d5a296 No.5925
Why did Starfleet ditch MACOs in favor of jobber Redshirts?
05a194 No.5928
>>5925
>Why did Starfleet ditch MACOs in favor of jobber Redshirts?
Why beam down grunts into dangerous situations when you can send your senior officers?
67af96 No.5940
The MACOs were the last vestige of Earth's old militarism, and that just had to be gotten rid of. War is bad, mm'kay?
9b095e No.5944
>>5940
this, the direction of exploration was more important than conquering, also the Federation wanted to give a better impression to newer members
1e02d3 No.5949
Supposedly they were to be wiped out during the Earth-Romulan War.
3854df No.5952
>>5925
As always
>Mirror Universe is Best Universe.
d28b8f No.5979
They are a corps of professional redshirts.
What do you think happened to them?
The real question you should be asking is why doesn't any other species have something akin to the MACO's. Competent and highly trained marine style soldiers for manning their spaceships. Seing as everyone has transporters, boarding actions are pretty common in combat, so why the fuck is noone bringing specialists for the job?
f33fb6 No.5981
>>5979
>The real question you should be asking is why doesn't any other species have something akin to the MACO's. Competent and highly trained marine style soldiers for manning their spaceships.
Do you even KDF, brah?
9fbc6b No.5992
>>5979
Romulans have Remans
Cardassians actually have troops
Dominion have Jem'Hadar for some reason google tried to correct that to Jew Harder
Klingons well have Klingons
8c5d6c No.6005
>>5925
STO had the Feds revive the MACOs due to the new Borg threat in 2409.
Feds also can obtain the ENT MACO uniform with an ungodly amount of dilithium currency because the devs are fucking retarded and thought that would be a great way to offload dilithium horded by whales that use it to influence the currency exchange rates between dil and zen (store currency).
b8042f No.6013
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I actually played elite force before I watched voyager, and seriously believed they had implemented an elite hazard team for dangerous away missions.
c43648 No.6015
>>6013
>Randomly flick through video
>Segment where he is performing a holodeck simulation
>"Klingon Compound" selected
>Has to switch the difficulty to easy
wew
062cd8 No.6016
>>5940
MACO's were old Earth militarism true, but Starfleet is new Earth militarism.
062cd8 No.6033
>>6013
>check vid
>see this
I was looking for stuff to cook.
d28b8f No.6046
>>5992
But those are all the equivalent of regular ship crew, not special forces detachments trained specifically for boarding actions.
The regular crew need to learn how to do their jobs operating the ship, which would detract from the amount of time they can devote to keeping their skills as the ship equivalent of a SWAT team after all.
Just think of how much grief Sisko could have avoided if he had a team like that. Or the klingons when they attacked and boarded DS9, using troops armed with bat'leths and knives…
641ced No.6060
>>6033
>>6034
That is NOT a proper LCARS interface. Fucking disgusting.
062cd8 No.6062
>>6060
LCARS is an operating system for ships and starbases, not for PADD's, which have their own OS, and that is clearly a PADD as designated by "PADD" in the upper left corner.
641ced No.6066
>>6062
>not for PADD's
Incorrect, PADD's use LCARS too. LCARS changes significantly from thick to thin when transitioning from horizontal to vertical, with VERY few exceptions.
Those PADD pictures you posted do not have transitions.When they do have transitions, they are shown as proper LCARS.
641ced No.6068
>>6066
>they are shown as proper LCARS.
Should read, "Show as proper LCARS transitions."
The images you posted are still proper LCARS, and the way I had originally written that sentence could be taken as an implication that they weren't.
062cd8 No.6069
>>6066
>Incorrect, PADD's use LCARS too
No. LCARS are explicitly for the terminals of starships and starbase. A PADD can connect to system using LCARS (as it is designed to), but it is not a LCARS system by itself. You are wrong.
