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How badly did this fuck up the franchise?
▶ bd3903 (2) No.413>>418 >>20106
Not overly much. There was a brief fling with it when it was new and popular, but the films don't seem able to maintain that audience. They also fucked up by hiring actors who actually have careers outside Star Trek so they'd need a decent amount of money to come back for any more films.
That, combined with it not really moving much merch makes me think in a decade or so it'll just be some weird thing Star Trek did that most people ignore like The Animated Series.
Besides, JJ seems to have dropped Trek like a hot rock as soon as he got Star Wars to play with so I think the reboot is played out.
▶ 4bd886 (1) No.415
i watched the first two and they were god-awful garbage
but let's face it, it's not like ST wasn't a dead horse already anyway
▶ 0c66b7 (1) No.418>>681 >>7951
>>413
Almost like JJ wanted to make Star Wars all along.
▶ 87a872 (3) No.681>>686
>>418
>Almost like JJ wanted to make Star Wars all along.
You spelled "ruin" wrong. He's up there with Michael Bay for people on my "Fuckers I Get To Kick In The Balls/Twat" list. He's above Barrack Obama and below Justin Trudeau.
▶ bd3903 (2) No.686>>689
>>681
He's done bad kaiju, bad Star Trek, bad Star Wars…
I think he might be living proof that Monkey's Paw curses are real.
▶ 87a872 (3) No.689>>1964
>>686
>I think he might be living proof that Monkey's Paw curses are real.
And that /pol/ is always right.
▶ 87a872 (3) No.690>>748 >>8951 >>16817
>>406 (OP)
>How badly did this fuck up the franchise?
Well, let's see, now. Nero's time travel adventures have caused many large and small changes. The large ones are pretty self-explanatory (Vulcan gone, the crew is younger, etc.) but there are some things that make no sense no matter how you try to apply the butterfly effect.
>Sulu chooses to be gay in this timeline
>Scotty is exiled to Hoth for killing an Admiral's dog. AND he's blonde.
>Spock's decided that he can be human as well as Vulcan
>Khan's an easily-rused, super-pale gimp
>Klingons all over the universe seem to have suffered birth defects
>Federation uniform designers decided that miniskirts weren't enough, they also needed short sleeves
>Chekov dies in a mysterious car crash because he wouldn't suck circumcized dick
>The Klingon warden of Rura Penthe is somehow now a Vulcan working in the administration of the Vulcan Science Acadamy
>Uhura has gone from being a highly competent bridge officer to a sassy black Medea protagonist who is not afraid to tell the Captain to shut up while she emasculating her boyfriend.
More when I think of them.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.748>>754
>>690
Kirk Sr.'s death somehow causes the entire esthetics of the Federation to shift, slightly or hugely, depending. Including the cosmetic design of bridges, common Starfleet tools and weapons, and uniforms. Perhaps Mr. Kirk recommended the original timeline's designers to Starfleet?
>"Admiral, you've just GOT to go with the guys we hired to do our basement bathroom! Grey steel, red railing, and a bunch of random buttons that light up! Makes pooping a real pleasure!"
>"What about the guys that put in this bid?"
>"Are you kidding?! Did you see that bit buried between the hull and the warp drive where they want to charge us for lens flares?!"
▶ fa97dc (1) No.754>>768
>>748
The Enterplow is as big as the Enterplow E by the way.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.768>>776
>>754
>Enterplow
Laddie, don't ye think you should…rephrase that?
▶ 11771d (1) No.776>>857
>>768
It's accurate though?
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.857
>>776
>It's accurate though?
Ah'll thank ye ta be takin' that back, ye blouse-wearin' poodle-walker.
▶ dbc41d (2) No.871>>877 >>883 >>1005
>>406 (OP)
In a way, JJ did us a favor.
He created a Star Trek that's not only blatantly different from the universe we know, but he did it with time travel and dimensional manipulation. That means that shit like STD and even Enterprise can be happily regarded as taking place in the (((Abramsverse))). That's why they contradict canon: they're part of a different timeline altogether.
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.877>>883 >>893 >>913
>>871
A containment universe.
