[–]▶ 73e7d1 (1) No.20709>>21102 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
So the Prophets keep on saying over and over again that they are "of Bajor". Also, there used to be spirits inside of the Celestial Temple, but were cast out and called Pah-Wraiths. This brings to mind a correlation between the book of Genesis and DS9, where the head angel, Lucifer, was cast out of heaven. This makes me believe that at one point in time that the Pah-Wraiths were the same as the Prophets, but did something to achieve their disdain.
However, what makes more sense is that possibly maybe the Pah-Wraiths are of Cardassia. Going back into ancient Bajoran history, Bajorans made contact with Cardassians millennia ago, and the entire plotline of giving Bajor 1,000 years of peace deeply involves Cardassians, and also a great penance is exacted on their people and populated worlds as well (through the liberation of their race from the Dominion).
Also, we know that Capt. Sisko is half-Prophet, so we know that the Prophets didn't just choose him at random, this was a timeline long in the making. That being said, the Pah-Wraiths also most likely have similar abilities to see far into the future but chose a Cardassian as their "Emissary" or whatever, which was also likely as deliberate.
This then rekindles the question, were the Pah-Wraiths originally of Cardassia? I've heard on some sites that I looked at for a minute that some people believe that the Prophets were something like a race of extremely ancient Bajorans that evolved beyond the physical plane. Maybe perhaps the Pah-Wraiths were much of the same but from Cardassia? This would explain the inherent struggle between the Pah-Wraiths and the Prophets, and why they were cast out of the Celestial Temple.
▶ 209f7f (1) No.20712>>20715 >>20717 >>20719 >>21294
>if I use earth religious verses it makes it possible for pah-wraiths of be cardassian gods
That makes no sense. The Cardassians don't have an iota of pah-wrath history about them. You're basically saying one jumped into a Cardassian so they're probably part of Cardassia. Which doesn't make sense because one jumped into Keiko and another one into Jake both before Dukat had one in him. Does that make the pah-wraiths of earth then? No.
>Going back into ancient Bajoran history, Bajorans made contact with Cardassians millennia ago, and the entire plotline of giving Bajor 1,000 years of peace deeply involves Cardassians
Okay so on that Bajoran trip to Cardassia thousands of years ago I want to say it's more likely that the Cardassians were ancient Bajorans who crashed on what is now Cardassia. Probably several dozen different groups over a few decades. I don't recall the Bajorans ever saying they had peaceful contact with the Cardassians thousands of years ago, and that ship that went there did crash and only got to Cardassia by accident to begin with.
Before everyone gets their knickers in a twist, every time an inter-species child is brought up it's brought up thusly:
>I wasn't aware [Species A] and [Species B] were compatible?
>They're not unless there's a little bit of assistance [in the form of medial professionals splicing the genes together]
That shit's always brought up in TNG. Like every time, especially when one of the parents is further removed from looking human as possible. You get the vanilla humanoid species nut buttering it up just fine, but if they have more than 3 grams of latex on their face then doctors need to sew the fetuses together to get them to work.
But for some reason Cardassians and Bajorans can mate and produce offspring without medical assistance (evidenced by all the rapebabies left behind on Bajor). It's highly probable that in the thousands and thousands of years of space travel the Bajorans had that a colony ship leave and crash on Cardassia, with the survivors becoming the Cardassians over hundreds of thousands of years through evolution forced by the harsher atmosphere/environment but not enough to really change the genetic information that allowed them to mate. Hell, knowledge of this might've even been known and suppressed by the Cardassian state - they knew the Bajoran's visited earth an kept it hidden until the Bajoran's confirmed it on their end.
So no, the Pah-Wraiths aren't of Cardassia. The Prophets are only of Bajor because they're interested in Bajor. They're not ancient gods but just some space weirdos. By the same token the Pah-Wraiths aren't of anything either, and they're just around to fuck up the Prophets shit for some reason. And the Cardassians are likely Bajorans who evolved to survive on Cardassia.