641ced No.6074
>>6069
LCARS is also the name of the interface. It is used on PADD's. Even your supposed non LCARS pads are LCARS, they just don't feature horizontal to vertical transitions. Do an image search for 'trek padd.' You won't find a single federation PADD that doesn't have LCARS, except maybe in the jewjewniverse or ENT. You certainly won't see the shitsmears you posted.
OK Geordie has a custom engineering PADD he made himself, but that doesn't count. It has mechanical buttons for fuck's sake.
062cd8 No.6076
>>6074
>It is used on PADD's.
There is no mention of that, anywhere. It is mentioned that they can access any interface with LCARS, which tells us that they do no use LCARS but are capable of communicating it. You are wrong.
641ced No.6077
>>6076
I've already more than proven it. I'm starting to wonder if you've ever actually seen Star Trek.
I actually went and watched the video youposted, and they got it right everywhere else except on the main character's PADD. Sad.
062cd8 No.6087
>>6077
>I've already more than proven it
No, you haven't. Just because they look similar doesn't make them the same. LCARS are specifically mentioned to be for Starship and Starbase terminals, not PADD's, and PADD's are specifically mentioned to have the ability to connect and interface with LCARS rather than having it installed on them. You can ignore this all you want but that doesn't make it not the case. You. Are. Wrong. Period.
>I actually went and watched the video youposted
I didn't post a video. No only are you wrong, you're also an idiot. Stop wasting everyone's time with your wrong everythings you illiterate mouthbreather.
fe6e87 No.6104
>Thread about MACO's
>Turns into autistic screeching about LCARS
I don't know whether to shake my head or be impressed.
8ead18 No.6107
tbh we should have board css based on look of LCARS. Do we have anyone in here that knows technomagicks?
e7e14c No.6121
>>6107
Don't do it. It's going to look like a MySpace/GeoCities page.
54fe8c No.6124
>>6107
It should look like the Klingon equivalent
062cd8 No.6153
>>6104
This is Star Trek, if you're not expecting autistic screeching then you have the wrong expectations.
a896f2 No.6157
>>6153
/strek/ autistically screeches where no board has autistically screeched before.
641ced No.6206
>>6087
LCARS is an interface originally created for TNG. Read some of Okuda's comments on it. It's used for every federation interface.
>connect and interface with LCARS rather than having it installed on them.
LCARS is not just the operating system, it is also the interface. I bet you're the kind of guy that thinks fish sauce is for putting on fish because it's called "fish sauce." You don't have to be connected to anything to use LCARS. A PADD in a cave in the delta quadrant with no means of connecting to anything still has LCARS.
>I didn't post a video.
I don't check ID's compulsively. You need to relax. It's the video with the screenshots in question. You know, with the improper LCARS? Or did you just see the word LCARS and start flipping out not even realizing there was a video involved?
>>6107
LCARS kinda sucks for practical use. I tried several versions of it a few years ago. I'm sure they've improved, and I'm sure they still suck.
>>6153
This. Trekkies invented autistic screeching.
062cd8 No.6208
>>6206
>You don't have to be connected to anything to use LCARS.
>A PADD in a cave in the delta quadrant with no means of connecting to anything still has LCARS.
PADDS. Are. Specifically. Mentioned. To. Interface. With. LCARS. They have their own shit on them but it's not LCARS. I don't need to have Windows on my phone in order to connect it to a windows system, do I? It's got that functionality built into it. Same with PADD's.
How many times do you have faggots have to be told this? It's like arguing against a wall with you lot. Accept the facts or don't, I'm not arguing with any faggots anymore about this.
738f93 No.6210
>>6208
The other anon is right. You don't Have to have windows to have the metro ui, but you still have the metro ui. There's even CSS so you can have Metro websites. Its not windows, but its still metro. You don't have to be connected to windows to have it.
ce3a98 No.6212
tactical Trek is best trek, after philosophical Trek
e7e14c No.6286
>>6206
Yes, it does. It feels wasteful of screen real estate as well.
f33fb6 No.6288
>>6104
>>Thread about MACO's anything
>>Turns into autistic screeching about LCARS
FTFY. That is what makes /strek/ comfy and glorious.
