No.15097
Was Karl Marx an asshole?
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No.15100
Not as much as other people during his time. Define asshole, because usually assholes are just autists who can't properly communicate without anger. Or it is to me. If that's the case then no, anarchists were the largest assholes of his time.
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No.15101
depends; also, what are you basing your opinion on? his books, lifestyle, speeches, friends or what?
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No.15102
He was radicalized after his foray into Hegelian dialectic which is like a dude becoming a serial stabber after walking by the cutlery section of a supermarket. Those mental gymnastics he had to pull was pretty easy at the time but I think he was predisposed to the whole oppression rhetoric to begin with. Unsurprising considering this was before Pareto's time.
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No.15106
>>15097
No, you normalfags of today can't understand, looking at it in hindsight of USSR, but back then, during late 19th/early 20th centuries his ideas were very relevant and popular with the masses.
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No.15108
>>15106
It still is. The problem with Marxist praxis is it's incompatible with people. It's a theory designed for hivemind insects. No matter what era you bring it to, it's going to churn people into waste.
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No.15110
>>15108
It's not proof of Marx being bad, since dehumanizing has always been the norm with regards to topics he wrote about. It is proof that he copied ideas without seeing that they're contradictory.
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No.15132
>>15097
Yes.
>>15100
>Define asshole
He broke up the First International with his retarded authoritarian-socialist ideas.
Brilliant on many levels, but he would listen to Stirner or Bakunin and it screwed everything up.
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No.15133
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No.15138
>>15133
>>15132
Aren't you that lesbian trip fag who shitposts on /left(y)pol/?
>He broke up the First International with his retarded authoritarian-socialist ideas.
The First International would have eaten itself anyway.
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No.15159
>>15110
I meant it's still popular with the masses today. The west for example wouldn't have been embroiled in a messy and often times retarded politics its in today if it wasn't for Marx's retarded oppression ideas.
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No.15161
>>15159
Marx could have taken credit he didn't claim that others are and aren't people, but he, like so many others, did, so any politics are both fine and wrong by him.
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No.15190
No he just has bad mathematical skills and lack of logical thinking so he came up with very stupid idea which still causes problems.
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No.15192
>>15138
This aging antifa dyke has shat up /b/ for the past few months, and additionally tried her shit on /r9k/ before getting promptly banned.
There's been some stuff on /v/ that seems like it too, but no trips allowed there so no proof.
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No.15215
>>15097
Given his lifestyle? Yes.
Didn't he constantly ask friends from money?
Didn't he go to a the funeral for his best friends father to ask for more money?
Didn't both his daughters commit suicide?
Wasn't he a terrible father, husband and friend by any metric?
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No.15224
Is there anything good he brought to the table that wasn't just ripped off of Hegel?
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No.15247
>>15097
Yes. There are plenty of anecdotes about Marx being an asshole in an entertaining book about him by Francis Wheen, which was well-received (I mean the general public, not Marxists).
>>15102
>He was radicalized after his foray into Hegelian dialectic
No. Hegel wasn't specifically left-wing per se, that's why the term Linkshegelianer exists (links=left), denoting a faction of Hegelians, not Hegel thought as a whole. And those guys were not the most radical thing either, just atheists writing stuff. Marx started out as a journalist in Prussia, writing from a rather reformist perspective. The government crackdown on the newspaper and other reformists lead to his radicalizing. It was the slaughter of the Paris Commune and his direct experience of having the state on his ass that made him cynical and extremist, not Hegel.
>>15190
>bad mathematical skills and lack of logical thinking
I don't think Marx getting gud at math would have changed anything about his world view and polemics.
>>15224
The stuff he ripped from Ricardo and gave a polemical spin to.
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No.15248
>>15247
You overused "Polemics" too much even though it was the correct term. C-, see me after class.
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No.15249
>>15248
Would underusing it too much be better?
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