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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

File: 47692176df9b5d7⋯.png (249.83 KB, 756x422, 378:211, opera_2018-08-07_16-51-44.png)

 No.89211

I'm making this thread in preparation for the midterms to raise awareness for voting; if we want to make the USA a truly free place as it was meant to be, we all need to vote for people who want to make that happen. /liberty/ isn't the largest board on the website, but there are still people here who can help to make a difference. I know a lot of us are going to vote but there still might be those who can be encouraged, hence why I'm making this thread. Another reason is so we can talk about good candidates and figure out the best choices for each state.

Living in New Hampshire, which is already a fairly free state, someone going by Aaron Day has popped up and he's interested in doing a lot to make the state better. I'm planning on voting for him; I don't want Chris Sununu in charge of my home any longer.

The New Hampshire primaries are on

>September 11th

and the general voting is on

>November 6th

It's a smaller state so I'm not sure if many people here live in NH but for those of you who do, those are the dates. Anyways, lets discuss the midterms and what we can do to raise votes to make a freer America!

 No.89213

>tfw I'm a MI fag

Far from the worst state for freedumbs, but as long as Detroit demands mo money fo dem programs it will never be close to the best. Doesn't look like there's much going for us this election cycle either.


 No.89219

File: 287313933e5cf3b⋯.jpg (95.91 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, frf.jpg)

Reminder if you're from Vermont, this is the year that you can write in spoonclank man as your governor under the name Tarl Warwick. He couldnt not officially be on the ballot because his patreon receives overseas donations.


 No.89220

>>89213

Fuck man, sorry to hear that. I'm not sure if Aaron Day will win up here but I'm still voting for him because the libertarian party has been making a decent comeback in recent years and even if he doesn't win my vote will still be counted as another number to work towards showing people that this party isn't too tiny or something.

>>89219

Aw fuck yeah, as someone from NH who's been to Vermont multiple times I can safely say it's damn gorgeous over here. It's a blue as fuck state from what I'm aware of and freedom isn't the best there; they have a really high property tax if I remember correctly. If Tarl Warwick actually made it in I could see Vermont rising up to be a state on par with New Hampshire. Hell I was born in Vermont and I really do wish it the best; it's no New Hampshire to me, but it still has a very special place in my heart.


 No.89222

The more libertarian-oriented Nick Freitas was defeated by former Trump Train campaigner Corey Stewart for the Republican ticket here in Virginia. Stewart will be challenging Senator Tim Kaine for his chair. Kaine is strongly favored to win owing to the nigh insurmountable population and turnout advantages of the northern part of the state, which is almost like an extension of Washington D.C. in culture and mood.

Freitas favored national dudelmao decriminalization, reform of civil forfeiture laws, and an end to foreign interventionism. His endorsement by the Koch Brothers and decision to attack Corey Stewart with accusations of racism, however, probably didn't ingratiate himself with the Trump demographic.

Matt Waters, the Libertarian Party candidate, is running a basic bitch boilerplate platform (except for being strictly anti-abortion) with the standard platitudes about small government and ending the fed that the average voter doesn't give two rats fucking a sock about with all of the idpol, social factionalism, and rumors of economic warfare swirling about. His supremely cucked open boarders shilling (complete with implications that strong boarders are racist) make his candidacy sort of a "why bother?" in the present climate.

And yes, this is the same Tim Kaine who ran as Hillary Clinton's VP mate in 2016. I'd vote for one of the dorks on local AM talk radio or the pajeet who runs the corner gas station if they stood a chance of defeating him.


 No.89234

Well they defeated the right-to-work bill in Missouri, so the power of the labor unions still lives.


 No.89630

>>89234

Shit that sucks. I heard about that happening a bit ago. Wasn't there something about that bill having a lot of support but still getting ignored or something, too?


 No.90572

I'm going to bump this thread because the primaries are going to be a thing tomorrow in many states. Remember to vote, everyone!


 No.90573

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>>89211

>Voting

>Ever


 No.90576

>>90573

That's precisely why I'm going to vote. Gotta rep for autism my man.


 No.90577

>>90573

>there exists an organization that can influence almost every aspect of your life

>I will refuse to try and control how that organization influences me because I prefer it not exist

You're no less on the spectrum than any of us, friendo.


 No.90578

>>90577

Nice double but he's obviously shitposting. Don't bite bait if it's that obvious.


 No.90579

>>90578

Man, what other choice do I have when the board's this slow? Gotta entertain myself somehow, look at how much activity that mutualist shitposter generated.


 No.90580

>>90579

Oh, that's true. Sometimes responding to shitposters generates discussion; it's actually what I used to do back when. Can't believe I forgot about it.


 No.90582

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>>90577

That organization doesn't give a shit about voting. Voting is for the lowest common denominator and has been shown for the last fifty years to just let you choose whether you want to be fucked in the ass slowly or quickly. We've passed ballot initiatives in my state multiple times only for city council to basically defund a project or otherwise veto it despite it being voted on/legislated.

