No.91520
Sorry if this is a more /pol/ type of question, I personally don't care about the political affiliation of most music artists, but a lot of them are liberals or at least left-leaning from my experience.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Death Grips, David Bowie, most punk bands, etc. Hell, look at how many artists disavowed that one Adult Swim show when they found out the guys behind it were conservative.
Why is this? Is there something about being left-wing that makes people more passionate about music?
No.91521
Since we're shit posting, what order would you put these in from worst to absolute garbage?
Rap
Hip-Hop
Lo-fi
Dubstep
No.91522
>>91521
Shit I forgot synthwave.
No.91523
>>91521
Do you mean actual dubstep or wubstep?
Please answer my initial question, though. This has bothered me for years.
No.91524
>>91523
They are both terrible. You can add wubstep to the list.
No.91525
>>91524
In that case
>Lo-fi = synthwave > hip-hop > dubstep >>>>>> wubstep = rap
No.91526
>>91523
To answer your question, 50's liberals were so patriotic and conservative by todays standards, they would be considered right wing. The Soviet Union sent Bolshevik kikes over to the US in the 60's to infiltrate and orchestrate the downfall of this country. They wormed their way into the performing arts and other areas where they have direct contact with our children. These filthy communist kikes and the lost children whom they've condemned are being cut down by drugs and STDs when they're not being shot by true patriots. It will take awhile after the culling before all forms of art reverse course and become palatable again.
No.91528
what are some good right wing bands/artists?
only one I can think of is Owl City
No.91531
>>91528
nearly all NSBM, most industrial/electro and loads of goregrind/pornogrind. sorry to harsh your mellow. oh and RAC.
No.91532
I've been conservative for years and have been musician 3/4ths of the time so..
No.91540
>>91531
Noisefiend, are you everywhere nowadays?
No.91547
>>91531
why did we call dibs on the shittiest genres one can find in modern music?
No.91548
>>91547
>modern music
There's your problem. Also, those are [as much as I enjoy grind and industrial music] products of Cultural Marxism, so I wouldn't be using them as examples of right wing music; the current representation would be modern heavy metal, classical music etc. or anything that espouses Christian beliefs.
>inb4 muh kike on a stick
Have fun LARPing innawoods praising niggers that sacrificed children, goy.
No.91549
>>91548
I'd be interested in hearing a well produced right wing (alt-)rock band.
No.91555
>>91520
Musicians are like scientists, children following what they like instead of doing their duty (or anything they consider their duty). A lot of other reasons: 99% of people are leftists and knowing who is the man behind the curtain and what he's doing likely makes you too depressed to make music other than black metal.
No.91558
>>91547
>shitty
subjective af
No.91559
>>91540
yeah, I'm also in your house rn
No.91560
>>91549
there's not many unless you count flippantly provocative bands like Big Black and The Meatmen (kinda both punk but you get the idea)
No.91561
>>91548
>industrial
>cultural marxism
>what is Genocide Organ and The Grey Wolves.
No.91562
>>91547
also modern music is shit, and most those were created by the illuminati just to piss (((You Specifically))) off. I would know, am illuminati
No.91564
>>91555
>makes you too depressed to make music
I unno, I'd be more pissed than anything
No.91574
>>91561
Here's something that alot of people, even self-proclaimed redpilled anons don't get: Jews are not known for their foresight; quite the opposite in fact. They're so focused on the here and now that they do not think of any long-term effects their actions have. There are many examples of this, but in the case of postmodern music or art attracting White Nationalists, it means fuck-all.
Besides that, the goal of cultural marxism is to criticize, deconstruct and destroy the pillars of a society, which again in this case an example would be that "anything can be music" meme that is so often spouted by music appreciation teachers; it basically erodes the original meaning of music so that even noises from outside can be considered music from an objective standpoint.
No.91577
>>91526
Yeah, Jews were sent by the Soviet Union. It's not like there would be literally any other reason to leave that shithole. Not one. Nope, they were sent specifically for that purpose.
>>91555
>doing their duty
>scientists and intellectuals aren't useful to society
This what the horseshoe theory looks like.