>"No! I must remove the hasperat" he shouted
>The hailing frequency said “No, Dukat. You are the hasperat”
>And then Dukat was a fire spirit.
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.20715>>20756 >>21050
>>20712
Excuse me. What did you just say about the glorious Cardassian race, you insignificant pile of vole droppings? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Cardassian Military Academy before joining the Obsidian Order, and I’ve singlehandedly masterminded no less than a dozen secret raids on our most pernicious and deceitful enemy, the Romulan Empire, and I have executed no less than 300 Romulan agents personally. The Order has given me top notch training in interrogation techniques and I can assure you that I am the top assassin in the entire Cardassian Union. Why, you are nothing to me but just another sniveling traitor asking to be removed. I will disappear you with unparalleled swiftness and superior precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this entire sprawling galaxy. You can mark my words. You think you can get away with spreading such foul treasonous slander in this quadrant? Think again, traitor. As we have been chatting here so enjoyably, I have already made contact with my vast network of Cardassian agents across the quadrant and your coordinates are being transmitted right now so you better prepare for the storm, you thin cortexed scum. The furious storm that swiftly and mercilessly wipes out the pathetic little existence you've managed to cobble together for yourself. You’re already dead, my little friend. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can end your life you in no less than seven hundred ways, and that is just by merely using my bare hands. Not only have I extensively and thoroughly trained in Obsidian Order interrogation techniques, but I have been given access to every single resource the Cardassian Union has to offer, and I will use them to their fullest extent to make sure your foul and disgusting countenance is no longer able to disgrace our proud race. If only you had the basic reasoning and critical thinking skills to predict what cold correction your “clever” little comment was about to forcefully bring down upon you, maybe you would have not been so bold as to speak up, but tactfully held your tongue instead. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, you found yourself utterly unable to hold yourself back, and now you’re going to be forced to answer for what you've said and pay the price, you simpleton. I will rain righteous Cardassian fury all over you and you will drown in it, pleading for me to let you get one more breath. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
▶ 18c0a6 (2) No.20717
>>20712
>"No! I must remove the hasperat" he shouted
>The hailing frequency said “No, Dukat. You are the hasperat”
>And then Dukat was a fire spirit.
▶ 915b81 (2) No.20719>>20762
>>20712
>I want to say it's more likely that the Cardassians were ancient Bajorans who crashed on what is now Cardassia
As unlikely as I found the 'lightship' episode of DS9 it was never implied that the Bajorans ever had more than a single experimental craft. Which makes sense if you think about it - weird experimental research projects that are lost with all hands are not likely to be repeated. This idea would require an entire Bajoran space fleet large enough to lose a number of big vessels over a few decades without it being the kind of catastrophe that ends the program.
>evidenced by all the rapebabies left behind on Bajor
Implying that even the majority of the half Cardassian kids on Bajor were the result of rape. Look at the number of French women who ended up in relationships with Wehrmacht soldiers during the occupation in WW2 - and the number who would later claim that it was coerced and rape when the war ended (to avoid having other Frenchies tear them apart, literally). We've nothing but the word of the Bajorans that the mothers weren't willing and eager. I'm not far enough along the line to say that 'Bajorans claiming X is proof against X', but they're hardly an unbiased source.
▶ 45350f (2) No.20722>>20723
While we're talking about Cardassians and Bajorans, did anybody else ever notice how easy it is to breed them? With humans and Vulcans, for example, there usually needs to be some sort of medical assistance in order to conceive a child, however, as DS9 shows, plenty of Bajorans were able to get knocked up by Cardassians with no assistance whatsoever. Due to this, the only explanation is that Cardassians and Bajorans are not so genetically different from one another and are probably more closely linked than the majority of alien species.