I like it.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.883>>893 >>908
>>871
>In a way, JJ did us a favor.
He did HIMSELF a favor. He was just covering his ass so he wouldn't get murdered by autists.
>>877
>Mary Sue Fag is Sulu
>"Mary Sulu"
▶ dbc41d (2) No.893>>894
>>877
I need to read this.
>>883
>Mary Sulu
lol
▶ e030ed (1) No.894>>902
>>893
>I need to read this
You need to post it if you find it.
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.902
>>894
Definitely agreed. This needs to be storytimed.
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.908>>913 >>914
>>883
>Mary Sulu
You laugh, but it looks like it's real.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.913
>>877
I looked it up. Apparently they're just Archie "tribute" covers to celebrate an anniversary.
>>908
If they really wanted to showcase the gayer side of Star Trek, they should have used Wil Weaton.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.914>>995
>>908
Also, I think I've finally figured out why I hate Keller so fucking much. Beyond being a Mary-Sue and the comic's obvious socjus agenda, he is probably the only Archie creature that was granted blue eyes instead of black ones and an actual hairstyle that exists after 1969. Also Veronica as his faghag is something to behold.
▶ 9e693e (1) No.974>>982
all reboots fuck up franchises.
>remember those series/films/games/comics/whatever you enjoyed? well they never happened. this is actually the first one.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.982
>>974
Don't even get me started on Michael Bay. We'll be here forever.
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.995
>>914
Aww, that art is terrible. How do you ugly up the Archie crew, being cute is pretty much all they do.
▶ 4f23f4 (1) No.1005>>1013 >>1063 >>1709 >>7920
>>871
Enterprise is a result of TNG and the Borg. The season 2 episode of Enterprise "Regeneration" is about the NX-01 battling borg frozen in ice from First Contact. The Borg send a message to the Delta Quadrant alerting the Borg to humanity. In TNG, Q flings the Enterprise to the Borg who are on their way to Earth because of the signal previously mentioned. One can not happen without the other. Enterprise still happened.
▶ bd2f17 (1) No.1013>>1070
>>1005
enterprise haters btfo
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1063
>>1005
>dat impeccable logic, tho
▶ a8bce6 (1) No.1070>>1610
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>>1013
>Enterprise haters btfo
The only Enterprise haters are the ones who never watched Seasons 3 and 4, especially 4.
▶ 6a288f (1) No.1080>>1083
I just thought of the timelines being so fucked up in Jew Jew Universe. Wouldn't the Four Years War been going on during the time of these films?
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1083>>1111
>>1080
>the Four Years War
>ywn see Garth of Izar pwn a bunch of turtleheads
Why live?
▶ 80907e (2) No.1111>>1115 >>1163
>>1083
Star Trek Axanar Never Ever!
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.1115>>1118
>>1111
A god damned shame. I was really looking forward to it, too.
▶ bdb07c (5) No.1118>>1136
>>1115
Well the quads don't lie, Axanar though hasn't had an update in what, a year? CBS went GW on them.
▶ b4c2aa (6) No.1136>>1164 >>1299
>>1118
>CBS went GW on them.
Never forgive, never forget.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1163
>>1111 (checked)
>Axanar
You ever see Star Trek: Renegades?
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1164>>1293
>>1136
What am I looking at, here? The middle one looks like Melissa McCarthy and Uhura appears to be RuPaul.
▶ 09d035 (1) No.1293
>>1164
>The middle one looks like Melissa McCarthy
kek'd
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1299
>>1136
Fucking hellfire. When's that alleged "big one" that's supposed to dunk San Francisco (and the rest of California) into the ocean?
▶ eb6061 (1) No.1610>>1651 >>1665 >>7912
>>1070
I can take or leave season 3. It felt like a prelude to the 2004 Battlestar Galactica, and in my opinion had a lot of the same problems (overly dark and serious tone, too much emphasis on character drama, to name a couple). Season 4 did a lot to soften my overall opinion of the show, though.
Also worth noting is that Jeffrey Combs as Commander Shran completely redeems every episode he shows up in.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1651>>1665
>>1610
>Also worth noting is that Jeffrey Combs as Commander Shran completely redeems every episode he shows up in.