No.91585
OP is a faggot trying to start political faggotry. The general consensus on the political leaning of popular music is greatly influenced by the context of the time and the conditioms popular culture flourishes under. Pop culture of the 1800s can be seen as right-wing for example
Regardless, I'll leave you with a quote by Donald Winnicott;
''If creativity came from logic
An intelligent and all the logical intelligent people could do it– But they can't. It all boils down to getting in a playful and relaxed frame of mind''
No.91586
>>91528
The Dean Ween Group
No.91598
>>91577
I am a scientist and surrounded by scientists in my work and studies. They only do it because they like it, and not for any higher reason. In fact, they're as normalfag as your random dudebro.
>intellectual
!= intelligent
>Yeah, Jews were sent by the Soviet Union. It's not like there would be literally any other reason to leave that shithole. Not one. Nope, they were sent specifically for that purpose.
He may be retarded, but are you retarded too? Guess who was behind the russian revolution?
>tumblr tier pic
Oh, you're retarded for real.
No.91601
>>91520
>Why are so many good bands lefties?
Because music is artistic and under the illusion of Left vs Right politics the left is dominant in art, even if it is degenerate art; some people just make it further than others.
>>91548
>Cultural Marxism
>Christian beliefs
I hope you realise that the same people that were behind the attempted enslavement of people under Cultural Marxism are the same people that were behind the encouragement of salve mentality through Christianity;
Weakness = Goodness
Submission = Obedience
No ability to avenge = Forgiveness
>praises christianity
>calls people "goys"
Looks like we can all take a guess at who's behind this one, fellas.
>>91555
>children following what they like instead of doing their duty
You'll be most effective at doing your duty if you enjoy it, and it's not like everybody would choose to do easy, shit work if they found fulfillment in greater things. "Doing their duty" sounds like slavery to me, and why would you even want that?
>>91585
>OP is a faggot trying to start political faggotry
So long as political discussion on /mu/ is contained in a single thread, I don't think there should really be a problem. If political /mu/ threads start drowning out others, it'd probably be a good idea to start a containment thread.
No.91603
>>91601
>Looks like we can all take a guess at who's behind this one, fellas.
I think people who fall for the muh kike on a stick meme are goyim; IE gullible cattle
No.91604
>>91598
Jews aren't a homogeneous group. Most of them weren't communists. A scientist should be able to think in slightly less simplistic terms. I don't have a folder of reaction images and that was the best eye roll I could find on google.
No.91605
>go to leftist college for music degree
>band is now leftist
alternatively
>live in city flooded with leftists
>band is leftist
99.99% of the time, it's one of these two conclusions.
No.91606
>>91520
right-wing bands get non-platformed, leftist bands don't
No.91610
Because pop music relies on mass appeal and music is emotional which is what appeals to the masses, leftist emotions are simple and basic such as love, fear, sadness, "depression", nervousness, etc. while right-wing (not alt-right) emotions are stoic and sturdy with a much more complex array of emotions that doesn't fit it in with pop music. This is why right-wing music is either classical, neo-folk pseudo-nazi bullshit, or unintelligent guttertrash like nazi punk. This isn't fleshed out take it with a grain of salt, I'm too apathetic to articulate it better.
No.91623
>>91619
What did he mean by this.
No.91628
>>91604
>Most of them weren't communists
Boy, that's some great b8
No.91629
>>91628
Even if most Bolsheviks were Jews(which they weren't actually), that doesn't mean that most Jews were Bolsheviks. It also doesn't mean that most of the Jews leaving the USSR in the 1960s supported communism.
No.91638
>>91619
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
No.91642
>>91520
>is there something about being left wing that makes people more passionate about music?
No
>why are so many bands leftist then?
