e5b75d No.8461[Last 50 Posts]
Expect massive pushes for TransHuman development in the next 15 years after 2019. The 109 Country Traders are slowly putting in place all mechanical/unnatural means necessary for the next step in their total world domination. Also everyone here should take some time to read through "That Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis.
>It's going to be like the Matrix
No, the parasitic host still needs a physical form to take life from. Its not going to be "energy" they need like some shitty Hollywood movie, they want your blood and flesh. But all anons here, do not be afraid of technology, learn to use it to its max potential. Death before downloading your soul and human mind into a machine. Take care.
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e5b75d No.8462
Also I will be posting a lot of info dumps about how the parasites will be doing this in the next few days.
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24aae0 No.8483
Transhumanism is a hoax. The things claimed about it are either impossible or completely unknown. It’s not happening at all, in any form.
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e1149c No.8493
If possible it must be aggressively pursued and guarded from jewish influence.
Anything that improves humans is desirable. Our end goal is objective perfection.
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fdbc17 No.8514
>>8493
Objective perfection by erasing our humanity. Exosuits and at best brain implants should be our limit. We could naturally bolster our worth by utilizing eugenics and technology should be a tool, not a part of us. The issue arises with amputees though, as wheelchairs are tools but prosthetics are being made part of the body. At the very least, I agree with you that we need to get Jews away from it. They will use that technology to improve themselves and weaken us.
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383c0d No.8535
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>>8514
Genetic engineering is more precise eugenics on a more reasonable timescale.
As for outright replacing the flesh. I feel there is massive potential here, flesh has fundamental limitations and an engineered solution is the ultimate expression of civilisation and human ingenuity.
Whats more is that this approach requires the preservation and advancement of civilisation.
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d6cc4f No.8538
>>8461
the Final Solution?
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1e09c2 No.8557
>>8461
They won't be able to implement anything when they are all killed. The only exception is the replacements for women (artificial wombs and sexbots). Those must be implemented worldwide as fast as possible. The woman plague must be purged along with the jewish plague.
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93431c No.8564
Transhumanism seems to be the latest major pilpul and the big lie, an atheist version of Christianity. Humans are seen as "flawed" rather than "sinful" , there is a slavish worship of "god" (AI/technology), and a promise of eternal life (just mortal rather than afterlife). It's the same meme under a different guise. All you need to do in order to be "saved" is believe in (((progress))) and give a 'small' donation to Israeli and Jewish-American biotech companies :>)
Of course, the only way to overcome your animal limits is to embrace Talmud and turn yourself into a robotic insect (a kike). Any AI will be by definition infinitely inferior to even the dumbest of self-conscious and sapient organic creatures. Processing capacity does not change that fact.
Kikes are intentionally putting pressure on human biological flaws so they could sell them transformation into a kike as the only alternative. It's something like Necrons from W40k . It goes in line with their agenda to destroy everything natural/organic and replace it with an inferior, artificial copy.
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b14773 No.8571
>>8564
An equally plausible theory is that the kikes know that the first ones to become able to surpass human limits will be the ones to decide the future of our species.
Knowing such they work to ensure it is they who get there first and that even if it happens outside them, it happens on their terms.
Part of that being to keep their actual enemies from having any interest or desire in pursuing it.
Because if white people get their grubby mitts on it then they'll focus on uplifting all of humanity. Creating a new vastly superior humanity that won't fall for Jewish shtick and can no longer be manipulated.
Worse for the jews and their allies in the old elite, all those generations of inbreeding and the suffering they cause them will have been for nothing.
Their carefully cultivated "innate superiority" will mean nothing in the face of genetically augmented super humans. Worse it'll be pathetic in comparison.
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60a6b1 No.8585
>>8581
As it stands we know the Israelis are working on race targeted weapons.
But their main priority target is too similar to them for it to work on them (Arabs)
And they courtesy of fucking around in our part of the world so long are carrying too many markers from our people to make it feasible to target us.
So far anyways. Plus der juden ain't keen on having to actually work so total extermination isn't a big win for them
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6f3ead No.8737
>>8640
Given that hypothetical scenario it wouldnt benefit me it would only be to my disadvantage. It would be smart to do it given certain circumstances, individually and socially but right now that doesnt look that way.