One of the best character actors alive.
▶ bb8be7 (1) No.1665>>1700
>>1610
>>1651
He was going to become a regular on Enterprise as well.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1700>>1710
>>1665
>He was going to become a regular on Enterprise as well.
Like a crew member?
▶ d566ec (1) No.1709
>>1005
Faggots BTFO. Enterprise is true trek.
▶ bdb07c (5) No.1710>>1738
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1738>>1759
>>1710
>Yeah as an 'advisor' role but essentially a crewmember.
Maaaaaan.
▶ d35f78 (1) No.1759>>1805
>>1738
I remembered someone speculating it would leadup as the First Andorian Captain in Starfleet. Think it the scene was meant to be something like: Shran and Archer are sitting down looking over personnel files. They've been asked to recommend someone to command a new NX Class but can't find anyone with the experience needed to face the Romulan threat. Archer suddenly has a lightbulb moment then asks Shran "What about you?"
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1805>>1809
>>1759
Dammit! That would have been the tits!
Life is suffering.
▶ bdb07c (5) No.1809>>1812 >>1905
>>1805
Season 5-7 of Enterprise would have been interesting. Off the top of my head there would have been Shran joining the crew, Starfleet creating it's first Deep Space Starbase, the Coalition of Planets forming the very base members of the Federation, return to the Mirror Universe with Empress Hoshi, complete overhaul and refit of the Enterprise turning it from more explorer into a battlecruiser, the Earth-Romulan War, and of course more Porthos episodes.
▶ bdb07c (5) No.1812>>1905
>>1809
Oh and yeah the Kzinthi would have made an appearance.
▶ ea985c (1) No.1883
Just noticed that Jew Jew ships are about 3x large than Prime ships?
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1905>>1910
>>1812
>Kzinthi
Wouldn't that have been a copyright nightmare? They could have used the Caitians, instead.
>>1809
>mfw
▶ 32e736 (1) No.1910>>1972
>>1905
I am not sure with Enterprise cause I think they would have held the rights? Also Caitians are another species who are part of the Federation and even appeared in the films. The Kzinthi are not and supposedly were at war with humanity even during the 20th century.
▶ c67393 (1) No.1964>>1972
>>689
No matter what I do or where I go, /pol/ is always right.
Everything Jew Jew did to Star Trek makes me sad.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.1972>>1989 >>2347
>>1910
>Also Caitians are another species who are part of the Federation and even appeared in the films.
wot?
>>1964
>No matter what I do or where I go, /pol/ is always right.
In my weaker moments, I sometimes wish we were wrong. I'd rather the bluepill version of the universe was the actual one.
▶ bdb07c (5) No.1989>>1994 >>2012
>>1972
They were in Star Trek IV
▶ 80907e (2) No.1994>>1995 >>2012
>>1989
Also in Jew Jew Trek and mentioned a lot during DS9
▶ 8d0f2e (1) No.1995
>>1994
The "Caitians" in jew jew trek were just humans with tails.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.2012>>2352
>>1989
Huh. I don't remember pic 1 and I always assumed pic 2 was some sort of bat humanoid.
>>1994
>mentioned a lot during DS9
Weird. I'd rewatch them all to check, but I don't feel like getting lectured by poor little Benny about what a racist I am.
▶ 48b543 (1) No.2347>>2364
>>1972
>In my weaker moments, I sometimes wish we were wrong. I'd rather the bluepill version of the universe was the actual one.
Of course you do. It's a lotus eater machine. It's designed to be preferable to real life, even as those within it neglect the problems around them and wither away.
▶ bb0b86 (1) No.2352>>2359 >>2365
>>2012
There was an alleged Caitian crewmember of DS9 who had a litter.
▶ bb6ddd (1) No.2359
>>2352
Better put in a request for larger quarters.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.2364
>>2347
>It's designed to be preferable to real life, even as those within it neglect the problems around them and wither away.
Got a buddy who's bluepilled who's been creeping slowly into red. He's a happy sort, normally. He's starting to sound like the Butter-Passing Robot from Rick and Morty.
▶ 81f2f8 (21) No.2365>>2547
>>2352
>There was an alleged Caitian crewmember of DS9 who had a litter.
