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 No.89192

While some people make it their whole lives, I only see politics as a means to an end. A government (or lack thereof), only exists to protect the prosperity of its people so that they can focus on their dreams and goals without worrying about the minutiae of infrastructure and invading barbarians. I think too many people forget that and come to see political bickering as the end all be all of their existence, and have no plans to venture beyond the charted waters of government. But not me, and I hope not you either.

When the revolution comes and goes and the states are all deposed and we set up and tune up the proper order of things, what will you do then? Where do you want to go once the great task is complete? For me, I want to open myself a bakery in a small town, and have it be a gathering place for all the locals to come and socialize and make friends and share experiences. And I want to find myself a wife who's sweeter than everything else in the shop.

What will you do, anons? Where will you go when you're no longer needed on the battlefield?

 No.89194

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I enjoy learning gunsmithing, philosophy, music and general knowledge collection. Might open a machine shop and a bar/garden/restaurant, maybe do some teaching, though social skills are a problem. Have an archive with different fiction, data, music and stuff. Devote time to optimization, automation and autonomization of my life, for the sake of it.Spaceship with a closed ecosystem/home in a distant floating city/virtualized mind with backups on several asteroids and McPersonality Storage Facilities.

Good post, random but warm and cozy.


 No.89197

>>89194

Are you me?

I'm in a similar place OP, while I'll always love freedom the political movement is just a means to a better life. I still like economics though, I'd like to spend my life doing analysis or consulting for a while, and then "retire" either to getting a graduate degree in Econ and working with the Mises Institute, or taking up gunsmithing. I'd very much like to find a wife somewhere along the way as well.


 No.89199

>>89192

I'd move to a small town, start up/get a job at a brewery, and spend all the money I'm no longer paying as taxes on booze, guns, vidya, and confederate themed stuff.


 No.89202

I like threads like this because you always show the white of your teeth and admit that you want ancap because you deluded yourself that you would be rich (or at least better off) if not for the evil government. But let's be honest, it's only your fault that you are a poor lazy piece of shit and if the state is abolished nothing will change, you will keep doing what you are doing today but will lose your only hobby of shitposting about your pet political ideology.


 No.89205

>>89202

>turning a hobby into a profession

>starting a family

<"WAAAHH WHY AM I NOT A MILLIONAIRE"

Where do you get get your information?


 No.89206

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>>89202

>three posts about quiet retirements doing what you love

>HAHA YOU AYNCRAPS JUST WANNA GET RICH

Something tells me we aren't the ones obsessed with wealth.


 No.89207

>>89192

I've always wanted to have a small business of my own. I don't have the particular skills for it yet, but I'm still in my 20s and have the time to acquire some. I'm fine financially. Neither bad, nor too well off.

>>89202

I definitely will be much better off. You sound very bitter and nobody here's posted anything to support your claim. Calm down and don't project at us. Don't make it your life making angry shitposts at people on image boards.


 No.89209

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>>89192

I really don't want to think about shit like politics, but the government is an unavoidable nuisance so I don't really have a choice. If were living in Ancap though, I'd buy land, build a cozy mansion near a beautiful village, grow my own crops with the help of robots/automatons, get a sexy maid or waifu to serve me and run my shit while I'm not around. As for my profession, I would either be designing kino-tier video games like Kojima, or designing fully-functional monumental fantasy-tier architecture. Most of my extra cash will be spent on funding a robotics company and customizing military hardware. If I ever get wealthy enough, I want to be the first to build a fantasy-tier sky-pirate city in the skies of Venus.

>>89194

>Spaceship with a closed ecosystem/home in a distant floating city/virtualized mind with backups on several asteroids and McPersonality Storage Facilities.

Of course I wouldn't want to pass up on immortality if it's avaliable, but if it isn't, I'll grow clones to continue my existence after my original body has died.

>>89202

>retard finds out ancaps are actually normal, well-balanced people

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, where are my McWarlords???

