0573cf No.17361
Anyone experiment with any alternative fuels? You run a car on propane or natural gas? You make your own e85? Run your truck on wood gas?
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3b194a No.17363
I have a friend who works as a FedEx driver and previously as a UPS driver in Canada. He knows his shit, and he says the trucks that were converted to run on propane are absolute dogshit. The mechanics constantly complain about them and they're gutless and unresponsive. I know this practice is common in Europe, is this just a symtom of a bad conversion or something you guys also put up with in order to afford work trucks?
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aba215 No.17364
>>17363
>>17361
My dad has a Seat Toledo (early 90s model) running on natural gas. I am tempted to install it on my Mazda 323 too, but i have little boot space already.
It runs great on gasoline, and at a flick of a switch it runs on natural gas. It combusts slower, thus reducing stress on engine parts and is three times cheaper than gasoline at the moment. The only downside it it losing about half the power when running on gas. And the gas system is useless when trying to start at below -25 Celsius. Otherwise, that thing can run for 2 weeks on a single natural gas tank which costs about 50 Euros (price is about ~0.5-0.7, capacity: 70L).
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bd8ca9 No.17365
>>17363
> the trucks that were converted to run on propane are absolute dogshit.
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aba215 No.17366
>>17365
I wonder how does one convert a truck (i automaticaly assume that truck=diesel) to run on anything but diesel.
I know the company i work for pours used motor oil in diesel to make about 1:2 mix which smokes slightly more than usual but is a great way to save fuel and that oil has to be used somewhere, right?
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6324a7 No.17367
>>17363
They are probably just running them lean. It's like when people switch to e85 and are surpsied by how bad the mileage is. Ethanol is very high octane, but it has a lower energy content that gasoline. It has a much lower AFR.
>>17366
I think the delivery trucks are gasoline. They don't need to be torque beasts like semis.
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4d3243 No.17368
My daily driver runs on nitromethane.
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525382 No.17370
I know that Mazda has been experimenting with small hydrogen-fueled rotaries as range extenders for hybrid cars and even made a hydrogen RX8 back in '06 (that halved horsepower and had a monthly lease price of over $3k). I'm thinking about swapping a small displacement VW or Mercedes diesel (and then running veggie oil or bio d) into my Toyota pickup if the 22re in it ever dies. Also heard of a guy who converted a Miata to electric, makes something like 200HP.
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01d725 No.17371
>>17367
>I think the delivery trucks are gasoline. They don't need to be torque beasts like semis.
But they can benefit greatly from low fuel consumption
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142dbb No.17374
>>17361
I'm working on a fuel source in my basement using selectively bred dog vomit slime mold. It's a hobby about 10 years in the making. I've got the mold selected for the ability to consume plastics (using a group of 15, 120 gallon fish tanks filled with shredded plastic and mold. So far the byproduct is liquid but the flashpoint is to high to be of use. At this point I'm selecting for mold with secretions that have a lower flashpoint. Twice a year I take whichever tank has the most flammable liquid waste, dispose of the contents of the other tanks and sterilize them, then split up the chosen mold into the tanks with food (shredded plastics)
I figure I'm probably another 10 years away from a usable strain that produces something that could be used as a fuel.
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6a80f3 No.17375
>>17374
>bacteria eating plastic
Soon we're gonna use plastic like it's biodegradable and fun is gonna ensue.
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647cdc No.17376
>>17375
It would be a better use for those shitty dollar store Chinese "diecasts" they try to give to children who don't know well enough that it's basically Hot Wheels or nothing.
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6324a7 No.17378
>>17374
Please tell me this is for real.
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b47f5c No.17494
why the fuck would you substitute one fossil fuel for another one? The whole point of using an alternate source is to either save money or be cleaner burning, which propane is neither. Sorry hank.
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9d02f4 No.17499
>>17494
You forgot independence. Yeah alcohol is very high octane, but the thing that draws me to it is the fact I can make it in my garage. Same thing with gasifiers. If you have trees you can drive.
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43aead No.17501
>>17494
Flammable substances aren't fossil fuels.
You can make natural gas with food waste, you can synthetize many alcohols without having to refine petroleum.
And that's exactly the point of biodiesel, it's a diesel fuel made in a lab, not refined.
The point of an alternative fuel is to be an alternative to what we have riht now, not the twisted definition the media wants you to believe.
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fdcdf8 No.17503
Biodiesel and electricity is the future, gasoline will become a minority fuel and the Jews will not let gas become mainstream because it's not profitable for anyone but the driver.
>>17367
Why not?
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43aead No.17509
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1c2127 No.17519
>>17503
>Biodesiel future
Maybe for cars, but that stuff is a garbage substitute for JP5
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c5a19c No.17566
>>17366
You could lower the global injection amounts and install something like a multi-point propane injection to make up for the lost power, but I don't think a diesel engine can run on pure propane.
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9d02f4 No.17568
>>17519
That's nothing a little fischer-tropsch can't take care of. I think the future is in hydrogen generation from biomass. We can then run vehicles either on pure hydrogen, hydrogen enhanced combustion of simpler fuels like pyrolysis oil, hydrogen fuel cells, or use the syngas to synthesize hydrocarbons as a drop in replacement for gasoline and diesel and JP5. One field of something like Miscanthus giganteum could be turned into all sorts of fuels.
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f3efeb No.17592
Anyone else thinks Hydrogen cells would be as effective and clean as electricity if they had the same amount of R&D put into it as Elon did into EV?
IMO the only reason hydrogen cells aren't currently an equal to ev is because people waved it off prematurely to chase the pipe dream that is electricity.
Also I just noticed the Mirai is a looker.
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82b0cd No.17607
>>17361
The only thing E85 is good for is for filling up rental cars tbh
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9d02f4 No.17629
>>17607
It's very high octane. Lots of people use it in their forced induction engines because it's cheaper and more available than race fuel. Also it's easy to make alcohol at home. Using pump gas to make it e85 is more of a legal thing so it's harder to accuse you of making moonshine. Ethanol has an AKI octane rating of 99.15
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c994ff No.17707
>>17368
Nitro?methane
I know how to make and collect methane, what's the nitro bit?
>>17374
>>17378
Is the future, mouldy?
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4d3243 No.17720
>>17707
Nitromethane is the stuff burned by pic related. I think he was shitposting.
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dd2db6 No.17852
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f35f38 No.17887
>>17852
So you drive a bus?
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5faeb3 No.17902
>>17887
the joke went all over your head I see
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f35f38 No.17919
>>17902
You didn't make one.
And also missed mine.
Congrats
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867206 No.17920
Natural gas could be interesting, especially when the car crashes and the tank BLEVEs.
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90e4e8 No.17925
>>17919
so you failed to get the joke which wasn't mine and I got yours. It's just way lower than his.
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c94e04 No.17929
>>17920
No car equiped with natural gas tank has ever exploded even in the most severe of crashes. Those things have safety valves and enough insulation to contain an angry god, ya know.
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550ede No.17965
>>17592
I think it has more to do with how the (((influential))) has been trying to incite a scare with it. Musk called them "mind-bogglingly stupid."
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