Because the music scene is for hipsters that are typically left wing, so to market to hipsters you use leftism. Dont forget, lefties actually believe they're anti establishment so most punk bands having a leftist edge to it makes perfect sense with that delusion influencing them. You also get de-platformed if you're right wing; here's an example: http://www.stillinrock.com/2017/05/interview-dream-machine-melton.html?m=1
>>91528
If you don't mind shameless self promotion, my friend and I are right wing and made this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGVm4uZtlRI [Embed]
https://mega.nz/#F!0WJ2mJxb!hkwHbACoa6tCAvE_NCJbLQ
No.91644
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>91642
>[Embed]
I'll spoonfed you because you're clearly from 4chan.
You can't do that embed thing here, you have to open the options menu and post the link in the embed field, like this.
No.91645
While people are sharing, my own doom / drone band is fairly conservative, the lyrics are just unintelligible.
http://aghori.bandcamp.com/
>>91642
Cheers for that, I'd never heard of Dream Machine before, they're fantastic.
No.91646
>>91645
>Wexford, Ireland
I'm surprised Ireland has any metal bands.
No.91648
>>91646
it's not like they have anything better to do over there
No.91651
I don't know if there is a correlation, but I think more creative types of people tend to lean towards more "romantic" ideologies like liberalism. Country music might be a large exception when it comes to a certain side but that's a genre I'm not particularly interested in. I find National Socialism to be "romantic" as well, though I'm not sure how "creative" NSBM and other like-minded bands are, due to my limited exposure. Both sides have their own talentless white and "woke" rapper, Mackelmore for the left and Tom MacDonald for the right.
Alt-right "creative" types, from my experience, tend to be Dadaist in their music, like Moon Man. "He" is most definitely a "voice" I do not endorse but I can't help but find the absurd juxtaposition of black-created hip-hop and his nonchalant text-to-speech voice hilarious at times.
No.91656
>>91644
GG's art is fucking everywhere lel
No.91663
Music is, ultimately, a very attention-seeking field. You're telling people that what you're doing is worth their time, and that you deserve to be paid for it.
Now, what political group do you associate most with seeking attention?
No.91692
>>91574
shit if it ain't broke don't fix it. use their tactics against them. worked for Boyd Rice.
No.91693
>>91646
I can name at least ten.
No.91696
Musicians and artists in general have a huge inferiority complex, which makes them big cases of Dunning-Kruger. So they are easy victims for the "Left is for intellectuals and smurt beings" facade.
No.91700
Because music is of satan and the challenge of being Christian or good is to anetsizize or detach from earthly pleasures. If you can't do it then you are unworthy of the glory of God and you will be casted into the cold darkness of His absence.
No.91701
Right hemisphere of the brain is responsible for useless abstraction and artistic expression. The left hemisphere is responsible for logic and other boring shit. How ironic that the terminology to describe political alignment is the same except inverted, leftists are stupid pussies that squander their lives on arts and pleasure and rightists are boring, grueling rationalists.
No.91710
>>91646
There's a lot that come and go. We're the only one in this part of the county, though, and the only one in the genre in the country at all.
No.91714
>>91645
Prana reminds me of the menu of Hotline Miami 2 for whatever reason.
That's not a bad thing.
>>91710
What are other good ones? I remember seeing one or two in Dublin a few years ago but they weren't great.
No.91716
Because music-schools and music-environments for youths in general is entirely marxists and thus they are brainwashed into becoming like that to fit in socially with the other musicians.
No.91737
>>91715
well… the right is right, but the left is fun. there's no good conservative entertainment because they're too busy making 90% of the countries revenue. leftists can actually play a guitar. does anybody really like ted nugent or kiss?
No.91738
>>91737
>left is fun
>left
>fun
I reckon playing whack-a-post with the ban hammer must be fun yes
No.91742
>>91714
Ten Ton Slug, Brigantia, Stone Carver, Coroza, Badb, Mael Mórdha, Eternal Helcaraxe, Weed Priest, and tons more, and more on top of those if you count NI.
Wolfbait were great when they were around a few years ago, I think they broke up. Altar of Plagues moved to Germany, and then broke up a few years after. Rites broke up also. The shelf life of bands here is short, but as a result there's always a lot of them.
