/mu/ - Music

Turning a shit thread into a good thread.

David Bowie was a commercial phenomenon. Interesting ish music, he was more harmonically adventurous than a lot of his contemporaries, but nothing to write home about. He was a better performer than a musician. I don't like his music very much, but it seems like most faggots here do.

never cared for that typer of boomerbeats tbh. just like led zeppelin or queen or any of that other gay shit that came out between 1968 and 1986.

>boomerbeats

That's an interesting way to spell talent.

>Bowie's gay and inferior version

>>91109

Please leave /tv/ memes on /tv/.

>>91843

There are actually some good albums on there but I really don't see what the fuck any of this has to do with being trans.

People like John Maus openly associate with groups like Million Dollar Extreme, for example.

>>91845

I'll spell it out then :

- Andy Warhol had multiple transgender 'superstars' among his click. He himself crossdressed for art photography (and was a camp gay man). One of Lou Reed's songs, possibly multiple are about these transgender 'superstars'.

- Switched-On-Bach, A Clockwork Orange and Shining are composed by Wendy Carlos, a transgender woman.

- Lou Reed liked trans-feminine people and dated a transgender woman for 3 years, hopefully I remember correctly. Coney Island Baby is explicitly dedicated to her and she appears on the (back-)cover and the closing lines are about giving all of his fame up to get her back. He was institutionalized in his youth for being queer/homosexuality.

- As an extension, some of the Velvet Underground's songs from that era are about various transgender women.

- The Stooges were a huge influence on many of the queer (punk) artists featured. Iggy Pop has often been described for his sexual energy and rumored to have had an affair with (androgynous) Bowie. Among other things, he champions Ezra Furman (gender-nonconforming and bisexual).

- David Bowie : crossdressed (as you can see on the cover of The Man Who Sold the World) including on stage, was very androgynous, created Ziggy Stardust, came out as bisexual.

- T.Rex : glam rock pioneer along with Bowie. Marc Bolan crossdressed and is rumored to have slept with his manager I think at the time.

- Roxy Music : Brian Eno was extremely femme during that period and just all around very influential on glam, Bowie's sound, etc.

- Patti Smith : huge feminist icon, basically was the number 1 early reference point for feminist rock, riot girl and still remains important. Also androgynous. She famously dated an important photographer who turned out to be gay. Was good friends with Burroughs (also gay) and also in love with him.

- The Electric Chairs : lead is Jayne County, a transgender woman and as far as I know the first trans punk rocker. Collaborated with Jarman, influential gay film director who handled also trans-themes.

- B-52's are classic queer. 1 or 2 gay dudes, 1 lesbian girl. Cited by Bradford Cox as an influence. 'Private Idaho' is what I believe gave the title to the eponymous Van Sant film. 'I Want My Man Back' is something straight trans girls might like.

- Black Flag is the only thing that is borderline : lots of rumours about lead singer being gay (was abused as a child by a man), Sonic Youth's Halloween is basically Kim Gordon lusting after him, also an influence on Deerhunter afaik.

- Christian Death : gay crossdresser front.

- Psychic TV : Genesis P-Orridge is on the transgender spectrum.

- Culture Club : Boy George was androgynous, dated a lot of 'straight guys', talked about transitioning at some point, best friends with Marilyn.

- Sonic Youth : Kim Gordon is a huge feminist icon. See 'Kool Thing'. She was also androgynous. She was in the circle of Kurt Cobain, who crossdressed.

- The Smiths : basically their songs are as explicit as it gets about homosexuality, which is pretty rare for 1980. 'What Difference Does It Make?'

- Nirvana : Kurt Cobain was taunted for being gay in high-school and cross-dressed on stage (wore dresses) and also wore nail-polish if I'm not mistaken. Pink hair.

- The Breeders : Kim Deal was very butch and thought to be lesbian. Nirvana circle?

- Bikini Kill : the arguably most important riot girl group, cited by Kim Gordon.

- PJ Harvey : another female/feminist icon next to Smith and Kim Gordon.

- Ariel Pink : androgynous, gay, crossdresser.

- Deerhunter : 'agender', 'asexual'/gay frontman, crossdresses on stage.

- Frank Ocean : the first openly queer 'hip-hop' artist, which is kind of a big deal…

- Chastity Belt : 4th wave feminism.

- Them Are Us Too : transgender guitarist.

- Ezra Furman : bisexual, non-binary/cd?

- PWRBTTM : transgender, gay.

>>91845

John Maus : 'Rights For Gays', far-left(!).

>>91848

Room-mates with Ariel Pink, etc.

>>91848

>Rights For Gays

Maus writes music about random shit, have you ever even heard that song? One of the lyrics is literally "These homosexuals, you can take them, take them to the bank." You could just as easily call him a pedophile because of The Fear.

Maus is certainly left wing but he's certainly not far left, he's not a communist or an SJW. He defended MDE against all those bullshit articles, these are the same people who mock the holocaust and people who are racemixed.

But even at all that, he has one song about homosexuality. I don't see how he deserves a place on that list.

Why did you even post that? It's only barely relevant to the thread.

>>91850

I don't think you know the first thing about John Maus.

He was roommates with Ariel Pink in college and basically credits Ariel Pink for a lot of his early influence.

As for his political affiliation he has said so and that is verifiable.

He defended MDE because he's a stand-up guy (though defended is a bit much if you read what he says, it's more like he refuses to be intimidated).

David Bowie was a huge influence on queer music and culture and thus when asking is he "our guy", don't try to somehow bend that history.

>>91853

Ariel Pink is also a kike.

>>91848

nah he's far right, he loves israel

>>91843

>>91847

>>91853

Anon, you're either doing some master trolling or you're really in the wrong fucking place. You don't just go into at thread and start preaching about "muh faggotry".

>>91860

Hey, it's important information

Know your enemy as the palm of your hand

>>91859

It's a David Bowie thread, so, yeas it would be hard to not talk about it in a thread dedicated to someone who has gained fame by bending notions of gender, wearing dresses on stage and also at home, is rumored to have had sex with Iggy Pop, came out as bisexual, when arguably his most memorable persona is Ziggy Stardust and the list goes on.

You're the only one who looks dumb here :

>hey guyys, let's talk about David Bowie except like 70% of his identity, because I'm literally afraid of gays, lesbians, transgender people and anyone who does not think like me.

Well, sorry pal, but David Bowie is definitely not your guy! Nor is John Maus, not is Iggy Pop, nor is Kurt Cobain, nor is Henry Rollins, nor is Lou Reed, and, and.