So do they raise them as humans do, or do they put them in a box outside their doors with "FREE TO A GOOD HOME" written on it.
▶ 258ed1 (1) No.2547
>>2365
>do they put them in a box outside their doors with "FREE TO A GOOD HOME" written on it.
Top kek, we need OC of this.
▶ 7ddc6c (1) No.7906
Just discovered an interesting tid bit about how badly Jew Jew Trek fucked with canon.
Kirk was born in 2233
The Constitution Class, in particular the USS Enterprise was launched in 2245.
When Kirk took command of the Enterprise in TOS the ship was already 20 years old and not a new vessel.
▶ d752e4 (1) No.7912>>10809
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>>1610
>Also worth noting is that Jeffrey Combs as Commander Shran completely redeems every episode he shows up in.
That's because it's Jeffrey "The Question" Combs.
▶ b88fba (1) No.7920
>>1005
It was never stated anywhere that the cube Q found was on its way to earth. Enterprise remains a stillborn piece of shit.
▶ ecdd93 (2) No.7951>>20112 >>20638 >>20655
>>406 (OP)
The films themselves? Not all that much. They aren't any good, highly derivative trash, but they are a different Trek timeline and most people seem to have got that. So core Trek seems to survive intact and as long as that's alright, you can't count the series out.
But backroom deals set up by JJ, Paramount and CBS have been DEADLY. It's lead to STD and will lead to worse by the time it collapses.
>>418
He wanted complete creative control of the Star Trek IP, including vaulting all the old media and replace it with his shit. Either it was a way to bug the hell out of ST or he's the most balsy cunt in the film industry, but CBS told him to fuck off in a rare moment of clarity after they discovered merch for his films sold like shit. So he got asshurt and then jumped onto the Lucasfilm train.
Now one other point on that subject: you know how I just said JJ wanted complete control of Trek, including shutting down old media? Well, look at the state of Star Wars. A lot of stuff there has been shoved in the trash, and coincidentally you have someone there who had a similar goal elsewhere. Definitely activates my almonds, at least.
▶ 836935 (1) No.8005
>>406 (OP)
>How badly did this fuck up the franchise?
That's not what did the lasting damage. It's the Paramount split that killed Trek. One company owns the rights to all existing Star Trek material, including the visual designs, the other has the rights to produce new material. This means that if someone pitches a real Star Trek concept to the studio, where good story and character is at the heart of it, one that respects the series, where you could actually imagine the climax to an episode being simply two old men wrestling in the mud, everything in that pitch would need to be poked and prodded and guided away from itself by the executives. It can't have these uniforms, these ships, these characters, this music, this kind of storytelling. Everything has to fit within the confines of the licensing agreements.
Instead of a galaxy of possibility, it's a board room of limitation with the deliberate goal of not being too Star Trek.
▶ 6a44fb (1) No.8007>>8529
It's unfortunate they JJ Trek got rid of the old phasers for pew pew Star Wars style ones.
▶ 61934d (1) No.8443
>>406 (OP)
>How badly did this fuck up the franchise?
It created this
▶ ecdd93 (2) No.8529>>8530
>>8007
>S1 head melt
>breddy gruesome especially by 80s TV standards
>later S3 Varria kill
>flat 2D boring hole
They were fucking up really fast there.
▶ 67d9b0 (3) No.8530>>8531
>>8529
To be fair it wasn't a phaser that killed her, but a disruptor designed for maximum pain as your target feels their body slowly disintegrate at a molecular level from the inside out. There is the thing was banned.
▶ 67d9b0 (3) No.8531
>>8530
>There is the thing was banned
well I guess I should sleep.
▶ e6c607 (1) No.8533>>8600 >>8602
There was pretty good disintegration in that season 2 episode with the deaf mediator guy.
An anon made a banner from it already.
https://banners.8ch.net/banners/strek/1505634998886.gif
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▶ ecbded (1) No.8602
>>8533
disintegration should leave behind more charred skeletons.
that is how you make modern trek more gritty.
▶ 5cf336 (2) No.8695>>8696 >>8697 >>8862 >>9208
>>406 (OP)
For motherfucking fuck's sake.