No.91749
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Lectures: Exploring the Psychology of Creativity
National Gallery of Canada
Published on Apr 27, 2017
No.91758
No.91763
>>91737
> there's no good conservative entertainment
>He doesn't watch bloodsports and Water Filter Man
No.91791
>>91604
>Jews aren't a homogeneous group
You're kidding, right? It's part of their religion, besides how could you not be homogenous when your religion collects the idea that all Jews are supreme over all non-Jews?
>>91623
>>91638
I'm pretty sure Anon is trying to push some white privilege bullshit here.
>doesn't mean that most of the Jews leaving the USSR in the 1960s supported communism.
Jews support whatever keeps them protected or in power, why do you think they push Holohaux gassings instead of concentration camp luxuries like the creative arts? It works better for them; that's what Jews are like, they don't care about anything unless it directly benefits them in the present.
>>91651
>Moon Man
>text-to-speech lyrics
>racial divide and conquer tactics
>edgy as fuck
Wouldn't be surprised if Moon-man was CIA to be completely honest.
No.91814
>>91521
you forgot modern pop
No.91829
Because for whatever reason, many righties abhor the humanities, or the "liberal arts", despite the fact they invoke them so often with their long diatribes about national pride. Do they not know that poetry, prose, paintings and music are more valuable for a nation than timber, computers and coal? Epic poetry can save a nation from the brink of assimilation, just look at the Shahnameh, one of the world's greatest works of poetry and how it saved the Persians from becoming yet another type of Arab.
No.91892
Because leftist are too stupid to get into serious politics, so they spend their time getting into music.
t. leftist
No.91908
Leftist Jews control the studios and labels. It's audio Hollywood. There are moderate right artists, they just don't publicly promote their politics because they'll get de-platformed. Most indies are artsy-fartsy hipsters anyway, and thanks to Audio-Hollywood, most of their role models are leftists. It's not rocket science.
No.91912
>>91791
Yeah, i'm sure Harvey Weinstein is really religiously devout. Seriously, if media Jews don't even follow Judaism properly, why do you think they would believe in something as antiquated as Zionism? Orthodox ≠ Media Jews. Why is this so hard for poltards to wrap their heads around?
No.91914
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>>91520
>Why is this? Is there something about being left-wing that makes people more passionate about music?
Two big reasons. One are personality traits that lead to artistic creativity, tend to correlate with left political leanings. Peterson mentions it a lot, even in video in >>91749. Second reason is who is in charge, as others pointed out. It started when hippies were let into the business world, and then they promoted people they liked, and these people only promoted people they liked, and so on, eventually eliminating who were not like them, including conservatives. Zappa does a decent job explaining it.
>>91642
It is decent, Put it on SoundCloud if you have not already.
No.91955
>>91644
>you're clearly from cuckchan
good guess but no, I had come back from advertising it on 4/mu/ and just copy pasted the url and mega link because I'm a lazy cunt.
>>91656
we needed album art and "music to trip the fuck out to" was the backbone for the idea behind it.
>>91914
ill toss it on SC now, we're going to try to plan out tracks ahead of time for the next album we record. Problem is time constraints since I'm living very far away from my guitarist atm.
No.91956
>>91912
1) You don't need to be devout to just keep the supremacist part
2) Only the enlightened knows that degeneracy is something part of the jewish people as much as their face is. And of course, it spreads to their surroundings like wildfire, because the degenerate find it easier to destroy others than to improve himself
No.92412
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>>91577
>yeah, Jews were sent by the Soviet Union. It's not like there would be literally any other reason to leave that shithole. Not one. Nope, they were sent specifically for that purpose.
Educate yourself, faggot.
No.92413
Uh, have you heard of Fashwave? It's booming right now. Check out Xurius, CyberNazi, and Eternal Reich.
No.92417
>>92413
yeah dude, it's fucking BOOMING
No.92517
>>91577
>scientists and intellectuals aren't useful to society
>This what the horseshoe theory looks like.
horseshoe theory is a fallacy. it doesn't explain why the alt-right and alt-left turned to National Bolshevism as the ultimate endgame to destroy neoliberalism. horseshoe theory rarely factors in economics and is more three dimensional than that.
