hungry for force energy that it would devour planets even without powerful force users on them

>Luke says he has clues only him, Yoda, and the secret Jedi birth place would have access to that Sheev didn't

>Rey has to make a choice, she chooses her parents to no one's surprise

>Luke refuses to let it go this way, fights off Kylo and goes straight for Snoke

>Snoke is too weak and can't fight at all

>Rey stops Luke before he lands a killing blow and fights him

>she goes berserk and we get another pottery moment where she mirrors the fight in ROTJ

>Luke loses part of his robot hand (his lightsaber is intact) and is whooped

>Rey isn't sure what to do

>Snoke, surprisingly says to let him live and they need to leave to do the bomb thing while there's still time

>Rey goes with Snoke to prepare the bomb ritual, Luke dusts himself off and gets ready to search himself, with some help from the resistance

IX would have the twist where the bomb just disables the create. Snoke can absorb it since he didn't properly explain his power and use the beast's incredible power to sustain his life eternally. The lightsaber would still kill him though. It's a pretty rough draft like everyone elses, but I hope that it actually gives a reason to why the fuck everything is happening.

Copy Empire Strikes Back, then copy Return of the Jedi and finally, reveal that they were in fact reboots all along and make everyone involved(fans and the media) look like complete idiots for trying so hard to convince anyone with a brain that they weren't

Rey is one of Palpatine's experiments to create life/Dark Empire style life and had knowledge (ship piloting) implanted into her. This is why she's so good at the force, but also means it was all dark side. When this is revealed she gets possessed by Palp's ghost which hijacks the resistance to kill the First Order (they aren't loyal to him and challenge his position as the true lord of the Sith). The sequel is dealing with the reborn sideous after the first order is dead

>>20875

Rey is revealed not only to be evil but not the main character instead some extra from TFA is actually the hero and kills rey and kylo while wearing sun glasses.

>>20875

I like it how it is; it's the perfect dumpster fire for Disney Wars already.

>>20899

Yeah Leia's torture is kinda my typical 1st draft schlock. It'd probably be replaced with a life/death support system that will kill her when removed. Something that she would try to get Finn to do, but C-3PO would explain that it would kill her and he isn't sure what to do, but Leia does. Again she asks Finn to kill her and he does.

I picture there being at first a two way split of the Jedi, traditionalists who think that the only reason that the previous Jedi failed was because of the Sith plots against them. The other side being that the former Jedi order failed because it was too rigid and needs to be more accepting and forgiving of Jedi that go too far, that Luke proved that the darkness can't even hold the most powerful of them like Anakin. They push for a reformation to see the Jedi code amended or changed entirely. That last bit is what will lead to that faction splitting even more in the future. Luke already leans more towards the reformation as when he had tried to recreate the Jedi order before that failure had lead to Kylo Ren slaughtering and destroying much of the old school.

As for the Knights of Ren, I would give them the backstory of being part of a religious warrior sect from a planet that Luke and Ben had gone to where Ben had proved himself to be some prophetic figure and they name him Kylo Ren and pledge themselves to his service. Luke wouldn't allow it saying that their warrior code is not compatible with the way of the jedi. This resentment is part of what Snoke played off of to turn Ben into embracing Kylo ren as a destiny that Luke was trying to deny him. The knights act somewhat like the Jedi did in the Old Republic, serving as generals and commandos when a dangerous mission required their skill. Several of them are force sensitive and received minor instruction from Kylo Ren, enough to enhance their natural abilities but not the sorcery he has been studying. Of course by the time he kills Snoke he will announce that they are now his apprentices and begins to train them fully as Sith. As well as seeking out the force sensitive children in their territory to train as an army of Sith. The rule of two is over and it is now time again for a great Sith Empire with moe than just 2 Sith in it.

>>20930

The life support system would be better. I'd imagine the dialogue between them would need to focus on Finn learning to think for himself more and becoming a leader, not just a fighter in the resistance. His arc in VIII should've been breaking his conditioning more. Having one of the original rebels trying to teach him moral dilemmas like letting a fellow soldier die is better has the potential for good drama while letting Leia bow out.

Your ideas for the Jedi order and not-Sith are pretty good, you just need to take that material and weave in to the main plot you outlined more. Show how the Jedi are clashing and how Luke or Rey reacts to differences in the right path. I was thinking that Snoke needed to have more involvement due to the buildup TFA gave him, but most people who give a shit about TFA think he's the most interesting character, so maybe it is better to place the villain spotlight on him. I guess it really depends on what story you want to tell and what you use to tell it. Really makes me wonder what kind of fucking story Rian Johnson wanted to tell with purple hair bitch. Probably just "yas queen slay" on loop in his mind while writing, nothing else.

>>20933

In regards to the Snoke build up, I have a bit of OT thievery going on in my head to mirror the Emperor. He gets a bit of screen time to show that he is in control so that Kylo can have his rise to power(Vaders vision of how things would go if Luke had joined him on Cloud city). Kylo cements his place as the big unredeemable bad guy by killing him at the end of a long conversation with Snoke about his plan which gives Kylo something to run with for the next trilogy. I think a long conversation scene broken up with resistance adventure would flesh out most of Snoke's history and what his overall plans are for the galaxy. That way we could actually hear someones plan, I don't think we ever really got that with Sheev. I mean I know he wanted to rule the galaxy and study the force and maybe become immortal, but what else did he want with that power? It always seemed to me that he was too busy organizing things and getting projects like the Death Star in line so he could get down to getting all of his ducks in a row, but nothing beyond Unlimited Power! I'd like to think that Snoke had ideas for breaking up things like the Trade federation, banking clans and the such.I'd like to think he wanted to take power away from the corrupt senators, and away from force users like Sheev or possibly Luke, that he wanted to create a fairer government with a strong centralized military. I'd also write up how the old corruption of the old republic senate was resurfacing in the New republic, that it was just headed right back to favoring the wealthy systems while leaving the smaller systems to fend for themselves. Help spread the message that even democracy has its flaws when ruled by popular votes.