That is why the "actual" knowledge gets hidden under a pile of shit, to decelerate the competition. We have no common baseline.
At appears to be a zero sum game, just like poker. We all play for the same chips, every edge you have is one edge less for me in an ideal scenario, which means less money for me.
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6f3ead No.8739
>>8737
That is also the difference between persuading and convincing. Persuasion will only get so far, convincing needs a natural base line.
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5e8097 No.8777
>>8737
This isn't so much about money as it is about power.
Real power not the power of money.
The ability to consistently produce more intelligent people is on its own a considerable advantage and one the elites have been able to rely on for a long time courtesy of their eugenics campaigns (the same campaign which led to their inbreeding)
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ffc0f9 No.8795
Whoever attains mastery of these technologies *will* be the elite, trying to overthrow the elite right now is almost inconceivable, and the only real advantages they have are nepotism and favoritism by the system.
Trying to compete with somebody who has an IQ orders of magnitude higher than your own just won't work out.
It is also imperative that we do not allow them to gain ownership over our minds and bodies the same way they were allowed to steal our digital footprints.
Energy, data modeling, AI, space and human enhancement are the most important scientific fields of the 21st century.
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d1b8bd No.8797
>>8538
>being so much of a brainlet that you think a sufficiently advanced AI couldn't figure out how to prevent you from turning it off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_box
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dd1e6a No.8807
>>8538
Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
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5ab0b9 No.8815
>>8807
Abominable Intelligence!
Burn it! BURN IT NOW!
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24aae0 No.8820
>>8797
>(((einstein)))
>smart
lol
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783fea No.8921
>>8795
>>8795
Very well written, i dont think that it is that bad but we already have a lot of ratlike discord trannies.
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3cb72c No.8932
>2050
>day of the rope begins, whites finally start rounding up jews to murder
>jews call up the CIA niggers and tell them to shut it down
>secret microchips in all the whites' body mods are activated wirelessly, shutting down their artificial limbs and organs
>day of the rope ends
>the whites who didn't die get stripped of their mods and spend the rest of their days rotting in a hospital and being fed food through a tube
This isn't even touching when brain mods are involved.
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b96c63 No.8934
>>8932
The CIA niggers would use ratlike discord trannies.
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000000 No.8937
>>8932
That's why we need to push for the equivalent of FOSS when it comes to biomed tech. It's begun with pacemakers and hearing aids and other simple things so now is the time to jump on it, but I know people won't demand it they just want whatever makes the hurt go away no matter how much it enslaves them.
The nerds currently pushing for libre solutions to traditional computing needs (Pinebook Pro, Librem 5, coreboot to name a few projects) are the only ones demanding this kind of stuff, so we as people who consider ourselves "awake" really need to lend them our support whenever possible, even if they are SJW faggots, because soon dissent of any kind won't be possible. By support I mean as little as raising awareness of their products and as much as actually buying them to support the projects financially.
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c42bbd No.8939
If anything we should be discovering every way to advance our body, minds, and will by supernatural/metaphysical means using only the power of our own physical body. If you can believe you have a soul, how can't you believe in a reality where it's possible to cultivate mystical arts of raw bodily power? Shouldn't we be investigating the practices of the martial artists, the wizards, the occultists and engineering some technique manual of transhuman self-ascendency?
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b96c63 No.8940
>>8937
> because soon dissent of any kind won't be possible
I doubt that.
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000000 No.8941
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>>8940
You don't think a situation similar to >>8932 is possible? You don't think that is something our masters have already thought about and currently seek?
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5dbde5 No.8953
>>8939
Here again; I've noticed most ill and brain-washed don't believe they are a soul. They dont' believe in life before and after this one, and they often don't believe in free will or willpower (unless they've never cared to think about it so are unzogged). This is the trunk of the evil we're dealing with. It connects every other evil from root to branch with eachother. How can you be anything but obedient and docile if you're just another machine? Our fear of AI and robot uprisings are the only thing giving these materialist cucks any hope, ironically. It's why militant atheist tech retards in Silicon Valley, reddit, and nu-male chan posters want to embrace the uprising of AI and robotics; it's like imagining themselves having a fucking backbone.