No.92518
>>91912
Sepharic Orthodox Jews are the only Jews I'd tolerate.
No.92521
This may have been said, but the answer is that both leftism and art requires being removed from reality. To be a leftist, you need to value irrelevant rhetorical tricks such as bringing up anecdotal exceptions of shifting definitions over addressing facts and problems as they are before you. But at the same time, in terms of art, the tendency to shift definitions or desperation to avoid being found wrong translates to creativity in terms of unusual applications of a motif or an instrument or desire to compose what has never been heard before.
No.92522
>>92521
Also this: >>91574
>[…] the goal of cultural marxism is to criticize, deconstruct and destroy the pillars of a society, which again in this case an example would be that "anything can be music" meme that is so often spouted by music appreciation teachers; it basically erodes the original meaning of music so that even noises from outside can be considered music from an objective standpoint
Which is an application of what I described. "No one gets to tell you what music is or isn't, everything can be music" is an application of the broader position that words have no intrinsic meaning, so to undo a society's healthy core of discussion and science, to which stability of words' definitions is fundamental. The reason jazz or rap are pushed as music is to connote in context of a universal human activity of music the fundamental "everything (music definitions, music quality, …)" is subjective" dogma, which naturally appeals to leftists. It is not an accident that John Cage is a celebrated "musician." His fucking with the definition of music served a political purpose/example.
No.92523
>>92521
In fact, in light of my second post and the post it was inspired by, I may have afforded a bit much confidence to most (declared) musicians; it is rather less likely that they would strive to be genuinely creative within historical, challenging defintions of music; rather, they choose the path of redefining music into all sonic production, so to maximize the margin of activity in which they can declare themselves musicians.
No.93778
Bumping this interesting thread.
No.93793
>>91737
The left used to be fun, because they were counterculture and rebellious, all that. But now the left is mainstream, and the right is counterculture and rebellious.
No.93794
Not many conservatives in the music industry, so not many conservative bands get picked up. It seems that conservatives typically aren't big fans of progressives but generally don't feel too strong about it (besides extreme groups like /pol/ of course), while progressives have stronger emotional responses to conservative views.
You hear a lot about conservative bands/actors/etc getting dropped and fucked over for expressing their opinions, but almost never do you hear about progressives getting fucked over like that. These days, anyway. Things will probably switch back eventually, and so on.
No.94673
>>91701
>not using both at the same time
AUTISM MASTER RACE.
No.94674
>>93793
>>93794
LEL, I'm third position. what now? horseshoe theory? lol gay….
No.94700
>>93794
>Things will probably switch back eventually, and so on.
You have more faith in the system than I do. Unless some big (and literal) revolution happens, this ain't gonna happen.
No.94701
>>91914
>One are personality traits that lead to artistic creativity, tend to correlate with left political leanings.
How did this meme get started anyway? There is nothing about left-wing politics that is any more open-minded or novel than right-wing politics. Both sides parrot dogma from decades ago. If anything, leftists have gotten more complacent and lazy in their thinking.
No.94714
No.94721
No.94722
It probably has to do with how left-wingers tend to use the part of the brain that deal with passions and emotions since much of their policies are built around emotions and touchy-feely rhetoric. The emphasis of use of the emotional side of the brain usually pushes people to pursue career in music and art while at the same time makes them more likely to embrace left-wing policies.
No.94723
Gee, I wonder why (((popular musicians))) who are pimped by the (((media))) and (((record companies))) could possibly be conformist cucks? It's like I'd have to use my puny ape brain for a whole 2 seconds to figure that out but I'll ask the internet instead.
No.94725
No.94726
>>92413
Literally just synthwave.
No.94805
>>91520
Generally speaking liberals are progressives and tend to be more experimental so they push new grounds every now and again. Conservatives are traditional and they preserve what liberals have left behind. It's the same with psychological profile on business, liberals push boundaries, they're the innovators but they are lazy as fuck. Conservatives are the hard working ones who can actually put the work done by liberals to whatever place it needs to thrive.
As with all things, a balance of both is the best.