/prog/ - Programming★

I am not reading this wall of text, OP.

If you've gotten into programming because you genuinely enjoy it, then you'll get good and will be in demand because good specialist is always in demand.

Standards for juniors seem to be unreasonably high but mostly because of the costs associated with junior engineers. When you get through that barrier and earn a couple of years of experience, it gets much easier though.

Cons of turning a hobby into a job: dealing with real life problems, mainly deadlines, takes a lot of fun out of the process. But then you just get a different hobby.

You should do what you enjoy in life, if you feel that getting your degree will help you in the future go for it. In fact, no matter what people here say, studying will only be good for you

>>4104

>studying will only be good for you

Not when it costs you $40 000

>>4058 (OP)

Interesting read. I'm in a somewhat similar situation.

I'm doing a double bachelor, one in math and one in cs. I spent a lot of time learning to program and I've done some stuff I'm proud of, but I still feel like I'm far from a real computer wizard. I just don't know what I should do to achieve it. I've written lots of software in many different languages, and study the theory behind it at my university; what more can I do? Yet I remain a noob.

>>4318

> Yet I remain a noob.

Keep doing more until you become a journeyman.

Also, learn English.

>>4105

studying =! school

>>4318

>>4058 (OP)

Daily reminder that computer science has nothing to do with computers. If you wanted to become a computer wizard, then you should have studied electronic engineering. Computer science is the study of computation. You study computer science because you want to know about theory of computation which requires zero access to a computer.

If it's the only thing that makes sense for you to learn, do it. Become a computer wiz, use your degree to get employed (no degree is a serious disadvantage in the industry. Ridiculous? yes, but not all that they teach you at uni is useless).

The guy who wrote the OP pic is absolutely retarded. You don't just learn the syntax and are good to go. Programming is a craft, it is very common for a beginner to think that you can do EVERYTHING with your new knowledge, but as the years pass you realize that there is a lot to learn onwards. I've seen a lot of rookie code that looks like nothing but italian dinner.

You can become a computer wizard, and be much more competent than the bunch of mandeeps that line up for shitty monkey positions. There are a lot of mediocre people but there is always need for someone who knows the ins and outs of their trade.