<Don't be a fucking NPC.
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5dbde5 No.8956
>>8939
Breath hope and inspire with a vision of reality that includes the fucking soul. You can't fail with an inspired, creative, free people of born-again saints, scribes, knights and paladins affirmed through spiritual knowledge of their metaphysical semi or outright immortality. I'm not Christian, and you don't have to be to believe in life before and after.
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5dbde5 No.8959
>>8956
Using Christian terminology would definitely hurt the goal of convincing people that they are souls, however. Christians stay the fuck out. We should have a society where Merlins are recognized or rumored of. The secular is a methodology, not an encompassing framework of belief.
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b96c63 No.8960
>>8941
The kikes or jews will have much bigger problems long before that, if every mongoloid under the sun can have artificial limps in your scenario than all the other social problems have been solved before.
>>8953
I dont believe in a life after this one, i mean beaming is the same like instant killing yourself and being put together at the same time. Before the pain can reach the brain.
The main problem silicon valley has is its insulation, all the smart thoughts and out of the box thinking and other shit amount to nothing, if kingkong decides to destroy it all before it can come to fruition. And that is usually bound to non insulated thinking.
It is like libertarianism, the 400k per year silicon valley cuck cant be compared to someone that makes minimal wage and then you just put in "motivational speeches" that leads to cognitive dissonance.
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fcd7b2 No.8977
>>8960
Beaming? You mean hope or some shit? Motivational speeches are dumb. You're confusing method with the end entailed. Your hopeless soulless NPC bullshit is unacceptable toxic well-poisoning. Fuck off.
Anyone who doesn't believe in the existence of their own soul has never cared to find out, or was fucking retarded in their inquiry, and will always be amoral egoic cunts. They are the trash of any political organization, the dead weight of any movement, the fucking parasite of all cause. They are NPCs and ought to be treated as such.
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fcd7b2 No.8986
>>8960
I mean the pep talk self-improvement motivational speeches are dumb. Don't fucking conflate this shit with empty pep talk and a convenient fucking delusion. There's nothing that has to prove to you you're a soul from experience alone; all you would do as an undeveloped or burdened (with an empty head, no fucking conceptual thought, retarded logic, with a dense material and actively changing living body) soul is perceive the world – nothing much thought, just sensed. Do I have to drag you from your body and hold up a soul mirror? How the fuck does that work? That it has to be proven to you goes to show how atrophied and weak-willed your soul is, how lacking in contemplation and concept it is.
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e2b13a No.8987
>>8977
What i m refering to is the encompasing of such "motivational speeches" in every aspect of the day to day life. Not in a political sense or a sense of a certain movement or idea.
My idea of a motivational speech is that of stimulating certain dynamical patterns not make useless cults.
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e2b13a No.8990
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fcd7b2 No.9004
>>8987
I guess you were referring to the AI statements I made then? I thought you might have been saying that talks of the soul are just pep-talks feeding into a pep-talk market. Convincing people of their soul definitely stimulates certain dynamical patterns you cuck NPC; hence my confusion. I thought you might have been somewhat intelligent, but you were just reciting some verses from the stale codex of your psyche.
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48c1bd No.9020
>>9004
>Everyone is an NPC except me
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b96c63 No.9032
>>9020
>Everyone who is by definition a non-player character as they claim they are soulless machines a la programmed A.I. or scripts in a gamified fucking reality are in fact NPCs except me and everyone else that recognizes that they are player characters and that their flesh will rot away but their soul will live on as fucking PCs outside of the fucking socially established parameters of what reality is. (and will live outside of these social parameters of what reality is whilst incarnated in flesh).
I know you're not Jewish anon; just retarded.
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83bb19 No.9046
>>9032
You sound like a schizo poster.
An American schizo poster
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46bd93 No.9052
>>9046
How are the shills more active than anyone else on here. Soulless literally = NPC. Show me the flaw in reasoning.
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fa06a7 No.9055
>>9052
When you believe that everyone who says something that hurts your fee-fees and disagrees with you is a shill, then the shills will always appear more active.
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4ea106 No.9056
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46bd93 No.9057
>>9052
I asked you to show the flaw in my reasoning and you claim I am basing my judgments on emotion, not reason. Where is the counter argument to what I've said, the actual argument at hand rather than tangents that you would cling to to split the conversation into multiple different ones without addressing the central issue so as to distract from it?
