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The King is dead! Long live the King!

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bdaf63 No.487

Hello anons, i wish to give you a incomplete and short introduction to a old system of European Culture, It was really a perfected model of Private Initiative working for the good of the society who was perfected and molded trough the courses of Millennia, and was destroyed due to the Usury and Greed of Bankers and Industrial Monopolists trough buying Politicians within the new Democratic Model that was engulfing Europe after the stupid "French" Revolution.

Guilds were providers of Social Credit, which means that the Worker didn't have to be indebted to a Bank if he wanted to open a business. Guilds also were Regional Oriented, favoring local business.

>Bank; Provider of Social Credit at the cost of Labour.

>Syndicate; It fought for their representing Trade, regulated Salaries and Rights.

>Economic Cooperative; It bought Raw Materials cheaply at huge quantities and favorably from locals, then, they resold it to local Artisans at an affordable price - their gains were used, along with their monthly "Subscription fee", for Guild and Personal Maintenance, and also for the next point.

>Schools/Universities; They provided "free" education in their trade to anyone who wanted - they also thought how to read/write and mathematics. Many Guilds became later focused solely on this matter, and "evolved" into the Universities we have today. After graduating, the person would have to work for Free for the Guild for a couple of years, and after that, they were free to do whatever they wanted (if the person paid for their education, this work period would be optional and remunerated).

>Research & Development facilities; Technical Guilds had their own team of Crafters specialized in experimentation and they were also the teachers, they passed their knowledge not only to their students but to their successors also, resulting in more than a 1000 years of constant development of technics in those institutions - That's why "Swiss Watches" are the best, or there are some places in Europe where some kind of trade excels: Generations and Generations of constant improvement. The person graduated from this place would have within himself the knowledge of a 100 generations of Crafters who passed their technics down and perfected them.

>Job Hunting Center; While you're a Smith in Bavaria, you decided to move to Hamburg and needed a job - Go to the guild and you'll receive a list of places where you can open your business, help woth funds and all the names of every Smith in the city, the price of things, etc. If you're a Merchant going from Milan to London, the first place where you're going to stop were are the Guild, where you would be introduced to Business Partners, a Map of the city with the corresponding economic districts and their specializations, the prices of things and maybe even a Guide, depending of your stance.

>Currency Exchange; Self explanatory.

And the best: although it's impossible to say that there was no corruption, in fact, there was very little, because this Human Centers were subjected to the Market law, and if they were mismanaged, they would went bankrupt.

It was really a perfected model of Private Initiative working for the good of the society who was perfected and molded trough the courses of Millennia, and was destroyed due to the Usury and Greed of Bankers and Industrial Monopolists trough buying Politicians within the new Democratic Model that was engulfing Europe after the stupid "French" Revolution.

You're free to search a more in-depth explanation now/later if you wish, do you have any opinions?

bdaf63 No.505

>>487

Source for the OP pic pls?


bdaf63 No.506

>>505

Thanks /monarchy/.


bdaf63 No.507

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>>506

Well sorry pal. Your thread is just not that inviting to debate but has an anime pic as OP. What did you expect?

> It was really a perfected model

>*long biased explanation without paragraphs*

>no real question (opinions? that's how generals start on low quality boards m8)

>putting emphasis on how <perfect> it was to conclude

>no discussion

Do you realise this now? Anyway on topic: A guild is a semi private institution that in exchange for state protection has to take a societal responsibility but privatises profit. Failing is essentially impossible since a guild is protected by a city's legislation that is usually also heavily influenced by the guild, preventing bankrupty or competition. A guild is essentially a state prescribed monopoly excluding any free market. That's the point. The point you bring up here:

>lthough it's impossible to say that there was no corruption, in fact, there was very little, because this Human Centers were subjected to the Market law, and if they were mismanaged, they would went bankrupt.

Is complete bs. There is a mismanaged mason's guild full of corruption, nepotism and low productivity in Frankfurt? Congratulations, it won't go bankrupt, it will stay there as long as Frankfurt's City Council, who is made up by benefactors of the guild or its leaders in the first place, wills it to be! You see the problem and want to found a concurring guild? Too bad, no mason who is not certified by the guild is allowed in Frankfurt, no masonry craft may enter the city without Council's permission, you are out of luck m80.

A guild can work, as it has for centuries, of course under certain circumstances. It has to be on a very local level. The culture must be marvelous, preferably heavily religious, otherwise corruption will wreck it period. The population must accept it and see the guild as a profit to society. The guild leaders and its constitution must be very conservative and suspicious of change and ambition. Society itself must be, otherwise you are doomed. Everything that is not a caste or semi caste system - nope. Is this possible today? Yes, if you go full Tokugawa.

I participated in your thread. Now tell me about the anime *serious face*


bdaf63 No.508

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>>507

You tried, quite heavily, but I am not quite happy however, you see I could have a billion critics, but the most important one is,

>*serious face*

What?


bdaf63 No.509

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>>508

b-baka, see if I care ( ≧Д≦)

>you see I could have a billion critics

link me to your blog with a billion followers then. Where have those critics been for a whole week now?


bdaf63 No.511

>b-baka, see if I care ( ≧Д≦)

RIP, source. You'll have to find it for yourself now.


bdaf63 No.517

Sorry OP, I kept ignoring this thread. What was basically going through my mind was, "Oh, guilds, you mean occupational licensing on fucking steroids?!" And I can't stop thinking that. I mean, the occupational licensing system today has gotten so ridiculous (e.g., becoming a master electrician in most states takes longer than it would to get your PhD in electrical engineering) and so rife with nepotism (e.g., all the New York trade union families circling their wagons to appoint their children into the trade union), that I can hardly see supporting the system that was its progenitor–the guild system. You might argue that, no, it's more like a labor union; but my experiences with labor unions have been even worse and more rife with experiences of nepotism.

Which is why I didn't want to respond. We finally get a new post and it's just shitting on it.


7347c1 No.626

>>487

I like your interesting thread anon.


1f742f No.638

Of course. Read Chesterton




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