But let's be honest, it's only your fault that you are a poor lazy piece of shit and if capitalism is abolished nothing will change, you will keep doing what you are doing today but will lose your only hobby of shitposting about your pet political ideology, as well as your ability to eat three square meals a day.


 No.89212

I'd like to move back to the small town I grew up in, which is currently under occupation by tax raising, gun grabbing, industry killing communist urbanites.


 No.89214

>>89192

I'd use my electrical engineering degree to find a good job somewhere in the midwest or the south. Ideally I'd have a humble house with some land, I don't really want a mansion. Just a family, some land, and a workshop of some kind to do some tinkering with various projects.

>>89202

>it's only your fault that you are a poor lazy piece of shit and if the state is abolished nothing will change

Except I wouldn't be pissing away money on taxes to support people who can't support themselves. If I was lazy, yeah, I'd be poor but luckily I'm not lazy.


 No.89224

File: 0aa3a04e460380d⋯.jpg (119.79 KB, 598x537, 598:537, research.jpg)

I am a public sector veterinarian with the USDA. The existence of Underwriter's Laboratories suggests to me that there would be privately financed means of funding public health assurance, and I doubt it would be a problem to go to work with them. In the event there is no equivalent of a health inspection, food safety, animal welfare, and other currently public agency services then I'd just as easily change hats like more vets do nowadays and find employment in a traditionally private industry. I doubt I'd have to worry about my past debts and interest owed in them in this scenario since I expect the public of education will have been declared unconstitutional and illegitimate in the first place.

I'm not especially ambitious in life. I want property sufficient to meet my needs for space and shelter and time for leisure and self-investment. I would probably be able to afford more pets and might be able to spend more time with them. I'd like to have the means to play video games for long sessions again. I would invest in a home gym and keep lifting heavier and heavier until I reach my youthful peak and maintain it as long as I can as an investment against decrepitude in old age. I'm asexual and aromantic, so I wouldn't be competing with any of the studly chads ITT for their wives organic or otherwise.

Not much changes about my wants or plans for myself. Perhaps in a truly stateless society I can start reaching out to and forming more long distance friendships with people without nationalistic bromides or preconceptions creating prejudices, though that is just one possible form of perverse tribalism and people will always think of creative new rationale for mistrust and dickery.


 No.89225

I want to fix the broken minds of several generations of Americans. People have been brought up for decades being fed lies and internalizing them because the collective tells them to do so. That's going to be a Herculean task to undo.


 No.89233

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>>89214

Even if any of us were poor, as long as the person's happy with what they do, they've achieved their goals.

You'd think lefties would care less about that. Marx never implied Communism will be some great age of abundance of everything. The only thing he promises is perfect market information, which is impossible either way. He didn't really care about how well off anyone would be. They could be eating one meal a day just to keep lean mass as long as everyone is devoted to "higher" goals and activities. Meaning, spergs writing their erotic Shrek x Zizec fanfics and NEETs masturbating all day long to doujins in our modern case.


 No.89235

>>89192

in ancap i will be an owner of a wildlife reserve


 No.89238

>>89235

Just make sure you separate the commies from the other animals.


 No.89240

>>89238

commies will not be wellcome


 No.89259

>what will you do then?

Well I'd like to go work for a Bison ranch and live a comfy life with lots of children, but realistically, I'd probably go make a lot of money in some oilfield for a few years, and then waste the majority of my life going to foreign places and living with the local populace/documenting their lifestyles.


 No.89260

>>89202

The state is directly responsible for the situation I'm in right now, and not in a "boo hoo I didn't get the job" or "fuck taxes" sort of sense, but in a legitimate federal regulations are directly impeding my way of life" sort of way.

Eat shit.


 No.89261

>>89233

They don't care about prosperity. Equality is what matters most. The left would be perfectly happy making the poor poorer if it meant that the rich weren't richer by as wide of a degree. Even when a rising tide lifts all boats, it's evil and has to be reversed if the gap between the rich and the poor ends up measurably greater.