Culture affects politics more than a vote does. If you want to change how the state does things, you need to cut into their bottom line and force them to reevaluate the way they do something, otherwise they'll continue to legislate you into a corner for their own political gain. Case and point:

>First-class mail was legislated into the shitter by forcefully preventing companies from having their own mail services, so now everyone uses email correspondence

>Ride-sharing forced legislators to reevaluate their taxi services

>Marijuana sales forced legislators to legalize it because they were throwing too many tax producers in jail for it

>Black market tobacco sales are forcing states to reevaluate how they handle cigarette taxes

>Cross-border alcohol sales force the government to allow private industry to open shop

>Gun manufacturers (among various other corporate entities) are leaving states and moving one state over, forcing said states to reevaluate their tax/legislative policies

The state doesn't care who fucks you up the ass since 99% of government employees aren't actually elected but instead hired, but they sure as fuck care when you're eating into their bottom line and forcing them to comply with YOU rather than the other way around. This doesn't even get into the statistics and how if there's more than about 200 people voting on an issue, your vote is statistically insignificant or how the state itself sometimes loses hundreds if not thousands of votes, and it's not that big of a deal, or how the electoral college technically makes it so even if everyone in your state votes for X, the electoral representative can still vote for Y, Z, or even R. It's not shitposting to rightfully state that unless it's a mail-in ballot, it's a waste of your time to vote as that time could be better utilized elsewhere. Actually, if your state actually allows you to vote on ballot initiatives and not just representatives, you're actually incentivized to be politically ignorant because you're wasting more of your time being "educated" on an issue because there's probably about 500 people voting who are voting based on party lines or some other pointless metric like an advertisement they saw on the radio for every 1 person voting on an educated basis. Your time would better be spent explaining to a chronically homeless person how and why he's getting fucked in the ass by politicians than it would be voting, since at least then there's the chance of word-of-mouth spreading your message where a representative might pick it up while trying to use some homeless veteran on the campaign trail to garner votes.


 No.90589

>>90582

But I can vote AND advocate for what I believe in. Seriously I'm just stopping by to vote on the way to town today; it's easy and it helps out. Voting for what I believe in doesn't stop me from standing up for what I believe in to teach others various things.


 No.90590

>>90582

Except like the other guy said, voting doesn't take all that much time or effort, and doesn't prevent you from influencing the culture. You post a Hoppe quote (not one I disagree with incidentally), but even he was a repeated advocate of voting as a means of self-defense.


 No.90592

>>90573

There is literally no reason not to vote, even if it does absolutely nothing.


 No.90595

>>90592

>There is literally no reason not to vote

What if you want to virtue-signal to your fellow C4SS members about how good a libertine you are for choosing not to participate in the oppressive patriarchal system?


 No.90596

Speaking about voting I went and did it like I said. Aaron Day is a good guy. Hope we get to see him as our governor but if I'm going to be completely honest, while I want Sununu gone for someone better, I won't cry if he wins again. He seems to kind of be a do-nothing governor and it's a lot better than having some corrupt fuck walk in here and mess up the state. The fact that New Hampshire is such a wonderful place to live shows that things are at least going pretty well, but I really think getting the government out of healthcare and getting them to stop banning so many medicines would be nice. The government is only manipulating the opioid crisis up here in New England to make it worse for profit and it's horrible, and Day wants to fix that, which is nice.


 No.90599

>>90589

>>90590

>Except like the other guy said, voting doesn't take all that much time or effort

Bull fucking shit. I voted twice in my life and both times it ate up about 2 and a half hours of my day, not to mention the 4-6 hours of reviewing what was actually being put on the ballot and who the candidates were/what they supported in reality instead of trusting their campaign website. My point still stands, but feel free to remain a pleb.


 No.90600

>>90599

>I voted twice in my life and both times it ate up about 2 and a half hours of my day

Just get an absentee ballot fam.

>4-6 hours of reviewing what was actually being put on the ballot and who the candidates were/what they supported

Good on you and all, but I don't have enough faith in finding a corn kernel in the sea of shit to consider heavy research worthwhile. Voting is nothing more than a self-defense measure, I don't see it as a way to enact policy but a way to delay the left in enacting their policy.


 No.90601

>>90599

What? It took me 20 minutes to do it today. It was easy peasy. Sure reviewing was a thing but it really wasn't that bad either. Sure we have a difference in opinion here but I really don't see a reason to not vote if I can help get good people in power. I'm going back on November 6th for the main thing.


 No.90602

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Also, funnily enough Aaron Day lost the libertarian party primary by one vote; if I could've just gotten two other New Hampshirites to vote for him he would've won. Jilletta Jarvis doesn't seem to be horrible though so I'd like to back her regardless. The libertarian party is small, but popular enough in New England to have its own ballot. I wanted to vote to rep for it; those numbers help show others that people care about these things and they don't always have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

For those of you who had your primaries on September 11th, how did they go? Did your favored libertarian candidate win?


 No.90605

>>90599

Implying you have anything better to do with your time.


 No.90606

>>90602

This is why you libertarians always need to be tight with like two other guys in their town. We should be more organized and connected.


 No.90644

>>90606

Yeah, I really should've. I'm in a tough spot being in a place with only 500 people. I should probably get out and adventure a bit; I'll meet people and make some memories.


 No.90666

>>90602

>"Voting matters!"

>Makes a whole big deal/thread about it

>Proceeds to vote for a third party that will never be elected

The absolute state of government-worshiping cucks.


 No.90812

>>90666

Good triple, but, well, yeah. Voting to make that third party matter a bit more is something I consider important; if I can get a few people together and potentially encourage someone to vote by making a few posts on an imageboard then I think it's well worth it.




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