No.126
Acel sentiment cind esti atit de rosupastilat ca normii te cred moldovenist dar in realitate creierasele lor nu vor putea intelege niciodata pozitia ta adevarata
Cum as putea sa trec peste acest sentiment?
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No.141
de sentiment pur și simplu nu treci, la noi este efectul de turmă îi așa de răspândit încât nu scapi, chiar și dacă scapi este prezent sentimentul că nu te încadrezi în colectiv și stai și te uiți la ei cum degradează în legea lor și le pofig în marea parte.
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No.143
Eu îs rosupastilat dati-mi de lucru va rog
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No.427
>>143
>>126
rosupastileaza-ma
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No.430
>>427
Toata viata ta o fost o minciuna pentru ca ai fost educat sa traiesti dupa interesele unei ideologii anume
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No.431
>>126
imi bag pula in tine si in dodon
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No.432
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No.435
>>430
asta-i mai mult negrupastilat
si carei anume ideologii?
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No.438
>>431
Rude tbh
>>435
Asta e bine, ramineai deluzionat mai departe luand pastile rosie daca nu luai mai intai pastila neagra
>si carei anume ideologii?
Nationalismul. Mai exact nationalismul romin.
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No.444
>>438
serios?
pastila rosie = adevarul
pastila neagra = cand intelegi ceva rau dupa ce ai vazut adevarul
oricum, cum bl sunt eu nationalist roman? in plus redpills are universal truths, saying "the average moldovan joe's perspective of the world is skewed because of romanian influence in the moldovan education system" is different than making a wild guess about some anon you're talking with online
i'm not romanian nationalist, i don't think we're romanians, they're all gypsy niggers anyway.
How are you not moldovenist though? Like, there are 3 sides: rustardation, romtardation and indepentardation, aren't there?
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No.446
>>444
pastila neagra = fara speranta
>they're all gypsy niggers anyway
Si moldovenii is vishaia rasa?
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No.447
>>446
i'm a blond white slav
>also
my compatriot gypsy niggers are still better than romanian gypsy niggers :^)
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No.448
>>444
Maybe i don't understand how this pill system works then, my apologies.
Tot ce stiu e ca pe teritoriul Moldovei la moment co-exista 3 nationalisme care concureaza pentru monopolul interpretarii trecutului; Rominesc, Rusesc si Gagauz. Nationalismul rusesc controleaza Transnistria si trage spre Rusia, nationalismul romin controleaza sistemul de invatamint moldovenesc de la AȘM pina la clasele primare si trage la Rominia/UE, si nationalismul gagauz trage la un Ethno-State Gagauz.
"Independentii" / "Centristii" is carieristi politici sau oligarhi care cista vor Moldova sa existe pentru a se imbogati prin coruptie, si ca fara o revolutie care sa omoare toate aceste 3 nationalisme, Moldova o sa dispara ca stat in curind fiind rupta in bucati unde si cum.
>How are you not moldovenist though? Like, there are 3 sides: rustardation, romtardation and indepentardation, aren't there?
I'm not a moldovenist. Ethnic nationalism is some ooga-booga tier tribal shit and it's no surprise this idea appeals to romanians and the balkan area so much.
Having said that, i still believe a non-national moldovan identity exists because that's how moldovans called themselves and our language for the past 400 years at least and that's what the historic records suggest. I will admit that i use moldovenist rhetoric though, because it's the only viable weapon against both romanian and russian nationalism which can't seem to fuck off and die already.
At the end of the day i realize "Ethnic" nationalism is pure man-made fabrication but one which bizzarly people are unironically ready to spill blood for. That's why i simply identify as a Christian first, and moldovan second.
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No.449
>>448
nihilism dumb because i don't understand it lol. or only a shitty novice interpretation
>Rominesc, Rusesc si Gagauz
lol n-am auzit de gagauji, cinstit am aflat de ei anul trecut lol))
>romanesc si rusesc e prost, dar nici nu vreau independenta
ap ce vreai atunci? sau nu te inteleg bine
inca:
>not thinking moldova (the republic of) is only a jew vessel and was created with that intention
>not knowing the oligarchy controls everything and there is no power of the people
>thinking ethnicity isn't a mere tool to unite the people and make them stronger, feel more patriotic
>not realizing moldova's identity crisis is jewish trickery
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No.452
>>449
That pic was the closest to what i feel with this whole subject tbh. "Ethnicity" is a 19th century meme meant to lump or divide a population based on arbitrary ideas of languages which in reality are volatile, while ethnicists consider them static and clear cut. And who are these people creating the definitions? Bunch of self-proclaimed literally who's that played way too much Crusader Kings II that's who.