▶ 9ed990 (3) No.20723>>20724 >>20726 >>20731 >>22004
>>20722
Honestly, Trek plays fairly loose and easy with interspecies breeding. With Vulcans and Humans (and really, Vulcans and most other species) it makes sense (in-canon, just go along with it) since the blood is different and that would cause problems. But then you have
>Cardies and Bajorans breeding very easily
>Klingons and Trills apparently needing medical assistance
>Klingons and Humans breeding easily (though iirc a human woman would have some difficulty during birth)
>Cardies and Humans MAYBE breeding easily. I'm guessing that by that Cardie babe that wanted to fuck O'Brien not seeming too concerned with whether or not she could even get pregnant by him, so it's either something the Cardies have looked into or they're so used to genetic manipulation that it doesn't even come up as a concern. Also Seska wanting Chakotay's kid and I don't think the Kazon were advanced enough to have the medical equipment to make that happen if it wasn't natural.
>Cardassians and Kazon breed easily. Fucking Seska didn't even KNOW that was a thing and honestly, I'd be concerned too if a species some 70k ly away can easily knock me up.
>Klingons and Romulans breed easily, which makes no sense unless some behind-the-scenes medical stuff was going on
>Humans and Romulans are a question mark. They should work like a Human and Vulcan mix, but then Sela was a thing and unless his dad really wanted a kid with Tasha and had some Doctor look into that, it was a complete fluke. Simon Tarses had a Romulan grandpa but ofc we don't know much beyond that.
And these are just a few examples. Cardies and Bajorans aren't really anything special in the grand scheme of things since Humans apparently can fuck anything and a baby will some 80ish% of the time pop out just fine.
▶ 682efd (9) No.20724>>20725
>>20723
<Klingons and Romulans breed easily, which makes no sense unless some behind-the-scenes medical stuff was going on
Wait, when was this established?
▶ 9ed990 (3) No.20725>>20727
>>20724
TNG, Birthright. When Worf goes to a Romulan prison camp where Klingons were kept and started reeing loudly when he saw them getting along and having babies.
▶ 38513a (2) No.20726>>20730
>>20723
>>Klingons and Humans breeding easily (though iirc a human woman would have some difficulty during birth)
Didn't Torres say that they did need medical assistance?
>>Humans and Romulans are a question mark.
Romulans == Vulcans, the genetic difference is probably practically equal to the difference between Japanese and Basques. So probably still needed a doctor.
However, I think that natural hybrids -can- happened, it just is so rare that for guaranteed pregnancy you need a doctor to force the sperm into the egg.
▶ 18c0a6 (2) No.20727>>21024 >>21050
>>20725
>and started reeing loudly
On one hand, I can sort of see why he would. On the other, it's Worf. He didn't mellow the fuck out with his muh klingon heritage chip on his shoulder until DS9, and didn't he get it on with Deanna later on anyway.
▶ 9ed990 (3) No.20730
>>20726
>Didn't Torres say that they did need medical assistance?
I believe it was her, yeah. I could've sworn K'Ehleyr mentioned something about that as well, but I might be mistaken.
>Romulans == Vulcans, the genetic difference is probably practically equal to the difference between Japanese and Basques. So probably still needed a doctor.
yeah, I should've specified that. I was just thinking because the Romulans (at least starting from TNG) have a physically different look to them from the Vulcans there might be some other mixtures in there that would make breeding with Humans (and others) easier. Though then again, Spock chilled in Romulus without having any surgery done to his forehead, so those V's there might be rare in the Vulcans who stayed on Vulcan but not those who left and later became Romulans (meaning they were more likely to leave). But who knows, that's just fan theories.
▶ 45350f (2) No.20731
>>20723
Humans can always fuck anything, that's our superpower in most settings, whether they're sci-fi or not. We don't count.
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▶ 321ebc (1) No.20762>>20764 >>20766
>>20719
>As unlikely as I found the 'lightship' episode of DS9 it was never implied that the Bajorans ever had more than a single experimental craft.
That's not true. Bajoran's used space travel for 600 years. Also Bajoran history is over 500,000 years old. Either they're so retarded that it took them 500,000 years to do what humans have done in 50,000-odd years or methinks they had a few collapses in their history in which they left Bajor then everyone died and they started all over again, forgetting each time.
