/lit/ - Literature

>>15410

a thread died for this

>>15417

Good riddance. Third of the threads are still bugged because nobody gave a shit about them.

>>15417

>t. tolkien

"Why couldn't Gandalf just work with the elves and dwarves to build bombs as powerful as hydrogen bombs and just wipe out Mordor?"

That is what you might as well be asking.

>>15532

Better question: why didn't Mordor build bombs? We know Saruman was interested in technological discovery and we know Mordor "created" orcs.

>>15540

oh wait, it appears they did actually

At the battle at Helm’s Deep. “There was a crash, and a flash of flame…” meaning they used a bomb.

>>15543

You also missed the part where after assasinating the ruler of Mordor the hobbits used high explosives to take down the Black Tower (magic rings can't melt sorcered rock).

>>15547

>>15543

So then OP's question becomes completely valid.

>>15532

>>15540

>>15547

When a story tries to act like characters have intelligence and directive, it's fair to ask why they don't do smarter things, so long as it doesn't break the rules of the universe.

Why didn't Sauron just make another ring after the One was destroyed?

I think the simplest answer to OP's question is that all Maiar are subject to the same creative principle regardless of inclination; Yavanna (like maybe Fëanor as well?) had simply incorporated too large, or perhaps too integral, a part of her spirit into the Trees remake them.

>>15561

(Thinking some more about it, the Trees arguably had a degree of sentience just like the Ring; consider how they gave the Sun and the Moon after witnessing others' grief.)

>>15661

>>15662

This power transference issue is complicated though.

Morgoth empowered his minions to the point of diminishing himself. (Tolkien says, interestingly, that at the end of the First age he was less powerful than Sauron at the end of the Third).

Sauron did likewise, but to no loss as long as the Ring existed. Furthermore, for some reason, he is only strenghthened by its possession, as in some feedback loop. Maybe Morgoth was being too indiscriminate in his dissemination of his evil?

Then, there are the Valar' works (the Trees, the stars, dwarves (who, at their very beginnings, were perhaps no better than Aulë's own kind of will-less orcs), which didn't seem to impact them at all, eg. by making them lose the power of (re)incarnation that Morgoth and Sauron had lost. Or maybe it did, ultimately? The Valar ultimately did give up direct wordly intervention; I suppose I can fancy that a reason.

I expect that either Tolkien, Christopher, or members of some learned board have already addressed all this perfectly.

>>15410

Read book of lost tales 1 nigger.