>ap ce vreai atunci?
O revolutie care sa rastoarne si sa stearga toate contradictiile interne din statul moldovenesc modern si care sa creeze un stat nou, dar care nu e legat de memuri ca lingvistica sau nationalism, si care sa aiba granite naturale defensive.
Neironic m-as inscrie ca voluntar daca maine s-ar proclama "Republica Populara Tigheci" sau "Republica Israelita Calarasi" in Moldova. But please for the love of god, no more autistic historic ethnolinguistic meme aberrations. Enough people died for that already here for the past 200 years.
>not realizing moldova's identity crisis is jewish trickery
It's a false problem based on false premises. Only romanian nationalists ever see "identity crisises", but which can only be solved by uniting with Romania ofc :^)
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No.453
>>452
you're a fucking zionist aren't you
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No.455
>>453
>you're a fucking zionist aren't you
What the fuck
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No.456
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No.457
>>456
well regardless, your answer is useless now. if you deny then it's what a zionist would say
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No.458
>>456
>>457
That was an example to show that even a ridiculous name like that would make more political sense than any sort of nationalism currently present in Moldova, you autist.
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No.459
>>458
yo you straight up "well i don't want nationalism for us"
and when i mention jews you always evade
also,
>Republica Israelita Calarasi
>Israelita
but still why? why don't you want patriotism? it unites people. regardless of the fact that it's a "made-up concept" it still drives people forward
this is where you nihilists miss the point
yes, the following might be true
>nothing was ever meant to be created, we're just a coincidence, life in general is built on basic universal laws and is an "ad hoc" feature
but the conclusion you draw from this shouldn't be
>so it's literally useless we should stop pretending to be special
it should be
isn't it sick how the universe is turing complete and such a phenomena like stars, black holes, light, relativity and even life was able to exist?
so, if life began and is currently existing as a form that fights for its own existence, shouldn't we helping it instead, since we are life?
shouldn't we fight not because life was a useless mistake but because it was a wonderful mistake? fighting for the sake of fighting, moving for the sake of moving, isn't that the meaning of life? the circle of life is its meaning, there is no "point" of it, but its cyclic nature is what life is meant to be. a cycle of fighting. like the universe, continuing forever.
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No.460
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No.461
>>459
>>460
Global kikes currently run the geopolitical show and have been for the past several decades, nothing new under the sun. By and large if Israel stops existing there will be peace in the middle east. Still, why did the mere mention of israel make you go nuts? Hate shouldn't be what gathers people together anon, but love for something greater than themselves.
>but still why? why don't you want patriotism? it unites people.
Moldova's way too multicultural for patriotism to make sense. Who should i feel solidarity towards and why? Gagauz and Transnistrians don't give a shit about Moldova otherwise they wouldn't exist. Only ones who want Moldova alive is said oligarchs who have a vested interest for Moldova to exist, otherwise they wouldn't be nearly as rich or powerful. Ok, and maybe a hand full of moldovans that want security for their families. But that's about it.
Besides, under which idea will people rally towards? The Moldovan state, which appeared just as easy as it disappeared and reappered again due to mere geopolitical circumstances? Plus patriotism is not shared unilaterally. Moldovan patriotism suits the rulling elites because it means someone else is doing their work which is to keep society functional, meanwhile they steal and quite literally could not give two shits about patriotism themselves lol. And i'm not a useful idiot to anybody.
I do admire your sense of optimism and will for living, but i've grown past that feeling many years ago and realized only a state with a solid proof-of-concept can exist around these parts.
Until then, what will exist are these 3 nationalisms each following their interests and goals trying to win as many people to their cause as possible, fake and man-made as they may be.