>Implying that even the majority of the half Cardassian kids on Bajor were the result of rape.
Well Cardassia is based around honor and respect to the family. Dukat lost all status when it was revealed he had a half-Bajoran child. Dukat also stole that dudes kid so he could later claim that he abandoned his son on Bajor. I doubt those rapebabies were planned. Ever. It would destroy the rapers life, status, and family if it was planned and for what? To just abandon them when they left? No, don't think so. Rapebabies.
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.20764>>20778 >>20779
>>20762
Don't they mention in TNG that Bajor had collapsed and that's what let the Cardassians waltz right in?
▶ 915b81 (2) No.20766
>>20762
>Well Cardassia is based around honor and respect to the family.
Would that not make it more likely that the vast majority of Cardassian servicemen serving with the occupational forces either truly believed in these values, or at the very least were scared enough of the consequences, to keep themselves restrained to a hardcore wanking schedule rather than hitting the Hasperat.
>Dukat lost all status when it was revealed he had a half-Bajoran child
This would re-enforce the point that there were very few cases of Cardassian/Bajoran sex (consensual or otherwise), as the revelation of Dukats half Bajoran child wasn't just case 300 of 4'238. We also only see one mixed child, they aren't being paraded around by the Bajoran government as a way to humiliate their hated enemy.
All the evidence we have points to a single case, which was consensual.
▶ 5dc164 (1) No.20778
>>20764
<WE WUZ
I bet you everything Bajor "accomplished" in the past was done while they were subjugated by another species, the truth of which was expunged from Bajor's official history when the aforementioned superior race(s) got bored of banging native sluts and went back home
▶ f2da1b (1) No.20779
>>20764
Bajor had massive infighting. They were literally niggers. Cardassians turned Bajor into Rhodesia while Bajorans turned Bajor into Zimbabwe Occupied Rhodesia.
▶ f5b99f (2) No.21024>>21050
>>20727
>Be Worf
>Ass blasted to the far reaches of the alpha quadrant about Klingie-rommie mixies on that one planet
>NOT HONORABLE.targ
>Bang Deanna
>No kids so it's cool, honorable.targ
>DS9
>Bang Jadzia
>Want to have kids with her
>VERY honorable.targ
>Because she is a 'Klingon woman' :^)
>Closest thing to Klingon woman in her is a dead Trill male
▶ 7bfbc9 (1) No.21050>>21060
>>20715
I shouldn't have taken a break from /strek/
>>20727
>Deanna relationship
It was so forced and out the blue it made no sense.
>>21024
Worf is the Klingon Weeb
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21060>>21061 >>21076
>>21050
>Worf is the Klingon Weeb
Daily reminder that Worf loses fights to every fucking thing. He loses fights so hard that he breaks physics, a God damned Ferengi can somehow dodge the lightspeed phaser beam Worf shot at him.
▶ d9eec6 (1) No.21061>>21072 >>21076
>>21060
He once lost to barrels.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21072>>21076
>>21061
and regular humans
and Ferengi
and safety railings
and fucking Tribbles
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.21076>>21078
>>21060
>>21061
>>21072
He didn pretty good in those Jem Hadar ring fights.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21078>>21088
>>21076
You mean the carefully managed ring fights against malnourished, tortured, prisoners of war who had stopped hoping for anything other than a quick death?
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.21088>>21089
>>21078
Whorf was one of the malnourished prisoners that the Jem Jadar fought. He kept winning and winning and gave Martok powerful murder boners.
▶ 61a7bc (1) No.21089>>21092
>>21088
>Whorf
Is that Worf's autistic cousin?
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.21092
>>21089
Yes. He lives by the sea. Give me a break I had just woke up and was posting on the toilet… again.
▶ 430ea3 (2) No.21101>>21103
Did Prophets created Abrahamic religions?
▶ 430ea3 (2) No.21102
>>20709 (OP)
Cardassia is very warm place. Pah-Wraiths are fire spirits.