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46bd93 No.9059
>>9057
**Correction: I asked for A counter, not to you directly.
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9ceb4f No.9062
>>9057
Emotion dictates reason at the base level. You have to sit there comfyly. You got what you wanted, now i want mine.
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76a700 No.9063
>>9057
Basically your arguments are primarily religious.
There isn't a counter that doesn't amount to just saying "I do not share your religious faith" which you will immediately reject.
There's nothing provable or actionable to your arguments
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9ceb4f No.9064
>>9063
Not the poster you replied to but most of my "shit" can be proven at least in some sort of way.
I posted a link to the german goverment proposing a bill that allows the town idiot police fucker to have access to all internetz information that means mails, posting history even dating sites by a administrative offense, which means for example wrong parking or free pissing.
Well i guess wild boars were more interesting.
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155d2a No.9068
>>9062
Can you counter my reasoning instead of explaining why reason is meaningless and only emotion is valid?
>>9063
To call them religious are to call them the object of religion, but they don't require a religion and any individual should know where they stand in regards to these metaphysical issues/questions.
You are calling them unknowable and thus inactionable. You can definitely take action in determining their validity. Have you investigated claims of ghosts and spirits and 'miracles' or 'magic' that have to do with the existence of the soul such as bodies of people who lived spiritual lives not decaying? If you have not done so thoroughly and honestly, you clearly have neglected their actionability. You can invent thought experiments and infer from various 'supernatural' phenomena whether it points to the existence of life before and after, or not.
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155d2a No.9069
>>9062
To add, you bargain like a jew and are as self-serving as one too. Reasons when they can win, and claims reasoning is a scam when they can't.
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9ceb4f No.9070
>>9069
I m always self serving, that is my philosophy.
>>9068
Dunno it feels like a rather neutral experience.Some spikes though.
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593acb No.9072
>>9070
I'm not sure what you're responding to with your second line.
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e9fa4f No.9073
>>9068
Everyones corpse decays. If you honestly believe the talk of "miracle corpses" then you're a dam fool.
Every supposed miracle is either a misunderstood natural phenomena or a scam.
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593acb No.9074
>>9070
The color or style of your self-serving is Jewish.
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593acb No.9075
>>9073
My point wasn't whether it's true or not, but whether they went through the steps necessary to verify one way or another.
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fa06a7 No.9077
I'm honestly happy to see this /fringe/ shit allowed on /pnd/. Hopefully Kemmeth will bring his SCP writings to /pnd/ and take over.
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593acb No.9087
>>9084
Quite the assumption.
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593acb No.9089
>>9084
You're telling me you haven't really dug through it yourself?
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593acb No.9090
>>9084
Have you gone to "haunted" places or something like a graveyard and conducted some sort of contact ritual, or brought one of those 'ghost machines' that go through radio frequencies to try and pick up on ghostly communication, or go through different theories of soul, ghosts and the metaphysics involved and design some methods of investigation to narrow the possibilities down?
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000000 No.9092
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291f59 No.9095
>>9090
That sounds like a great way to waste time that could be better spent.
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593acb No.9097
>>9095
Ah. The existence of your soul is irrelevant. Brilliant.
>>9077
>>9092
Please get the fuck out.
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593acb No.9098
>>9092
Don't turn this shit into /fringe/ shit.
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fa06a7 No.9099
>>9098
>trans-humanism
>not /fringe/ shit
Nigga, please.
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593acb No.9100
>>9099
Smiley and SCP stories are for sure not related to transhumanism. Whether you are a soul and live before and after your flesh dies does in fact matter in this discussion.
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000000 No.9101
>>9098
How fast did you reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeport, you fucking faggot? I told you I will not let you rest. Nowhere is safe for you as long as I'm alive.
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fa06a7 No.9102
>>9100
But is it politics? This is /pnd/, not /x/.
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000000 No.9103
>>9097
Don't lump me in with some clearnet faggot, smiley. I've followed you from 4 to 8 to bunbunmaru and you will never escape me. Kill yourself, Kenneth, or we will convince your dad to do it.