 No.89266

>>89260

>federal regulations are directly impeding my way of life

He wouldn't know. You're not talking to an independent adult.


 No.89269

>>89266

I keep forgetting most posters here are teens.


 No.89271

>>89269

Well, mostly in their late teens to early 20's, but same shit anyway.


 No.89275

>>89269

[citation needed]


 No.89280

>>89275

Post your birth certificate.


 No.89284

>>89280

am i being detained?


 No.89285

>>89240

>>89238

Commies are an invasive species that must be physically removed.


 No.89287

>>89269

Just remember said teens are more coherent than the majority of their our generation, and the ones you don't interact with are even worse.


 No.89290

>>89271

They'll grow up soon enough. Libertarians become fascists when they mature enough to realize that force is a necessary thing.


 No.89293

>>89290

>Libertarians become fascists

It's the other way round, you tidepod swallower. Fascists become libertarians when they mature enough to realize you don't solve all your problems by putting even more psychopaths in government and giving them all the power they need to strangle you and your nation to death.

>force is a necessary thing

You'll understand our stance on "force" perfectly well when falling off a helicopter together with all your socialist friends.


 No.89299

>>89290

Was the other way around for me and the ones I know.


 No.89300

>>89290

Every example I've seen is the opposite: once the teenage edginess dies down people look for a worldview that's consistent and explanatory rather than contrarianism and LARPing.


 No.89388

>>89293

>>89299

>>89300

Meanwhile, outside of your silly anecdotes, pretty much the entire alt-right and neoreaction movements were made up of people who realized that libertarianism is silly and childish and only authority and hierarchy can right the ship of things.

>You'll understand our stance on "force" perfectly well when falling off a helicopter together with all your socialist friends.

You'll do nothing of the sort. You kids bitching about evil gubmint psychos like a pack of boomers only despise jackboots because you lack the character and manhood to lace them up yourselves.

>once the teenage edginess dies down

Meaning lolbergjudaism

> worldview that's consistent and explanatory rather than contrarianism and LARPing.

Meaning fascism in the first part and dudeweedlmaobergtarianism in the second place.

But nice try, folks.


 No.89394

>>89388

>the entire alt-right and neoreaction movements were made up of people who realized that libertarianism is silly and childish

The majority of the alt-right are crypto-fascists and various other ambiguous factions led mostly by populist libertarians. Modern fascists are so ineffective and intellectually bankrupt that they have to piggyback off a movement led by libertarians to get anywhere, otherwise no one will take le evil neo-Nazi skinheads seriously.

>and only authority and hierarchy can right the ship of things.

Of course, as long as it's ethical and voluntary, not the typical high time-preference white-nigger bullshit that you'd expect from fascism/communism where "hierarchy" is when the government is given a monopoly on everything, and "authority" is when said government robs, rapes, and murders whoever it wants without answering to anyone.

>Meaning fascism in the first part and dudeweedlmaobergtarianism in the second place.

>not a single serious book on fascist economics, only vague "third way" utopian bullshit which is up to anyone for interpretation

>not a single book explaining the ideal fascist political system, how it should be organized, how it would keep corruption in check, how it would keep the fuhrer from going insane like the turkroach imkampfy, who the next fuhrer would be, etc…

>not a single fascist book that any of you white niggers can agree on that isn't some feels-over-reals, appeal to emotions mumbo jumbo, which is an excellent source for motivational quotes but nothing more

Fascism is a formless populist meme ideology and nothing more.


 No.89399

>>89388

Nearly every single one of them leaned and leans Fascist. Stretching "Libertarian" wide enough to include anybody who's opposed to the current system or doesn't like his taxes, or hates cops, doesn't hold up at all.