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▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21106>>21113 >>21117
>Whorf was one of the malnourished prisoners that the Jem Jadar fought.
>Whorf
>Is that Worf's autistic cousin?
>Yes. He lives by the sea.
Whorf sounds like a swell and swole dude tbh. I'd be more interested in hearing epic battle sagas and bloodwine drinking songs about Whorf compared to the sad tale of how Worf got his spine broken by a bunch of barrels. :^)
In all seriousness, I forgot an exchange in that episode.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ethics_(episode)
"No question about it: she was bluffing, Worf."
"Bluffing is not one of Counselor Troi's strong suits… It would have been unwise to call. Yes, my hand was not strong enough!"
"You had Jacks and eights; she bluffed you with a pair of sixes!"
"How did you know what I had?"
"Let's just say I had a special 'insight' into the cards…" (points to his VISOR) "Maybe next time you should bring a deck that's not transparent to infrared light."
- La Forge and Worf, discussing a recent officers' poker game
Motherfucking Kuntakinte cheated in that poker game. His visor went to reading rainbow mode. Also heh Worf lost to Deanna in poker.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21113>>21114 >>21115 >>21150
>>21106
As much as these words catch in my mouth: To be fair to Worf she is fucking psychic.
▶ 7551de (1) No.21114>>21122
>>21113
Good point. Why does no one ever mention she can literally detect lies?
▶ a046e3 (1) No.21115>>21122
>>21113
Worf and Riker play cards with a psychic, a guy with x-ray vision, and an android hyper-autist that can count cards infallibly. Even so, they manage to pull wins every so often. Do beards provide good luck? Spoilered for normie beard fetishizing meme.
▶ 09f3dd (1) No.21117>>21122
>>21106
I feel like we need a story arc about Whorf, son of Mong
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21122>>21130 >>21138
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>>21117
>Uh arm Whorf, surn of Mong! I no tek muh pless ess forsd urffiser! I surv de carptern but I sternd fur da croo!
>>21114
>Why does no one ever mention she can literally detect lies
She seems to be kind of terrible at it, to the point where it became a meme that she could only predict the bleeding obvious a few seconds after it had happened.
>>21115
>Worf and Riker play cards with a psychic, a guy with x-ray vision, and an android hyper-autist that can count cards infallibly. Even so, they manage to pull wins every so often.
As stated above Troi is kind of a sucky telepath in TNG, Geordie has got to be sensible enough to know that you should let your superior officer win a few hands every now and then to let him preserve his ego, and Data probably struggles with the idea of Riker occasionally slipping a few cards up his sleeve.
▶ 18157d (2) No.21130>>21132
>>21122
Iirc Geordie claims that he only peeks after the hand is over.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21132
>>21130
>I only cheat after it doesn't matter, guys. Honest.
If anything the problem here is that he's just too credible.
▶ 4e5d67 (1) No.21138>>21150 >>21154
>>21122
>That song
The 90's were some complete cringeworthy autism.
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21150
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>>21113
Let me fix that for you etc.
>To be fair to Worf she is fucking psychic.
<To be fair, to Worf, she is fucking psychic.
>>21138
Badmouthing Dark Materia? You p'tak!
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21154>>21198
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>>21138
>complete cringeworthy autism
You do know where you are, don't you?
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21198>>21204 >>21294
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>>21154
>You do know where you are, don't you?
The part of the thread where it becomes a Trek musical interlude?
▶ c6e06f (1) No.21204>>21205 >>21277
>>21198
Shitty musical interlude if you're leading with that.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21205>>21211 >>21231
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>>21204
>Shitty music
Well, if you're sure that's what you want …
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>>21205
Pretty sure that's what he says he wants.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21223>>21224 >>21225
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>>21211
>[Cringe intensifies]
Is anyone able i.e. sufficiently autistic to determine if this vid is actually sung in Klingon or if it's just noise?
▶ 682efd (9) No.21224>>21225 >>21226
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>>21223
Not fluent but it sounds enough like the other Klingon I've heard that I'm tempted to believe it's words and not gibberish. Still not as good as this vid though.
