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8cfeee No.22720
Short answer is obviously because they split, but there's a reason why Sam's one-man MDE "successor" will never produce anything of the same caliber as pre-WP MDE.
When you look at bits from KSTV, vertical vids, college cunts, etc… they're targeting people in their mid to late 20s. It's a brand of humour especially tailored to drag out uncomfortable truths reflecting on the lives and experiences of the typical north american millennial and the ever unnavigable, wasted, entropic existence ahead of and behind him. Vid related is a prime example. Although what Sam's saying looks like "advice", it's not actually designed for consumption by some high schooler who hasn't yet had the chance to make the mistake. Rather it's an afterthought meant to get under the skin and kick someone who's already experienced it.
Whatever Sam produces now is for literal kids. The target audience is no longer disenfranchised college grad millennials but zoomer teenagers. The greatest strength of MDE's comedic style was delivering generation-specific redpills like a punch to the viewer's face, and this can only be done when the comedian is intimately familiar with his topic. The tone of Sam's content is now aimed at a generation of which he isn't a part, hence he'll always be out of his element.
Since MDE is fundamentally generational humour, it definitely has an expiration date. Perhaps Sam is already obsolete because most of the insight in his humour is now mainstream, thus it can't be a "redpill" anymore. It's no longer a "redpill" that college is a waste of money, humans are irresponsible pleasure-seeking drones, and that western society is a cesspit headed in a futureless direction. The foundation on which MDE was built is now destroyed. The pillar of their comedy has crumbled to dust. Thus with a heavy heart, I must pronounce MDE to be dead.
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beabcb No.22724
>>22720
The simpler answer is that a sociopath that burns his bridges will eventually run out of bridges to burn.
His target audience doesn't have much to do with it IMO, if he was actually talented he'd find his success regardless, even if it meant he had to completely reinvent himself.
Sam's an emperor that has no clothes and his his kingdom of dick suckers is rapidly dwindling. That's all there is to it.
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302baa No.22726
>>22720
>not for consumption by some high schooler who hasn't yet had the chance to make the mistake
Why not?
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302baa No.22727
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7cd95a No.22729
ye but mde never dies tho
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7cd95a No.22730
>>22724
>i'm a huge faggot please rape my face
keep coping with the numbers for the new shit on sam's HW channel and the positivity around twitter
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9a031d No.22731
>>22730
lol are you for real?
The twitter shit is embarrassing af. The only fans he has left are truly shit-tier redditors.
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9e42a3 No.22740
>
Whatever Sam produces now is for literal kids. The target audience is no longer disenfranchised college grad millennials but zoomer teenagers. The greatest strength of MDE's comedic style was delivering generation-specific redpills like a punch to the viewer's face, and this can only be done when the comedian is intimately familiar with his topic. The tone of Sam's content is now aimed at a generation of which he isn't a part, hence he'll always be out of his element.
not a bad analysis and I thought the same myself. Sam is an element of nostaliga (i'm his age to the year) now for that period of life.
honestly though it's not his fault. i saw his interview with an eggman stream from a year ago and he was talking about being old and not really getting the new websites and memes used by younger kids. i know the feeling, not that i'm some child groomer who wants to know where they hang out or anything, but being this clueless an oblivious about youth culture smacks me fucking hard in the face about my age. 33 isn't young but to feel like this much of an old fart is strangely discouraging, i would imagine especially so for someone like Sam who is deeply engaged in the culture
that said I think they are the ones who gravitated to him. See his NYC HWNDU stream? there were tons of zoomers going up to him like a god and he acted really polite, knowing they were just kids compared to him, almost half his age. he seemed humble about it and cool about it, though you know he was like "jeez who are these doofus little brats" behind the politeness. tl;dr I don't think he went to them or is trying to court them. for whatever reason they went to him and he is working with that, which i find to be on some level nice of him to do, since he would probably rather just make content he wants without considering those perspectives.
>Since MDE is fundamentally generational humour, it definitely has an expiration date. Perhaps Sam is already obsolete because most of the insight in his humour is now mainstream, thus it can't be a "redpill" anymore. It's no longer a "redpill" that college is a waste of money, humans are irresponsible pleasure-seeking drones, and that western society is a cesspit headed in a futureless direction. The foundation on which MDE was built is now destroyed.
