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don't be a faggot

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e10206 No.12449

What was your first car, /o/? And what do you think a good one would be?

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e10206 No.12453

>>12449

You put the title in the email field.

>first car?

Saab 900 turbo.

>good idea?

Probably not. The aftermarket is pretty tiny compared to most other cars, and OEM parts can be hard to find. Insurance is pretty cheap though considering how long I've been driving. Maintenance is expensive if you don't do it yourself.

>good first car?

Depends on what you are looking for. Whatever 90s Japanese shitbox you can find in decent condition will do for "a car." Sportier options include Civic si and Miata. Basically anything Japanese with a few relatively rare exceptions.

If you are like me and too much of a shitlord for your own good, and to the point where you can't bring yourself to buy a generic Japanese shitbox, go for whatever. I couldn't see myself driving a Corolla, or anything with more than three doors. I briefly considered a first generation Impreza Outback Sport, and a Mazda Protege5. An evo might have been cool, but again, I don't like more than three doors. I probably could have been okay with an Integra/RSX. I also briefly considered a Civic coupe.

I recently started thinking about other cars I would be okay with. Celica GT-Four and AE86 came to mind. I really like the huge trunk in my 900 though… Maybe when it dies I'll do an engine swap.

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e10206 No.12457

>>12449

My first car was an '98 Seat Ibiza. It was awesome.

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e10206 No.12460

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>>12453

Yeah, I fucked up. Mobile posting is a bitch sometimes.

Say, I really like how the Saab 900 turbo looks, that 80s-90s-ish kind of blocky style is really nice, really hot little car. Looks like they're generally under 2k too. You mentioned that they usually need a lot of maintenance, I know a little about cars, but could you elaborate? What would I be dealing with in maintenance? Is it gonna "go" all the time? (Like the breaks and shit) I also wonder how it handles and stuff, seeing as this would be the first car I've owned. The only thing I've driven before was an Aztec, second pic.

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e10206 No.12461

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12449

Embed related, but with 2 pistons less, 90hp running on diesel and a lot more rust.

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e10206 No.12466

File: 7209daa46ed5309⋯.jpg (47.52 KB,600x335,120:67,ng900.jpg)

>>12460

>really hot little car

I think it's the sexist thing I've ever seen.

The car I mentioned in my post is the NG900 (second generation. pic related, it's what I drive) because it's newer and shares some parts with the GM2900 platform. The first generation ("Classic" or C900) is 100% Saab. Parts may be even harder to find for those than for the NG, but afaik the community is larger since the C900 is more popular, so there are more resources out there to help you fix stuff.

>Looks like they're generally under 2k too.

Careful with those, they could have a lot of issues. However it could also be that the KBB/NADA market values are pretty low due to parts availability and Saab being out of business. If you go for one make sure to inspect it thoroughly and have a professional do it if you can.

>You mentioned that they usually need a lot of maintenance

I said maintenance is expensive if you don't do it yourself. If you get one that works to begin with then it will be extremely reliable - well cared for examples (C900 or NG900) will often go up to 300k miles without major engine or transmission service. They were built extremely well, just… oddly, so there are a lot of weird things that are different from what you would find on any other car. A lot of people don't like working on them, because it's harder and/or different from other cars.

>I also wonder how it handles and stuff

I don't know what I can tell you about that if all you've driven is an Aztec. My NG900 probably handles like a Miata in comparison. It's very smooth and not that tight. I'm sure the smoothness is due in no small part to the Pirelli tires. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure my dad's 1996 Mustang has slightly more direct steering. It also seems to understeer, which is to be expected from an old FWD car. The turning radius isn't great for it's size. The turbo is fun though. I should also mention that it's the only car I've driven extensively besides a mini van.

I don't think I would recommend a C900 unless you can find one in good shape and are willing and able to put a lot of time, money, and effort into learning how to keep it running. You would want to start collecting spare parts for down the line when things start to break. Like I said the community is larger so the aftermarket may be as well, which would mean better parts availability.

I should also note that the first generation 9-3 is essentially a second generation NG900, or a third generation 900 depending on how you look at it. The only differences are a slight face-lift and some minor mechanical improvements. Second generation 9-3 is very different though, it's based on the GM Epsilon platform rather than the GM2900.

Like I said mine is an NG900 and I don't have much knowledge of the C900, but there do seem to be more C900 forums and other resources out there. Look around for them and find out what the common issues are and other such information, and decide if it's something you want to/can get into. You should do the same for whatever car you decide to look for.

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e10206 No.12475

File: 13a0d5117223459⋯.jpg (47.69 KB,500x375,4:3,catcharide.jpg)

>>12460

yeeee Aztec. Keep it, that's a collectible.

>>12449

I had a Renault Clio, 2nd gen, 2nd styling with the 1.2 petrol engine. Unbreakable mechanics, not-so unbreakable electronics. Hopefully there's not much electronics in it. It is a good first car

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e10206 No.12478

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>>12475

>keep it

Is it a decent car? I've got the silver one. it sure beats the hell out of a 1k shitcan, at least…

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e10206 No.12479

>>12478

Nah, it is just a historical car. Last Pontiac and worst at the same time. This car WILL have a fanbase, trust me.

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e10206 No.12480

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>>12449

My first car was a Fiat Punto, 1900 cc, diesel powered, from 2001.

It was fine for a first car because torque, it was a 2 seater though, harder to fuck girls there, but it can be done.

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e10206 No.12483

>>12480

What is it with this board and hatchbacks? I can't being back in high school and pulling up in a hatchback looking to fuck some girls haha.

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e10206 No.12484

>>12483

maybe because these are European cars and us in Europe, can't drive before we're 18?

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e10206 No.12485

>>12484

You can only drive hatchbacks before you're 18 then? Wut

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e10206 No.12487

>>12485

Where did I mention hatchbacks?

We can't drive cars before we're 18. Hatchbacks happen to be cheaper and more popular in Europe, so that´s why hatchbacks as first rides.

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e10206 No.12489

>>12487

No. Hatchbaks simply happen to be the most popular dad cars to get passed sown to the child. Then the dad goes and finaly gets that sedan he wanted all along.

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e10206 No.12499

>>12489

There are roughly 10% sedans on the Euro market sold each year. If you really enjoy cars, you won't get the sedan but the convertible/coupe or the collectible in Europe. Sedans are seen as company cars or daddies cars round here.

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e10206 No.12500

>>12499

Umm, i would like some source for that claim. Though yeah, currectly sedan market is not like it was before the SUV craze began.

Very popular dad car to buy after giving the hatchback away to kid is Audi A6 or better. At least where i live. V6 engine, good looks, durable, and you can tell the wife it can still fit everyone inside.

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e10206 No.12501

>>12500

I'll find you a source when I get home

Here, to buy an A6 with the V6 means you're really wealthy. People at the bottom line never get over hatchbacks (or Dacia) or used rides. A 60k€ ride isn't for everyone if you take into account the insurance that goes with it.

Take it from me, my father had sedans since he worked as an architect, but he could never afford better than an Audi Q5.

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e10206 No.12505

>>12500

>>12501

http://www.jato.com/usa/suv-takes-over-as-the-best-selling-segment-in-europe-for-the-first-time/

here you go, mate. I wasn't far from the truth, here they say approximately 12% to sedans, including mid size, large size and luxury sedans.

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e10206 No.12506

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>>12500

>>12501

>>12505

Triple posting for the sake of it

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