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21225>>21226
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>>21224
>>21223
What Worf thinks is high falootin Klingon Opera turns out to be nothing more than lowbrow Klingonese pop songs.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21226>>21227 >>21267
>>21225
>>21224
Is it just me or are the fan songs primarily in Klingonese? I know I can't find any other species represented out there, does anyone have Romulan or Cardassian vids? Is there a group of people out there autistic enough to produce Ferengi music?
▶ 682efd (9) No.21227>>21243
>>21226
>Is it just me or are the fan songs primarily in Klingonese
Klingon is the most well-developed of the Star Trek fictional languages, and was designed by a linguist IIRC. Vulcan was made by a linguist as well but it's not spoken onscreen nearly as often as Klingon so it had much less work put in.
▶ 905d98 (1) No.21231
>>21211
>>21205
>pogofags get called out for their shit taste
>think they winning by showing their expansive knowledge of shit stuff
You got me. You guys clearly know your audible feces, basically experts if anything. How I pity envy you.
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21240
A Simpsons reaction image to boot, wew.
You probably got lost on your way to
>>>/tv/
tbh fam.
▶ 62c49c (1) No.21243
>>21227
Vulcan is for autistic lazy shits.
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21267>>21269
>>21226
>Ferengi music
Now I wonder. Do Ferengis create music? I see them more as the space ayyrab j00s. They'd be the type who sells bootleg spacebollywood holoprograms at the very low level, at the highest level own a holoprogramming studio, have the title of "Producer" but deals only on the financial side.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21269>>21270 >>21313
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>>21267
On the one hand you'd expect them to have produced at least some art - with wealthy Ferengi looking to flaunt their wealth they'd have a great market. On the other hand I can also see them completely abandoning art as 'completely unprofitable', as much as unrelenting greed is their hat they do seem to make terrible business decisions every day. I can only find one example of fan produced Ferengi music on youtube, and it's kind of shit.
▶ 682efd (9) No.21270>>21271
>>21269
>they do seem to make terrible business decisions every day
They started soft-retconning that in DS9 though. Quark and other Ferengi are portrayed as conniving and greedy, but not so stupid that they'll allow short-term greed to overpower long-term profitability. Ferengi being insanely stupid and such compulsive turbo-Jews to the point of impairing their own efforts more or less stopped with TNG and Roddenberry's attempts to strawman capitalism.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21271>>21273
>>21270
Even with that soft retcon though they were still where past the point where their greed was causing more problems than it was worth see: the NoJay Consortium, Quark selling his desiccated corpse prematurely, and Ishka running the risk of bankrupting her sons to sate her ego
▶ 682efd (9) No.21273>>21274
>>21271
>NoJay Consortium
What are you talking about, that was a bit of marketing genius on Nog's part. He sold Quark some land that he bought using Quark's own yamok sauce.
>Quark selling his desiccated corpse prematurely
That does look dumb in hindsight (more so when you consider he never got a second opinion for his terminal illness), but if you take his imminent death as a given, it makes financial sense. Auctioning off the pieces before the fact lets him take care of any outstanding debts, and gives him the disposable income to have a last hurrah of hedonism and debauchery before his passing.
>Ishka running the risk of bankrupting her sons to sate her ego
Yeah, Moogie is a cunt and ultimately the enemy of good Ferengi everywhere.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21274>>21275 >>21305 >>21313
>>21273
>NoJay Consortium
Nearly starting a 'diplomatic incident' with the Bajoran Provisional Government, over 7 Tessipates of land that was traded for SSS-bolts, which was traded for Quarks Yamok Sauce. All they got out of it was five bars, which was probably less than the original shipment of Yamok Sauce was worth by itself
>Quark selling his desiccated corpse prematurely
Watch the episode again, you can see the greed light up in his eyes when he realises he's dying and can sell his body. I'd suggest that the reason he doesn't get a second opinion is that he is terrified that he won't be able to sell his carcass if he's found to be healthy.