Fuck J.J. Abrams. Fuck that stupid asshole.
Romulans that look more at home in Mad Max than in Star Trek.
Motherfucking "EXTREME RADICAL TUBULAR" extreme sports fucking garbage, EXTREME CAR CHASE, EXTREME 90210 BAR FIGHT, EXTREME SPACE FUCKING PARACHUTING SCENE WITH HAROLD PULLING OUT A FUCKING KATANA BECAUSE HE'S THE TOKEN ASIAN.
Several scenes taken directly the fuck out of Star Wars including a monster fight on Hoth and a "platform battle" above a bottomless techno chasm.
The fucking idiot playing Spock acts identically to his shit character from heroes, if it wasn't for the writers writing him lines that sound like nemoy he'd spend the whole movie looking intently at people while he choked them and stalking around with his shoulders rolled forward.
"New Timeline" means one thing, pure and simple: Fallout 3. "We own this now and we're going to shit all over it for the new generation of people who heard about this franchise but never experienced it. They won't know what to expect other than character's names, if that. And anyone who does know what the fuck they're missing can eat a dick, they arn't a large enough market share to make one iota of fucking difference."
Jesus fucking shit. I can't believe they took something that was already pretty damn terrible (That's right, real Trekkies know how much the real TOS fucking sucked) and just added a ton of fucking stupid camera shake and motherfucking generic sci-fi bullshit and slapped a franchise name on it.
This movie would have been far more accurate to be called THE PRE-CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK as that's exactly what it feels like. If you were to change the lines to avoid mention of the enterprise, captain kirk, whatever the fuck else, you'd have the chronicles of fucking shittick with some stuff in it that looks like they ripped of the enterprise's ship design.
Honestly had I been Leonard Nemoy I'd have done this movie for the money and really kinda sadly just shaken my head at the entire thing. When he started Trek it was a shitty hack job and he probably considers the entire thing a shitty hack job all the way through. But to see one flavor of shitty hackjob replaced with complete run of the mill feces that wouldn't have flown anywhere other than a short lived sci-fi series on fox if it weren't for the name must be pretty painful, despite the deplorable condition of the entire Trek franchise lately with Bacula's shitty failure show.
The worst part? Exactly like motherfucking Oblivion and motherfucking Oblivion 2: Beyond LinearDome, a shit ton of complete chucklefucks really love it. That's the magic of J.J. Abrams, Todd Howard and other pseudo-talented assholes producing all these disgusting rehashes of franchises and ideas (Including that fucking garbage heap Heroes). They take things that fucking suck yet seem mildly intellectual to mildly stupid people and wrap them in a package that makes stupid people proud of themselves for participating in said green apple squirts slip and slide. Easy sales. "Hey, it's a shooter game where I can like pick my outfit while I do quests from World of Warcraft!" or in this case "Hey, it's Star Trek! Everyone knows about Star Trek! That's got Captain Kirk! Oh, and Spock! I assume it's pretty much like Star Wars, I mean they're the same thing only one was a TV show right? Grab a ticket man, there hasn't been a sci-fi movie that I wanted to see because I have had a positive impression ingrained in me by popular culture since the awesome new Star Wars movies! Some fuckin' geeks say they suck, but it's because they can't handle change!"
Watch Star Trek if you must, but for the love of fuck don't pay to see this raging shitpile. And J.J. Abrams, if you're reading this, I hope that in your Hell cell your fucking "work" is played 25/8 (that's right, there's more time and days in hell) on the walls so that you finally actually have to observe the fucking disgusting hack bullshit that you produce instead of just scribbling it down and handing it off as fast as you can to get the taste of being a talentless fucking giant penis washed out of your mouth with the taste of middle market, lowest common denominator fucking garbage heap asshole's approval. You fucking piece of shit.