Sam is a generational figure. pic related was shown on the WP premiere on [AS] here in the USA (since you write it 'humour'). Sam is on the level of Bill Hicks or Lenny Bruce. He's already a legend. He came on AS 10 years after Tim Heidecekr and he has the same meme presence on the chans and socials, even among zoomers, that T&E did in 2006-2010 and still do. And the cha po, leftypol, and various other leftist/POC groups who attack Sam – to this very hour, here, on this board, with relentless obsession – are our modern equivalent of the church ladies and Decency Censors who attacked Lenny Bruce in the 1960s
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9a031d No.22742
>>22740
>And the cha po, leftypol, and various other leftist/POC groups who attack Sam – to this very hour, here, on this board, with relentless obsession – are our modern equivalent of the church ladies and Decency Censors who attacked Lenny Bruce in the 1960s
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9e42a3 No.22743
>>22742
you only felt compelled to post this because you are not taking your medication or are not treating your mental illness. Seek help and good luck.
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6ac1e9 No.22744
a former mde-clinger memer that i talked to put it more simply. i said why do you think meme-team style comedy (aka post-ironic /pol/ish trollish videos) died out
they said comedy has fads, such as mde, and fads come and go so that comedy isnt funny any more
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9e42a3 No.22746
>>22744
if Lazzo just weathered the storm and put out 20 more episodes you would be seeing gif/webm/edited clips from the show on every social media sharing site on a daily basis. they would probably have propelled numerous small independent bands into considerate success and renown. would have
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35a6c5 No.22747
>>22746
Weather the Bernstein storm?
What about the storm where people learn about Sam fucking borderline illegally-underage groupies?
Or the #metoo storm that would have happened when he fucked that AS producer?
Or the huge anti-alt-right storm that wouldn't have ended with Bernstein if more episodes were funded? Sam has the subtlety of a brick to your face when it comes to his right wing dog whistling, things would have escalated into cancellation regardless.
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7cd95a No.22749
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9e42a3 No.22751
>>22747
did you take your meds this morning? I'm not trying to mock you or insult you. I genuinely hope you get help.
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9e42a3 No.22779
what goes on here? where does that list come from? genuinely curious
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72ad30 No.22783
IMO Sam can still hit his stride again. He has to find himself again, he is just now really letting reality set in. He's got some decent people working with him. I think Sam has the potential to turn over a new leaf.
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7cd95a No.22801
>>22779
i think they're "trending" boards
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9e42a3 No.22826
A few years ago I rewatched most of Liquid Television (thanks to myspleen.org), a show from my early youth, very influential. It was edgy shit your parents wouldn't let you watch if they knew so it felt cool as a kid. Sam mentioned it at least once so I know he saw it too.
What I noticed seeing it as an audlt (vs like a 6/7/8 year old) was how it was clearly the work of angsty, smart creatives lamenting their culture. They were acting ostensibly brainy with history references in some of the animations and songs. there was a free for all vibe, almost like early adult swim, with just insane and weird shit. recommend checking it out if it's on youtube. (I also rewatched The Head, which again was weird to see as an adult in the age group the main character is after loving it as a super young kid)
Sam and MDE are the millennial generation's closest comparison to that.
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8cfeee No.22897
>video unavailable This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated
wtf
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5875c2 No.22898
>>22897
did Sam get another one of his fans deplatformed
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cc81e7 No.22901
way to post my video and get my channel deleted dickhead
RIP
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954a73 No.22902
man you guys are fucking awful
fuck you sam
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848e8f No.22910
None of those red pill talking points were anything Sam came up with or actually adhered to in the first place.
I do agree though Sam trying to be some zoomer father figure is cringe af. Especially when you consider he also sodomizes high schoolers.
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50efdd No.22916
>>22720
Mostly agree but a couple things they've made (ex: Ideas Man) will stand the test of time because they convey the gestalt of the post-history timeline, not just a generational perspective on it
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9e42a3 No.22947
>>22901
i posted some serious paragraph posts ITT and want to say sorry cause this thread probably pulled ch a po faggots to report the youtube channel. shows how fucking pathetic they are and this game is. belated thanks to all who upload.