>The entirety of Ishkas life
She doesn't deserve the title 'Moogie' as that's a term of endearment (and only someone as retarded as Nog could be fond of her), thinking about it and it may have been a bit of a low blow to include her in the list as everything she touches turns to cunt (Even the Grand Nagus himself).
▶ 682efd (9) No.21275>>21276 >>21293
>>21274
They temporarily disrupted some civic expansion, that's hardly a 'diplomatic incident' That business with the loli ambassador was unrelated to the Stem Bolt Saga. And 5 BARS of Latinum is a nontrivial amount of money, especially for a pair of kids who managed to acquire it for basically nothing.
>you can see the greed light up in his eyes when he realises he's dying
That doesn't really detract from my point. If we take it as a given that Quark really is dying, it's a perfectly sound decision to make: he can't use the revenue from his corpse after he's dead, so why not try to gain the profits now? The stupidity comes only from Quark not getting a second opinion.
▶ 682efd (9) No.21276
>>21275
Not the loli ambassador, that was a different S1 episode, sorry. I mean the old guy on the moon. Either way shit was unrelated to Jake and Nog's shenanigans.
▶ f5b99f (2) No.21277
>>21204
So you're just going to go out and announce your taste is shit like that, eh? What a world.
▶ 57f538 (14) No.21293
>>21275
>They temporarily disrupted some civic expansion, that's hardly a 'diplomatic incident'
Everything involving the Provisional Government was at least at risk of becoming a diplomatic incident :^)
>The stupidity comes only from Quark not getting a second opinion.
Which is a decision motivated by his greed
▶ f98240 (1) No.21294>>21313
You know, when I made this thread this is not at all what I had in mind. However, since the topic hasn't really swung back yet and I don't think it's going to actually do that anytime soon, I'll go ahead and say my peace and this can go back to… whatever is actually going on in this thread.
>>20712
>if I use earth religious verses it makes it possible for pah-wraiths of be cardassian gods
That's an accurate but out of context summary of what I said in my original post. After looking over my OP multiple times I see that I had a lack of clarity on this matter. Really what I'm trying to say is that the practices of the Bajoran religion do distinctly mirror some IRL religious practices, which is most likely due to the fact that this series was made by humans - of which we all already have some religious knowledge (it's practically unavoidable) and it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to assume that the religion of Bajor is indeed based on some human religious ideals because of the writers being human. Further applying those ideals led me to make another assumption that possibly there was more of a connection between the Pah-Wraiths and Cardassia, given the dichotomy those races face.
However, the writers of the show as well as I would find it odd to apply religious events from human religions verbatim or in a garishly noticeable part as of course, the religion is from Bajor, hence why (at least in my mind) the idea of Cardassian spirits being the Pah-Wraiths make sense. Otherwise, the religion of Bajor mirrors human religions (specifically the casting-out of the Pah-Wraiths, which mirrors the book of Genesis) far too well if they all came from the same planet.
>Okay so on that Bajoran trip to Cardassia thousands of years ago I want to say it's more likely that the Cardassians were ancient Bajorans who crashed on what is now Cardassia.
This sounds plausible to me. This would also seem to back up my theory of the Pah-Wraiths being Cardassian spirits which also seems to sync up well with the Pah-Wraiths themselves - a group of basically the same individuals (we are never actually told who is stronger, the Prophets or the Pah-Wraiths - even when they battled their skirmish was rudely interrupted, yet it did look like the Prophets were winning the fight, and still the fight was not over) who are just somewhat off. Also we are never told why the Pah-Wraiths were cast out. Maybe it's because they were literally as evil as they seem, or maybe it's just because they thought differently or came from a different heritage alltogether and their evil-doing ways of wanting to destroy the galaxy was just revenge. Maybe at first the Prophets were completely bigoted against the Pah-Wraiths for being Cardassian?
>tl;dr
I can respect where you're coming from given my lack of clarity, but what you have said still doesn't change my opinion much. Hopefully you'll get what I'm on about because of all that shit I wrote up there.