▶ 5cf336 (2) No.8696>>8697 >>8862 >>8962 >>9208
>>406 (OP)
>>8695
Let me make it clear for anyone who is up in the air about it. It's not like they deviated from canon a-la Fallout 3 and shit things up. They literally went back in time and changed history so that the old Star Trek "Never Happened" quote un fucking quote from the movie. They spend a good four minutes explaining in absolutely no uncertain terms that nothing that "should have happened" will happen due to the fact that a romulan from the future who is nothing at all like a romulan went into the past a hundred years or so in his fucking giant battlecruiser and gave shitface abrams free license to write and do anything he wishes. And besides that plot device being a complete hackjob (par for the course) instead of SETTING IT RIGHT AGAIN (which is how ALL the "good Trek" time travel paradox hackjobs ended) he fucking just continues on his merry way down the cloverfield referencing battleshit gabageica path he's cleaveland steamrolled for himself because nobody who gives a fuck is a decent % of the market share.
I realize that most people simply don't give a fuck, and so this little tidbit is for you special boys and girls out there who see some fucking prick pissing all over something with their spraying cock in one hand and "free licence!" on a flag in the other (Todd Howard, you piece of shit) and actually go "Man, it would have been better if you just kept some of the old shit too. People liked that old shit, there was no real reason to change it."
I'm not mortally offended that someone changed a few things up, I guess now that the entirety of that "will it blend: gi joes and penises" episode has kinda sunken in I realize that we couldn't possibly hope for better. Slapstick fucking water tubes you get teleported into and giant squishgar squigelf allergy hands. Utter lack of any kind of Gene R. style message past "RADICAL MAN, CHEATING WORKS AS LONG AS YOU'RE A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO GET HOME BEFORE THEY FOUND OUT YOU HAD A DAY OFF THAT LATER WAS NAMED AFTER YOU"
Was it a terrible movie? Yes. All Hollywood movies are motherfucking terrible. Was it exceptionally terrible for a sci-fi action adventure movie? Well, it certainly wasn't great, summer movie for tweens quality at best. But most importantly was it dumbed the fuck down about 80% and did it add "features" like F.A.T.S. (Fucking Asinine Transport Slapstick) that get a laugh out of the bottom of the Madden 09 barrel? Definitely.
Someone liked it?
I'll fight and die for your freedom to come into these great united internets and say you love the new Star Trek, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that you're a culture-less shitpanderer and that someone needs to take your money away from you that you spend on Oblivion and Star Trek and feed a fucking orphan or something. You should be the fuck ashamed.
▶ 7af358 (3) No.8697>>8935
>>8695
>>8696
Aha, there's the enraged autism I expected out of this thread. What took you?
▶ d74f29 (1) No.8862
>>8695
>>8696
I think this needs screencapped.
▶ 403226 (1) No.8935>>8939
>>8697
How's he wrong, though?
▶ 7af358 (3) No.8939
>>8935
He's not. I'm just amused that he took so long to show up.
▶ ba0610 (1) No.8951
>>690
>Sulu chooses to be gay in this timeline
This may or may not be the result of if homosexuality is based on birth or conditioning. (IE: Imprinting of some form). If it was birth then yeah.
>Scotty is exiled to Hoth for killing an Admiral's dog
This could be explained by just different circumstances arising after the timeline shifted
>AND he's blonde.
This I think is more to do with actor changes
>>Spock's decided that he can be human as well as Vulcan
This I think is moreso just a result of JJ Trek hugely simplifying the character
>Khan's an easily-rused, super-pale gimp
This is inexcusable since it occurs before the events of the timeline shift. They also turned Khan from just a superior person genetically to Superman with magic blood
>Federation uniform designers decided that miniskirts weren't enough, they also needed short sleeves
This I think is due to just changes in culture from the 60s to modern day in terms of uniforms.
>Uhura has gone from being a highly competent bridge officer to a sassy black Medea protagonist who is not afraid to tell the Captain to shut up while she emasculating her boyfriend.
This too
Although Uhura being competent in TOS is suspect since most of the time she was getting shit wrong.
▶ 58743e (2) No.8960>>9048
So I guess the thing from Jew Jew Trek about young Vulcans standing in little pods playing single-player Trivial Pursuit ‒ this being apparently some moronic writer's notion of the educational model in a super high-IQ society ‒ is now canon, since they used it in the new show.