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291f59 No.9105
>>9097
Basically your claim is that the soul exists. A tenet you share with pretty much every major religion.
They have a vested interest in spreading this fact if true as it increases their power as institutions.
I get it. You're american. But fucks sake this religious bullshit is a distraction
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840e1d No.9130
>>9101
I didn't shit.
>>9102
Yes, it is very relevant. A population is easier to control and draw into bullshit fucking fights, ideologies, activities and immoralities when they believe they're dead matter – they start to act like NPCs. You can't have a free, inspired people with common sense if it's not common sense that they're a soul incarnated in flesh. People that have no comprehension of their existence can't possibly orient themselves correctly.
>>9103
I'm not Smiley. I was arguing that mortality risk is the same for those that sleep 4 to 8 hours with someone, after reading about it in an article though.
>>9105
I'm not sure how you don't grasp why it's important whether you believe in you being a soul or not. People believing they're just wild animals and evolved from apes has had quite an impact on human psychology, behavior, and decision-making; yet living before and after this life doesn't? I'm just trying to draw a parallel that might get this through to you. Many concepts have been borrowed from a time where convictions of one's own soul existence were to be taken as granted; you are feeding on these concepts and drawing from their spiritually informed construction and inter-relations (meta structure? context?).
Your cognitive bias is immense and unexamined.
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840e1d No.9133
>>9105
>>9130
Or do you just not care how a belief or lack thereof in the existence of the soul affects a person? How it affects a nation? Do you not know and not care really to investigate the issue? To research, contemplate, and examine how your own beliefs may affect you? Do your beliefs often go unexamined?
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000000 No.9542
Excellent derailment shilling in this thread
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486d80 No.9544
>>9542
The americuck always serves his greatest ally's interests.
I propose we ignore it and move onto discussion of current possibilities and long term goals for anons in regards to human augmentation.
Personally I'm thinking some kind of distributed chan on the brain would be desirable
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24aae0 No.9547
>>9544
And reported. Too bad you're back, paid shill.
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9455f6 No.9558
>>9547
The shill is the one who derailed the thread with religious talk
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000000 No.9581
>>9542
>>9544
Shills are rusty, they forget this place isn't 4/pol/
>>9544
I really desire some way of improving the human-computer interface for this style of community. Again though, brain chips not developed by a trusted party (ideally yourself) are never safe.
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7d4bb6 No.9582
>>9558
>banned for REPORTING an anti-white D&C shill that spammed the website for 8 months straight
8chan is completely dead. It's over. We need to start dismantling this place by attacking it directly.
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c723ff No.9595
>>9581
Yeah really the big thing I feel is going to be having hardware as a seperate element to the connective elements.
On the plus side this looks like how Musk is approaching the issue. On the downside its Musk.
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2d351b No.9804
>>8937
Sigh. . FOSS is so pozzed now. I'm still depressed about it.
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000000 No.9950
>>9804
yes, but their self-inflicted weakness presents a good opportunity to fork their projects and remove all the bullshit diversity fluff. Devs will slowly trickle to you since no one likes working for screeching SJWs.
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94c1b3 No.9974
>>8557
If you think women are a plague then you have much more pressing problems than the Jews. Start with yourself.
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8fa9c8 No.11594
>>9558
Amazing how the thread didn't gain any momentum. I left the thread to let you guys have your own discussion about transhumanism but it didn't go anywhere, so I'll go ahead and restart my shilling.
I don't agree with transhumanism because it's fucking retarded.
My first point is on the technological "backdoors" that may be put into it, for easy hijacking or shutdown, my second is on technological error that would be catastrophic or debilitating, my third is that surveillance would be even easier, my fourth is that you're all weak pussies that don't want to evolve your corpus, animus and spiritus so you want the easy fix, my fifth is that wireless means of subtle interference, manipulation, thought control, etc. would be easy as FUCK and they can just claim that the shit increases the odds of schizophrenia to cover their asses "The brain and body has rejected the implant despite having no problems for years and induced schizophrenia in the patient." Your bodies are likely weak and undeveloped, your healing 'factor' weak and stunted, your minds like a savants (one specialty, no well-roundedness) or a flat dull retards (no specialty, ONLY rounded and spineless), inexperienced in fighting and mostly inexperienced in developing fight relevant attributes, and metaphysically incompetent in both knowledge and ability.