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No.462
>>461
>Only ones who want Moldova alive is said oligarchs who have a vested interest for Moldova to exist, otherwise they wouldn't be nearly as rich or powerful. Ok, and maybe a hand full of moldovans that want security for their families. But that's about it.
dude there aren't people i know who want to unite with either russia or romania because they want to keep moldova
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No.463
>>462
Good for them, for me it's a rarity these days to see people with a geniune interest to develop their country out of love and care but maybe because i've lived abroad for so much time where people have given up already.
Anyways, i hate to be a party pooper, but there's way too many internal contradictions in the Moldovan state's conceptual existence as it is. The declaration of independence was literally written by a romanian nationalist in order to transform Moldova into a quasi-romanian state. Reposting here because admin's a fag. Moldova being a romanian state is written in the moldovan declaration of independence, let that sink in for a moment.
This effectively paints the moldovan national struggle from the 90's into a "romanian" national struggle, which is completely false and an abberation since the vast majority of people took to the streets for anti-communism, not romanian nationalism. But again, you can't turn back time. I can write entire pages worth of what these contradictions are and how they effect the very existence of the Moldovan state and society, but the gist of it is that Moldova is a statal frankenstein struggling to pull itself together.
The only solution is for another non-ethnic based state to take Moldova's place. Wipe the slate clean of contradictions and start anew. That's the only solution and it would be cool for such a movement to be grassroots.
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No.464
>>463
now that i think of it, what are moldovan values? i'm so committed to american politics and saying i'd be libertarian if i was american, but like, moldova wasn't built on liberty. moldova (the republic of) doesn't really have evident and strong values to me
fuck
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No.465
>>464
Congratulations, you've just taken the redpill. "What are right and wrong values for me and moldovan society" should be a good start from here on. Buckle up, a wild journey awaits you ahead. Just remember to keep an open mind and a healthy dose of skepticism.
Most importantly remember that whatever your conclusions are, geopolitical circumstances made by bigger countries always shape the world around you at the end of the day. If you plan to leave Moldova, grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
If you plan on staying, well, my advice is to at least purchase a gun from your local transnistrian while you're thinking things through because things are about to go wild in the next couple of years.
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No.466
>>465
>If you plan to leave Moldova, grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH
so that's cool but also i've written on an essay about patriotism literally today something like "Traitors of a country should burn in hell" and shiet
also, god how i hate jews and liberals, ruining such a great land like America, and even making everyone hate America because of globohomo
MAN GLOBOHOMO ISN'T AMERICAN, THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN'T WANT THIS, FIGHTING FOR AMERICA IS FIGHTING AGAINST LIBTARDATION AND GLOBOHOMO
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No.467
>>466
Do you think the US should be a role-model for other states to base themselves on? Too much liberty is the reason Moldova is in the state it is nowadays imo
>also, god how i hate jews and liberals
As my uni professor ironically used to say back in the day: "I haven't men a single self-respecting moldovan that isn't an anti-semite" kek
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No.468
>>467
nah i don't. it's just that liberty is such a good national value
>I haven't men a single self-respecting moldovan that isn't an anti-semite
based. who was your professor? was it a history teacher?
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No.469
>>468
> it's just that liberty is such a good national value
Positive liberty is a self-contradicting value tbh. Freedom can't be absolute because humans are not absolute beings.
>based. who was your professor? was it a history teacher?
No, political science.
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No.470
>>469
yeah but relative liberty is still good
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No.471
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No.472
>>466
A nation has all the Jews it deserves.
Cateodata chiar ii invidiez pe jidani, sa fiu sincer.
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No.473
>>472
no nation, no matter how objectively evil, deserves the jews
imagine saying certain people deserve horrible parasites that eat them from within
dezgustator
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No.474
>>473
>no nation, no matter how objectively evil, deserves the jews
Pai cum adica, nici raul nu merita pedeapsa? Oare cineva care poate sa lupte dar nu vrea, isi merita libertatea? Desigur ca omeneste vorbind nu poti spune ca cineva merita raul, dar asa a facut Dumnezeu lumea asta incat totul merge spre moarte. Te astepti ca lumea sa fie un fel de rai pe pamant? Sa ti fie bine fara sa lupti in numele binelui? Anon, jidanii, paraziti cum or fi, nu au decat un rol secundar in moartea omenirii.
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No.475
>>474
emm da scuze am realizat suna prost
stii ai dreptate, e ca un fel de incercare.
>moartea omenirii
don't care won't live enough to see it
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