I wasn't so annoyed by the films, but if this new show, based on them, takes off, then they were much more harmful than at first glance, since the new series is pretty terrible so far. The first episodes make "Encounter at Farpoint" look like Shakespeare, by comparison.
▶ 58743e (2) No.8962>>8983 >>9032 >>9231
>>8696
>due to the fact that a romulan from the future who is nothing at all like a romulan
I don't mind changing aliens' appearances in principle, but the directions they took are really bad.
Romulans are supposed to be a highly intelligent, proud, dignified race. Not like Nero's look as some tattooed MS-13 Uruk Hai. But also, they're Vulcans' first cousins. Since Vulcan appearances weren't altered for the nu-male films, Romulans and Vulcans now look nothing alike; I guess the ancient, shared genetic kinship was also erased with the timeline switch.
▶ a4482e (1) No.8983>>9025 >>10809
>>8962
He was supposed to be a "miner" so the whole Nu Trek Plot was how evil the average working joe is to paradise.
▶ 7af358 (3) No.9025
>>8983
I don't think they thought that hard beyond their distaste for blue-collars.
▶ 67d9b0 (3) No.9032>>9055
>>8962
Backstory was that he was just a simple miner that lost his family to the supernova, so the Tal Shiar decided to hook him up with their experimental Borg tech that turns every Romulan ship it touches 100% Pure Edge. Everything was the Tal Shiar's fault yet again.
▶ e98025 (1) No.9048>>9050
>>8960
>So I guess the thing from Jew Jew Trek about young Vulcans standing in little pods playing single-player Trivial Pursuit ‒ this being apparently some moronic writer's notion of the educational model in a super high-IQ society is now canon, since they used it in the new show.
It was in the old TOS movies too though wasn't it? Or am I remembering a different Vulcan quiz game?
▶ 631fbf (1) No.9050
>>9048
You’re right, we see recently reanimated Spock in a testing cell in voyage home.
▶ 47e690 (1) No.9055
>>9032
That is even more retarded than I could possibly imagine.
▶ 13f656 (1) No.9231
>>8962
that's the original characterization of Vulcans and Romulans. As the show progressed and the mythology was established, Leonard Nemoy intentionally judaized Spock and - by extension - all Vulcans. This was put into overdrive by the JJ Abrams reboot. Having the Vulcan/Jews be ethnic cousins with the Romulans complicates this, so i suspect that's why it's essentially being memory-holed.
▶ 149f33 (1) No.10807
They had Quantum Torpedoes in Jew Jew Trek.
▶ b08c1b (1) No.10809>>14961 >>20635
>>7912
You just blew my mind, anon.
>>8983
Uh, excuse me, but Nero is angry and revenge seeking because Romulus was destroyed, and Prime Spock arrived too late to save it after he promised that he would.
▶ be4512 (1) No.14930>>14952
I hate that the Hobus Supernova is considered canon in the regular timeline. I never understood how the Romulans losing Romulus was meant to cripple them? Weren't they an interstellar Empire with dozens if not hundreds of worlds? Didn't the Imperial Navy remain intact? Also fuck STO
▶ 6d746d (1) No.14952
>>14930
I haven't watched what you're talking about, but imagine The British Empire loosing Britain. That's gotta count for something. (I was gonna say London, but Britain is more accurate, being similarly hard to evacuate and stuff…)
▶ 6afbc6 (1) No.14961
>>10809
The most insulting thing about the whole affair is that when Romulus burned they had to call the guy Nero so that nomalfags could feel smart. Why do lazy writers have to do this all the time
>this is Professor Lupin heh heh you know like the flower heheh definitely not a werewolf or anything
>we here at the Janus Corporation like to present a friendly face to the world heheh this job will open a lot of doors ohoohoohoo
>let's call this intelligent ape Caesar ahaha just because, I dunno, he's a bit bald haaahahaahahaa not like he'll conquer or anything
The pervrted fucking Harvey Weinsteins of the world think just becase thy thought up a gay and shitty pun they need to insert it into a series of movies with a hundred million dollar budget and a hundred million fans who want to be able to take it seriously, if only the rapists would let them. Fuck Hollywood, they will never fit in with any major race. They have no logic, no honor, and, soon, no profit, and the US needs to stop shipping them billions upon billions of hard-earned American dollars. MAGA
▶ 47b25d (1) No.16808
STD makes me wish for JewJew Trek.