 No.89400

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>>89388

>pretty much the entire alt-right and neoreaction movements

Pretty much the entire alt-right and neoreaction movements are made up of a mix of edgy LARPers who think they're still in high school at age 22 and Boomers in their 50s who are realizing their chains of power are crumbling and will be gone before they have a chance to kick the bucket and laugh at you. Most of you faggots have never worked a real job, or if you have, you got that job from daddy or your crazy uncle who pitied you for being unemployed at 24 and begged their boss to bring you on as a floor scrubber, then after costing the company thousands of dollars from your fuck-ups and earning yourself a pretty penny at the expense of your blood relations begging their boss not to fire you, you think you're hot shit. You mistake your tradesmen not being socialists/understanding the value of a hard days work as them being "ultra right-wing death squads" when really they're just neocons and fudds who have some common sense. You exonerate figures like "based stick man" when in reality they're just blue collar workers in their 30s who were pushed to the brink and only associate with you because they'd rather be associated with the people they think of as "bigoted racists" and "kids" rather than with the people who want to smash their head in with a brick. Meanwhile none of you can even find a GF without the help of the local mother cartel at your local church who mostly just feel bad seeing a lonely virgin like you in your mid-20s with nowhere to turn to (if you even go to church, which the ones of you who don't almost certainly have never had sex in your life without paying for it).

Don't get me wrong, I've seen some people get fucked up on libertarianism. I've seen some good women become whores and I've seen some good men become degenerates, but those people were always like that and if they hadn't fallen then, they would have fallen later in life if they hadn't discovered libertarianism. Most of them at least used their libertarian beliefs to find a way to live comfortably instead of acting like an aut-right nigger and blaming everyone else for their failures. I've found that the people attracted to your alt-right meme ideology tend to either become some form of commie scum or convert into neocon factions as they get older, while those who discover libertarianism start to distance themselves more and more from you niggers even when they remain "paleoconservative" or cut ties completely when they realize that solving everything with force tends to invoke the golden rule and gets you ass-raped later in life. There's a reason that the war-like civilizations all fell apart or degenerated into subhuman filth while the races and civilizations that only used violence sparingly in a sort of tit-for-tat tended to fare far better and extend their prominence a lot further abroad.


 No.89406

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 No.89480

>>89388

You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Nice dubs, though.


 No.89508

>>89400

kill yourself you lying cunt


 No.89520

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>>89192

Thanks for pointing out the fact that political discussions isn't just meanless rambling and that it serves an ideal of life, an ideal that best fits your life goal.

As for me, i'd like to leave the crowd of european big cities and live a simpler life off the grid in a small town in the US, either in the northwest or in the West, as a carpenter or a job involving physical work.. Your pic related depicts the kind of city i'd like to go to.

I am surprised that that many ancaps strive for these kind of simple lives.

Thanks for the wholesome thread OP


 No.89531

File: 69aca9c2de7df84⋯.png (1.05 MB, 980x1500, 49:75, d95cad313e3f6a2f3a657b4994….png)

Guys, how about we return this thread to it's previous, comfy state? i know it's hard not to make a mess when there are reasons to, but every thread is like this anyway, let this be nice.


 No.89532

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In comfy ancapistan I'll be taking a job at the local McDonalds because everything is owned by coorporations so I have no means to sustain myself without them.

Oh wait..


 No.89536

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>>89531

I agree. In Ancapistan, I will be able to buy a gf.


 No.89543

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>>89536

No ambition, no imagination, how typical of a normalnigger. Once there's no (((goverment))) protects the inferior, to systematically opress us, we robots will dominate those unorganized insects.


 No.89556

>>89543

>opress us

>us

Go shit in some other thread, /leftypol/


 No.89559

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>>89543

God leftists are pathetic.


 No.89681

>>89197

>ither to getting a graduate degree in Econ and working with the Mises Institute

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF LOLBERGS


 No.89713

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>>89400

Good double and holy shit you just ripped that guy a new one. Interesting post, Anon.




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