54fe8c No.6298
>>6288
The finest autistic screeching the entire alpha quadrant.
54fe8c No.6335
After rewatching DS9 it made me wonder if Keiko was some sort of security experiment in causing human suffering gone wrong? She would make the perfect warden for a maximum security prison, easily eroding any prisoner's will to escape or even live. Imagine if you cloned her and sent an entire squad of her to board an enemy ship? The crew would give up due to suffering immediate suicidal depression.
432ac1 No.6491
>>6335
They were trying to make Obrien into an everyman regular folks could relate too, so a whiny nagging bitch wife who's impossible to make happy reflects the modern experience of marriage.
062cd8 No.6501
>>6491
That only reflects the marriage of your parents, and even then you were to blame for most of it.
432ac1 No.6502
>>6501
I'm your father. I'm talking about your mother. Get out of our house.
062cd8 No.6503
>>6502
Pretty chatty for a man I shot dead, aren't you?
432ac1 No.6506
>>6503
that was just my hologram
062cd8 No.6509
ce3a98 No.6584
>>6013
this makes me want a FPS Star Trek space marine sim
20ac77 No.6586
062cd8 No.6602
>>6584
Make about the Eugenics Wars and I'd play it actually that video makes me want a game set in The Adventures of Captain Proton holonovel series.
05a194 No.6603
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>6602
>actually that video makes me want a game set in The Adventures of Captain Proton holonovel series
062cd8 No.6606
>>6603
Yes that's the part I'm referring to. That's in the video he's talking about Anon.
Also I want to take a moment to appreciate the Queen Arachnia's dress introduces us to Kate Mulcrew's nips.
ce3a98 No.6615
>>6602
>Eugenics Wars
would be cool, but not very Star Treky outside of context
062cd8 No.6627
>>6615
Well they are doing a Khan prequel series so it's gonna happen anyway.
f33fb6 No.6629
>>6627
>Khan prequel series
If I recall, it will mostly deal with them on the planet they were exiled on.
I think it will also suck. How are you supposed to cheer for the guy who will end up dying like a bitch?
062cd8 No.6631
>>6629
They'll undoubtedly have flashbacks to the period.
And I agree, it'll suck.
b1014c No.6635
>>6615
>San Francisco was a pocket of civilization after nukes
Fuck off, if there were nukes all major cities would be ash.
f33fb6 No.6637
>>6491
>They were trying to make Obrien into an everyman regular folks could relate too, so a whiny nagging bitch wife who's impossible to make happy reflects the modern experience of marriage.
3854df No.6684
>>6637
The way things are going Keiko might be a better deal than most men have a chance at today. So far as we can tell there's no such thing as divorce, alimony, or child support in 24th century law.
7ff80f No.6782
>>6603
I am so envious. I really wanted that expansion pack and could never find it.
8c4820 No.6783
>>6782
Reminds me that we need to find and stockpile strek vidya.
8bf49e No.6822
>>6615
>"Pax Europa"
>Includes northern Africa
>>6684
There's marriage, and given Humanity's general atheism, I have to imagine there's such a thing as divorce.
6b9f28 No.12688
Are there M.A.C.O.s in the Swoleverse?
cc32d0 No.12693
>>6782
Look for the Star Trek Action pack, it has Elite Force with the Expansion and both of the RTS games. It might help to have an old PC laying around though.
9a18d9 No.12697
>>6635
Why would anyone waste a perfectly good nuke on that shithole?
5d25c2 No.12725
2c0da0 No.13229
>>12694
Remember when Activision made games other than Call of Duty?
fddb6d No.13424
65e290 No.13845
>>13229
I thought they now make movies advertised as games?
82e623 No.14389
>>6822
>>"Pax Europa"
>>Includes northern Africa
Yes, we want them back.