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9fd201 No.23029
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067f05 No.23043
This is fucking retarded. There's no gay philosophical reason why MDE was funny, it just is. It started off as extremely different and off the walls shit that seriously pushed the envelope, and it has nothing to do with faggot millennial bullshit. You guys are stupid and spent 200k on college, there's nothing special about your generation other than that.
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2c7d5b No.23045
>>22720
Why is it that after the WP cancellation, it's like Sam aged 30 years and got lobotomized. Seriously, no joke.
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072694 No.23053
>>23043
can mostly agree with this, if there's problems it's not so much that it needs to be framed as a generational thing, it's something else, i'm not sure what the rules are with all of this, but if you find yourself being more of a shillmedian than a comedian there's problems. Like legitimately, who watches a Gavin Mcinnes video and ever laughs. You don't want to come off as being in this mold exactly like you don't want to come off as a 'comedian' that did what it took to get on netflix.
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ba43b2 No.23109
>>23045
I honestly think he's just sort of crazy and always has been, but he's 30 now so it isn't as funny / acceptable.
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4655ab No.23110
>>23109
yeah, he's always been sort of crazy, but he just seems retarded now
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ba43b2 No.23111
>>23110
yup. It's sort of sad really. It's hard to figure out whats actually wrong but I suspect it is some combination of being immature, impulsive, and some other shit that I can't figure out.
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4655ab No.23112
>>23111
probably HGH, obesity among other shit.
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89d7d8 No.23140
>>23111
It's called being an asshole.
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ba43b2 No.23208
>>23140
Yeah but like to the extreme that sam is, there is something missing. People don't just become like that (unless they're sociopaths / psychopaths, which would make sense because Sam can't help but endlessly burn bridges personally - trademark of a psychopath)
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84fc13 No.23536
>>23208
Sociopath and psychopath are total buzzwords dude, just a pseudo-scientific way to call someone an asshole
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8ea2b2 No.23540
>>23536
No dude. It's a real thing. If you haven't encountered someone like this yet, an extreme narcissistic type who is also a compulsive liar you will. And after the completely fuck you over you will realize it's a lot more than that.
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61224b No.23544
>>23540
100% true.
>>23536
watch the clip, for real. i'm no big jbp fan but i saw this a while ago and it resonated with me. it IS talking about sam (how narcissists have their sidekicks and all). some people are good guys who are just flawed and happen to be "going through some sheeit." some guys are legitimately persecuted martyrs who become targets for their uncompromising political or religious views. but others are genuinely mentally ill narcissists who will look to suck whatever they can out of any somewhat naive person they meet.
the only good result that can come out of being duped by a narcissist/sociopath is that you'll be many times more wary when you begin to engage with new people, especially men, and can sort out the people you should keep at a distance and those to keep close.
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ea03ba No.23547
>>23544
>especially men
opinion discarded
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6ff9cb No.23548
>>23547
More men than women have the combination of traits that were being referred to, statistical fact
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9e42a3 No.23621
>>23544
>i'm no big jbp fan but i saw this a while ago and it resonated with me
you're a huge faggot and have lots of growing up to do, through and through
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9a031d No.23624
>>23621
What about what he said was inacurate? Have you ever met or known an extreme narcissist?
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61224b No.23626
>>23621
> i'm mr. mature and all grown up!
he has a clinical psychology phd and is actually a great lecturer in that area. i don't watch any of his more political stuff or other interviews whining about millennials but his academic lectures are fantastic.
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3032fc No.23643
>>23548
>statistcal pseudoscience
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958281 No.23644
>>23643
> i use statistics that match my personal views to own the libs but statistics i don’t like are pseudoscience
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3032fc No.23646
>>23644
sorry the fbi isn't a pseudoscience
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7a483c No.23647
>>23626
he's just a self help guru that uses big words
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46c45f No.23648
>>23647
Hes a lot more than that. Dude goes in depth on serious shit.
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112734 No.23649
>>23646
>>23647
Him: claiming research grants from Harvard
You: posting on 8chan from your mom’s basement
http://archive.is/IljY
And fbi stats aren’t the only stats out there, nice strawman though
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112734 No.23650
>>23649
Also the Notre Dame is burning to the ground what the FUCK
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