▶ 473066 (1) No.16817>>16822
>>690
>>Scotty is exiled to Hoth for killing an Admiral's dog.
Btw, this was "Admiral Archer's' Dog" Scotty literally fucking killed Porthos the bastard.
▶ 9be9c9 (1) No.16822>>18175
>>16817
How does Porthos live that long anyway? Is beagle life extension technology available for Admirals and VIPs only?
▶ e29d3f (2) No.18175
>>16822
Well considering Porthos is clearly an Admiral I see why not.
▶ f89dfa (2) No.18878
>>406 (OP)
Worst thing about nu-Trek is "Spock" ZQ looks like him, but comes across as too bitter and angry, rather than pragmatically chill, and occasionally witty.
They also began the trend of turning Klingons into poop monsters.
▶ 12a5be (1) No.19611>>20101 >>20112
So news on the Jew Jew verse with Queintin Cuckatino since we all blocked that out our minds from happening.
https://archive.is/YK2EN
Turns out The Reveant writer has joined the team so expect Kirk to get raped by the Gorn or something like that.
▶ af69bf (1) No.20101>>20104 >>20112
>>19611
>Star Trek is a key franchise for the studio, one that needs to be reinvigorated every few years
>Deadpool showed that R-rated versions of classic nerd fare can do ridiculously well at the box office
▶ 15854b (1) No.20104
>>20101
But deadpool was already a raunchy comic, wasn't it? They didn't take a rather clean, more or less family friendly old school comic and crank up the raunch.
▶ f89dfa (2) No.20106
>>413
>JJ seems to have dropped Trek like a hot rock as soon as he got Star Wars to play with
And we got Tarantino instead, oh boy now things are finally going to get better eh?
▶ 9dfafa (1) No.20112>>20121
>>7951
This. The three picture deal is done, and dead.
The residual radiation continues in STD. Get yourself tested for lens flares just in case.
>>19611
>>20101
>Tarantino
Because it's crucial to leverage Star Trek for feet shots, and n-bombs. LMAO who greenlights this???
▶ d22d4b (1) No.20121
>>20112
>Samual L Kirk
>"I'M SICK OF THESE MOTHER FUCKING GORN NIGGERS ON MY MOTHERFUCKING ENTERPRISE!"
▶ 5d8f27 (1) No.20635
>>10809
Hi everyone. I just saw my beloved planet get blown to smithereens, and everyone and everything I value die. Because Spock is a half-human twit, I'm also 200+ years in the past.
Instead of going back to my homeworld and giving the Romulan star empire a huge advantage in historical knowledge, teaching them about the oncoming borg, a full history of how to best play out the dominion war to leave Romulus in the ideal position to show everyone just how great we are, (Oh and start working on getting everyone moved off Romulus) I'm gonna fuck off and wait for some cock up federation scientist who wishes he was half as cool as us to show up, just to blow up Vulcan. Even though reunification with Vulcan would be another feather in the cap of the Romulan Empire.
I sure am a well thought out enemy! Thanks JJ for making my motives so completely internally consistent!
▶ d61911 (1) No.20638
>>7951
>He wanted complete creative control of the Star Trek IP, including vaulting all the old media and replace it with his shit. Either it was a way to bug the hell out of ST or he's the most balsy cunt in the film industry, but CBS told him to fuck off in a rare moment of clarity after they discovered merch for his films sold like shit. So he got asshurt and then jumped onto the Lucasfilm train.
I think he always wanted to get on the SWars stuff, and yeah that is a very good point that I wished more people understand, everything JJew inflicted on SW, he did or tried to do when he was given the ST stuff.
>merch for his films sold like shit.
Despite what most of the media is reporting, whenever I see actual store aisles that is true. Not many people are buying Stronk Rey Rey or Spacenig. Original trilogy stuff still seems to be selling.
▶ e29d3f (2) No.20655
>>7951
>merchandising
That's actually one of the things killing Disney right now. Star Wars stuff is not selling.