71d2cf No.14391
>>14389
No we fucking don't, we have too much of those fucking Moroccans, Tunisians, Algerians, Libyans, Egyptians and other filth here, why would we want the rest of them as well?
They're parasites, worse then rats.
741dd3 No.14394
>>6615
>the Chinese people overthrew
The Chinks are worse than the Russians with the ingrained serfdom
82e623 No.14404
>>14391
Wait, I meant the clay, not the people.
17cd23 No.14419
>>14389
Be interesting to see a Swole Roman Empire.
127773 No.16625
>>14419
Misread that as Romulan
Regardless in each case a mirror Roman or Romulan Empire would be the equivalent of Greece and prefer /cuteboys/
bedd41 No.16638
>>5979
Well with intra-ship combat in the 23rd century relying on shields: it makes boarding far less likely or possible. However in ENT they don't even have proper transporter-stopping shields yet to having a detachment of marines on-board is far more worth the resources.
d69242 No.16640
>>14419
Don't you mean the Swoly Roman Empire?
1d8168 No.16644
>>16638
To use Starfleet Battles as a source of semi-canon, each race did have detachment or the equivalent of marines on their ships that they used to board enemy vessels during combat. They were used to perform strikes against enemy subsystems and were often very hard to defend against especially when the vessel was fighting.
>>16640
>A less autistic Holy Roman Empire
Not sure how that would be possible
000000 No.16683
>>6206
>This. Trekkies invented autistic screeching.
You never met old school Dr Who fans did you? From before it got tumblrated I mean.
373e1a No.16687
>>5925
Because MACO is United Earth military arm, and Starfleet is Earth's contribution to the United Federation of Planets which is not a military, but an armada of vessels on a scientific and diplomatic missions that are not aligned with a single planet or species.
They kept Starfleet because humanity wanted to explore the stars with their new alien friends, they ditched MACO because they were at peace and future wars would not be Earth centric but rather fought on behalf of the Federation as a whole
>but why did they assume they would never be at war again, and what if Earth wanted to leave the UFP and needed a fighting force of its own
Not saying it was a wise choice, but that's what happened.
373e1a No.16688
>>6016
>but Starfleet is new Earth militarism.
>Starfleet won't even admit to having warships and will only agree to build one prototype
>this is called militarism
Kid…
902aa3 No.16702
>>16688
>Militarism
>the belief that a country should maintain a strong military capability and be prepared to use it aggressively to defend or promote national interests
Starfleet is a military organization (it is a defence force and a very large one, up to date technology etc) and it aggressively defends and promotes issues of national interest (shoving Federation values into every thing it can, trying to control conflicts in other factions, imposing itself onto smaller faction disputes, gets all up in the grills of the other superpowers, etc), and the Federation population and government is surely extremely pro-Starfleet.
Starfleet is new Earth militarism. What, you think not calling them warships makes them not fill that role and count? Ya dingus.
443529 No.16706
>>16702
>only one nacelle
dude… you're so right about everything else… fix this shit.
373e1a No.16708
>>16702
>and the Federation population and government is surely extremely pro-Starfleet
Not true, watch the DS9 episode Paradise Lost
022082 No.16709
>>6157
Needs to be a banner.
902aa3 No.16713
>>16708
I have and I don't get what you're tying to say.
Are you trying to imply that a few Starfleet captains, officers, and cadets soured the entire Federation to Starfleet? Because that's not the end result there.
Or are you trying to say that you can't be pro-something without being willing to sacrifice all your rights to it entirely immediately without question? Because that would be a stupid thing to say, you double dingus.
>>16706
No.
373e1a No.16725
>>16713
What does "extremely" mean to you in this case?'
Just kinda psyched sometimes?
902aa3 No.16734
>>16725
You're answering questions with questions.
373e1a No.16744
0585fb No.16751
>>16713
>Spade Hull
>One nacelle
KILL IT WITH FIRE
2ac7ba No.18252
>>16713
Looks like a giant nose in a weird way.
c156a2 No.18746
>>16751
What's wrong with one nacelles?