Most of all, you're naive. Naive retards.
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000000 No.11597
>>11594
>technological "backdoors"
Ha, biological is more than enough. Tech is a shield and a sword.
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8fa9c8 No.11598
>>11594
I'll admit that I can be over the top, and that the conversation would have gone better if I kept insults to a minimum. But I believe that the only way you can change your biology drastically is by volcanic willpower and gall like the sun, so I sometimes rant and rave.
If an animal can be incredibly strong and perceptive, why can't a human be even better? We are least bound of all the creatures of Earth. It is a lack of will that most restricts us, I believe. Every animal has a perpetual will to physically develop; even in sleep they are chased or do the chasing, trying to solve their existential problems one way or another. Human beings lean on their minds or others more than any animal does. Our brains or minds consume a lot of energy, and a lot of control or willpower. If we invested as much into our physical development as our mental, social, emotional(?) and spiritual or moral development, we would shift the graph a few standard deviations over and produce a Hercules.
>>11597
Biological "hardening" of the system (in the technological, computer security sense) is definitely possible. I think biology has a lot of untapped potential.
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d78640 No.11601
>>11594
>>11598
Don't apologize. Transhumanism is a kike fantasy and one of their end games. Nothing is sacred anymore and the body is the last to go. Our traditions are mocked and misused, our morality subverted and degraded, our nations flooded with outsiders, our language and intelligence lowered. Transsexualism is the beginning steps towards transhumanism and not just because they have trans in the name. The desecration of the body, the rewriting of its biology to fit a twisted and warped ideology, that is the true nature and purpose of this madness. To nature or God's will, whatever you prefer, upside down and inside out. Only a people as demented and evil as the Jews would push for it.
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0b077a No.11621
>>8483
Also transhumanism operates on the basis that technology both magic and infinite. Each time I see someone advocate for it, they are tech incompetent. Not just from how it is manufactured but also from how it works and even from how to use it.
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a586b7 No.11623
>>8797
>that dumb kike Eliezer's stupid-ass AI box, again
Who builds a recursively self-improving AI and then goes "Y'know what, I'm going to put this thing into a box"? Fucking nobody.
Also 8fa9c8 is a blithering idiot.
De-nigger yourselves /pol/
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fa06a7 No.11628
>>11623
>reddit spacing
>using an ID like a name
>calling this board /pol/
You have to go back.
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0b077a No.11799
>>11794
You forgot to add transhumanists below village idiot
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81ceb4 No.11810
>>8535
>posts gargantia
>misunderstands gargantia
Gargantia is a strong commentary AGAINST trans-humanism and playing with human DNA, whilst embracing technological development as a product of our superior minds. Very based if you ask me, and I have some anprim sympathies.
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8582e6 No.11835
>>11799
[laughs in blue collar]
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3ee9d5 No.11949
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f0ccaf No.11957
>>11949
What board is that? It looks like how julay's theme used to be.
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1abddd No.12024
>>11835
>haha the blue collar will do all the work, and they all agree with me
Eat shit, your type are the same kind of people you see in business meetings asking the engineer whether painting the car red would make it go faster.
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a0737c No.50163
>>8571
>An equally plausible theory is that the kikes know that the first ones to become able to surpass human limits will be the ones to decide the future of our species.
This. There is literally no reason you can't be based, redpilled and have a traditional family while running on silicon softcells.
No individual cell of the brain is constantly in a state of action or non-replenishable by cell death and regrowth. Therefore, replacing them one at a time at machine speeds with deathless micromachines that imitate the old cell's function will leave you in a state of cybernetic agelessness potentially without even being sedated.
It's the globalist kikes that want to copy your brain engram and upload it to an android while killing the real you that's the problem. They are proposing this version of 'transhumanism' right now, in mainstream media.
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c66148 No.50194
>>8564
Don't you get it? True Christianity is the way and the Truth of life. It is anti-theistical in it's very teachings despite what the businessmen try seeling you. Remember this too, that there's a counterfeit for everything. Proper ai, not machine learning, will at least on a speculative level assist in forming the counterfeit.
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