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000000 (1) No.3656>>3667 >>3671 >>3688 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

in such an idealistic place such as the federation, and with other secret police type organisation like the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order deeply frowned upon, are S31 justifiable, or is their rhetoric about

>muh hard jobs

>muh difficult decisions

just an excuse for the feds to have their own black ops division which may or may not have tendrils in the government.because to me, it just seems they only appear to annoy the protaginists and be a bunch of smug fucks.

so what do you think

>tor doesn't allow image uploading

fix this shit

bf64c5 (1) No.3667

>>3656 (OP)

I think the way KikeKikeAbrams handled it was fucking stupid.

Its fairly obvious that Section 31 is just a section of law, publicly available knowledge even. Their is no organization. Its just a legal excuse for Feddie Intelligence to do whatever they feel is necessary.


b06b93 (1) No.3671

>>3656 (OP)

I guess Section 31 exists as a reaction to those other spy agencies. I mean, you wouldn't want to be the race that doesn't have its own machinery for physically removing spies, controlling information, etc.


63bd27 (3) No.3688>>3691

>>3656 (OP)

>are S31 justifiable

No. That's why they remained a secret from the majority of the Federation unlike the Tal Shiar/Obsidian Order are from their populations. They're hidden because they are utterly incompatible with Federation morality and they sure as hell know it so they operate in the shadows.

>tor doesn't allow image uploading

>fix this shit

Stop looking at child porn/buying meth while browsing 8chan then.


0394d2 (1) No.3691>>3693

>>3688

As much as I enjoy the thematic device they (Theoretically) represent, the trope of people fighting for a world that would never be allowed in has worn thin for me.


63bd27 (3) No.3693

>>3691

I don't really consider it a thematic device any more, more a spark of realism. My comfortable first world life is built on the suffering of Chinese and Indian kids in 16 hour shift factories who will never know what it's like to live in a world where my greatest issue is being too bored and honestly I don't care. It's how life works, currently and through all of time. It's inalienably part of the human condition. I live the idea that paradise is maintained by sin. It's realistic. It makes the Federation seem less like a fantasy and more like a reality.


b1d523 (1) No.3709>>3711 >>3716

>We will still not get Garak Crashing Section 31, with no survivors.


9746de (1) No.3711>>3729

>>3709

>Implying Garak wouldn't be working for them.

>Implying the only reason they allow him to live in feddie space and still maintain his old contacts, actively spy on the federation and run his assassination business, isn't that he's a double agent.


13ecb4 (2) No.3716>>3719

>>3709

>We will never get a trek series focusing on S31 clashing with the Tal Shiar, Klingon Imperial Intelligence, and the Obsidian Order.


63bd27 (3) No.3719>>3755

>>3716

It's probably for the best. When you get tv writers trying to understand how smart people operate and do things you end up with trash like Sherlock.


1d4c18 (1) No.3729

>>3711

>Implying Garak isn't there for their precious armory, gratefully accepted, he will need it.


13ecb4 (2) No.3755

>>3719

There must be at least one retired intelligence agent who's at least a bit of a fan and would jump at the consultancy bux. He may need to carry a taser to the office, just in case the writers get too retarded.




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