/liberty/ - Liberty

no killing pls

ancapism is actually just crowd-sourced nazism

>>88416

>ancap flag

>says should and would be legal

<would it be applicable under tha NAP to murder hard drug sellers

>wants to literally outlaw these activities

>destroys lives

As long as it is voluntarily, people are free to do anything with their lives, even taking heroine.

>threatens the livelihood of the community

"Community", "society" or any other bullshit only exists for people to push certain order using their numbers. It has been a survival mechanism, but now the only thing it causes is harm and degradation. There are only individuals and their will supported by their power.

You really should think about changing that flag. Or learn what victimless crimes are, at the very least.

With a stronger sense of community, people wouldn't turn to drugs. Drug use is an effect of failing communities, not a cause.

>>88416

This is the flag you were looking for.

All drugs should be strictly illegal

>>88416

No moreso than it would be "applicable" to murder gun shop owners for robberies or hardware store owners for construction accidents. People choose to take hard drugs themselves, and there are plenty of real-world incentives not to do so. Because of those incentives, the use of hard drugs is limited to the sort of thoughtless, high time-preference degenerates that would have taken said drugs even if they were illegal anyways.

it would probably be applicable as soon as the druggies inevitably infringe on you. lets be honest, the drug dealers probably would too

>>88432

How so? Drug dealers act like criminals because their job is made criminal activity. If they are left alone, what incentive do they have?

>>88416

no

>>88432

>legal cannabis shops don't exist where previously people were shot over weed

>>88463

>shot over weed

If you're willing to shoot someone for something as weak and cheap as weed, getting the high is definitely not your main problem.

>>88420

How are you enjoying your summer off from high school?

>>88471

>moralfag arguments

>>88416

if on the land owned by the community there is a with a "no drug dealer" rule, you can remove drug dealers from the land, if they resist you can apply self-defense and if they escalate to the point you have to kill them, you kill them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM8WDZIhs3M

Most side-effects of hard drugs are due to quality control issues that would be taken care of by the free market, and the use of psychedelics has been shown to be useful in treatment of drug/alcohol/cigarette addiction in many studies.

Also, if you want to get to the root of drug addiction you probably have to look at child abuse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlD6OdbuDK4, murdering those who become addicted is far from the ideal..

>>88416

selling / taking drugs doesn't break the NAP but the NAP is bullshit spread by degenerate worshippers of freedom who have no idea what is important. just keep in mind how illogical it is to prioritise a teenager's six-second whim over his life, the lives of parents, the wars and violence caused by the drug trade, and so on. truly they have lost sight of the good, all caused by the jews of course.

>>88487

by baning drugs you support people who are mentally weak becasue you want to protect them. (against their will- what is immoral)

what ought to be destroyed should be destroyed

>>88416

>but the sale of hard drugs like heroin and meth destroys lives and threatens the livelihood of the community

Your premise is flawed. Abuse of drugs and victimization of drug users destroys lives. Abuse of drugs is a personal choice, but said victimization occurs strictly as a result of the illegality of drug use.

>>88914

protecting lives is much worse than destroying them

>>88914

>>/pol/

>>88920

You are exactly what a /pol/ fag is, except the "it's the jews" part. Get out.

>>88936

Since the time they started shifting responsibility from individual people to conspiracies and objects.

>>88943

They support mass murder of people who are source of things they disagree with. Drug dealers are among them. /pol/ is unlikely to be for genocide of white drug addicts, justifying it as "they were tricked into this by jews" or something. For /pol/ white people are always victims that need protection, while being superior at the same time, though it's common for any collectivist movements.

>>88944

>/pol/ is unlikely to be for genocide of white drug addicts

Are you kidding? They're either going to pretend they weren't real whites in the first place, because there's no way white people could ever become drug addicts or alcoholics or whatever - or they're going to do what they did in WW2 and go with the classic "traitors die first" policy, ie: wasting time fighting whites and white degenerates instead of dealing with the source of their problem and taking care of the Jews themselves, and this being the reason why the holocaust never happened.

>>88949

Also an option. /pol/ is not consistent in their position. It does not change their tendency to blame everything on other groups and people, just like you do.

/pol/ just wants something to happen. They're blue-balled for a good conflagration that never ends up being the reset button they hope for.

>>88416

>Intentionally getting people addicted to hard drugs via lacing, mislabeling, not telling people any/all known side effects.

No-go, probably worth a good expulsion. Sadly, most of our doctors will probably join them on the way out.

>Selling hard drugs to willing customers who know the risks.

There is nothing wrong with this. The only person ruining their own life is the then-curious now-addict. Information is the only thing you need to guarantor. We already have a society where rich-ass people can get coked up 6 days out of 7 and get away with it scot-free, why not just formally acknowledge it so we can turn it into something legitimate?

>Think of the children.

Yeah, there probably will be provisions to ensure children don't get themselves addicted before they're old enough to understand why that would be stupid. Feeding anyone any addictive drugs without confidence that they know the risks isn't a tolerable behavior.

Ignoring geopolitics, and in the era of the Internet, the most important role of any state or centralized organization is information. If you establish a state body that can adequately vet information, disseminate it, and ensure universal access to it, much of the rest of their domestic role is superfluous. Cigarettes should not be subject to tax or prohibition or punitive business arrangements, but they should be subject to half of their box and the top ad slot of cigfans.org being dedicated to a warning about the harmful effects of inhaling tar and nicotine addiction in easy to read and understand text.