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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.89110

Why do Nationalists conveniently forget that Jews are demonstrably self-hating and self-defeating when they point out that there are Jews present in the foundation or development of modern economics and individualism? It seems like a really convenient fact that Nationalists leverage frequently (typically to tie in Jews self-designating themselves as white and then expressing anti-white sentiments to their Jewishness) so I'm not sure why they bother pretending otherwise.

That is, of course, working in the assumption that Jewishness informs their beliefs for or against a common Jewish purpose, which also assumes a lot. Modern genetic theory would instead imply that Jewish predisposition to either central planning or much more rarely radical individualism could be the product of high-IQ and pervasive personality traits that influence such beliefs somewhat deterministically, which is also another convenient fact that Nationalists leverage frequently.

I mean, I'm structuring this with a really blatant argument in mind, that people are subverting reasonable hatred for the status quo into an even more pro-government fervor "for the right reasons this time, promise, win wink", but maybe there are perfectly reasonable explanations for the hypocrisy and I just missed them, so if you have any, please help out.

natural disclaimer: I would take a /pol/shitposter nationalist government over a bunch of gommies trying to do the same thing any day of the week and this should be taken more as intra-faction nitpicking than actual 'dude btfo lmao' content.

 No.89131

>>89110

what is self-hating in being Jewish ancap?


 No.89137

>>89131

The running theory is certain circles that Jews propagate Communism on a community-wide level autonomously either due to genetic predisposition towards self-criticism (oy vey think of the minorities, whitey did everything wrong).

The thing is, Jews have also had a hand in the development of ancap (or individualistic theories of society and economics in general), which is by every estimate an antidote to communism. With both of thes things in mind, the ancap!Jews would be 'self-hating' of their race's/culture's predisposition to Communism and would be seeking to disarm or dissemble it for that reason in particular. In other words, to be self-hating of their "Jewishness" rather than of their "Whiteness", and by extant to disobey social pressure from peers who are predominantly fascist. From there comes my confusion over people trying to use "haha based jews amiright" as a bludgeon against actual liberty.


 No.89138

>>89137

All this speculation on whether or not Jews are inherently self-hating, or genetically pro-government, or whatever, is overcomplicating the matter. The answer seems pretty simple to me–Jews as a demographic tend to be a bit more intelligent and a bit more educated. This means they're more likely to become ideologues of either bent. There's no need to presuppose a racial hivemind of chosen to explain their behavior.


 No.89139

>>89138

This is an argument explicitly directed at those who

>presuppose a racial hivemind of chosen

and explains why that

>racial hivemind of chosen

does not invalidate liberty and make "fascism but better" the correct option. In other words, people who claim to have the exact same position in almost every important area but use "there are a few jews who believe what you believe" as an excuse to cuck out on the rest.


 No.89155

>>89137

statism is not inherent to jewishness


 No.89161

JEWS ARE BASED


 No.89162

>>89161

You do realize you will lose your monopolies when we privatize government, right Shlomo?


 No.89163

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>>89162

He thinks in Ancapistan there won't be privatized death camps.


 No.89167

>>89163

You're getting capitalism and communism mixed up again. Who exactly is going to pay for death camps?

Hint: 99% of people are not homicidal psychopaths. That's why actual death camps require coercive revenue collection schemes to exist.


 No.89184

>>89167

>Who exactly is going to pay for death camps?

Obviously whoever pays for everything else that there is a demand for in the market.

>Hint: 99% of people are not homicidal psychopaths.

And? Most psychopaths are a pretty successful people, I'm sure this 1% will be rich enough to pay for a death camp or two, though I don't doubt that most of the funding would come from moralfaggy christcucks.


 No.89191

The rationalization is that Jews are "playing both sides" an not invested with any particular passion for real either in anarcho-capitalism or communism because if either results in the destruction of ethnic sovereignty, then either allows them to seize control and reign as effendi over the mongrelized hordes. To borrow a page from the cultural cuck playbook and make a Star Wars reference, they think that the Jews are like Palpatine in the prequel movies engineering both sides of a conflict so that no matter who wins the astroturf war, they'll come out on top by picking off the survivors and taking over their institutions.

I find this somewhat untenable knowing how much Jews argue, snipe, segregate, and lambaste each other for the most trivial and petty seeming reasons. I'm pretty sure there's nepotism among rich and powerful Jews but I'd bet it has a lot more to do with being somebody's nephew or their best friend's wife's husband than just belonging to the tribe. The grandson of the New York pickle salesman might make it to Caynes, but he's still not going to direct in Hollywood without more intimate connections or child porn to share.


 No.89210

>>89191

All countries have their own mafia, but the Jewish mafia has their own countries.


 No.89228

>>89167

The "death camps" will be homeless cardboard cities where they go to die when no one will accept commies, obviously anon.


 No.89236

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 No.89251

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>>89236

>stating the truth makes you a /pol/nigger

Butthurt Jew detected.


 No.89279

>>89251

kys neetsoc


 No.89281

>>89279

kys jewsoc


 No.89283

>>89281

im an ancap


 No.89295

>>89283

Ok. Sorry fren


 No.89707

>>89281

kys stormfag




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