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b9294b No.4111

Hello /prog/, newfag here. I have about 7 years worth of experience programming professionally in various languages at various companies. Right now I'm out of work, and for all my job interviews the people ask if I'm an expert at [radom programming language] which I've used before. My trouble is I don't feel like an expert even though I smoke their technical questions. So I ask to you this, at what point in time did you realize you were an expert or at what point in time did you not feel like a fraud?

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b9294b No.4113

You may need to get better, but you can probably make do with a business translator.

"Expert" => "Reasonably competent."

"Ninja" => "Reasonably competent."

"Excellence" => "Reasonable competence."

"Exceed my expectations" => "Not be a drooling moron."

The scale of competency of programmers runs from

1. If you give them a task, they'll pretend to know how to do it and then produce nothing at all, while trying to keep the fiction up as long as possible. [DailyWTF candidates.]

2. If you give them a task, they'll produce something eventually, but it'll be complete shit and require a lot of further work before it can be used at all. [Indians.]

3. If you give them a task, they'll produce something that sort of works for you. Apply buzzword methodologies to distribute tasks over more of them, to have more done in the same time. Give them more time if you want a better product, repeat until product is good enough. [Reasonably competent programmers. The best anyone can hope for, and all that your interviewers are really selecting for.]

4. You work directly with them to produce a task, you supplying business information and they supplying technical information, and then they produce it, and it's awesome. Sometimes they come to you with a new thing that you realize you can find a business use for. [Experts.]

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b9294b No.4115

how about in regards to googling? Do even the awesome experts google to figure stuff out?

The reason i ask is the job im looking at now is going to pay me double what my last job is, and the new job is only a 4 month contract

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b9294b No.4184

I know that feel, though I'm far less experienced but I still know my way around.

Pretty much every programmer suffers from imposter syndrome.

>all my job interviews the people ask if I'm an expert at [radom programming language] which I've used before

You gotta figure out if they're a HR faggot spouting shit they don't know, or if they're an actual developer. If they demand you be an 'expert' they're probably the former. Use >>4113 as a reference.

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b9294b No.4185

>>4115

>Do even the awesome experts google to figure stuff out?

Yes. Even Carmack googles.

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b9294b No.4197

>>4111

Say you are an expert. You're a programmer, you know the fundamentals, you can be good enough in any given language within a week. HR has no idea what they want or need.

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