>Now for something completely different
>>21198
Honestly I like this song. Very catchy, sticks in your head like a motherfucker and it puts me in a good mood as well. Of course Pogo is the type of guy that is really just doing this for shits and giggles and pokes fun at the material and the community surrounding it other than actually embracing it, but idgaf man I can like this song outside of his context if I want to. To be fair, you can't knock him for his makeup work either because that's pretty alright. Kindof a creepy Data tho, those teeth and those eyes… *shiver*. Compared to a lot of other Star Trek music out here, this is the least autistic I've seen. Maybe it is truly autistic, but at least it's high functioning, unlike some of the other "choice" tunes in this thread.
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>>21274
>All they got out of it was five bars, which was probably less than the original shipment of Yamok Sauce was worth by itself
>All they got out of it was five bars, which was probably less than the original shipment of Yamok Sauce was worth by itself
Five bars of pure profit, considering the yamok sauce was free.
Did they ever show yamok sauce or describe it's taste? Been wanting to experiment for it, as a chef.
▶ 810660 (1) No.21306
>>21305
Hollandaise sauce with a good dash of paprika or something equally kicky I imagine.
▶ 6d7878 (8) No.21313>>21315
>>21294
>Maybe at first the Prophets were completely bigoted against the Pah-Wraiths for being Cardassian?
All it seems to point to is the Pah Wraiths using Dukat as their vessel.
>unlike some of the other "choice" tunes in this thread.
I can't hate the Klingon Rickroll.
>>21269
>with wealthy Ferengi looking to flaunt their wealth they'd have a great market.
The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition seems to have enough contradiction and loopholes to make a profit off the creative arts a possibility. Or maybe dabbling in fake antiques, art forgery and money laundering through art.
>>21274
>was five bars
Isn't a bar of latinum considered not a trivial amount in that setting and timeframe?
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Latinum
>Denominations of gold-pressed latinum, in order of increasing value, included the slip, the strip, the bar, and the brick.
▶ 377dd8 (1) No.21314
>>21305
Check the /ck/ thread.
I think it was decided to have been a heavily spiced, possibly fermented, mushroom and/or fish sauce.
▶ 682efd (9) No.21315
>>21313
>Isn't a bar of latinum considered not a trivial amount in that setting and timeframe?
Yes, 5 bars is supposed to be a day's revenue for Quark's IIRC. A fairly autistic reddit post I read awhile back had the exchange rate of 1 bar latinum to ~5000 USD in today's dollars.
▶ fb92fd (1) No.21370
>Start reading this thread
>End up leaving it feeling hungry
fucks sake /strek/
▶ b1da55 (2) No.22004>>22017 >>22045
>>20723
I think most "mammal" looking humanoids breed easily with one another except for Trills, who are actually marsupials. Klingons Vulcans, Romulans, Ferengi, Kazon etc. are presumably straight placental mammals, and Cardassians are reptilian looking placental mammals. Marsupials give birth at a very early stage of fetal development and the baby crawls into the pouch where it does most of its development.
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>>22004
Do Trill ever stick their dicks into the marsupial pouch?
▶ f85d8f (1) No.22020>>22045
>>22017
implying that fingering the pouch isn't a standard part of Trill foreplay
▶ b1da55 (2) No.22036>>22045
>>22017
Well they stick symbionts in there, so I don't see why not.
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>>22004
>>22017
>>22020
>>22036
Where exactly is it established that Trill are marsupial? Is this in a book or is it just typical /strek/ fanwank?
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>>22045
I don't think it ever was, I'm just going with the flow. Aren't symbionts implanted surgically?
▶ 2ebb59 (7) No.22063
>>22046
Yeah, I figured it was just /strek/ fanwank. They are implanted surgically. In DS9 they do a pretty shit job with the surgical sfx, and it does look kinda like a pouch, but it's clearly supposed to be a surgical incision. TNG actually does the sfx better.