No.12574
>shits on philosophy, yet constantly engages in it at the same time
What did he mean by this?
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No.12575
>>12574
This is something that's bothering me about pop-scientists. They're suffering from a complete methodological blindness; they not only drank the entirety of positivist-kool aid, but they're also oblivious of it, unlike idiots like Comte that consciously made radical (and self-defeating) empiricism their gimmick.
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No.12576
He doesn't know what the word philosophy means. Modern scientists know even less about philosophy than modern philosophers know about science.
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No.12582
>>12576
>implying they're different
>implying philosophia doesn't encompass science
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No.12589
>>12582
>implying philosophia doesn't encompass science
maybe back then.
science is not a collection of knowledge, it's a method.
can you compare the ramblings of presocratic philosophers about the origins and the shape of the universe with whatever we did after galileo?
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No.12649
He's a great guy. He bests theists as easily as shooting fish in a barrel. He wants you to focus on falsifiable claims, and much of philosophy aside from Max Stirner is hogwash and imaginary wankery.
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No.12652
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No.12655
>>12649
Did he ever say anything about spiritualism?
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No.12697
>>12649
>Muh falsifiability
That works for empirical claims, not for all of philosophy. The statement that all knowledge is based on scientific observation invalidates logic, math, and itself. Empiricism: Not even once!
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No.12722
>>12697
>strawmanning this hard
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No.12723
>>12722
That's not a strawman, it's a reductio ad absurdum.
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No.12752
>>12722
Lol, no. It's not a strawman because scientism is exactly what it says on the tin–that the only verifiable knowledge is that which we can obtain through the scientific method. It completely undermines itself once you realize that falsifiability itself, or even the principles that scientism espouses, are unfalsifiable.
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No.12759
>>12752
But you just put everything you don't like in a blender.
Empiricism says that there are no a priori truths, but that those we consider them as such are determined by senses (and rationalism that there are a priori thuths.) Choosing one over another depends only on what you consider a priori and what empirical.
Scientism is a name for loosely connected attempts to explain behavior without taking knowledge of certain subjective information as a priori, mainly that of internal states and meaningfulness. Even though these approaches have had little success on a large scale, we predict others' behavior in some cases using generalisations, or guessing feelings based on external appearances alone.
Positivism is the one that says only scientific knowledge is meaningful, and it's weird because you need both (presumably meaningless) logical and sense information for science.
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No.12763
>>12759
First, it doesn't matter. Positivism and scientism are so heavily intertwined, there's no sense drawing a sharp line between them. They're also both subsets of empiricism. All three of the positions you described suffer from the same fault, too, namely that they are self-defeating.
Second, the guy I (and the other anon, there were two of us) replied to wasn't exactly precise himself. Whether he's an empiricist, a scienticist or a positivist was impossible to tell from his inane comment.You can't hit the bullseye when the shooting range gives you a geographical map of Bolivia instead of a proper target.
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No.13086
>>12649
>stirner
enjoy your wading in meaninglessness and suicidal depression
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No.13263
>>12574
Let's be honest, philosophy is dead. And it isn't the fault of New Autists, it's the consequence of modernity in general. What's the point of thinking when all you need is data and algorithms? Heidegger recognized this back in the sixties.
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No.13264
>>13263
>What's the point in thinking when all you need is data and algorithms
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No.13271
>>13263
>>13263
>philosophy is dead
no. it's not. sadly.
most people don't understand how some apparently very lofty and abstract ideas can drip down on them with huge effects.
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No.13496
>>13086
Enjoy your weak as fuck mind that needs to believe in falsehoods just to function.
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No.14055
he's a hack and knows nothing about the metaphysical. rationalism is pure cancer and a product of the enlightenment
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No.14061
>>12574
>What did he mean by this?
You are trying to plumb a puddle's depth (see below)
>>12575
>they not only drank the entirety of positivist-kool aid, but they're also oblivious of it
It's even more ridiculous than this. He's yet another misotheist willing to perform as much of verbal acrobatics as needed to heroically stick it to the imaginary world conspiracy.
Take a look at another issue:
1) Someone says something about teh gayz, he is wringing hands all "oh, never mind Global Warming, yes?!" (https://archive.is/t5Q3C)
2) Then the Pope blesses fightan Global Warming. Dawkins now have to double back - he doesn't go full sceptic, of course but becomes a lukewarmer. Even if this means he is pecked by his former comrades (https://archive.is/f4hzw)
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No.14072
>>13496
>my equally dismissable axioms spoonfed by stirner make my mind stronger than your babby axioms spoonfed by society
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No.14092
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No.14093
>>14092
>>14055
Speaking of rationalism being cancer, I'd reccommend reading Julius Evola's work, he focused more on spiritualism and trying to combat the anti-spiritual enlightenment era ideas.
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No.14094
>>14093
>accidentally spacing in post
fucking retarded 4 am drowys post
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No.14758
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No.14761
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No.14763
>>14072
Stirner was the final spook boss?
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No.14854
Well, 90% of anything is shit. Once you realize that all the so called greek philosophers were ignorant of modern science, that their work is in fact forged and plagiarized into modern gibberish by "translators" and "interpreters", yes, philosophy is shit. Even the later "enlightened" philosophers (most psychology is just jewish lies) like Sigmund Freud just rely on broad generalizations. Philisophy is sophistry, plain and simple. When you defeat their premise and argument, they will insist it was never their argument, or they will say it is merely their opinion so it cannot be objectively wrong, yet they want you to adopt their opinion. Bonus marxist points for if this philosopher is a fiscal conservative social liberal or has a goatee or holds a degree higher than a bachelors.
The only philosphers I respect are literalists like Ted Kaczynski although a lot of his manifesto is straight up retarded. Look at him now, rotting in jail. Should have just made some internet memes instead. Jean Baudrillard is also a retard but some of his opinions are valuable.
>>14761
Nice quote mining, retard. I know you're probably just some butthurt manlet from /christian/ , believe me, I find dawkins to be a mental retard as well and I find it odd that he surrounds himself with harems of young brown girls (ever notice that? serioiusly he hangs out with pakis and somalians all the fucking time, like wtf?) but cherrypicking is not the solution to combat his opinions.
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No.14855
>>14854
>Well, 90% of anything is shit.
In your case, I'd say it's more like 100%.
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No.14856
>>14855
MOMMYYYY
INTERNET MAN HURT MY FEELINGS
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No.14857
>>14854
What's it like being a brainlet?
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No.14860
>>14857
Whats it like being a soyim?
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No.15413
>>14860
>a soyim
>doesn't know -im denotes the plural
What's it like having physicists look for dark energy in that vacuum inside your skull?
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No.15418
>>15413
I am now argueing with a libtard who is such a defeatist that he speaks solely in sarcasm, ain' I?
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No.15748
he made a comment about continental philosophy and considering most scientism is based off analytic it would figure.
>since when is philosophy based on continents
because, Dawkins you daft fuck, morality isn't universal, no matter how much you try to force it. the west is falling because unlike the east we threw Plato out to pasture and took Aristotle to his final conclusion, whereas the east always had a Zen balance between the two. science was the homewrecker that destroyed the relationship between philosophy and religion/culture. fin.
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No.15751
>>14854
that's a nice a meme a faggot
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No.15767
>shits on the X-Files, yet doesn't know it's a work of fiction
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No.15785
>>15767
Dirty Dawkins only watches nonfictional programming.
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