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but i dont wanna end war..?

>>388080

Well go send yourself to the front lines then. Don't expect anyone else to sacrifice themselves for your arrogance and stupidity.

thank you for the real news

>>388081

why? the only ones at war are Ukraine ZOGbots, Russian ZOGbots, and brown people in Palestine. Why would I want the killing to end?

>>388119

>>388120

World War III will be the scapegoat for looting the West and killing off whitey. Don't fall for it.

>>388121

>>388120

ok. so whats the plan bros?

>>388128

Me? Me and my family already prepared for the worst and we all plan to lay low when it hits the fan and hunker down, we live rural so we should be relatively safe. I suggest you do the same, stock up on all basic essentials to survive a year or longer during the next global war. Refer to the SHTF prepping thread in the catalog. Do your very best to stay out of the war and do not be very vocal when it starts because you do not want to raise alarms that you as a dissident exist. Do whatever it takes to protect yourself and your family.

>>388130

What if the goal is reversed? Israel killing Palestinians has turned everyone against Israel, while at the same time, hatred against Jews in the West is at an all time high. Ukraine is a laughingstock under Zelensky, while Putin's aggression has turned the majority against Russia. The migrant invasion is Europe has exposed naive whites to the truth about the subhuman species, and the weakness of America has Americans calling for a dcitatorship.

>>388131

You seem to be a bit confused. Americans are not calling for "a dictatorship" they just want an honest election without fraud. As far as Russia being isolated, no they are not at all. They have China, India, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Brazil, and many other smaller nations as partners. Russia survived all the Western sanctions because they are an industrial powerhouse and have friends in the Eastern world. It is true the Jews are being exposed over their war crimes in Gaza and that is necessary, but it does not mean I would risk fighting for Gaza or risk fighting in Ukraine or anywhere else, nor would I suggest anyone else do that. We need to get out of this mess. We should have nothing to do with Gaza or Ukraine or NATO or any of it, instead we should be trying to restore our county and fix the hellish problems our shitty political figures in the USSA have caused. I rather see American troops securing our Southern border than dying in Israel or Ukraine or some other foreign shithole. Europe should secure their own borders too. If Russia ends up taking the Donbass region who really cares? It's mostly a bunch of farm land that was being attacked by radical Ukrainian bolsheviks who hated the politics of the Donbass region. Hell, most those poor people want Russian aid.

>>388132

I agree with some of your points, others not so much. 74% of Republicans want to see Trump as 'dictator for the day.' Even so, Democracy has shewn itself inferior and vulnerable not only to corruption but propaganda. Russian isn't isolated, as you said, but Russia has lost the war for public opinion (they lost the mindwar), at least Russia under Putin. And I'm not sure about Ukranian Bolsheviks - all the Bolsheviks I know are Russian.

>>388133

During the mass killings in Russia most Bolsheviks were Jewish, many from Ukraine and they hated the Russians. Albeit, despite what the West thinks of Russia they have friends in the East and they are still trading with them. As for US politics, I do not trust a single God damned thing corporate media says, they are liars. The only thing I want Trump to do is remove the horribly incompetent and corrupt officials from their positions of power, cut governmental spending, cut taxes for workers and small businesses and stay the fuck out of other countries' affairs. We have a border crisis, a debt insolvency crisis, a gutted economy with horrible inflation, too many regulations that keep our GDP and manufacturing from being able to come back and thrive, we have a weakened military due to all the senseless wars and MIC corruption, healthcare is way too expensive, etc. We have too many of our own problems. Why are we focusing on other nations who don't really give a rats ass about us and spending so much money on their wars? It's stupid. It's making other nations resentful is all. It's making the citizens who have problems that are being ignored by these officials very pissed off too. So there goes their "rural white rage" theory.

>>388134

Your complaints are legitimate, but I don't see Donald "Israel First!" Trump as an answer to any of them. I believe that Jewish grip on Western and world politics, in order to create a story with a pre-determined ending, is too strong; Democracy has become theater. If we look at which countries arent controlled by Jews, either overtly or in the shadows, we can see that all geo-political conflicts are to entertain the plebian masses. I agree so much with what you say, but see no solution in sight, outside of a world war, initiated by a handful of National Socialist elite thinkers and philosophers, able to turn controlled opposition into opposition - true alchemists.

>>388135

Trump and every other presidential candidate supports Israel, that's an issue that won't be solved anytime soon, although as long as Trump supports a two state solution for both Jews and Palestinians I'm fine with that. If Trump is able to reign in on governmental censorship I do believe this would solve some of the problems we have with Jewish influence on our politics, note the ADL is totally on board with government gatekeepers and the corporate media. Take away their ability to censor citizens and they'll lose that influence and grip they have. The geo-political conflicts are mostly due to MIC corruption and foreign intervention, if we stop the endless wars we cut off their theater and they won't be able to profit off murder around the world. A world war would not solve any of our problems, only exacerbate them. I would not want to see our nation getting into a direct war with Russia and/or China, we'd be fucked if that were to happen today. These nations are no longer weak like they used to be. As for National Socialists, I do not think they would be better off keeping with the current status quo establishment nor would anyone else. The solution would be to focus and try to fix our own problems here at home, and if anything, I think National Socialists might have some decent ideas to solve some of our own problems here at home. Problems we could never ever solve with a massive war with other nuclear superpowers. I don't think Trump is perfect by any means, he might be a complete idiot, but he is the best option we have today.

>>388136

the Better of Two Evils argument isn't an argument at all, lad. Still, evil prevails. You know this.

i really enjoyed our conversation m8, but to be honest, this sit is lagging me up like hell. not sure what the issue is. imma go fuck around on mocospace, in the Christian room, if u wanna hangout later. thanks again for the thoughtful and insightful conversation <3

>>388137

That's the only option we have, Biden or Trump (or Robert F Kennedy Jr. running as an independent if he even stands a chance). I like Robert, he's probably more competent than Trump would be but face it, he doesn't stand a chance to win. If Trump will get America out of wars and remove some of the awful political demagogues running certain governmental agencies today that is enough to be able to start fixing this country. Average Americans can fix this country: we just need to be ALLOWED TO!, we just need to have the corrupt criminal government stop sabotaging everything and stop getting us into endless debt and endless wars. Only then can America can recover from all the damage they have inflicted.

BTW: if we are brought into a major war with Russia and/or China it's game over for all of us, there is no way a debt insolvent nation which relies on it's world reserve currency status and has no real industry is going to defeat massive industrial power hub(s) that have nuclear weapon deterrents and the ability to manufacture more and more weaponry and artillery during the fight. Note that the "environmentalists" have gutted lead smelting operations in the US, that's why ammo prices are so high! We can't manufacture bullets, we rely on countries like China to do that for us! Ohhhh…..Smart move to get us into war with those we are fully dependent on, right!?

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