>>20875

Honestly, fuck your conditions. Salvaging the Last Jedi into anything other than a slightly less terrible movie would require redoing the entire sequel trilogy. Especially since they had perfectly reasonable story material lying around for decades and threw it all out the door, and they're likely to memory-hole all the pre-Disney films at some point.

>>20944

> characters

*charge

>>20940

I expect them to reboot the OT at some point. I think it will become inevitable once they cast a young Luke Skywalker (they'll make some dumb spin off first) since they already have a young Han and black guy (horrible casting).

>>20945

>I expect them to reboot the OT at some point.

of course they will, but it'll be Lucille Skywalker vs Darth Trump. hopefully their franchise implodes before they get the chance.

>>20955

I really hope they reboot the OT and claim that the sequel trilogy actually takes place in the shitty reboot timeline.

>>20972

>they still talk about nixon

really? I thought that "honor" went to princess diana. If there's any consolation, normalfags are getting tired of politics being nothing but a mudslinging contest, and the more mud that fuckfaces sling, the less that normalfags will trust them. Case in point, the more shit that JJ and the twitter conglomerate spew, the more that they alienate their audience.

<inb4 hurrhurr they'll just buy it anyway.

Everyone has a tipping point, TLJ is proof of that, you wonder why disco got killed? Disco died in the US because people got sick of it, if people get sick enough of assholes, they'll abandon them.

Nu-casfilm and disney are digging their own grave in the guise of it being a koi pond, all they need is a push.

INT. BEDROOM

PRINCESS LEIA wakes up and hears the sound of running water. She walks to the shower and opens the door and is shocked to see HAN SOLO turn to greet her.

HAN: Morning

(basically this exact scene would open the movie)

>>20875

Nice try Disney Faggot - don't shill here to fix your shitty trilogy

>The only real rule is you are not allowed to change The Farce Awakens in any way.

Then I wouldn't even bother because that shit movie destroys the internal logic of the entire universe. Ryan did the best thing he could possibly do by shitting all over that movie and its plotlines. The Farce Awakens ruined hyperspace travel, it ruined the force by having Rey just magically be the best there ever was, it ruined the politics and worldbuilding of the universe, it fucked up everything. You can't build something great upon a rotting foundation, and The Farce Awakens is just about the worst foundation one could ever have.

>>24046

this is the only answer

>>20875

First Disney’s nu-characters are garbage so you would need to recast (Daisy Ridley & Adam Driver especially) with better actors that can believably portray those characters. Second there are too many ugly people cast into roles (particularly the women) where are the attractive women? You know with actual tits like women tend to have and a female form? Third the excessive amount of leftist forced diversity/feminism propaganda in these films have created a situation where there are no competent men or few white people in these movies moreover there are even less aliens due to this pc bullshit this needs to be fixed. Fourth new order/resistance this has to go its retarded, confusing and sounds like a larpy communist or globalist group. The republic should be known as shock “the republic” and the “new order” as the “Imperials/Empire remnants”. Fifthly the imperials need to stop shouting instead they need to act like the imperial officers in the OT. Lastly the storm troopers should not be a joke rather they should be deadly and brutal.

<Cannot touch the corrosive poison that killed the soywars sequel’s foundation

That is tough if I can’t touch TFA then I would use TLJ to retcon/fix the events of TFA as possible.

Simply put TLJ should have focused mainly on Luke Skywalker as the central character & his plutonic relationship with Rey. Luke and Rey essentially need to become something like what Obi-wan and Anakin should have been in the prequels.

Luke’s story up until this point is as follows: Luke created a jedi academy with a small amount of students, the republic seemingly prospered, the imperial remnant was exiled to the outer fringes of the galaxy and no longer a threat. Years pass ( ~10 years before the film) Luke feels a strange disturbance in the force and discovers a dark influence over the republic, his students start to fall to the darkside, the whispers of a new emperor, and resurgent Imperial fleet and army. He leaves to the outer fringes to face this threat there he discovers a very powerful ancient Sith (Snoke or whomever) that is too powerful for him to face alone, he can no longer trust what is left of his students so he withdraws and maroons himself on the island to train and await Rey an average power force user (she is no longer a marysue) whom he foresees will be critical in some way to defeat the threat he faces.

Rey’s attitude (autistic feminism) changes in this movie to a normal and less hostile well-adjusted person. Her background of being abandoned and growing up as an orphan makes her quickly see Luke as a father figure. It is this bond that later helps Luke defeat the ancient Sith and the imperials.

Darth Emo and some of Luke’s students (since emo would have killed the rest) still live most of them are darkside users though there are a few jedi other than Luke still left and will be seen in the film as side characters.

Captain Phasma died in TFA and will not be back.

Finn is a genetically engineered sleeper agent that is sabotaging the rebels from within and he is not fully conscious of this at first.

Poe will die saving Finn as he should have in TFA only for Finn to destroy a critical piece of the republics defenses, Leia dies as a result.

Snoke change the name, make the character not look like someone’s grandpa also needs a good backstory.

Hux is replaced with new imperial officers who are not jokes.

Chewy is no longer Rey’s uber driver he does his own thing after Han’s death, recruits a new crew and is not see again in the sequel trilogy (enough millennium falcon/chewy fan service).